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Hey guys,
I'm a little curious but, if you're still using your FIRST X1 (Not exchanged, repaired, etc) and it has no build issues (cracks) at all, could you please sign in here?
Despite the prices dropping on Amazon.com (From 799 to 615 USD in less than two weeks), I'm still very curious as to how prevalent this issue really is. So please, show me the light!
Cheers.
i got a crack-free x1 bought in denmark, importet from UK.
a week 48.
QuintusDK said:
i got a crack-free x1 bought in denmark, importet from UK.
a week 48.
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Quintus,
If you don't mind me asking, how old is it?
Cheers.
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Quintus,
If you don't mind me asking, how old is it?
Cheers.
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i have used it in about a month now, and bought it used, so a little over a month.
bought it onthe first sunday of feb. dun rememebr date, unlocked, no problems. production date 08w49
Bought mine in November in the UK .. not long after it was released .. nothing wrong with it ..
Mine is crack free...but the battery cover got lots of scratches.
bought x1a from sonystyle.com in November. Still good.
I'm currently still using my first X1 But not for long anymore. Mine will go into repair tomorrow (just finished reverting it back to stock ROM & SPL). I have a crack at the stylus (I could somewhat live with it as it wans't that bad), and since the end of this week a crack at the batterycomponent (which is no longer acceptable).
I noted all the information I could retrieve from the phone (Serial numbers, IMEI, etc) and marked the Micro SD slot with a pen, as that will allow me to easily recognize if I get a new one or that they will simply put a new back cover on my current one
Still using my first Xperia, got it November of last year ..thinking about getting it replaced though 'cause the keyboard's bugging out one me...
Guys,
Thank you for all the information thus far, please, keep em coming!
Cheers.
I bought black X1i used, it's from December I think. When I got it, the keypad already peeled of sporadically and some very very very minor scratches on the battery cover and the edge near the mic hole... But no crack... And judging from the previous owner, he probably a very careful and tidy person... Just taking a wild guess because the X1 have 2 screen protectors.
The keypad peeling off issue is very very minor to me, in fact, I'm in the process of completely peeling off the keypad outer covering myself. I already completely peeled off the leftward keypad and it really is much better without the coating.
If (knock on wood) the crack issue doesn't rear its ugly head on my X1i, I'll probably replace the casing sometimes in the future, when true wear and tear came up... But for now, quite satisfied, considering how cheap I bought it
im still using my first X1. some scratches on the side due to my recklessness.
thinking of sending to repair cos some keys are getting harder to press. slowing down my typing speed...
Got mine since Nov 08, scratch free, crack free, no problems at all. I'm just lovin it. Production - 08w46.....
Had mine since Nov 08, scratch free, crack free. I take the batter cover off all the time messing with roms and still no problems. I do use a PD air case. Production - 08w45
pretty sure its a UK version.
had mine since 1 mth ago, accidently threw my keys and phone into the same pocket... now a bit of the plastic from the dpad is scratched off... its like mona lisa with a massive pimple ><'' and some minor scratches on the battery cover... apart from that, no cracks, 08wk49 one
I'm also still using my first Xperia, and have had no problems whatsoever.
Go for it
I've had more than one silver Xperias to date
No problems so far
But reading other's stories now I undersand why SONY broke up with HTC...
("quality issues" they stated, and 1/3 of the forum seems to proove it)
gtrab said:
I've had more than one silver Xperias to date
No problems so far
But reading other's stories now I undersand why SONY broke up with HTC...
("quality issues" they stated, and 1/3 of the forum seems to proove it)
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gtrab,
Aye. From the looks of it, purchasing an Xperia will land me a 30%+ chance of obtaining a crack within a month. Considering the fact that the Xperia I intend to purchase is unlocked and without a contract, the costs of repairs will likely not be covered. One way or the other, I foresee SE giving me the big turnaround when it happens.
The risks are so high and the chances so slim to even find a problem-free Xperia. I'll give it a couple more days and see how the votes go. Maybe it'll change.
