Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
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Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
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What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
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Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
Since the Apache has come out so close to the Wizard, does anyone (especially the monitors of forums) have any news of a CDMA version of the Universal? Some people on other sites have mentioned that it was possible that Imate might announce a CDMA version in September at a conference (whose name I forget). I would think that for the U.S.A. customers, Audiovox would be the rebrander (especially for me given that I am with Verizon). Does anyone know someone at Audiovox who would be in the know?
Also does anyone know some of the latest on this device? Is it going to have the graphic accelerater like the Dell Axim x50v. That device is amazing for graphics, videos look amazing and I think there is some games coming out soon that will take advantage of the chip.
I would also be very interested in a CDMA version of this phone. Specifically, a Sprint version. Oh man, it would be awesome if SPrint got a CDMA version running that graphics chip...
Gentelman, for now just go ahead and exhale! If it took almost 2 years to bring BA to the other side, CDMA, I can only imagine what this will take. I would love to have it myself but I think there is a better chance os getting a GSM version than CDMA. But who knows, I hope I am wrong about this one.
Well, there is a CDMA Wizard, so why not a CDMA Universal? Speaking of that, we need a Wizard section on this site...
Has anyone else heard more about a CDMA version of the Universal? I got confirmation from my VZW business rep yesterday, that Audiovox has a new phone that will going into testing that matches the Apache's specs. No release date yet though. I would imagine that Audiovox would rebrand this phone for the American CDMA like they did for the Blue Angel.
The Apache is a CDMA Wizard. It's scheduled for release on Sprint as the Audiovox (or whatever their new name is) PPC-6700 in September or October.
The Universal would be awesome though. We do need a CDMA version and we need to know about it before we all go out and buy the Wizard, lol.
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The Apache is a CDMA Wizard. It's scheduled for release on Sprint as the Audiovox (or whatever their new name is) PPC-6700 in September or October.
The Universal would be awesome though. We do need a CDMA version and we need to know about it before we all go out and buy the Wizard, lol.
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Actually, I think that I am going to buy the Apache, hopefully next month, and then hope that by the beginning of the year that the CDMA Universal is released. Then I am going to give the Apache to my wife, so that she can stay organized. She has been dying for a camera phone and I have been wanting her to get organized, so this would be a great phone for her.
I'm buying the Apache for my wife too. As soon as it comes out. And I'm also buying one for myself (unless there are rumors of a CDMA Universal making it to Sprint). So, hopefully we will hear about a CDMA Universal and the potential carriers before the Apache is released. I would sure hate to have to come up with the money for a Universal right after buying 2 Apaches.
Yeah I would say so. That is expensive buyer's remorse.
I'm sure many of you have already seen that the Hero is coming to Telus on November 5th. With that, I notice it's HSPA with 850/1900 bands. Does this mean at&t users in the USA can pop in their SIM and get at&t 3g in the USA?
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I'm sure many of you have already seen that the Hero is coming to Telus on November 5th. With that, I notice it's HSPA with 850/1900 bands. Does this mean at&t users in the USA can pop in their SIM and get at&t 3g in the USA?
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Yes, this version of the Hero will work with AT&T's 3G bands. I can't wait.
I am not feeling that excited anymore. If this came in August, then this could be a big deal.
Now? With so many more Android device coming, some of which will be running Android 1.6, some of which with better hardware, and some of which will even be running Android 2.0. Getting an Android 1.5 device that is using hardware that have been using for oh so many smartphones for the last 2 years doesn't make sense (unless it is ultra cheap, which will not be case for the Hero).
Don't get me wrong, I am a European version Hero user and I like the phone. I really wish there will be Android update to the phone in the near future. But seeing how Verizon's Droid Eris, which is basically the Hero with yet another new casing, launching in November (along side with Droid, which runs 2.0) is still running Android 1.5, I just don't want to be too optimistic.
Hopefully after some time, we will be able to find some Android 2.0 mod for the Hero here. This I am confident will happen.
Saw the Galaxy pocket video today, the end showed the carriers, TMO was one of the carriers, is thaqt TOMUS ? Has anyone heard when it will arrive to TMO ?
Definitely coming to T-Mo, although I don't think there is a hard date, but I'm fairly certain T-Mo will be last to release which is a little crappy for you, but it will be coming.
I am on Bell Mobility (Vibrant) here in Canada. I noticed Rogers will have the Galaxy S (Captivate) mid October and has officially stated “expect an update to OS 2.2 to be available early 2011.″ So anyone know if this would be Rogers dictating the release date or is it Samsung? Also, if Froyo is released early 2011 with Rogers' Captivate, would that most likely mean the same date for all Galaxy S devices in Canada?
While samsung release firmware,
carrier has to approve whether user can upgrade it or not.
Thus firmware can be out but if bell, your carrier, does not approve it,
You will never get official update.
This is particularly annoying because canada is usually slow.....