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Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
mrono said:
Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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I went from liking it, to hating it, now I'm back to liking it agian, but that's just me.
Simple solution, disable it, if you can't disable it, get a homescreen replacement from the market. As for the other apps like the keyboards and messenger apps and stuff there's alternatives for those as well.
Other than modifying or adding internal background stuff (editing the kernel or low level services) I don't see any reason why you really need root anymore. At least not for my needs anyway.
I am a big fan of AOSP but that seems like it's the only advantage in my eyes to having root nowadays, everything else can be done with crafty market apps.
Talk to me agian after the next upgrade to android is all the rage, you will see me with my foot in my mouth for sure =P
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I take it that you haven't played with the hero or anything like that?
go to a sprint store and try it out, finding ways to disable it is much easier than trying to add it in if you want it. Those that don't have it pre-installed want it, those that do have it want it gone.
The problem most people hated it was because it slowed down the hero, it runs at half the speed and half the ram approximately of the evo, it really shouldn't be a problem and it's just eye candy, and the benefits of having it outweigh the problem of it being on there by default. It's mainly just a grass is greener thing mostly.
The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
No idea what you hate about it. What do you all think is running in the background that you're all so concerned about? The widgets? It's not like stock Android doesn't have them either.
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I love Sense UI ...
I like it. It makes SENSE
I love how some quantify something they haven't experienced on the actual phone itself yet.
It's like saying I hate playing a 3D game that runs on a 2D graphics card with a slow experience and lag. WELL DUH!
I have the new sense ui on my nexus one and its 10x faster then wm version.
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The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
audscott said:
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
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I'm with you on this... I too have an HD2 and it runs Sence as smooth as silk.
My Brother has the Desire and it too with Sence slides along very nicely.
I'm not saying I hate sense UI because when i've used it it ran slow or because i couldn't figure it out. I don't like it because of how it's layed out, the configuration of it does not fit me. If I can change it or disable it, I will be a happy person.
Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
Dan330 said:
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
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But stock 1.5 isn't exactly smooth, even the 2.1 isn't quite buttery smooth, the custom roms are, but I don't think with that much power behind it that it will be a problem, and just think what will happen when xda gets their hands on it
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Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
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hope the whole camp jump's on this one i prefer aosp over senseless anyday of the week i install the widgets i want on my device don't need htc or sprint's bloated ****gets taking up valuable memory space
The reason sense slows things down is because they have been stuffing it on two year old devices with barely an acceptable amount of storage and ram. The new devices from the evo and incredible don't see these issues because the extra ten megs is nothing where on the regular hero makes a big difference as you start opening up more and more ****.
It will be a non issue on the evo. If you prefer asop all the more power to you I also like it but the largest complaints against sense are going to be obsolete soon enough now that devices actually have more horse power and memory.
i looooovvvee sense ui..had it on my g1, htc magic, hero, nexus one, and soon to be evo 4g
AOSP
Lets hope one of the first custom roms is for AOSP. I am running an AOSP build on my hero and I LOVE it!
I'm looking forward to it. I love it on my buddies hero. Just makes android that much better.
Hey guys,
don't get me wrong, I am not talking about the current stage of android on HD2.
What the guys here established so far is mindblowing, but still we are nowhere near the performance of a pure android phone like the HTC Desire.
Question is, is it possible, with a fully optimized kernel and the OS running in NAND to achieve the performance of a HTC Desire?
Having in mind, that we are basically talking about the very same hardware platform regarding cpu/gpu/ram:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250
ATI/AMD Z430 GPU
576 MB of RAM.
So what do you guys think?
boba
I went to a sprint store with my HD2 running Darkstone's v5 and it seems to be just as fast as, if not faster than the Evo, so there's no reason to presume it wouldn't be the same for the Desire.
I think we will have to wait until
- we can flash android directly as ROM and not only boot it and have it running on a sdcard
- the full memory available can be used. Currently the amount of ram used by android is around 250 Mbyte as far as I know. So nearly a half of ram is unused at the moment.