Cheers.
i bough an x1 from UK first week in november,so 3months old and some days,and i only have a crack where battery is.on the side.it is not anoying.otherwise it is ok,no marks and cracks.i have black xperia,week 48.
I'm on my 4th Hero now. This one has hot pixels. There's quite a number of them, probably more than my initial estimate of 15.
This gets convoluted now so bear with me. Of those pixels I would say that I see about 6 of them when watching tv in bed at night with my glasses off when the screen is displaying very dark colours. I'm pretty short sighted and put the phone really close to my face to watch stuff. In normal day to day use I don't see them. I might even have difficulty showing you anything but the two worst ones. Even those would require me to bring up a black screen to contrast with. And they're not in the middle of the screen.
Despite these pixels, of the 4 Hero's I've had this is the best one I've had. My last one had a bigger pixel problem, while there were fewer problem pixels they were more noticeable and right in the middle of the screen.
I contacted HTC about it by email and they said to contact them about a repair. I rang them just now to ask about it and the guy on the phone said they could not guarantee no hot pixels after repair and that he thought the best thing to do was get another replacement, he also said that he thought I'd probably get a refurbished phone as opposed to mine being fixed if HTC did it. He said that a new phone is always the best option.
If I could go to a store and swap it then that would be great. But I can't and Orange insist on couriering me a phone over. This means I can't check the phone before giving my old one back. I tried to do this last time and the courier flat out refused to give me the replacement before I had given him the old one. Apparently he had someone take the new phone and then slam the door in his face, meaning they had both phones!
Anyway, If I knew I'd get a better phone, I'd be happy to go for either replacement by Orange or repair by HTC. As it is I feel that the odds are stacked against me (this is my 4th, remember) and that I should maybe just be accepting of what I've got.
For anyone who'd bullishly just demand a replacement until they got a perfect phone I'd suggest that you consider that Orange aren't going to keep replacing the phone and that HTC's man said that they wouldn't guarantee a defect free phone. This could go on forever. Looking at this forum it seems that there are enough hardware problems for my problem to be relatively insignificant. Everything else is fine.
So yeah, what would you do? To sum up: Minor persistent annoyance vs potential for greater annoyance.
If it has that many dead pixels then its past what they (HTC) consider acceptable in their policy. In that case it is 'faulty'.
You should really be thinking of it like 'why on earth do you keep giving me faulty phones, get this sorted because i'm getting fed up with this' instead of 'err sorry could i please have another replacement'. Its their fault not yours!
The only down side to another replacement, like you say, is that it may have other problems they dont consider a fault. In any case since you got it online (right?), worst case you could just send the whole lot back and start again with another carrier.
Personally if i had issues like that with a phone, it would bug the hell out of me every time i noticed them, and i'd be kicking myself for not returning it.
15 dead pixels on such a low resolution screen is pretty rediculous. I'm begining to wonder if they are using cheap screens or something,
Can't find any pixel issues on mine. And would have it replaced if there were
, as I did with the Tocco a year ago.
Bought mine straight from HTC though.
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If it has that many dead pixels then its past what they (HTC) consider acceptable in their policy. In that case it is 'faulty'.
You should really be thinking of it like 'why on earth do you keep giving me faulty phones, get this sorted because i'm getting fed up with this' instead of 'err sorry could i please have another replacement'. Its their fault not yours!
The only down side to another replacement, like you say, is that it may have other problems they dont consider a fault. In any case since you got it online (right?), worst case you could just send the whole lot back and start again with another carrier.
Personally if i had issues like that with a phone, it would bug the hell out of me every time i noticed them, and i'd be kicking myself for not returning it.
15 dead pixels on such a low resolution screen is pretty rediculous. I'm begining to wonder if they are using cheap screens or something,
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Yeah, I agree man, I think I've got a right to a phone that works properly. However the practicality of it all is that I might not be able to get one. I can't get out of the contract now (7 days is all the time you get) and for the reasons stated earlier it might not be the best decision to chance a worse phone. I'm really in two minds about this but I'm just not sure how many good ones there are out there and how many bad ones there are.
Well... Number five is due tomorrow. Pray for me guys.
