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Nintendo DS Emulation

So this may have been asked before, but does anyone know if there is a DS emulator for windows mobile devices, or whether somebody out there is working on one?
I mean I don't know **** about emulation, but it makes sense to me given that both are touchcreen devices and a lot of pocketpcs are pretty powerful these days.

Sorry to say this, but forget it, you'll never get a decent NDS emulator on PPC... Most NDS emulators on PC don't run at fullspeed when using 3D, and that's for homebrew, so on PocketPC... Not likely...

Yep, what Mollusk said is true. Let's also remember that the DS has two screens, and if you'd like to split your already small PPC screen into two, it won't be fun.

Depends on the size and resolution you have I guess - splitting it might not be that impossible after all. But on the performance end there is no light in sight of course. We don't even have full speed GBA emulation (with sound) and so it's probably highly unlikely to ever see something usable for the DS. The only straw is that both the DS and PPC use ARM CPUs and there *might* be a way to use this somehow just like with FPSEce.

The problem wouldn't be the ARM CPU, but the 2D and 3D GPU... Maybe we could have an emulator in text mode ^^
As for splitting the screen, that wouldn't be an issue either. I ported a few of my DS games to PocketPC and just did some minor resizing.
DS total screen size : 256x384
PocketPC standard size : 240x320
It's not perfect, but close enough (with a little cropping ^^)
Anyways, won't work

damn i was really look on finding the emulator for the NDS, but i finally stopped on this thread, lol saved me some trouble on continuing my search for the NDS

Just wait 2 or 3 years..i bet our phones are gonna be capable of doing this.

suure, with qualcomm ****, yeah lol.
dream on, htc users, dream on..
ds emu as plugin for manila 9d(with iphone icons to be cool, of course).
sry to say that, but sometimes you are ridiculous, guys.

nothin said:
suure, with qualcomm ****, yeah lol.
dream on, htc users, dream on..
ds emu as plugin for manila 9d(with iphone icons to be cool, of course).
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Since you know how to read the future..how is it gonna be like in 2015?

there will be NO electricity, power lines, etc. in 2015, so..
(hheh..)
it will be "GO" and chess era.
again.

Another little problem you will have to deal with.:-
A DS is actually driven by two ARM processors, running at 66Mhz and 33Mhz respectively. Not particularly fast by PPC standards, but usually they drive one screen each, and talk to each other to keep the game flowing along correctly. Most PDA phones also have two ARM processors, but one is driving the phone subsystem and is strictly off limits, you can't get at it.
As mentioned above, the killer is the 2D/3D graphics hardware they have access to, to do all the drawing gruntwork. Even a PPC ARM processor running 10 times faster than those on the DS is going to struggle emulating all that lot.

Well there is already a phone with a 1ghz processor so maybe it's not too far off?

buru898 said:
Well there is already a phone with a 1ghz processor so maybe it's not too far off?
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do not let 'em fool you.
they reversed whole ppc evolution progress to make CASH, don't YOU understand or what....
please, think, 'bout it, do not FLAME me, plz.
vide Dell Axim x50/51v - 6 yr old machine.
They cared bout drivers, and power.
Then someone realized, that state was given TOO FaST to earn money.
And HTC became ruler of market.
It is ok, if you HAVE cash for ****...probably you do..

maybe a device with a good chunk of ram and a tegra chipset
i imagine this would open up a whole new world of emulation. solid ps1, maybe n64 as well?
my only worry is the loss of d-pad on the tp2, and the ****ty dpad on the tp1, makes for a poor user experience when trying to jump and you hit home by accident I dread to wonder what the 2010 devices will be missing. No qwerty devices any more?

only prob for multi touch.
GBA works perfect in 200 mhz cpu.
128 mb ram 667 mhz cpu and 2d 3d drivers have xcale.
tray ideas source code.

mancukya said:
only prob for multi touch.
GBA works perfect in 200 mhz cpu.
128 mb ram 667 mhz cpu and 2d 3d drivers have xcale.
tray ideas source code.
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gba on 200 mhz?? could you tell us , which emu can do this??
upd: you mean 200 mhz x86?

mancukya said:
only prob for multi touch.
GBA works perfect in 200 mhz cpu.
128 mb ram 667 mhz cpu and 2d 3d drivers have xcale.
tray ideas source code.
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doesnt have to be entirely touch tho, mapping the volume rocker and using the dpad, the screen could be utilized for one-at-a-time buttons. like picodrive for genesis uses dpad with a/b/c buttons onscreen. these buttons are never used simultaneously anyway

so ppc can fast emulate ps1 and it cant emulate that ****ing noobly nds??????????? .....WTF?......

if there is other way to play gta china wars on my omnia replay to me

marko.gangsta said:
if there is other way to play gta china wars on my omnia replay to me
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You can play psp games on your ppc you know that right?