I am very sure that we will have great performance mostly like on desire when these points are realized.
If I use a live wallpaper on my HD2, there are some stutters when I open the "all apps"-tab. With a static wall it is in fact as smooth as the desire I used for comparison.
But I guess the overall performance is still on a way lower level than it should be out of a fully utilized NAND
Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil
when will an android ROM be available that runs from flash
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.
I'm running Shub's Cyanogen and it already runs faster than my brother's Desire for the majority of tasks.
So yes.
@john00williams
how complex and risky is downloading a rar, extract it onto you SDcard, then running 1 exe file and waiting?! if after 10 mins you dont see android home screen, then you remove your battery to restart the phone and wait for new android build while using your old WM!!
you dont delete anything or remove anything.
how is that complex?? how??
also, fact that android is running from SD card only slows the bootup, while android itself is not visibly slower, cause WM is shut down completely and android is loaded into memory. for optimal usage you should have level 6 SD card anyway
kerman19 said:
Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil
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THANKYOU, I dont know why so many people are finding that hard to understand
john00williams said:
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.
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Noone has any idea how long a full nand build will take, but I've read in a few places that a ETA is september...
All the devs are sharing their work as far as i can see.
there are 2 or 3 main builds now, the rest are older work...
Complex?
Get the right radio, rom, and put android on the root of your SD and run it.
Not complex at all, childs play infact.
the HD2 IS A GOOD phone. Just because you dont like winmo doesnt change that.
Maybe you should have researched a little before buying it...
If you wanted android, why the didn't you buy it?
to everyone else booting android on the hd2 is a bonus.
Please search before posting too, everything I just said has been said countless times
john00williams said:
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
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Risky? It runs off the memory card, there is zero to little risk. Other than the phone heating up a little the phone being damaged is highly unlikely. And with SetCPU running mine doesn't heat up any more than it did under Windows Mobile when running intensive apps or services.
john00williams said:
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
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You can tell you haven't tried out one of the recent Android builds. If I was asked to assign a percentage of usability to the Cyanogen build I'm using off my class 6 Samsung card it would be 95% and the few things which are still ropey aren't essential, or certainly not for me. I can live without full bluetooth support for example.
My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.
@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.
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@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.
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... and that makes sense definitly. It is much easier to fix issues by for example replacing a zimage file than flashing a new rom. Also we have the possibility to boot in wimo when problems occure. In my case I have four different android builds on my sdcard as I can not make a final decision which version to run yet. Some receive frequent updates, some don't.
So we should not see the lack of a nand rom too negative, its a great opportunity to fix most of the issues.
if only scrolling is smoother , all things willl be fine with me
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My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.
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Likewise, I've not run Windows Mobile for about the same amount of time, even when people were getting issues with the early builds, I wasn't.
Windows Mobile for me is gone, even in its current state, it's far more usable than my stock HD2 ever was!
I'm still on Froyo1.0, I've not tried any of the Sense Builds out.
Phil
Ask any one a month ago how they liked the desire build they would have said its buggy and needs to be smoothed out. I have fixed every thing on my desire build (except 3g=working on it) but i have the energy rom now and 2.12 radio and runing the desire v5.7 biuld and let me tell you it is way faster than last month so sept. sounds great for the rest of the bugs to be sorted out so can the desire build run fast on the hd2 just like the born android desire? ill have to say yes
p.s. i cant say ill get rid of winmo all together thats kinda the reason i bought the phone booting into android is just one extra bonus
At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
runemail said:
At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
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I have the htc incredible for my work phone. I am using a class 6 8gb sdcard, miri's rom, and darkstones hd2froyo. There is almost no difference between the phones. Less then 10% in speed. My incredible is stock however.
Will it be possible to put both android and winmo on nand in the future?
I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.
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I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.
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add for that thet we have proper multitouch with no multitouch issues like one (desire , nexusone and incredible )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
What is special about this build?
- What is special about this build is that the entire Android O/S filesystem is stored in RAM before it is booted.
What does this mean?