Hero number 4 from Mobliefun is due this week and in the interim I have ordered another from Devicewire. I'll have 2 to choose from, so I'll end up sending back either, or both.
Shame I have to go to these lengths just to get a defect free device but to these lengths I shall go.
Dead pixels
Every brand as a dead pixels policy. What HTC's? Some other member posted it at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2909106
a) three dead pixels anywhere on the screen or
b) two continuous dead pixels
If that's the case, you just need to send the phone back and get a new one. If it takes the 6th phone...just ask for a refund and buy it elsewhere. This reminds me of my 1st HDD I bought...the store replaced it for 5 times only to find out that the entire box was filled with damaged HDD's.
What I want to know is what exactly is the problem with the manufacturing process on these handsets? If you get a good one, it's amazing but how few and far between are they?
Dead pixels, gaps etc... you shouldn't be getting that on a high end device.
The last time I had problems like this was dust under the screen on my SE P800!
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Yeah, I agree man, I think I've got a right to a phone that works properly. However the practicality of it all is that I might not be able to get one. I can't get out of the contract now (7 days is all the time you get) and for the reasons stated earlier it might not be the best decision to chance a worse phone. I'm really in two minds about this but I'm just not sure how many good ones there are out there and how many bad ones there are.
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The whole transaction is for the contract AND phone. Efectively you have not received a working phone yet. They have replaced it and replaced it. The 7 days deadline doesnt really apply here. The goods they supplied were faulty and you have full legal rights to ask for a replacement, use your waranty, or ask for a total refund for upto 2 years in fact in the EU.. and 6 years in the UK.
The crucial point is the goods were defective at the point of sale.
I'm fairly certain that the contract doesn't include the handset which is why the people who recently got out of their Orange contracts early didn't have to return their handsets. Thanks all the same though.
It definitely is. The people who got out of their contract took advantage of the terms and conditions/law regarding contracts, and the changing/breach of that contract.
Yeah it definatly includes the handset.
The reason they were allowed to keep their handset was because of the terms of the contract. It was set that way because after purchase the handset belongs to you regardless of the contract term. Its legally dificult for them to tie the contract month by month to the handset because then it would become a kind of lease/purchase asset. This is also the reason why you can request a FREE unlock code after the first x months. The fee is just an admin charge, they're not actually alowed to charge you for the unlock code itself.
Anyway I'm not saying you _should_ send it all back, but that you _can_ if you want to.
It must be a faulty batch. I have only ever had 1 dead pixel on an HTC phone before, the original I-Mate Jam, and Expansys sent me a replacement immediately I mentioned it.
I got my second Hero yesterday (dropped my first in a coffee, dont ask..) and thankfully both of them were defect free. White, unbranded, no screen gap, build quality or LED issues.
Of course, I got mine as an import here in Hong Kong, so the sourcing batch is likely to be very different from Expanys UK or any UK Telco.
Bottom line as other people have said is that the phone does not work as advertised, it is not defect free. You wouldnt accept a new car or CD Player with a big scratch down the side. This is just the same, except worse, as the screen is not just aesthetics, but an integral part of the experience.
Get it replaced until it is right.
Huge pain, I know, and so frustrating.. I really sympathise.
2 hot pixels, gap above the screen and new for phone number 5: backlight bleed at the edges of the screen.
Go HTC!
Send it back mate. Consider buying outright or switching provider at least, that batch is goosed for sure.
I'm awaiting my 4th, should be here in the next couple hours.
God it makes my issue of a gap in the top of the screen seem rather insignificant! Dude you are having some serious bad look with these handsets. Get on to HTC and kick off.
If any sub standard handsets are making it in to the hands of consumers any company worth its salt should be concerned and by the same token be prepared to do something about it.
It may be worth highlighting the fact that they are receiving some bad press on a very reputable forum within the smartphone community as nothing travels faster than word of mouth!
Just got my 4th. I have 1 hot pixel which actually may be a speck of dust, it's hard to tell., but it's practically invisible. Also have a screen gap- the tiny variety which isn't noticeable until you get a bright light reflecting off that copper component at the right angle.
