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When I charging my magic I get ~1%/min rate but when it reach 99% i have to wait 15 minutes to get full 100% charge. Why is that?
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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I do this couple of times without result
hmmm. dont know what else to tell you.
I did this to my g1 and the battery pretty much improved and i also didnt have the problem where it would get stuck at 99% and then take very to fully charge...
but like i said, its actually not a big deal. i mean once it gets to 99%, your phone realizes its not fully charge and takes longer as it tries to completely get it to 100% Charge
download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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This is not true with Li-Ion batteries. You have to opportunity charge them. You should not let the battery go below 50 percent before charging it again.
Read here.
http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
mine does the same thing. its no big deal. i am guessing that it is set up to charge very fast up to a certain point, then trickle charge. i have noticed on mine that when it charges really fast to 99% if i take it off the charger and use it for 10 min or so the battery level will drop down faster than normal, then level out again. lots of phones do this
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download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
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It says Good
Plain and simple: When the Evo is fully charged, it begins running off its battery until you plug it back in. It DOES NOT trickle charge whatsoever after it reaches 100%. When you're using your Evo on the charger, and it's showing full 100% charge, it is running off the battery, not the AC plug. And then when you unplug it, well, we all know what happens next. The battery meter drops insanely fast to the actual charge of the battery, which could be very low, depending on how long it's been sitting idle at 100% on your charger.
So all those times you've charged your Evo overnight, only to take it to work the next day and be at 80% within an hour? Your Evo was running off its battery for what I'm guessing was most of the night. It takes my Evo about an hour to two hours to fully charge back to 100%. Let's say you put your Evo on the charger at 11PM, it'll reach full charge by 1AM at the latest, and then run off its battery until whenever you take it off the charger in the morning.
Workarounds?
1) Turn your Evo off while it's charging.
2) If you must leave it on for an alarm clock, put it in airplane mode and end all CPU intensive tasks to minimize battery drain.
3) When you wake up, unplug it for 10-20 minutes (still experimenting with this number), and then plug it back in to top it off. Once it reaches 100%, take it off the charger, and go about your day.
Try it out for yourself. When your Evo is 100% charged, take it off the charger immediately, and I highly doubt you will lose the 10%-15% within minutes. Please share your findings.
Er... Point of note, mine does it even if I pull it off the charger right when it turns green.
Post some technical schematic or other type of proof that shows that this circuitry isn't available in the EVO. That will prove beyond a doubt if what your saying is true.
That being said, only a group of the most retarded electrical engineers would design a charging system as you've described. It is INSANELY easy to build Li-Polymer charging circuitry that does the following (and it pretty much has to do these):
1. Detects battery temperature, and disables charging as a protective measure. In an emergency case it should shut off the device it's powering to allow the battery to cool down. This is a design requirement, or else your house burns down as you dump water on a Lithium fire thinking it's going to put it out. If you have a HERO, you can easily test this. Running the wireless tethering, GPS/Navigation, and Music with the screen running heats up the phone a ton. You'll notice the status light blink green once, then red a couple of times. This means that it's plugged in but not charging. Cool the phone down and it turns solid red again (charging).
2. Disable charging cycle when battery reaches a certain voltage. VERY SIMPLE voltage detection circuitry! The designer can of course adjust a gap to have charging turn back on when it dips below a certain voltage. Usually since this circuitry can be made with a decent amount of precision, that "turn back on" voltage ends up being roughly when the battery discharges to maybe 99.5%. That's just a guess, I admit but there's no harm in having the circuit switch on and off, even if it's often.
There are also a few other circuits that prevent the cell from blowing up in your pocket, like a current sensor to prevent an overcurrent. There's also some stuff that prevents you from being able to discharge the cell below it's avalanche voltage. In case you don't know what that is, when a Li-Ion battery discharges to a certain voltage, it avalanches to 0 (quickly falls). If it hits that point, you've pretty much ruined the battery and it will never charge the same again.
Anyway, this is stuff they taught and had design labs on back in college. While I have no actual proof that the phone wasn't designed as the OP describes, I find it highly unlikely. If this is the behavior that the circuitry exhibits, I would find it easier to believe that it's a design flaw, probably because some idiot didn't compile the correct bill of materials.
