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Booting very slowly. Any advice...?

I have the Black 2.0 an Radio 1.40 and Oli 1.40, and I installed "MenMaid" and the SPV M3100 boots very slowly 8-10 minutes, and then it works the same, 2 days ago I had the same problem with MENMAID, and uninstalled and made several soft reset and extract the battery at the end it works well like allways, but now I made the same but it very slowly.
Please Could you tell me any advise?
Thanks.

what does this program do? have you tried it on any other ROMS?

I presume you mean Memmaid? I don't use it but it cleans out memory, notifications etc etc. I'm just wondering if it has a setting to auto clear memory or do some sort of clean up on bootup. If it does, perhaps you need to uncheck that setting?? (Only guessing!)
Mike

peezy said:
what does this program do? have you tried it on any other ROMS?
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Sorry the program name is Memmaid, like say Mikechannon. Is allow to clear the memory, registry etc. is like Sktools but I thing less powerful.
I didn´t try with other roms, because I have few time, and I haven´t got any time to recharge and configure all software, althougt at the end I will have to do.
mikechannon said:
I presume you mean Memmaid? I don't use it but it cleans out memory, notifications etc etc. I'm just wondering if it has a setting to auto clear memory or do some sort of clean up on bootup. If it does, perhaps you need to uncheck that setting?? (Only guessing!)
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Yes, you at right, is Memmaid. Is posible that has this funcion (cleun up on bootup), but I uninstalled, This haven´t got to happen. No?
-What can I do?
-Can I boot in Secure boot, will do anything? I try it, but say that push the action key (Which is the action key?).
-What will be the best way to change the Rom?
Very tranks for your attention.

Strange I'ved used Memmaid with most WM6 roms without problems.
You've uninstalled and the issue persists? And you are sure it's Memmaid and not anything else? What version of Memmaid are you using?
I guess you could reinstall the newest version (or another suitable program) and check the bootup apps/services and remove some them to see if that helps. While running what services/prog are running??
If not then a HR and see if the issue is really related to Memmaid.
- Boris

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Strange I'ved used Memmaid with most WM6 roms without problems.
You've uninstalled and the issue persists? And you are sure it's Memmaid and not anything else? What version of Memmaid are you using?
I guess you could reinstall the newest version (or another suitable program) and check the bootup apps/services and remove some them to see if that helps. While running what services/prog are running??
If not then a HR and see if the issue is really related to Memmaid.
- Boris
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Thanks BorisTheSpider, the version is 1.61., And now it is lower, the last action was to made a Backup with SKTools, but when boot, at the end appear the main windows, but no respons (or very slow).
Now I disconnect the battery, and I am going to remove apps/services
in bootup, but I don´t know each programs made. If I can I will show the apps/services in bootup for help somebody.
Thanks.

nadivar said:
Thanks BorisTheSpider, the version is 1.61., And now it is lower, the last action was to made a Backup with SKTools, but when boot, at the end appear the main windows, but no respons (or very slow).
Now I disconnect the battery, and I am going to remove apps/services
in bootup, but I don´t know each programs made. If I can I will show the apps/services in bootup for help somebody.
Thanks.
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Hmm...the problem might be your version, it's quite old. I am running V1.72, PM me if you need the app. I think you should HR to see if the OS is the issue or the apps are the issue.

BorisTheSpider said:
Hmm...the problem might be your version, it's quite old. I am running V1.72, PM me if you need the app. I think you should HR to see if the OS is the issue or the apps are the issue.
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Thanks for your answering BorisTheSpider. At the end, I made a HR, but I belive to know which is the problem.
I can see that I have 1500 Mbytes used in my SD_Card, but really only had 1100 Mbytes in files. I formatted the SD_Card, but the S.O. say that is used 975 Mbytes and others 900 Mbytes free, I couldn´t format the SD, At the end I could formats the SD with one utility "Format Memorys".
I thought that my real problems could be the SD. I read in this forum that is very common this problem, if used the on/off button to switch off the device and if in bootup is the sddaemon.lnk.
Thanks for your interesting.
I am going to send you a PM.

slow
hey same problem here im using prophet WM5 but the boot time is too long. guess it's because of the slow processor. but it's obviously slower than i first use it. now that i've installed so many things...
but 1 thing is whenever i open the windows folder, it takes like 10 mins to open the folder. is there any rubbish inside any1 removed safely and helps?
any1 has this file called 'cemail' on mydevice ? it's 1.87mb and i dont know what is it's function and it's always there.... too space consuming

Yes, opening the Windows folder is slow - this is due to all the files which are to be displayed.