Still not perfect but I'll wait and see what the other one I'm waiting for is like. I'll keep the best one. I'm starting to wonder if almost the whole UK batch is dodgy...
To those who have perfect (white sim-free) handsets please tell me where you got them?
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God it makes my issue of a gap in the top of the screen seem rather insignificant! Dude you are having some serious bad look with these handsets. Get on to HTC and kick off.
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I'd love to, anyone know how to address them? There's no point contacting the phone numbers or support addresses on their website as the guys there have no power to do anything but say "why not try resetting your phone? If that doesn't work, return it to Orange or we can repair it for you"
Ha! Now that I examine Hero number 4 in the evening out of bright sunlight, the screen is splattered with dust or stuck pixels. There is also light bleeding out from the screen gap.
Hero number 5 soon...
I'm getting pretty pissed off. What's most annoying is that I'll send back 100 Heros before I settle for a different handset!
How come you guys are on your 4th and 5th handsets? It soley down to the dead pixels? I had 2 and neither had any dead pixels
Just had another update from Handtec which states that shipments they were expecting haven't arrived and all orders will be delayed. I've ordered the black version so aren't expecting to see it until May now, but honestly I'm not that concerned because I'm guessing the reason for the delays are HTC are modifying their QC / MFG processes to overcome the minor issues noted by some early adopters here:
- Bulging plastic
- Small gaps in the gapless construction
- Light leakage
- Stuck pixels (unlikely to be simply QC)
Of course armchair commentators like ourselves can always make assumptions and guesses but it would be logical.
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Just had another update from Handtec which states that shipments they were expecting haven't arrived and all orders will be delayed. I've ordered the black version so aren't expecting to see it until May now, but honestly I'm not that concerned because I'm guessing the reason for the delays are HTC are modifying their QC / MFG processes to overcome the minor issues noted by some early adopters here:
- Bulging plastic
- Small gaps in the gapless construction
- Light leakage
Of course armchair commentators like ourselves can always make assumptions and guesses but it would be logical.
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Hopeful wishing, but in all honesty it is probably more that HTC got more preorders then expected so these other guys (expansys/Handtec/etc) aren't going to see their next batch until later than expected.
well my handset was purchased from phones4u, after my second exchange due to build issues and other things i asked for another. Head office was dealing with the issue and advised me that they no longer had stock of either colour and did not know when they would be getting more...maybe the quality control issues are being addressed?
We can but hope...trouble is its just going to drive buyers over to the s4 thats due in a couple of weeks
I got 2nd one from p4u on Tuesday and its got few very tiny white stuck pixel and one major &easy to visible white stuck pixel, some rough surface, avoidable tiny gap and misalign charger port
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I got 2nd one from p4u on Tuesday and its got few very tiny white stuck pixel and one major &easy to visible white stuck pixel, some rough surface, avoidable tiny gap and misalign charger port
Send from my S3 (HTC one goes for replacement)
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is it enough to make you realize you should have wait till later to exchange it?
this is probably the same batch recycling
onlinejobwork said:
I got 2nd one from p4u on Tuesday and its got few very tiny white stuck pixel and one major &easy to visible white stuck pixel, some rough surface, avoidable tiny gap and misalign charger port
Send from my S3 (HTC one goes for replacement)
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An easy return then.
philask said:
Just had another update from Handtec which states that shipments they were expecting haven't arrived and all orders will be delayed. I've ordered the black version so aren't expecting to see it until May now, but honestly I'm not that concerned because I'm guessing the reason for the delays are HTC are modifying their QC / MFG processes to overcome the minor issues noted by some early adopters here:
- Bulging plastic
- Small gaps in the gapless construction
- Light leakage
- Stuck pixels (unlikely to be simply QC)
Of course armchair commentators like ourselves can always make assumptions and guesses but it would be logical.
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Handtec provide you info only for the black one or for the silver one as well? Do they expect delays in Silver shipments as well?
PS. Maybe the delay has to do with the USA release and not with the quality issues?
Just got my first replacement from phones and its flawless. The serial number indicates is from a newer factory so that's probably why. Feels like a completely different phone than the first. Time to root it as is not going back !