- Well, RAM is faster than NAND(ROM) and SD Card which in turn will make the build superfast too! Very fast. Very very fast!
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THIS Build as some who have it on their phones will testify is by far and and away the fastest build to date in Android development there is no faster build that im aware of, i can never see myself going back to "normal" Android builds again and credit must go to Darkstone this is a massive advancement in Android technology, my question is though, isn't there other chefs who can cook builds similar to this?
Merry Xmas to you all
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Dude there's another thread for this:
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872587]
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
dapoharoun said:
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
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Have you tried charging fully in WM before switching to Android. This should solve your problem.
I like Sense.. i like sense alot.. Sense means beauty and comfort for me .. I would sacrifise a bit of smoothness for a lot of Sense.. thanks..
Few days ago I copied darkstone's RAM build 1.5 to second SD card just to test it. And I was blown away with its speed. Second boot lasted about 10sec. Difference in speed in compare to any other build I tried is huge. Scrolling through the pages, opening and closing apps.....and the lockscreen is very nice
But I got huge data drops, internet in my case was working very badly. Also like Laynee1 I miss some stuff from sence.
But in any case I think that this is the way for me to go. Waiting for further releases. MDJ's gingerbread RAM looks promising. As soon as GPS is working in it I am switching.
Darkstone's build is working flawless for me so far. No data drops whatsoever. People complain Quadrant scores aren't 2000+, but thats not where the speed is at. It's basically just faster load times, and snappyness.
Also, since I hate Sense, there's no problem there
like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
I like sense too but you when you have builds as fast aas this it doesn't matter, no data drops here either very happy with the build indeed
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like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
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good description there mate
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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I dunno how good a Sense RAM build would be. Sense is huge and it will kinda fill HD2`s whole RAM memory. I need to have at least 150 MB free on my device for it to run smoothly, and somehow I think Sense would take more than that. Same goes for CM builds, way too loaded. The sport-car comparison previously mentioned is a good one, it`s like trying to add extra scrap parts to a car and expecting it to behave as smoothly as it used to before adding anything.
Besides, ADW Launcher has tons of skins (at least it has some interesting ones, worth checking out) and it`s wonderfully fast and stable.
Something which is completely off-topic but still bothers me: if they managed to run Android off the RAM memory, could they perhaps do the same with WP7? I`d really rofl to see the HD2 running WP7 smoother than the Mozart...
Super Ram Contacts...
Hi guys, ive been using Darkstones Super Ram, for a full two weeks now. Awesome!!! Question, with my gmail acount, i have all my contacts in groups. Why cant i see my contancts in groups? I need to message them for meetings and all that stuff, all in one shot. But i cant see this setting in my Phone. Can anyone help??
Thanks in advance.
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
appan said:
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
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Sense wasn't not included in the rom, it was based off of AdamG's Oxygen minimalistic rom. I don't think you would be able to put Sense over the SupperRAM.
I'm using LaunchPro Plus, and liking it, I miss the better sense widgets though...
Been using SupperRAM for only 2 days now, speed has been great.
I did notice some data drops more than usual. A reboot or toggling phone data on/off has helped this problem.
I'm extremly happy with this build have hardly experienced any data drops and it continues to whizz along at great speed, i actually don't miss sense that much to be honest, when a build is as fast as this for me personally that's the main thing, hoping to see other developers follow suit.
I tried the Super RAM build and I absolutely loved the speed. However, I would also like a Sense build with it (if possible) because then I would be able to sync my Outlook via HTC Sync. I need the sync with contacts and calendar between Outlook and HD2. While google has a program released to sync the calendar to gmail and from there to the phone, they are lacking in the contacts department...
anyone any ideas?
it's fast and has good battery life. those are the things I need the most from a build. i don't know why people torture themselves with the slowness of desire hd builds
duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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There is actually a ram version of CM build made. "HD2ONE v3.6 [CM6.1.1 Stable]" you will need to edit the startup.txt to get your RAM ver.
Wich is the best working clean froyo build, actually which is the clean froyo version, that you would suggest for daily use.
