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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgO1lls1NLE
damn impressive and fast. windows mobile interface is totaly hidden.
anybody working on porting this to our devices. i hope the non-standard screen resolution doent slow development on this thing
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http://www.meizu.com/cn/Taste.html
the keyboard and some of the integrated apps in the video look good too.
hope this gets enough interest from the developers here
that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
theelite said:
that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
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I seemed to see there S2P and TCPMP?
And have multi touch screen like iPhone !
i´m impressed, can´t believe this is windows mobile, so they did a good job. the phone has a 3,4 zoll display with 720x480 Pixel ! and a ARM-Prozessor with 800 Megahertz (SPEEED) !!! But no 3G
The GUI or OS or whatever is unbelievable smoth fast and eyecandy. I´m just wondering why they use windows ce 6.0 and microsoft itself is still on windows ce 5.x ?
they used Windows CE6 probably cause Microsoft made the kernel shared source, also no GPS.
The M8 I think is still doomed, too little to late at this point.
For them to compete in the states it would of least had to be 3G with GPS.
well upgrades for this device to WM7 will be more easy because it already uses the CE6 kernel
im a noob here but
1-whats the difference between wm6 and ce?
2-tcmp was there in the video doent this make it compatible with windiws mobile
3-why are the newest htc phones are based 5.2 and this one 6.0
4-is the still UI portable if its not based on windiws mobile
this would be AMAZING to port over.
or at least make a clone of.
M8 is 2 years late. Nobody is interested in this phone anymore.
who cares about the phone. i dont think anybody cared about touch 3g or viva. but it gave us manila2d for all our other devices
its the software we're intrested in.
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this UI seems to be the fack iphone is it not?
the ones made in china?
+1 on that
this ui looks great and would really be an improvement...
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that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
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its not their own os, the os is windows ce. they just have their custom shell running on windows ce. windows mobile is windows ce too but with microsofts mobile shell.
Wow its so fast and responsive. No loading icons. Unbelieveable! If Windows Mobile uses the same CE but just a different shell, why do we have so many loading wait icons when obviously we have proof that it does not need to be that way? Would love to see this OS on the HTC Touch HD.
fatso485 said:
im a noob here but
1-whats the difference between wm6 and ce?
2-tcmp was there in the video doent this make it compatible with windiws mobile
3-why are the newest htc phones are based 5.2 and this one 6.0
4-is the still UI portable if its not based on windiws mobile
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1-WM 6 has only 40% (i think) of the code available for customizing, win ce 6 has 100% so full customisation is possible.
2-some winmo apps run on the M8 a tester showed screens of Igo 8. So some will work, others not.
3-wince6 will be used for winmo 7
4-ui may not be portable as it has been said is a full customisation of wince. It touches part that are not accesible in winmo.
windows mobile 6 is based on windows ce 5 and window mobile 7 will base on windows ce 6. mmh but how can a small chinese company blame microsoft with this better and newer OS ?. So no chance for porting this to wm6.
I am pretty sure it's their own propietary OS based on Windows 6 CE kernel not just a shell, this is what has been said over at meizume.com
I just don't want people thinking this is just going to be straight up Windows 6 CE with just a pretty GUI on top of it. Though since it is still based on CE 6, I guess it depends on what kinda terminology you use for shell.
The CEO is looking to market the OS to developers to make proprietary software and app store and so forth..though I don't see that catching on real well.
o2neouzr said:
its not their own os, the os is windows ce. they just have their custom shell running on windows ce. windows mobile is windows ce too but with microsofts mobile shell.
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The Meizu is a good phone but it is a long time he had to leave, they refer each time leaving probably because of complaints from apple
An official screenshot in a series of leaked Windows Mobile 7, although nothing official has been announced yet. Word on the street has it that this new operating system will be made available to OEMs before the year is over, and we can see Windows Mobile 7-powered handsets by the time spring 2010 rolls around. What do you think about the screenshot - is it the real deal? And will It be cooked for our lovely ELF/in???
Surely yes.but as of now,all the news is not to be believed.we need to wait.
WM7 uses a different version of WinCE as compared to WM5/6/6.1/6.5/6.5.1/6.5.3 (which all use the same version) so the drivers and the nk.exe files will probably not be compatible. Unfortunately, this means that (more than likely) no one will get this ported unless an official ROM is released. (Not to mention WM7 will probably have higher hardware requirements.)
I see lots of people say when windows mobile 7 goes on our device it will be unbeatable, why is this? I dont really see much wrong with this one lol
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I see lots of people say when windows mobile 7 goes on our device it will be unbeatable, why is this? I dont really see much wrong with this one lol
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I don't know about unbeatable but WM7 has gone through several delays as I'm sure Microsoft is aware that they are standing on there last leg to keep there (9%) of there mobile market shares, so......
...if Microsoft is smart, and it looks like they seem to be (delays signify that WM7 is not quite ready and thus, not rushing it), it should be a much improved Operating System as it has to compete against Symbian and Apple's and blackberry.