I haven't got any schematics or any sort of technical information on the subject. All I know is, it works wonders for me. When I take my Evo off the charger in the morning, it literally drops to ~90% within minutes. Once it does that, if I place it back on the charger for ~20 minutes, it charges back to 100% and stays there for 45 minutes to an hour.
I'd urge anybody who is noticing the immediate 10% to 15% drop in battery to give this a shot.
I would turn it off while I'm charging it overnight, but I use it as my alarm clock
Me Too
I am seeing the exact same behavior as the OP. This is really lame. Because of this, most people will end up losing 10% of their battery every day. Pretty lame.
I charge my phone overnight every night. Never noticed a problem and I just checked my battery and its at 88% and has been off the charger for 2.5hours so I'm not seeing the rapid discharge issue some people are seeing.
I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.
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I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.
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I'm beginning to think that once the battery reaches 100% full, it runs off the battery until it reaches some arbitrary percentage. At which point it starts charging until it reaches 100% again, and then continues this cycle.
I'm testing a few other things right now. Part of me is convinced it reports 100% charge when it's actually below that level.
Krynj said:
I haven't got any schematics or any sort of technical information on the subject. All I know is, it works wonders for me. When I take my Evo off the charger in the morning, it literally drops to ~90% within minutes. Once it does that, if I place it back on the charger for ~20 minutes, it charges back to 100% and stays there for 45 minutes to an hour.
I'd urge anybody who is noticing the immediate 10% to 15% drop in battery to give this a shot.
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I'll try this out to see if I can get the same kind of behavior. I guess I honestly haven't looked to see if the phone drops 10-15% after pulling it off.
Krynj said:
I'm beginning to think that once the battery reaches 100% full, it runs off the battery until it reaches some arbitrary percentage. At which point it starts charging until it reaches 100% again, and then continues this cycle.
I'm testing a few other things right now. Part of me is convinced it reports 100% charge when it's actually below that level.
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This is what should be happening I believe, but I'd be surprised if it was set to such a huge swing like 10-15%
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I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.
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This is an interesting theory. I do know that when you have multiple Li-Ion cells in a battery pack, if they discharge unevenly, you have to go off of the lowest charged cell. Again, if a cell were to drop below the avalanche voltage, you'd ruin the pack all together. On the other hand, the circuitry should let ALL cells charge to 100% so it's even again. Maybe they screwed this up, that design isn't so easy! Perhaps it detects one cell as 100% and shuts off the charge. Therefore, one could surmise that if you started with an unevenly charged battery pack, you'd have an immediate decrease in charge to the rating of the lowest charged cell. The good news (maybe) is that this is sometimes implemented with software. That means that HTC could release a bug fix for this, or if we have a savvy dev, they could try to fix it. We just need to prove the theory though.
This is all just a guess, keep that in mind. If I notice something like this with my phone today, maybe I can tear apart the battery and measure the voltage on each cell (if it even has multiple cells). I have a spare, so maybe I'd be up for this. Krynj (or anyone), if you have the HTC Hero, try charging your battery pack with it, see if it exhibits the same behavior on the Hero itself. If it doesn't, then try putting it back into the EVO and see if after a night of charging, it still drops 10-15% after disconnecting it from the AC.
The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.
Apple laptops don't charge unless battery is below 90%. If you plug in the AC and the battery is above 90%, it will just run off AC power but I don't think the battery drains any then.
My battery life has been less than stellar, but I didn't notice it dropping 10-15% instantly off the charger. I did notice that it'd drop about 10% after driving to work with xiialive streaming, which was unusual to me. The battery would start running out after about 9 hours at work. I'd be in the yellow by the time I got home, and the battery would be complaining for a charge in the evening. So that's roughly 12 hours I would be getting out of the phone after normal use.
Since I'm suspecting an issue with the charging circuitry, I just recently tried charging my battery with the Hero. After it was fully charged, I put it back into my EVO last night and haven't charged it since. It's been running 13 hours, and is still nearly full green. The charge is at about 70%. I've been trying to graph the discharge all day too. It only dropped to 87% over night, dropped to 80% when I drove to work (xiialive), and then down to 74% after I spent some time setting up icons and modifying my home screen. This is...hands down a butt ton better than the past week.
I'm not using 4G.
WiFi is off.
3G is on.
GPS is on.
Not running a live wallpaper.