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Just got my first replacement from phones and its flawless. The serial number indicates is from a newer factory so that's probably why. Feels like a completely different phone than the first. Time to root it as is not going back !
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Could you please share the Serial Number? maybe just the first few digits.. Also could you tell in which factory was it manufactured?
Thanks
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Could you please share the Serial Number? maybe just the first few digits.. Also could you tell in which factory was it manufactured?
Thanks
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FA33YW. Dunno if they have identified the FA factory yet, last time I checked the serial number thread it was unknown
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Well the delays won't be down to highstreet sales. In my town the 3 store is advertising S4 (pre order) and some other ****e all over their store front.
P4U have the front of the store plastered with cheap S3 offers, crapple and blackbury with the One placard hidden away in a side alley only used to get to some company account or something along those lines.
Needless to say I was disgusted.
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hamdir said:
is it enough to make you realize you should have wait till later to exchange it?
this is probably the same batch recycling
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My retailer P4u said they have no stock now and next stock will arrive on 23rd I hope wait is worth this time & hope longer it takes for better finishing,
Any batch/serial no. that confirm guaranteed to worry free and flawless or improved production imperfection? has anyone reported yet?
I would say hopefully they fixed the QC. But the delays will continue as the roll it out to other countries. Launches in aus on the 23rd
Hi all,
been having some real fun and games with my htc one. Some things to look out for if you are planning on picking up a new htc one. It took htc over a month to arrange a repair of the device and when it was returned the "crack" between the front fascia had been made smaller but was still present, so its going back yet again (what fun).
The front glass at the top is still not fitted correctly, and the fascia overhangs at one end and underhangs at the other.
When I first got the phone, I did notice the crack, but ignored it.As a few weeks went by I noticed the crack was getting bigger so I decided to return the phone.
I personally think that the body of the device has not been machined properly, so despite HTC attempting to repair, the problem persists. I have requested a replacement phone this time from HTC.
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". As I have had to remind HTC several times, it does not matter if the bootloader is unlocked in the event of a manufacturing defect. This was "escalated" by htc and after 1 month there was still no resolution. I had to remind them of uk consumer law before they eventually undertook the warranty "repair".
the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia
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the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia
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He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
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My glass is high on the top and low on the bottom. It is subtle enough that it doesn't bother me, and it definitely isn't as bad as some of the stories I was hearing before I bought mine.
Well, I didn't have any similar issue to you guys, but my One had a scratch on the back, along with 2 very small notches, plus a very small piece of some tape or something sticking out of the metal to the right of the bottom speaker. I highy doubt it could've come from my pocket as it was completely stuck, so maybe there was a gap. It also had static noise during calls.
Sent it back and waiting for a new one.
(Why didn't you go through your retailer btw? It's much more effective).
My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
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zaphodbeeb said:
My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
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Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.
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Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.
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Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.
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Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.
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Sad to hear that:/
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He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
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i know what he said , in my device its all high than the fascia
My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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Thats what I thought. However, the crack around the phone got much worse so I reported to HTC July 10th. Apart from a dodgy repair from HTC which I will not accept, they have done nothing since JULY 10th with regards this. I am now thinking that my HTC experience is about done as I have lost faith in HTC service, and this awfully made phone. The S4 may be plastic, but I am confident that if it develops a problem it will be repaired/replaced efficiently without the aggravation I am getting from HTC. Really disappointed as I have been a HTC fan since the desire. The amount of my time, and HTC peoples time that has been spent on this must add up to more than the purchase price of the phone.
What I find really galling is that each time I speak to someone in HTC with regards this I have to remind them of their obligations under UK consumer law. By default they look for reasons not to fix the problem. Quite appalling.
They have thanked me for my continued patience with HTC with regards this matter. It seems HTC are on a mission to test the depths of my continued patience. Awful.
I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".
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I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".
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Hi, htc have decided to close my trouble ticket today because it has been escalated to senior management. From previous experience this is bad news as last time they forgot about the issue for a month. They have point blank refused to send me a replacement device, despite the fact that they have failed to act in a reasonable time, or fix the reported defect. I have discussed this with my network operator who have stated that they will need to repair the device up to three times before they can commit to providing a replacement. This is their standard process.
