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htc hero worth the cash?

hey,
I'm currently using lg eve and i'm really interested by htc sense UI and I was wondering is it worth buying since the processor is only 528 MHz plus is the multi touch on the hero similar to the iphone?
-someone might have asked this same question i couldn't find it-(lazy)

lol, i wouldnt have the nexus one ( 1 Ghz) if i could. I love the hero so much, its perfect haha. well, with an update coming in mid february, it will hopefully be perfect;p
id say go for it
and it has capacitive touch screen, so its basically the same sensitivity as the ipodtouch/iphone.
and in browser, 2 finger pinch to zoom, is "almost" as smooth as in the iphone...
if your deciding between iphone/hero... go with the hero, multitasking pwns

No you should get the HTC Legend which is the 2nd gen hero
You can find it here
http://pdadb.net/
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2123&c=htc_legend

Absolutely!
Paid fourhundred euros for my first one which I lost The next day I bought another one for 350.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5392845#post5392845
The sense UI doesn't work for me. I don't need 7 homescreens and it slows my phone down. Pleeaase don't compare it to the iPawn. they're two completely different things. but I should tell you that multitouch is enabled by HTC it soesn't work natively in android 1.5, it only works in the browser and in albums
edit: but after the update to 2.0 it will support multitouch!

in my opinion, no its not worth the money i paid, however i have bought one, and will keep it for a while.
you'd be far better off getting a G1 and flashing it to the latest 2.1 rom.

warsng said:
in my opinion, no its not worth the money i paid, however i have bought one, and will keep it for a while.
you'd be far better off getting a G1 and flashing it to the latest 2.1 rom.
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The G1 is indeed a very nice device my father owns one, I find it a little bit too big, but the sliding keyboard is very, very nice!!

I bought mine, I have to say this phone is awesome! You won't regret it after purchasing it.

finaly decided
well, guys I'm getting the hero tomorrow and thanks for the replies, it really made a difference

I love my hero too... it the best phone i ever had!!
side question to all...
I have loveD each of my phone, when i got it.
Every time we get a new phone, it is an upgrade.
so each time.. it would be for a better phone.
so.. would we not love each new phone.. THE BEST!
lol

ditched lg eve
well, guys i finaly got my hero today and i can't stop playing with it, it's has more potential than my eve.

htc fan89 said:
well, guys i finaly got my hero today and i can't stop playing with it, it's has more potential than my eve.
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Nice one!!
So what do you think about Sense?

before i used to think htc sense made windows mobile more friendly, but after seeing htc sense on android it was mind blowing, its like best of both worlds

after a brief affair with the hd2.....

coming back to the n1.
long story short, had the n1 since release...sold it to get the hd2. after about 6 weeks with the hd2 i'm selling it. ordered my n1 today and it should arrive tomorrow.
hd2 is a nice device but imo doesnt compare overall to the n1.
no real point to this post other than to state it feels good to come back home.

let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol

Mokurex said:
let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol
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pretty much. sense helped alot though

HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.

I had a similar experience, Nexus One then bought the HD2, great hardware, superb device, the problem is Windows Mobile, really bad, so I am back with the Nexus One
Now regarding the EVO, the problem will be Sprint, great device, great OS (Android), not that great service and coverage (no international coverage).
We need an EVO equivalent device with AT&T or Verizon.

i think the 2 areas where the hd2 excelled was screen (however debatable...quality vs quantity) and music (possibly simply for having an eq). just about all other areas i have to give it to the n1.

Mokurex said:
HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.
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I love my Nexus but have seriously been thinking about letting it go for a Evo. That phone seems perfect IMO except for that fact that I will greatly miss the trackball notifications

i currently have both right now and i must say i am using the nexus one more due to the fact that android as an OS has better design, navigation, ease-of-use. However, the HD2 is great for browsing, reading douments, PDF etc..

Had nexus since release, bought hd2 just to sell it a week later. missed it too much and managed to snag a free one which I sold again lol. then here I am with nexus one and another hd2 which I've gotten super cheap. I think I am going to well it for good this time. no matter what I do with it, just doesn't compare to Android. great hardware, screen, design, but win mo is a killer. even with spb mobile I can't get rid of the texting lag with keyboard, maps are users when compared to android, horrid app choice, all apps are ugly. with sense, you literally have to go to your computer to change your wallpaper since the device does not like to size it properly and they come out blurry... with custom roms, you can't just update, have to reset the device every time, meh...

My HD2 makes me feel dirty

Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them

ericm115 said:
Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.
Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.

Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.

bwest411 said:
Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.

ryan562 said:
x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.
WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her
But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it

Thanks for the responses.
I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.
again thanks

Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.
I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.
It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.
Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)

I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.

Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead?

ericm115 said:
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
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Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.
I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.

Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.

htc hd2 trade with htc desire?