Sync is running at default settings.
Widgets that could be updating constantly:
I have the Clock/Weather HTC widget running.
I have the Dictionary.com "word of the day" widget.
I have the Friendstream Widget running.
Craigslist Craignotifica app is running, set to notify me with search results.
The results are inconclusive though. Yesterday, I wiped and re-flashed DamageControl 3.2.x from scratch (backed up all apps with Ti-Backup, this means Android Market won't be notifying me if there are app updates -grumble-). So, somewhere between re-flashing and also charging my battery with the Hero caused this turn around.
apollooff320 said:
The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.
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Interesting.....Will have to give a try. Will report back later.
I'm waiting for some definitive results with the "use another charging device or battery" method. It seems that the EVO just sucks at recharging the battery since people who have used another phone or a separate charger seem to report better results.
I leave my phone off at night and charge it - when I turn it on in the morning it still drops 5-10% in the first 20 minutes. But during the day it drops REALLY slow, so I still can get about 13-16 hours before 15% easily.
I have manual account sync, 3g only, wifi at home, usually gps is off, auto backlight settings for screen, and I don't run too many apps in the background, I just use them when I need them.
Has anybody found a solution to this? It's really starting to bother me. I've noticed that I don't seem to have the issue if I charge -> recovery -> wipe battery stats -> reboot. That kind of leads me to believe that something is inaccurate about the battery stats and the phone instead uses the actual raw value provided by the battery instead of whatever it is that it does with the battery stats.
I can tell you this, I bought two of the cheap battery chargers off of ebay and I have two OEM evo batteries. I don't even plug my phone in anymore. I get an hour of standby at 100% from those chargers and it falls instantly when charging from the phone. I just run them down then swap them out. I couldn't be happier and they are only like 10 bucks each with 2 batteries each.
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jnewkirk10 said:
I can tell you this, I bought two of the cheap battery chargers off of ebay and I have two OEM evo batteries. I don't even plug my phone in anymore. I get an hour of standby at 100% from those chargers and it falls instantly when charging from the phone. I just run them down then swap them out. I couldn't be happier and they are only like 10 bucks each with 2 batteries each.
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can you post a link or ebay or where ever u bought it from?
Try this I'm doing it from the phone
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250641711190&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1991wt_913
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apollooff320 said:
The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.
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If you have apps on your sd card that are running then yes that could be the case. SD cards need power to work but I dont know how much they draw..
Prior to getting the Galaxy S, after I read what Samsung were saying in the manual of not to overcharge, I investigated the reasons and wrote in various topics on the battery and the differences between Li-Ion & Li-Pol battery types.
At that point with all the evidence found it made sense to believe that what Samsung were saying in not to overcharge was accurate.
Basically, at that time it was believed the phone used a Li-Pol, Li-Pol batteries are different in that they are 'wet cell' as opposed to Li-Ion which are 'dry cell' charged.
Li-Pol can be manufactured much thinner but can not be manufactured in different shapes.
This is to allow the wet cells whilst under charge which become hot to move around the battery freely. If a Li-Pol was manufactured in different shapes like Li-Ion it would create a 'hot-spot' in an area where the wet cell could not move fluidly around the remainder of the battery.
However, it has now come to light that this is not the case and that the batteries provided with the phone are indeed Li-Ion.
Anyway, moving on to the present.......
After now getting the phone and doing a bit of testing I have found the overcharging issue NOT to be an issue.
When you commence a charge on the phone the icon changes to a charge state.
However, once the battery has reached maximum charge capacity the battery icon automatically changes to a 'Non-Charge' state and then the phone simply runs off it's own battery. This is despite the phone is still connected to the charger.... It's just that the charger although still attached is no longer charging the battery.
As soon as the battery falls below a certain figure (I've had different figures ranging from 98% right down to 91% which is probably due to whatever the phone is doing at that particular time to wake the phone up from realizing "hey, you are still attached to a charger, now wake up and start charging again").
So to all of us who have been worried about overcharging, my personal advise is to NOT worry and charge as and when you feel the need.
Hope this helps.
Beards
Thanks for clear up, I was always been scared while charging that it may blow up.
Nice find!
However, it has now come to light that this is not the case and that the batteries provided with the phone are indeed Li-Ion.