Luckily for me, I used mastercard to purchase and have been advised to make claim, given the defect and the appalling service to date. This will take up to a month, and they can insist on a replacement device.
Under UK legislation, for high ticket items like mobile phones, you have a right for the item to be free from manufacturers defect for a period of up to 6 years from date of purchase. Legislation also means that I have a right to demand a replacement device if reasonable efforts have been made by me to enable the device to be fixed, which I have. I have also been advised that it is not acceptable for a supplier to continually attempt repair.
I will never purchase another HTC product for fear of poor service, and they are just such high maintenance in the event of a problem.
It's shame, because I really like the phone from the day or so I have had to actually use it!
Vodafone have said they will give me a different phone next time if the build quality on No. 3 is still below standard. The only thing is I don't want an iPhone or an S4 at all. I got the HTC One because that was the one I liked.
But yes, I will also not be purchasing an HTC product ever again because of their frankly appalling attitude towards their customers. These days it is not enough to simple build a good product, people expect (rightly so) that any follow-up issues will be dealt with promptly and correctly. HTC do not do this so I'll be voting with my feet next time!
Hi, I also think that the HTC One is a great phone, if only HTC could supply me with one that does not have a manufacturing defect. Their last attempt at repair was not satisfactory, and their customer service is appalling. Yesterday they closed down my outstanding ticket with them as "that this case has now been escalated to higher management". Today I called to find out if there was any progress with this escalation, and to get a target resolution for this escalation, was promised a call back from a manager, but have heard nothing yet. Last time they escalated my issue it took 1 month of nothing, no feedback or progress. I suspect that escalating an issue actually means kicking it into the long grass. Anyhow, perseverance is obviously the nature of the game, and just to make sure, I opened another ticket for them, so they dont forget me again. Anyone would think that they don't have a legal obligation to make sure their products are free from manufacturers defect!
Now booked in for a second attempt at repair.
zaphodbeeb said:
Hi all,
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". (
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Sorry for OT but did they know about the bootloader from their database records (seeing your imei or serial number)? Or they examined the phone?
I told them the bootloader was unlocked. They would have found out anyhow, and in the case of a physical defect, it matters not in law. My understanding is that consumers of "high ticket items" should expect that the product is free from defect for 6 years.
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i've exatly the same problem !
http://www.forum-generationmobiles.net/t71067p15-info-aide-probleme-sav-htc-amazon#1236179 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788414732459 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788389051817 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200747955481003 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/648836941801497 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=xyyIktOgXEykTYbkDGJ9_A&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=gpxUO8lbtDTSZYh8mZ9IOg&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4
lol seriously six years? I mean, we got two years in Germany, i find six a bit unreasonable...is that really UK law?
Both mine and my wife's G3 have developed cracks - both in Quickcircle back replacement cases and never droped or knocked in any way. My crack is accross the mic and my wife's are along the IR blaster and headphone port. Hers is white and mine is black. I will be returning hers tomorrow but am very wary of the response I will get. I suggest anyone look closely now for any signs of this if it is likely to be of concern.
I've heard about some having problems. I think LG knows and won't give you a hard time. I double checked mine and so far so good. Good luck man.
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Both mine and my wife's G3 have developed cracks - both in Quickcircle back replacement cases and never droped or knocked in any way. My crack is accross the mic and my wife's are along the IR blaster and headphone port. Hers is white and mine is black. I will be returning hers tomorrow but am very wary of the response I will get. I suggest anyone look closely now for any signs of this if it is likely to be of concern.
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If that flag is accurate and you live in the UK you have nothing to worry about. Its a fault, pure and simple and you have EU consumer laws on your side.
The question is where did you get it? Some stores are more accommodating than others.
same here
The same happened to me today, I got a crack near microphone and I don't know what to do. I bought this from ebay one week old and as far as I know it's a unlock device with Three branding. I have this phone around one month now and the worst part is that my brother brought it to me from the uk when he came on vacations. I don't believe that if I try to contact LG from my country (Cyprus) I will have the phone replaced. The only thing I can do is send it back to my brother in UK but the phone was bought from ebay so I believe I will have problems requesting for a replacement. I am not sure what I have to do, any suggestions guys?