My personal favorite would have to be Darkstone1337 Super RAM Froyo v 1.5. Its amazingly fast, faster than most native android phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
Enjoy!
+1 Darkstone1337 Ram froyo 1.5. Hoping for another upgrade from darkstone
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Does everything work on that build?
Thanks,
+1 good BUILD ,thanks Darkstone
+1 on the Darkstone SuperRAM. It's absolutely perfect. I use the 7-screen T-Mobile G2 launcher on mine, which is exactly like the stock launcher but with two extra screens. It is the fastest and smoothest Nexus One build ever produced. It actually puts NAND to shame, in my opinion.
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Does everything work on that build?
Thanks,
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Oh yes! havent run into anything that doesnt work yet.
MartyLK said:
+1 on the Darkstone SuperRAM. It's absolutely perfect. I use the 7-screen T-Mobile G2 launcher on mine, which is exactly like the stock launcher but with two extra screens. It is the fastest and smoothest Nexus One build ever produced. It actually puts NAND to shame, in my opinion.
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According to Darkstone since the build runs off the RAM it is superior to all NAND builds and puts very little stress on the sd card and battery life.
Only AngryBirds doesn't work for me for some reason?
Angry Birds is a must and works fine on mine. I am using the STOCK T-Mo USA ROM with the same Radio as you.
One thing is that I cant wait until the SUPER RAM with SENSE is 100% because I like SENSE better.
Im also glad to hear that the RAM is better than NAND as I cant afford to void the warranty or brick my cell.
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Angry Birds is a must and works fine on mine. I am using the STOCK T-Mo USA ROM with the same Radio as you.
One thing is that I cant wait until the SUPER RAM with SENSE is 100% because I like SENSE better.
Im also glad to hear that the RAM is better than NAND as I cant afford to void the warranty or brick my cell.
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like many others here, im waiting for SUPER RAM + SENSE
as for the clean froyo build, SUPER RAM 1.5 by Darkstone is the Leader however there has been less updates for now, since NAND came out and is all craze and hyped up
using ADW Launcher or the one recommended above, TMOBILE G2 Launcher is probably the recommended ways to go
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Only AngryBirds doesn't work for me for some reason?
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in order to get angry birds to work just unmount your SD card before you download it in your settings. Then once its installed just mount the SD card and your set.
I tried the super ram build but it has 2 issues, which make it unusable for me:
1. Robot voice but i gues if i upgrade to the latest radio rom it would be fixed
2. Slow and sometimes not responsive screen when waking up the phone, this issue occurs everytime when i try some android build
3. The light sensor is slow too
any ideas ....
dddnnnggg said:
I tried the super ram build but it has 2 issues, which make it unusable for me:
1. Robot voice but i gues if i upgrade to the latest radio rom it would be fixed
2. Slow and sometimes not responsive screen when waking up the phone, this issue occurs everytime when i try some android build
3. The light sensor is slow too
any ideas ....
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1. Get latest radio
2. Get a new and decent SD card!
3. light sensor? You mean the LED? Every build has problems with it.
Darkstone SuperRam 1.5 Froyo is super flying fast.
Still like it so far.
MulTiPass said:
Angry Birds is a must and works fine on mine. I am using the STOCK T-Mo USA ROM with the same Radio as you.
One thing is that I cant wait until the SUPER RAM with SENSE is 100% because I like SENSE better.
Im also glad to hear that the RAM is better than NAND as I cant afford to void the warranty or brick my cell.
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jcsy said:
like many others here, im waiting for SUPER RAM + SENSE
as for the clean froyo build, SUPER RAM 1.5 by Darkstone is the Leader however there has been less updates for now, since NAND came out and is all craze and hyped up
using ADW Launcher or the one recommended above, TMOBILE G2 Launcher is probably the recommended ways to go
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Why are you waiting? The SuperRAM Sense build has been out a few days now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892797
it has problems and bugs , which I dont want to venture into
especially at 0.1
distruct said:
1. Get latest radio
2. Get a new and decent SD card!
3. light sensor? You mean the LED? Every build has problems with it.
