Hi,
When I charging my magic I get ~1%/min rate but when it reach 99% i have to wait 15 minutes to get full 100% charge. Why is that?
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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I do this couple of times without result
hmmm. dont know what else to tell you.
I did this to my g1 and the battery pretty much improved and i also didnt have the problem where it would get stuck at 99% and then take very to fully charge...
but like i said, its actually not a big deal. i mean once it gets to 99%, your phone realizes its not fully charge and takes longer as it tries to completely get it to 100% Charge
download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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This is not true with Li-Ion batteries. You have to opportunity charge them. You should not let the battery go below 50 percent before charging it again.
Read here.
http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
mine does the same thing. its no big deal. i am guessing that it is set up to charge very fast up to a certain point, then trickle charge. i have noticed on mine that when it charges really fast to 99% if i take it off the charger and use it for 10 min or so the battery level will drop down faster than normal, then level out again. lots of phones do this
bonesy said:
download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
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It says Good
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How long does it take to charge the battery the first time you charge (out of the box)?
Man, I want to turn on my phone!!!
you can use the phone while its charging... just make sure to charge it to 100%.
Oh, really? The little quick start page says charge until the light turns green. I thought you had to leave it off, since the light goes away when you turn it on.
Anyway, the light turned green, yay! (Took about 2 hours)
lol, I don't know if this common sense or not, but why exactly should you charge it until the light turns green when you first get it? I know it says it in the instructions, but can any bad come out of not doing it, or does Google/HTC or whoever just recommend you do this?
Eclair~ said:
lol, I don't know if this common sense or not, but why exactly should you charge it until the light turns green when you first get it? I know it says it in the instructions, but can any bad come out of not doing it, or does Google/HTC or whoever just recommend you do this?
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Shorten battery life. Battery cycles etc
Lithium ion batteries last much longer if they don't experience deep discharge cycles... (deep discharge meaning the charge percentage going below ~50% or so). So it's much better for the battery if you charge it regularly, and only fully discharge it every other month or so to keep it conditioned.
Mine charges all the time since it tethered a lot! My past batterys on other ppc's seem to have held up well because of this!
The purpose in this charge handy first and so in is just to prevent a deep decharge which will destroy the battery (yes, one time letting get down the battery to less than 10-5% means you'll loose about 20-30% of capazity!) and to train the logic behind it. The phone does need to know where the full and empty point are to show you correct rest capacitys. Thats why you should let get down the battery once and a while to the point your phone tells you it needs power and then charge it complitely. It has nothing to do with anykind of memory effect or whatever, it's just a kind of calibration, not more.
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
Nice! Ill test that later today
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
I know but there were many threads about battery not charging up to 100% so I just decided to help a little)
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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can you provide more info on this?
alexvega said:
can you provide more info on this?
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It wont shorten it thats BS.
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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Charging to 100% will not shorten the battery life if any Lithium Ion or lipo battery, but if you discharge past 5% will kill the battery faster. This I know from using the lipo battery's on my big RC Helicopters and that the ESC's have a low voltage cutoff on them to keep from doing damage to the battery. All lipo batterys are built the same so before someone says it is not the same, YES it is!!!
bolabola118 said:
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
bfksc said:
Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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hopefully an OTA will fix these issues.
Does anybody have access to a Moment,Instinct HD, Behold II? Charge your Nexus S to 95% and then put battery in one of these phones and see what battery reading you get.
bolabola118 said:
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Doesn't work...sorry.
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
igneo said:
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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ive done this and i never reach 100%. the highest i have gone is 98%.
This is curious. I usually pick my phone in the morning and read some tweets and news before I get up, while the phone is still connected to the charger. When I 1st take it it has about 96-97% but after I use the phone for some time it goes up to 98 or 99%, but never got 100%.
does that 5% really make that much of a difference? maybe it helps the battery to not go to 100%, maybe it doesn't...
but are you really using the battery down to 5% before charging it where it makes that huge of a difference?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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any real input on this? or just an assumption?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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Let me guess... Google told you first?
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guys is better to charge the phone before it is <5% or not?
if you leave the screen on while charging, you can charge it to 100%, i do it a few times a week. as soon as the screen goes off over 95%, it will stop charging, at that point just unplug it, then plug it back in and leave the screen on. itll get to 100%. have patience, itll just takes some time.