WM 6.1 problem - Slowdown after gameplay

I have an Alltel HTC Touch, and I have a problem with WM 6.1; everytime I close out a game, it slows down my entire phone (and sometimes freezes it if I load an app like Opera Mobile). I've been to PPCGeeks about this, and they helped me a lot, by helping me overclock the processor. My phone doesn't slow down too much anymore, but the slowdown is noticeable enough to still be a problem.
I've flashed to at least six different WM6.1 roms now, and each of them gave me the same issue.
Does anyone have any fixes for this? I would really appreciate the help!!
SIDE NOTE:
Also, my camera is very laggy indoors. It ran perfectly smooth before my transition to 6.1, and it remains laggy when I flash back to the stock WM 6.0. Its bearable right now, but if anyone knows how to get it running smoothly indoors again, I'd really appreciate it!

For starters, this is not an issue with the OS.
What game is it?
How many other apps are running?
How many processes are running?
What ROM are you using?
What is the Page Pool size?

Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?

Oxymoron said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?
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LOL!
I'm trying to help you, but I can't until you answer some of the questions.
It's like calling a mechanic and asking what's wrong with your car, it runs a bit odd, but that's all the info given.

Sorry about the double post. My info's below.

Maybe a little more information will help.
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
I hope this helps.
WOW, I am SO sorry, I didn't even see those questions! I thought they were a part of your sig and didn't read it
1. It slows down with any game I run except for the ones that come with the rom (solitaire and bubble breaker). The games I've tried are:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
3. The roms that I've used are (all of these are for Alltel):
Conflipper's Vouge 6.1 ROM
Crystal v.4 6.1 ROM
Official 6.1 ROM
Dette M2D Diamond Edition v2.3 (Generic rom. This is the one I'm on currently).
4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
Again, sorry about that. I didn't see your questions

I officially give up!

Oxymoron said:
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
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You should have followed the cookers instructions, if you did not follow their instructions exactly, reflash by their way.
For the camera, it's sometimes laggy, especially with low memory.
Oxymoron said:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
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I haven't even seen half of these games, but PocketNES can be buggy. I suggest using dotfred's Task Manager and viewing CPU usage after playing these games. One of them may have a memory leak causing this.
Also check the other running processes for memoery consumption.
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4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
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Ususally the cooker posts this, but I see he didn't, the basics on this is it determines your available program memory at all times, especially on boot up, if you really want to know, soft reset, wait a min or two and check the avail program memory. Or use nue's system tool to view additional info.
Also, trying using Oxios Memory, it's free and will free up all avail program memory not being used.
You can try schap's Advanced Config Tool to speed up various parts of your device for improvement.
Alright, don't want to sound frustrated, but I just watched some Hell's Kitchen !

You are a genius! Thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna try them now and see what happens, and I'll be back with my results!
And, no, you didn't sound frustrated, even though if you did, I couldn't blame you
Thanks again!

Okay, I'm back. Using the task manager you suggested, I found the problem.
The game that I tested (4Pinball) is still running after I closed it. It doesn't show up on the quick menu in the upper right corner of the today screen, but it DOES show up in that task manager.
So I go to close it, and it says it can't be closed properly, and it asks me if I want to kill it. The strange thing is, the choices are ok and cancel instead of yes and no. But anyway, I hit ok.
then another message pops up, but there's no text in it; there's just an X there. After I close that message by hitting ok, I see that 4Pinball remains in the task manager, and it's still there even after I hit refresh.
I installed it to the storage card. Would there be a better chance of it working if I install to device memory?

Sometimes I got the blank message to, don't worry about that, but you have to kill the process for it to work.
Try uninstalling it and running without it.

I keep getting the blank screen... I tried to install it on both the storage card and the device memory, but in either case it doesn't close the game. I'll keep tryin'.