Market Shares:
Symbian....50.3%
Blackberry..20.9%
Iphone........13.7%
Windows.......9.0%
Andriod.......2.8%
WM 6.5 was was not even supposed to have existed but due to the delays, 6.5 was nothing more than a stand in, holding it's place for what some have anticipated to be revolutionary OS. Not sure if they will push through with that term when it actually comes out of the gates. Time will tell...
There isn't too much wrong with this one. Windows Mobile 6.5 is by far the most powerful mobile OS and it's getting bashed just because it lacks a nice and simple user interface.
Windows Mobile 7 will bring a new, hopefully exciting, user interface, probably based on Silverlight, new APIs for developers to create great applications that look and work much better than what we have now and better integration with Microsoft's services (Zune, XBox, Windows Live, Bing...).
On the other side, it will probably break compatibility with most, if not all, currently available applications.
freyberry said:
On the other side, it will probably break compatibility with most, if not all, currently available applications.
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And I think it should. The past should be scrapped to create a new future. Like OS9 to OSX and PalmOS to WebOS. Bring emulation if really needed.
Don't forget the new core of the CE which will fully support the new fast processors. That means we get an even faster phone.
windows 7 base on ce 6.0 core so ther wont be any backward compatibility.
Probably new core will be much stable and faster (support for FPU) and some othre stuff.
will windows mobile 7 be freely avalible on hd2? some sites are saying yes and others are saying no. it is my understanding that wm 6.5 and wm7 will co-exist, with wm7 aimed at high end devices (i assume because of the higher system requirements). would be good if HTC gave the hd2 wm7, as it would really open up the device in terms of performance and features.
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will windows mobile 7 be freely avalible on hd2?
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Nobody knows yet.
My guess is that there will not be an official HTC release of it, for the same reason as there hasn't been any official WM6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD - WM7 is due to launch at about the same time as the successor to the HD2 (Q4 this year), and allowing HD2 users to upgrade easily to WM7 would cannibalise sales of the HD3 (or whatever it's called); HTC would obviously prefer people who want to upgrade to WM7 to buy a new HTC phone to do it.
I've no doubt that attempts will be made by the ROM "chefs" on this site to produce "cooked" ROMs for the HD2 based on WM7. However, this may be a much tricker proposition than, say, producing a WM6.5 ROM for a Touch HD, as WM7 is based on an entirely different Operating System kernel and uses a new driver model. That means that unless there is some reference device which uses exactly the same hardware as the HD2 and runs WM7 and whose drivers the ROM chefs can pirate, it's not going to work.
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
If you're asking if the touch 2 will be able to run windows phone 7 OS then almost certainly not, sorry
The real question is, would you want to? apart from being nice to look at, WP7 is very limited.
Not almost certanly, its 100 000 % sure
I know, I was being a little too kind.
Like I said, for me, the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to wp7, only the new ui is improved. and the xbox live integration.
Keep in mind guys that you can not run any existing application on WM7 (change of operating system)....requires new development of all software.....
Not sure if I want WM7.....untill enough freeware is available.....
WindCZ said:
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Yeah! M$ is only to make Dollars . Thats why I trust xda more than M$ or even HTC .
If it was to M$, I would have never been able to run WM 6.5 on my Vox .
So, let us keep our fingers crossed .
But when it comes to port another OS to the Touch2, won't be Windows Mobile 7 easier than Android ?
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too many negative assholes.
take the downer comments
somewhere else, thanks.
To be honest, I've never witnessed the "good old days" of Windows CE, but I think it'll be tough to get it completely working on the HD2.
Also, if we actually would succeed in porting this old version to this handset, I think we'd actually brick the solidness of the OS.. just by "pluggin in" new drivers etc.
I like the idea myself but personally, I see more potential in a Linux distro, for the HD2. For as far that's possible
Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/could-menlo-signal-a-change-in-microsofts-mobile-strategy/6077
Already is...
Windows Mobile 5 & 6 are already based on Windows CE5, with customization for phones. Windows Phone 7 is partially based on a Win CE 6 core, I believe, again with optimizations for phone use. So... your question is moot.
ikovac said:
Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/could-menlo-signal-a-change-in-microsofts-mobile-strategy/6077
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NT Kernel = x86
meaning not arm compatible.
some days ago i read microsoft finished new windows ce based on win7. maybe that would be an interesting port. the old windows ce is ****ty i find
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To be honest, I've never witnessed the "good old days" of Windows CE, but I think it'll be tough to get it completely working on the HD2.
Also, if we actually would succeed in porting this old version to this handset, I think we'd actually brick the solidness of the OS.. just by "pluggin in" new drivers etc.