[IDEA] Pokemon for Diamond?

Hi there
I just downloaded a emulator of the nintendo DS. Right now i'm playing Pokemon on my computer
So my question is: can a interested developer work on a emulator or something for the Diamond, so we could play games like pokemon etc.?
Anyone interested?

Google morphgear... don't think it has DS funcionality but I used to use it all the time on my Tilt

The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.

I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.

kosherpig said:
The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.
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And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way !
If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)

Blaumes said:
I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.
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I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?
Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?
Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing...

nuke1 said:
And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way !
If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)
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From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:
Windows: PIII 500Mhz machine for GBA emulation.
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GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?

Here's a great emulator I use on my Diamond, its MorphGear. You can play SNES, GB, GBA, NES, GameGear and SMS games on it. It requires you to pay a bit for some features(not sure what, never had the trial version for long) unless you're a pirate, but its well worth it.
Code:
http://www.spicypixel.com/web/page/morphgear/Download.aspx

Sleehond said:
I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?
Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?
Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing...
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The bottom of the screen is working as buttons. But for me there should be an image there showing the buttons but it doesnt. dont know why.

kosherpig said:
From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:
GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?
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Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine. The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.
I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.
Back to question, you can use any emulator for PPC that plays GBA games like morphgear, but some of them require a gba BIOS which I can't post the link to but if you google gba_bios.bin you should find it pretty easily. also I cant post any ROMs but any regular .gba file will work

just use an emulator like the ones listed above or get the game boy color versions of the game

i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat

In regards to the keys need a remaperer such as AEG

earni said:
i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat
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Hey, you want to share your savefile? I played like 2 hours and then I was on my way to settings and I missclicked. I clicked reset

talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out
http://www.bashbosh.com/gameboy-advance-emulator-for-pocket-pc/
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sammypwns said:
Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine.
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a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuires
gigahertz computer
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(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.
sammypwns said:
The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.
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Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?
sammypwns said:
I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.
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If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.

Hojlind said:
talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out
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I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps?

lattiS710 said:
I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps?
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no clue i just got home and tried it out and it wont even install on my diamond so i cant help you there

kosherpig said:
a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuires(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.
Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?
If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.
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yes i do know that nintendo did just incorporate the gbc processor onto the mb of the gba. however the ds does not have that so it virtualizes the gba/gbc environment, and the ds does this at full speed with a very weak processor. emulation takes way more resources but any pc with a graphics card, even an intel gma, can run gba games at full speed. are you using the gba bios? try VBA on your pc and let me know how fast it plays? I pointed out the the iPhone can run GBA games at full speed with gpsphone so wy can't the diamond, which has a dedicated video card, albeit slightly slower processor?

looking at this thread made me install morphgear and i also registered some of the freatures and so forth .. well anyway.. just to say, what the horse... GBA is not running smooth... it's not even running on original speed... well it does come down to developement.. the specs of the phone is good enough for GBA i guess.. well GBC works perfect.. haven't tried other types of emul, on morphgear... well i really wanted to play pokemon emerald but no way, i can't because the emulator is to slow for me to be patient to finish it... i have a Raphael BTW.. well from being a symbian user in many years and coming from a nokia n95 phone which does emulate GBA games perfect and more than perfect, this kinda dissappoints me but i'm not going to cry as i remember when the first beta for emulating GBA on symbian was way slow.. well even my nokia n70 runned GBA in a over perfect speed... well it all comes down to developement..
as for NDS, it is possible but nothing we can expect to come fast at this moment.. we might want to wait and see,...

Android on T3238+ clone

Hi everybody,
is it possible to install Android on my T3238+ clone running WM:
These are the specs:
CPU Marvell PXA300 624MHz
ROM 256 MB
RAM 128 MB
Display 240x320 QVGA 65536 colors
Bluetooth 2.0
WI-FI B/G
Internal GPS
The hw is mostly the same as the Sciphone N19/N21
I've also seen that there is a dual boot application to choose which OS boot.
Waiting some response...
Thanks in advance

m4dbra1n said:
Hi everybody,
is it possible to install Android on my T3238+ clone running WM:
These are the specs:
CPU Marvell PXA300 624MHz
ROM 256 MB
RAM 128 MB
Display 240x320 QVGA 65536 colors
Bluetooth 2.0
WI-FI B/G
Internal GPS
The hw is mostly the same as the Sciphone N19/N21
I've also seen that there is a dual boot application to choose which OS boot.
Waiting some response...
Thanks in advance
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Not yet, coz each design house uses different LCD/Camera/TP...etc... Andriod will not work even on a very small change! I am quite familiar with 3238+, I will try to post it if they have the tool and image ready!