Well I decided to do the thing where you charge all the way, turn off, charge again and remove battery stats, my battery wouldn't go above 95% charge even overnight. I decided to drain all the way and then remove battery stats, now it goes to 97%, any ideas? not sure if its just reading wrong or what.
keep reading, there must be over 40 threads about this
It is not reading incorrectly, it's just being honest with you. Please use the search function.
th3drow said:
Well I decided to do the thing where you charge all the way, turn off, charge again and remove battery stats, my battery wouldn't go above 95% charge even overnight. I decided to drain all the way and then remove battery stats, now it goes to 97%, any ideas? not sure if its just reading wrong or what.
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its only supposed to charge to 95-97%. its a feature to help preserve your battery. if you want to see 100%, youll need to bump charge it there or charge the rest of the way with your screen on.
simms22 said:
its only supposed to charge to 95-97%. its a feature to help preserve your battery. if you want to see 100%, youll need to bump charge it there or charge the rest of the way with your screen on.
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What simms said, watching a couple YouTube videos or anything that uses the processor above light usage will make it charge to 100% but I don't know if that's good for your battery .
As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
Oogway13 said:
As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
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This must be one of the changes for CM9 nightly for the 4G because for the first time yesterday I saw it showed 100% after taking it off the charger.
Oogway13 said:
As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
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This must be one of the changes for CM9 nightly for the 4G because for the first time yesterday I saw it showed 100% after taking it off the charger.
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yup, its only a cosmetic fix. its not a true 100%.
this is normal, the battery charge only 97%. 100% is only cosmetic.
Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
You should be able to charge as long as you want w no problems as long as you're doing this in a cool or room-temp environment (rather than say leaving it alone in a car charging at high noon w AC off, windows down & no sun shades on the windshield). If you have your phone charging in hi-temp conditions too long\often your battery swells & you get gradual irreparable damage.
HeyyMyNameIs said:
Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
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If u make a correct use of your battery it won't get damaged. Extreme overclock, overvolt, etc can ruin your battery, but if u charge it every day because ur battery is empty it's ok, and u won't have any problem.
luiseteyo said:
If u make a correct use of your battery it won't get damaged. Extreme overclock, overvolt, etc can ruin your battery, but if u charge it every day because ur battery is empty it's ok, and u won't have any problem.
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what if I charge it eventhough the battery isnt empty?
HeyyMyNameIs said:
what if I charge it eventhough the battery isnt empty?
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You should be fine. Just look out for power surges!
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You should be fine. Just look out for power surges!
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thanks man =) thanks to the both of you who replied
Normally, when your phone reaches 100 % full battery level, it stops charging and starts discharging. At around 95 % level, it starts charging again. This all takes a toll on the battery, especially over a long period.
If your phone's battery is at or above 50%, leave it alone or turn it off for the night.
I have an external battery pack for use during the day time, just for situations like this.
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Been thinking of asking this for some time. Thanks OP for posting and big thanks to those who replied.
jamesc760 said:
Normally, when your phone reaches 100 % full battery level, it stops charging and starts discharging. At around 95 % level, it starts charging again. This all takes a toll on the battery, especially over a long period.
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I don't think that's correct. It should switch to a trickle charge, which won't harm the battery, not stop charging completely.
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What I spend a lot of time charging the phone through USB? I leave it on charge at work plugged into the computer through USB as there are no free plug sockets. My battery just seems to be getting worse and worse over the last couple of months... Could this be the problem?
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HeyyMyNameIs said:
Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
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It'll automatically stop charging itself when it's full, it's impossible to overcharge a modern cell phone battery these days. They are a bit more computerized than the old nicad batteries from back in the day. It's actually healthier to give lithium batteries partial charges at a time instead of draining to zero percent and charging to 100 percent.
phil35 said:
What I spend a lot of time charging the phone through USB? I leave it on charge at work plugged into the computer through USB as there are no free plug sockets. My battery just seems to be getting worse and worse over the last couple of months... Could this be the problem?
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I doubt it. Could be a faulty battery, but more likely to be apps draining it in the background. Install BetterBatteryStats and see what is using the battery.
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i'm using app called full battery & theft alarm. i always charge my phone during sleep, and this app will wake me up to disconnect the charger if the battery is full.
i hope this will prolong the battery life
How do you know your battery is getting worse if it's always charging?
My personal experience is the less you charge it, the better it will perform. However, when you DO charge it, make sure you are less than 30% battery and charge it to 100% before removing it.
For me it's easy, I basically charge my phone at night when I go to bed and that's it. I easily get through an entire day on this phone, though I admit I usually only have about 2-1/2 hours screen on time (I mostly use my tablet when I am at home)
Hi guys, I've got this phone passed down by my mum. It's an old Samsung Note 4 but it's still working fine except the battery readings are totally out.