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1. I installed the new radio and i still hear the robot voice, maybe i should install the build on the new radio again
2. My mem card is the stock card supplied with SE's Satio, it is 8 GB HC whatever that means, please suggest a decent card, should it be empty?
3. No i am talking abaout the light sensor, not the LED, this is the sensor, which turns the display off when you hold the phone to your ear, and it turns the display on when you are done
dddnnnggg said:
1. I installed the new radio and i still hear the robot voice, maybe i should install the build on the new radio again
2. My mem card is the stock card supplied with SE's Satio, it is 8 GB HC whatever that means, please suggest a decent card, should it be empty?
3. No i am talking abaout the light sensor, not the LED, this is the sensor, which turns the display off when you hold the phone to your ear, and it turns the display on when you are done
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1) If you read through the first post in his thread he addresses the robot voice. If you hear robot voice just make a phone call, press the speaker button, and then hangup. voila!! no more robot voice.
2) As far as the touch screen im not too sure, but ive never had a problem, its super responsive. Its best to reformat your card (using your windows sd card formatter) before installing any android app in order to make sure you have everything working properly when installed.
3) i believe there is an option for that, its pocket mode or something, wish i had a better answer for you but i have limited access at the moment.
The first post in the super ram froyo thread addresses heavy battery drain and robot voice and pretty much any major issue the build has.
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Angry birds working her. I have darkstone ram, and believe me... it is so fast... You need to try it before you can understand me. Everything is working, no issue her...
MulTiPass said:
Angry Birds is a must and works fine on mine. I am using the STOCK T-Mo USA ROM with the same Radio as you.
One thing is that I cant wait until the SUPER RAM with SENSE is 100% because I like SENSE better.
Im also glad to hear that the RAM is better than NAND as I cant afford to void the warranty or brick my cell.
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hi guys..
got a bit of a question.
ive read through many of the related posts but havent quite found the right answer to my question.
i have a tmobile hd2 with the latest official winmob rom, and have been trying out various android roms booting from sd.
well, heres the thing... there seems to be a two distinct types of roms in how it works after booting (several times to settle things down).
some lag and some simply dont.
for eg, rafdroid and mcmjoon desire hds have a distinct lag. it intermittently freezes.
on the other hand, core cell build, gingerbread builds and froyo superram builds have no lag/intermittently freezes.
its not an overall slowdown of the operating system, its intermittent short freezes.
i like some of the stable established builds but so far im resigned to only use those that dont lag as i cant figure out whats different that some lag and some dont.
am currently using darkstones superram froyo thats really very nice. i just wanted something with more eye candy and had sense cooked into.
anf btw.. what exactly is the security flaw thats a problem with darkstones superram?
thanking ya'll in advance for any and all replies.
regards,
asmd.
Sense uses alot or takes up a sizeable chunk of ram and storage so you can expect that sense makes roms bigger which therefore should in turn make them slower. So in all you won't find a sense build that is as smooth and fast as non sense builds. It's like a computer, the more stuff on your computer, the slower it runs.
Try the superam sense from darkstone, very fast with sense.
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thanks for the replies guys.
appreciate it.
am using superram froyo and so far its the bees knees!
im not talking about the general slowness of any build. that i know. some builds are faster than other but im talking about intermittent freezes. everything just stops for a moment and then continues. even typing on the on screen keyboard.
the most obvious that ive recently noted was between rafdroid and corecell for example. corecell ui is uniform, its not as fast as gingerbread or darkstones build but there are no freezes. rafdroid (and others) also have a a similar speed but inter spaced with intermittent freezes.
i formateed the sd card before trying any new build and only used the same card for all of them. so im wondering if im doing something worng or could it be something to do with radio versions... i'll admit that im a noob and it took mee weeks of reading before i had the balls to even an sd build of android. so this may be something of a simple question.
im using a stock standard hd with the the newest firmware updates.
regards,
asmd.