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When you say "it has come to light", what do you mean? Is it just your deduction from your battery tests, or did you see this info from Samsung?
From what I understood, the LI-Pol overcharging is an issue in theory, but in real life applications its not a problem as long as you use the charger that is designed with LiPol in mind, it will auto shutoff charging once it senses the battery is full.
I have just charged mine from bone empty to full. A notification came up stating that the battery was full and to disconnect the charger. Although the battery monitor app says it is not charging and the normal battery meter has gone solid.
I agree that it seems to stop the charging circuit. Although I thought we were getting LiPo not li ion for these as well it's definitely li ion though.
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When you say "it has come to light", what do you mean? Is it just your deduction from your battery tests, or did you see this info from Samsung?
From what I understood, the LI-Pol overcharging is an issue in theory, but in real life applications its not a problem as long as you use the charger that is designed with LiPol in mind, it will auto shutoff charging once it senses the battery is full.
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Take the battery out and turn it over. Now read the battery type and you will see it says Li-Ion.
if such, it will reduce the re-charge cycle....
i suggest, power off the phone and then keep charge overnight will be safe....
otherwise, if it is on and charges only full then disconnect it
hkfriends said:
if such, it will reduce the re-charge cycle....
i suggest, power off the phone and then keep charge overnight will be safe....
otherwise, if it is on and charges only full then disconnect it
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Modern battery's don't have cycles where you loose power by continuously topping up the battery.
The practice I use is I charge whenever I get the chance, then after around 30 charges I run it right down and do a full charge.
As to powering off the phone to charge, this is not always convenient.
I need my phone on all the time in case I get an emergency call-out and I'm sure there are others who need their phones on overnight to use as a morning alarm.
Finally, I'm not sure if the practice you mention in powering off the phone and charging overnight would have the same effect in being able to re-charge when the battery level drops.
I think doing it in your method the charger would continuously hit the battery regardless as to whether or not it is fully charged ~ which in effect is what Samsung are saying in not to overcharge.
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...once the battery has reached maximum charge capacity the battery icon automatically changes to a 'Non-Charge' state and then the phone simply runs off it's own battery. This is despite the phone is still connected to the charger.... It's just that the charger although still attached is no longer charging the battery.
As soon as the battery falls below a certain figure (I've had different figures ranging from 98% right down to 91% which is probably due to whatever the phone is doing at that particular time to wake the phone up from realizing "hey, you are still attached to a charger, now wake up and start charging again").
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To me it seems like the phone will NOT use the battery as long as it is plugged in. On my phone the battery meter never drops under 100 % when connected.
Beards said:
Modern battery's don't have cycles where you loose power by continuously topping up the battery.
The practice I use is I charge whenever I get the chance, then after around 30 charges I run it right down and do a full charge.
As to powering off the phone to charge, this is not always convenient.
I need my phone on all the time in case I get an emergency call-out and I'm sure there are others who need their phones on overnight to use as a morning alarm.
Finally, I'm not sure if the practice you mention in powering off the phone and charging overnight would have the same effect in being able to re-charge when the battery level drops.
I think doing it in your method the charger would continuously hit the battery regardless as to whether or not it is fully charged ~ which in effect is what Samsung are saying in not to overcharge.
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AFAIK, the reason to fully deplete the battery is to properly calibrate the % remaining in your battery. Running your battery down to empty causes more stress to the phone than running it down 50%. I happened to get a free battery with my device, but I would've bought a spare if I didn't get a free one, so I can easily go 3-5 days depending on usage, during this time I have my house and work to do charges. However, let's say I were to be expecting to have less frequent charges, such as taking a vacation, prior to that I would be fully depleting the battery to 0% to calibrate because then the battery level is more important to me. The trade off of long-term life vs short term accuracy is a very easy decision for me to make due to my situation.
In older batteries you had to "use the cells or lose them" situation where it was better, to at least occasionally, completely run down the device rather than doing partial cycles. These days, charging @ 50% 2 times is equivalent to 1 cycle of 100% with less long-term "stress" to the battery.
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To me it seems like the phone will NOT use the battery as long as it is plugged in. On my phone the battery meter never drops under 100 % when connected.
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Same for me.