I like the idea myself but personally, I see more potential in a Linux distro, for the HD2. For as far that's possible
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seeing linux distro would be quite a sight, i will admit.
and yes, you're right about the solidity of the OS after plugging in drivers to fix for the speakers, screen, wifi, BT, etc..
could prove to be quite a messy situation. D:
i suppose the "solidity" i experienced was simply because the devices this OS came on were simply built for CE..
can't much built CE for the HD2 now, can we..? -.-
ikovac said:
Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
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that's a hell of an idea right there, ikovac!
besides the harsh comments after the blog, that post has potential.
but the only problem is the x86 compatibility..
if someone could figure out a bridge between x86 and ARM builds, they'd be revolutionary!
but imagine the stability there.. fail. -.-
lungjian said:
Windows Mobile 5 & 6 are already based on Windows CE5, with customization for phones. Windows Phone 7 is partially based on a Win CE 6 core, I believe, again with optimizations for phone use. So... your question is moot.
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hate to break ya, but without severe porting, win7 won't hit the hd2. for ridiculous reasoning.
sure, it'll make it around the bend somehow, but seemingly, microsoft never wants win7 to see the hd2.
this is why i hate apple. because they control their products so carefully. please, microsoft.. don't be like apple.. D:
you know...this thing ACTAULLY has the minimum specs to run Windows 7 if you look SOLELY at numbers.
1ghz processor
16gb drive space(17 if you include the ROM space)
512mb memory
Wait....we SHOULD be trying to get XP running on this puppy LOLOL!!!!
Ultimaex said:
NT Kernel = x86
meaning not arm compatible.
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That is quite wrong. NT kernel is on itself architecture independent and was actually written for MIPS first and ported to x86 later on. NT 3.5 ran on x86, MIPS, Alpha and PowerPC and IIRC there were some beta builds for the SPARC.
Current NT kernel works on x86, x86-64 (it is not the same as x86) and IA64.
Will you wanna use Windows 3.1 with Dos 6.22 now????
ijoshv2 said:
that's a hell of an idea right there, ikovac!
besides the harsh comments after the blog, that post has potential.
but the only problem is the x86 compatibility..
if someone could figure out a bridge between x86 and ARM builds, they'd be revolutionary!
but imagine the stability there.. fail. -.-
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I think they are already porting NT kernel to ARM. I guess BSOD will look the same, right?
Bumping with a new goal!
Mkay guys, i'm bumping the thread because there should be more ideas than this going on. >.<
so, i want everyone to post thread urls to other sites that are working, in the progress, close to being done, or already been done, that relate to running OS's other than winmo6.5 on the HD2.
so please, devs and geeks alike.
show us the urls!
ijoshv2 said:
Mkay guys, i'm bumping the thread because there should be more ideas than this going on. >.<
so, i want everyone to post thread urls to other sites that are working, in the progress, close to being done, or already been done, that relate to running OS's other than winmo6.5 on the HD2.
so please, devs and geeks alike.
show us the urls!
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+1 on URLs!
About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
OrionBG said:
About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
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even if that was possible,,, there is no application development anymore on such platforms.
To use the 10% of the device for an old obsolete OS, then the rest 90% is what?
i find it completely useless. A linux port would be great.
OrionBG said:
About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
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this is quite interesting, and while it is true that it is a weak OS on a powerful phone, it's worth looking at, honestly..
post a url? =]
g30rg10u said:
even if that was possible,,, there is no application development anymore on such platforms.
To use the 10% of the device for an old obsolete OS, then the rest 90% is what?
i find it completely useless. A linux port would be great.
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yes, a linux port would be amazing.
but i've figured out why android won't be running on the htc hd2 for a while. (note: it WILL run, just not right now.. :b)
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
then, shorty after, they will port the linux coded bootloader for the snapdragon on the hd2, and bam. instant hd2 amazingness.
see, i just wanna see ANYTHING but winmo 6.5 on this thing. i like winmo, honestly i do, but i also like having options.. :b
and thus, the struggle for the bootloader continues. xD
ijoshv2 said:
this is quite interesting, and while it is true that it is a weak OS on a powerful phone, it's worth looking at, honestly..
post a url? =]
yes, a linux port would be amazing.
but i've figured out why android won't be running on the htc hd2 for a while. (note: it WILL run, just not right now.. :b)
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
then, shorty after, they will port the linux coded bootloader for the snapdragon on the hd2, and bam. instant hd2 amazingness.
see, i just wanna see ANYTHING but winmo 6.5 on this thing. i like winmo, honestly i do, but i also like having options.. :b
and thus, the struggle for the bootloader continues. xD
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Snapdragon is not the whole thing(while EVO has been out since last week and sold on eBay?)
Work in process./
And I agree with you, that I love WIN6.5 or 6.1 but option is a good thing.
Found something! :d
check this out, guys.
i found a thread for running windows 95/95 on the HD2. =]
now, i'm thinking if they can start with the older systems, why not be able to progress up to winXP or, outlandishly, windows 7?
check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637889
ijoshv2 said:
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
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Nexus One is using a snapdragon cpu and that phone has been out for almost half a year now.