Hi everyone
usually when people make new threads about asking questions i think - come on man cant u figure out urself?
but now its my turn to ask ur opinion
So i got the hd2 since january and really i dont have any complain till now but a friend at work wants to trade his desire with my hd2..
Both phones arein same condition and work perfectly..
The question is does it worth to trade it or?
I tried several builds of android on hd2 and i see that i like android alot,
but i think till it can really be ported on our hd2 and work flawlesly we will need a bit more time..
So would you trade or wait..??

malias4 said:
Hi everyone
usually when people make new threads about asking questions i think - come on man cant u figure out urself?
but now its my turn to ask ur opinion
So i got the hd2 since january and really i dont have any complain till now but a friend at work wants to trade his desire with my hd2..
Both phones arein same condition and work perfectly..
The question is does it worth to trade it or?
I tried several builds of android on hd2 and i see that i like android alot,
but i think till it can really be ported on our hd2 and work flawlesly we will need a bit more time..
So would you trade or wait..??
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That's a tough one, I guess it comes down to what you use the phone for. Both phones are nearly identical technically but interestingly the HD2 still costs alot more unlocked.
I've used the Desire a lot and personally I'd probably stick with my HD2. The AMOLED screen on the Desire is great but I just prefer the size and contrast of the HD2's TFT screen.
Tough one though!

Yeah the hard thing is tha size matter!
Im used tpo the big screen now so i dont know if i can handle the one from desire bs its a bit smaller..
I usually use the phone for browsing, emails and a bit of music-movies -gaming..
And also calling , txting

I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.

Why don't you too just swap the phones for a week or something and see how you like the other one. If both of you'll be happy with the new one then that's it. And of cource, if one of you don't like the "new" phone then swap them again. This way both of you will be better informed, no matter what you willl decide in the end.

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Why don't you too just swap the phones for a week or something and see how you like the other one. If both of you'll be happy with the new one then that's it. And of cource, if one of you don't like the "new" phone then swap them again. This way both of you will be better informed, no matter what you willl decide in the end.
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i think this is the best idea, i just feel like i betray my lovely hd2 like this..
i mean if i trade it or sell it

Alkali said:
I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.
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Do you honestly believe the devs here will leave it at "no win7 update", it has the hardware (and two keys extra lol)
On the original post:
I got a great deal around 2 weeks ago and instead of getting a desire for 300ish eur on contract, got a HD2 for 160e
Best choice I ever made, screen size does matter
I'd keep the HD2 for its pure awesomeness and the 90% chance of getting a 7 phone for "free".
edit: also from what i've seen with my short encounters with android, it still has a bit to go no matter how good. Your hd2 is good till android 3 and phone 7 with their respective phones become available, wait it out on the phone change

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I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.
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cant say I agree with that, loads of old devices still have a thriving community, why wouldn't the hd2??
theres going to be plenty ofpeople with no interest in either wp7 or android....
this phones going to around for a while.......
to answer your question, I wouldn't swap.....

i wouldnt swap my hd2 for desire. i bought a legend over the desire because i already have an hd2 with its huge 4.3". its screen size is enormous and it has the processor to handle wp7 if ever it comes out. plus the hd2 has editor in office. in my opinion, i will keep the hd2.

Won't hesitate!!
I definitely would keep HD2!!!
Nothing compares with this beautifully designed massive screen!!

HD2 no doubts just have a look at ugly desire design and small screen don't even think i don't see any phone on the market which can beat Leo at this time...

I don't se the need to replace your HD2 with Desire since we can already run Android on our HD2's. Unless you don't want to use WinMo again.

yea we can run android but not 100% functionable, and thats true!
also i have a data plan wiv unlimited internet so if i boot in android the speed is crappy etc..
hopefully soon the devs can solve al the issues n it will be better..

keep the hd2. android ime is perfecrly usable on a daily basis. i find it just as fast if not faster than win mobile. battery life is same nd network speeds great. yes there are still annoying bugs. but so does win mobile. the sheer amount of apps and stuff u can do outweighs the bugs massively. plus ot only takes a few mintues to get back to win mobile.

malias4 said:
yea we can run android but not 100% functionable, and thats true!
also i have a data plan wiv unlimited internet so if i boot in android the speed is crappy etc..
hopefully soon the devs can solve al the issues n it will be better..
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the latest released kernals are very fast with no lag it is even faster than the desire , and remember desire don't have proper multitouch like what our hd2 have (don't believe me try multitouch apps from the market ) and with respect to the functionality the only missing thing now is the light sensor and wifi theatering and i think within two weeks we will have a fully functional kernal

Thanks guys for your replies, im convinced now..
just have to be a little patient i think till android will be 100 percent flashable..
Till then i ll enjoy the dual boot and the massive screen

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

evilwise said:
Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
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The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

AntonJart said:
I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!