When I mean totally out, it's like switching off when it hits 30%. Sometimes it keeps going on after it hits 0%. I tried keeping a battery pack on it but it'll just do the same thing.
Just like to know if it helps getting a new battery or is there anything I can do to 'reset' the battery?
Thanks folks!
When a Note 4 shuts off at 30% that usually means that the battery is toast. Get yourself a new Anker battery for $16.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Replac...01204841&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+battery+note+4
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Hi guys, I've got this phone passed down by my mum. It's an old Samsung Note 4 but it's still working fine except the battery readings are totally out.
When I mean totally out, it's like switching off when it hits 30%. Sometimes it keeps going on after it hits 0%. I tried keeping a battery pack on it but it'll just do the same thing.
Just like to know if it helps getting a new battery or is there anything I can do to 'reset' the battery?
Thanks folks!
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Like previous stated, battery is most likely going bad. But I figured I give you an alternative to try first. It won't hurt.
Power off your phone and charge it to 100%
Turn it on.
In play store search for "Nema battery". The first result should be it. It's called "Battery Calibrater" and is by Nema.
Install it. And follow directions.
Most all battery apps are crap. But a few people told me this really does calibrate the phone.
Also take note of what amps capacity it says your battery has.
It maybe worth the try.
Thanks buddy, I'll give it a shot.
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Also take note of what amps capacity it says your battery has.
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Just fired up the app and it says 4300mV max .
The specs of Note 4 states that the battery is Li-Ion 3220 mAh; Is that 4300mV?
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Just fired up the app and it says 4300mV max .
The specs of Note 4 states that the battery is Li-Ion 3220 mAh; Is that 4300mV?
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That's the voltage. When it's plugged in, it'll be close to 5v. Unplugged it'll be lower.
That app might not have the reading I'm thinking of. No matter, you can try it.
Just for comparative proposes, I just installed it. And yes mine also shows 4300mv max.
But unplugged it's showing 3995mv, I'm at 75%.
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That's the voltage. When it's plugged in, it'll be close to 5v. Unplugged it'll be lower.
That app might not have the reading I'm thinking of. No matter, you can try it.
Just for comparative proposes, I just installed it. And yes mine also shows 4300mv max.
But unplugged it's showing 3995mv, I'm at 75%.
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I see.
I think a different figure shows up when I charge it turned on or off. If I hit 100% charge, it'll show up with less than that when I try charging it turned off.
I'll try the app once I get to 100%. Is that 100% referring to the phone being turned on or off while charging?
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I see.
I think a different figure shows up when I charge it turned on or off. If I hit 100% charge, it'll show up with less than that when I try charging it turned off.
I'll try the app once I get to 100%. Is that 100% referring to the phone being turned on or off while charging?
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They mean with it on.
I only suggested charging it off. Cause it's suppose to charge fully better that way I guess. You'll be able to tell when it's fully charged that way. Either way probably won't matter for your case. Cause it's either gonna help or nothing much, then you'll know if you should move on and try new battery.
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They mean with it on.
I only suggested charging it off. Cause it's suppose to charge fully better that way I guess. You'll be able to tell when it's fully charged that way. Either way probably won't matter for your case. Cause it's either gonna help or nothing much, then you'll know if you should move on and try new battery.
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Yeah, you're right, last ditch effort to see if the battery works.
Another strange behavior is the speed of charging. I use the same charger with the same cable for this test. Funny thing is sometimes the battery takes ages to get to 50% from 0% but on good days, it gets from 0% to 50% in a snap.
Is this behavior of a faulty battery? Or am I dealing with a faulty circuit board? I'm on stock ROM so it's easier to troubleshoot.
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Yeah, you're right, last ditch effort to see if the battery works.
Another strange behavior is the speed of charging. I use the same charger with the same cable for this test. Funny thing is sometimes the battery takes ages to get to 50% from 0% but on good days, it gets from 0% to 50% in a snap.
Is this behavior of a faulty battery? Or am I dealing with a faulty circuit board? I'm on stock ROM so it's easier to troubleshoot.
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I couldn't say. But it sounds like fast charge is working on and off. Probably bad aging battery.
poit said:
When a Note 4 shuts off at 30% that usually means that the battery is toast. Get yourself a new Anker battery for $16.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Replac...01204841&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+battery+note+4
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How is the Anker battery?