The reason it tells you to unplug the charger when done charging has nothing to do with battery. It is to save power. Battery chargers still draw some power just because they are plugged in. And in these green times it is ofcourse very popular to have warnings everywhere so you can claim to a green company. And every lithium ion and polymer battery contains electronics designed to protect them from abuse. Including over charging. So that will never be a problem on any phone unless you have a defective battery.
Is there a way to disable the message telling you to unplug the charger? I charge my phone overnight and use it as a clock, but when I wake up in the morning and try to see the time there's this huge popup in the middle of the screen telling me my battery has charged.
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Is there a way to disable the message telling you to unplug the charger? I charge my phone overnight and use it as a clock, but when I wake up in the morning and try to see the time there's this huge popup in the middle of the screen telling me my battery has charged.
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I think I read that the newest, or maybe just a random middle since something has superseded it, firmware fixed this.
interesting topic thx Beards for sharing your insights.
Overcharging - read the manual
Guys, if you will read the manual that came with your SGS, it says there that "DO NOT OVERCHARGE YOUR BATTERY FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS". It obviously means that the battery can be overcharged for more than a day as long as it is not more than 2 weeks ( I doubt if someone will be able to do that). So that confirms also that we can recharge anytime and not necessarily have it done to zero before charging. Hope this helps also
i've pretty much quit worrying about the overcharge after the first month of usage
i was following the auto pop up message, just because i wanted to conserve battery
but having 3 spare battery made me though it's futile
and it was extreme annoying to wakeup in the middle of the night, just to unplug it
it was awesome the day i found that patch on the forum to disable the annoying pop up alert that your battery is full.
now i can sleep the whole night without the alert coming online, and rest at ease knowing if the phone actually alerts me, it'll be a phone call or something important, not some annoying "unplug me plz!" message
Hey try this out..this is going to sound weird but stick with me.
Im on rooted OTA stock running netarchy's 4.2 kernel. The battery life is the bees knees while the phone is idle, but while the phone was on it was sucking (that's to be expected right?)
But then I started charging up my phone recently from 57%, so I get to 92% so i can send a text (my chord is effed up, so i cant just pick it up and send it while its charging or else it will short out) and I noticed that the whole time im typing im still on 92%. Big whoop most of y'all are thinking, but this text was 11 texts...
I think unless we are using a wall charger, we should stop charging our batteries to 100%..I say this because there is something wonky going on when we do charge to "100%." I lost 8% in 20mins from 100% while my phone was idle on this kernel, yet whenever I half-ass charge it, i can hold it like there's no tomorrow.
So i propose that if your phone is 50% at night, charge it until you reach about 85% before sleeping; then in the morning plug it back up to the charger and make sure you dont hit 100% or anything close, try to get it to 95% then start your day. I think this will give some killer battery life.
Just a thought.
I charge my phone up to 97%. gives me almost 15 hrs. of use.
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
Noxious Ninja said:
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
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I know that and understand it, but I don't understand why other people know this and still complain about losing the 10% in the first 10 minutes when they can easily stop it.
Oh well, kernel .35 that's being worked on toast fixes this apparently.
Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
i charge to 100 % every time and get 15 - 17 hours per charge with moderate use
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Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
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I see what ya sayin, that's true. I just can't bare to see that drop from 100 though since i really do use my phone heavy, it replaces my laptop while at school, so my awake time and uptime are usually within 30 mins of each other (I don't let it take any naps)
I'll just say that this is my own personal solution, since it makes me feel better haha
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
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Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
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If you want to objectively test this theory, do three runs:
1. Charge to 100% and remove after ten minutes.
2. Charge to 100% and remove after two hours
3. Charge to 95% and remove.
To make it go faster, run your most intensive applications and time how long it takes to drain. To do this test properly, there needs to be many different trials with a proper control; however, this should serve our purposes well enough. Any takers on doing this? I can't go that long without using my phone for work/school.
jonnythan said:
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
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+1. Everyone has a $500 phone which they paid at least $200 for. You can go on eBay and order two generic 1600mah batteries from China for $10 shipped with an extra wall charges that charges your phone via the USB cable and one of the batteries at the same time. Problem solved.