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ChrisM75 said:
If that flag is accurate and you live in the UK you have nothing to worry about. Its a fault, pure and simple and you have EU consumer laws on your side.
The question is where did you get it? Some stores are more accommodating than others.
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I got my wife's online from carphone warehouse, so hopefully it will be OK. I just hope they don't imply the phone has been mistreated. I am going to take print outs of the many websites discussing this issue to back me up. My phone was from o2, but as it isnt so bad I'm reluctant to return it due to how much I've customised it (rooted etc). At least they haven't bent I suppose!
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Carphone warehouse are scum, but buying it online actually helps. Take a bit of evidence that its common and they really cant complain.
I have the same crack at the mic.
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http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/lg-g3-owners-complain-of-cracking-issues
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I've seen several G3s now with a crack on the ir blaster, I'm sure LG is well aware of this issues already and they should be able to issue a warranty as this IS a manufacturers defect.
No cracks, yet. Dropped it once, with a cheap case on it. No damage.
Steve
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http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/lg-g3-owners-complain-of-cracking-issues
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I am aware of this article, however there is nothing else to confirm that LG have officially acknowledged it and others claim they have been met with denial when speaking to them.
calling you out, bs, this kind of damage is due to lack of care!
"crackgate" what exactly does that refer to, too much crack and dropped your phone near the gate?
homer285 said:
calling you out, bs, this kind of damage is due to lack of care!
"crackgate" what exactly does that refer to, too much crack and dropped your phone near the gate?
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2 phones - one white, one black used by different people. We are pretty boring people that nurture our phones carefully (cases, screen protectors etc). Both phones developing cracks in similar places (along openings) without a single mark or scuff anywhere else. Many other reports as well, all in the same places on the phone. This isn't one of those "my screen has spontaneously shattered" posts, so you are out of line with your comments I'm afraid.
Based upon my own (extremely unscientific) following of this issue. Many of the pictures I've seen of phones with this issue seem to somehow involve the circle case. I do not have one, do not know what sort of pressure the circle case applies to the rest of the phone... However I am not planning on getting one of these cases based upon the number of pictures I've seen with cracks and the case is in the picture (or mentioned by the person posting).
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Based upon my own (extremely unscientific) following of this issue. Many of the pictures I've seen of phones with this issue seem to somehow involve the circle case. I do not have one, do not know what sort of pressure the circle case applies to the rest of the phone... However I am not planning on getting one of these cases based upon the number of pictures I've seen with cracks and the case is in the picture (or mentioned by the person posting).
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This may possibly be the cause as both our phones are in these cases. The replacement back doesn't feel any more tight fitting than the original, however and it is the only way to keep wireless charging. In any case it is an official LG product so they still have to accept responsibility if they are continuing to market them.
Man that sucks. I bought a G3 for my wife and myself and we dont have cracks...yet. I hope it was only a specific batch of these for real and they werent just saying that for good PR. Ive had my phones about 3 weeks now and so far so good. We have cases on too...
Sometimes I feel like I can easily crack the case by opening it if I have to swap sim cards. Now once I get it open at the USB port, I slide a credit card along both sides and it easily undoes the clips.
Its because of this freaking crack issue that i am scared of using the beautiful circle case..
I believe the case exerts a lot of tension/pressure on the outer body of the phone..
homer285 said:
calling you out, bs, this kind of damage is due to lack of care!
"crackgate" what exactly does that refer to, too much crack and dropped your phone near the gate?
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This is and was a known issue. I read about it on multiple sites. WTF are you taking about lack of care...
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This is and was a known issue. I read about it on multiple sites. WTF are you taking about lack of care...
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There's always the one guy who says if I didn't happen to me it couldn't happen to anyone else. I hope you get it replaced as I think it was a defect even though mine is fine so far. Good luck to you and your wife bro.