hakkinen60 said:
Not yet, coz each design house uses different LCD/Camera/TP...etc... Andriod will not work even on a very small change! I am quite familiar with 3238+, I will try to post it if they have the tool and image ready!
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Thanks a lot, I'll stay tuned

m4dbra1n said:
Thanks a lot, I'll stay tuned
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Got some not so good news for u! I asked the guy who assembly the T3238+ yesterday, and he told me that unless he got an order for more than 1000pcs....otherwise he won't spend effort to make it work on 3238+. There will be a lot of new models comming out after CNY(Chinese new year), and price will be around USD120-140. Keep u inform then! Right now there is a clone(1:1) HERO that runs on WM6.5 and track ball. The tooling is really nice....and more important is that I can provide u technical support on this model...... lol Cheers!

Hero clone
How can I buy one of the Hero clones from you?

Windows phone 8

Hello Guys what do you think about the new Version of WP ...
Do you think it is Possible on our HD² ?
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OMG you just kill my eyes, who can this be possible

Hello Guys what do you think about my awesome choice of colour
do you think you will be able to see ever again!!

just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.

My hd2
ayopancheezy said:
just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.
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We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best

after some research and some articles i have read today.
there's no chance to run WP8 on HD2. maybe we can get 7.8

as blackinaction said, the same was claimed for WP7 and we do have it now on our HD2. No one can be sure that we will not have WP8 also.

We'll see what cotulla say about wp8 on HD2 when first rom would be released.
btw MAGLDR 2.0 will be released soon.

i hope the HD2 sees the light of WP8. I hope there are more apps and everything.

I wouldn't hold my breath on further development on the HD2 beyond 7.8. Besides a handful of cooks development has come to a halt.

I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !

Nixeus said:
I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !
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Long live HD2, Windows Phone 8 will be here, let's pray

of course GOD cotulla will bring WP8 to HD2.:good:

Must...have!

will release today

Hardware limitations is the only factor that would prevent us from having wp8 on the hd2 but the chefs never cease to amaze me..
Long live the hd2 and prosper!:highfive:

blackinaction said:
We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best
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Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!

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Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!
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I agree
I heard that HTC will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.

Mehrdad201 said:
I agree
I heard that HD2 will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.
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Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.

ctito said:
Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.
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I tested WP7.5 and also Android on my HD2
in my idea, heat is significantly more when I am running Android.
and HD2 has 576 MB of ram.
And finally we have to wait for the future news.....

Microsoft Flight Simulator X running on stock HTC Shift

For kicks and giggles, I installed Microsoft Flight Simulator X (Steam edition) on my stock HTC Shift (800Hz CPU, 1GB RAM), running Windows 10 (latest version, all updates).
Anyone want to see the videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfiROwewAqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5ljoUZfLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU33DvEMZAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RitYgIhXz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFo_HRYsILw&t=98s
I disabled some Windows Services such as Windows Search and Superfetch, and tweaked some Windows Settings to reduce CPU load. I only did the basics, there's probably a ton of other services that I could have disabled, but I was satisfied enough with the results.
I had to install the Sherry graphics driver to get Flight Simulator X to run. FSX doesn't have a resolution as low as 800 x 480, so I had to run the game at 1024 x 724.
I'm amazed it runs!

I also tried out Half Life 2 Episode 2 on the stock HTC Shift. It didn't run particular well, even after tweaking the autoexec.cfg file of the game. Just goes to show what an achievement Flight Simulator X is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKvW2yIcNJI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sge9Lg__BTY&t=21s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YljPFTGMckU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BvLueyhOmM

Thats amazing Flanimal!
Not sure if you remember talking with me about ten years ago about the Shift (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565916). I never did get one in the end , but I did a lot of research and I created the HTC SHIFT Library:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4774852#post4774852
Tell me, do you have the 2GB RAM in yours?

vinokirk said:
Thats amazing Flanimal!
Not sure if you remember talking with me about ten years ago about the Shift (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565916). I never did get one in the end , but I did a lot of research and I created the HTC SHIFT Library:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4774852#post4774852
Tell me, do you have the 2GB RAM in yours?
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I certainly remember you for the HTC Shift library - what a contribution to the Shift community that is!
My Shift's still running on its stock 1Gb RAM, and it's on this Shift that I ran FSX and Half Life.