I know what people are going to start to say: "Those batteries aren't as good as the OEM ones." Well, does it really matter? I've gotten over 12 hours of moderate use on a generic battery and I'm OC'd. Charge the batteries and keep them in your car since your car is going to be where ever you are. It is much more inconvenient to have to have your phone on a charger all the time than it is to swap batteries.
i'm surprised that this is such a well known issue yet nobody has provided a fix for it.
if i'm correct when the phone is off it charges, but not when it's in recovery. so couldn't there be a kernel/software patch that would charge to 99% then put the phone into "recovery mode" so to speak so it would stop charging, essentially never letting it get to 100%?
doing that is beyond me, but with what i've seen done here this seems like a piece of cake for some of our devs?
still dont see why poeple call it a "problem" , its been explained that its not a problem many times
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
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Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
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Its like the fps, 55fps is good but 60 "feels" so much better so why not go for 60?
And really, this was just a thought. I have 3 batteries, but on days where its raining and I have to catch the bus...I'd rather not have them on me.
Hi everyone, i've ordered a new battery (Polarcell 2900mah) and i should receive it this week...i saw somewhere that android does not really read the battery percentage, but instead estimate it. I also read about battery recalibration or initialization which is fundamental for android to proper estimate the actual power contained in the battery, but i'm a little bit confused anyway...since i want my new battery to work proper and last as long as it could, do someone among you know about this fact? Is there any guide? I can't find anything.
P.S. i have a I9505 (jfltexx) and i'm actually on RR v5.6.3...so android 6.0.1
That is complete BS.
I never "calibrated" mine.
PS: most calibration apps do the same thing, and that is to delete a file that has no connection with the battery percentage. This was stated by a Google engineer.
Batteries should come charged at 50%
That's the perfect storage charge.
If there was any calibration method, then it would be: let it discharge completely, then recharge it to 100%.
Another note, valid for Li-on batteries: The deeper the discharge the shorter its life will be. In other words, if you let it discharge as low as 20%, or lower, every day, the battery life (before it needs replacing again) will be shorter.
Another thing: Leaving the battery at 100% charge for extended periods can also damage its ability to hold a charge for a longer time.
GDReaper said:
That is complete BS.
I never "calibrated" mine.
PS: most calibration apps do the same thing, and that is to delete a file that has no connection with the battery percentage. This was stated by a Google engineer.
Batteries should come charged at 50%
That's the perfect storage charge.
If there was any calibration method, then it would be: let it discharge completely, then recharge it to 100%.
Another note, valid for Li-on batteries: The deeper the discharge the shorter its life will be. In other words, if you let it discharge as low as 20%, or lower, every day, the battery life (before it needs replacing again) will be shorter.
Another thing: Leaving the battery at 100% charge for extended periods can also damage its ability to hold a charge for a longer time.
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I'm not talking about fabulous apps which do magic things...i mean, as i read, there should be some cycles of charge and discharge which nave to be done, not for the battery, but for android, in order to really manage the power in the battery, without those 20% from 100% to 80% dropping like stones. Sorry for my bad english, i hope i explained myself.
Guarino95 said:
I'm not talking about fabulous apps which do magic things...i mean, as i read, there should be some cycles of charge and discharge which nave to be done, not for the battery, but for android, in order to really manage the power in the battery, without those 20% from 100% to 80% dropping like stones. Sorry for my bad english, i hope i explained myself.
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No it's complete crap. Android does that perfectly fine. There is really nothing you need to do.
That only applied to phones 4 years ago. You never need to calibrate it anymore.
Guarino95 said:
I'm not talking about fabulous apps which do magic things...i mean, as i read, there should be some cycles of charge and discharge which nave to be done, not for the battery, but for android, in order to really manage the power in the battery, without those 20% from 100% to 80% dropping like stones. Sorry for my bad english, i hope i explained myself.
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As I said, I never calibrated mine and it works.
That whole "Let it discharge completely and then charge it over night" is just a left-over from the old batteries. Those new kind of batteries don't need that.
Those batteries aren't ment to stay at full charge all the time. That is the reason for the fast drop. Mine drops for 100% to 99% in the first 5 minutes. And it drops like that until it stabilizes at around 94%.
The moment your battery needs calibration is when the phone shows 30% left and it suddenly turns off. That means it shows a wrong percentage, or that the battery needs to be replaced.
OK, then i'll just swap that battery and use the phone normally...thank you all
lithium batteries don't want to be left fully charged or fully discharged for too long. it damages the poles if that's the right way to say it. so outside of that just follow what your new battery makers recommendations