Oh yeah, and I tried that oxios memory program, but it didn't work... it would start loading, but it would never come up.
I remember hearing about a program that freed up ram over at ppcgeeks's forum. I'm gonna see if I can track it down.

boot in "safe mode"?

some threads get close, but no concrete help found...
Stuck in "Launching HTC Sense..."
Anything I can do, besides from flashing a new ROM?
Using a cooked ROM, with several programs/tweaks on it.
build 28205, sense 1922, taskbar showing, bottom row showing, background showing
ROM had been running without a problem for days.
Removed of course SIM & SD cards to remove interference
Hard reset, battery removal no change

Did you tried to reflash your device via the tri-colors screen mode?

yep. just did, no problem there.
just would have liked (or:want) to figure out how to bypass HTC Sense launch......
when xda quickmenu is installed (as I had), then sometimes by pressing the taskbar, quickmenu's popup window is shown, thus access to a file manager, thus a possibility to solve a htc sense problem. This time however, something stopped BEFORE quickmenu started, and I was stuck.

Did you have access to the start menu?
If yes, launch a file explorer, install bsb tweaks 1.6, launch it. Put Windows Settings to ON, soft reset.
After the soft reset, go to start menu -> settings -> Today -> Items, uncheck Sense.

I understand your problem...
No pen-pen, he cannot access anything in WM if Sense freezes while loading at startup: I have the same problem and tried to solve it loading different ROMs and talking here on XDA but for now no result.
The only thing I know is that for some unlucky guys the couple WM 6.5.3 (or later versions) together with Sense is lethal. At some point. The freezing happens after a Soft Reset usually (mainly because is time for Sense loading) and then only a Hard Reset can get out the situation because it's there everytime you Soft Reset.
Look for this program: SafeMode. It works like a charm but you have to pay or use the 14 days test.

That's why I asked if he had access to the start menu.
I didn't have this bug and, so far, I'm in WM6.5.3 since the release of the HSPL.
Did you tried to install your SPB software on wm 6.5.3? it could work. Maybe with some graphical glitches, but it could let you make a backup before the HR.
Also, I've played with Manilla 2.1 and LUA a long time ago when I was young( ), and each time I made a mistake, Manilla was freezing, BUT, after some time, I could have access to start menu to deactivate Manilla and make some debugging.
Maybe you're trying to install some bugged mod or created for an old build of Sense.
Did you checked that?

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The only thing I know is that for some unlucky guys the couple WM 6.5.3 (or later versions) together with Sense is lethal. At some point. The freezing happens after a Soft Reset usually (mainly because is time for Sense loading) and then only a Hard Reset can get out the situation because it's there everytime you Soft Reset.
Look for this program: SafeMode. It works like a charm but you have to pay or use the 14 days test.
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Hard reset did not solve it either. Hard reset gave the exact same problem.
Tried WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5, both with sense 1922. I'll try safemode, it it does what I think it does, it seems well worth the money.
Q: Anyone know how to make "XDA QuickMenu" start before Sense, that could potentially get me out af problemsituations as well (as QuickMenu, gives access to taskmanager, filemanager etc)

I had this problem a few times and traced it to SRS WOW. Specifically, SRS was installed, then the new SRS WOW control panel applet was opened before device was reset, it would hang at the same screen.
No idea if this is a possibility for you, just thought I'd suggest it.

hicks said:
I had this problem a few times and traced it to SRS WOW. Specifically, SRS was installed, then the new SRS WOW control panel applet was opened before device was reset, it would hang at the same screen.
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tnx! I indeed have SRS WOW installed. I remember there something special with this app, where after install a reset is mandatory before starting the app. Since I use Tom's autoinstall which ends with a reset this shouldn't be a problem. I'll try uninstalling it and see. Then again, this app has been running a long time on many different ROMs without a problem. Wouldn't do the author right to blame this app

Solution related to Document Tab?
Someone considered the beta Document Tab to be the principal cause of Manila freezing and I quite agree. I'm using Artemis ROM since 2 days ago (WM 6.5.5 and Sense 2.5.1922) disabling Document index service and it seems to work ok.
Try to disable it by changing register value at:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/HTCService/DocIndexerService
It's a String containing the DLL's name: turn it to something else (or blank value) and that should make the trick. I repeat: 48 hours without freezing and doing some Soft Resets just to try.
Hope to be of help.

I had with different roms/manila version this "freezign effect. Normlay after installing "my" software, so after a clean hard rest it was no problem.
So far I always solved it by using sk-tools and rearranging the booting order in the startup folder.
I put htc sense startup normaly at the very end of the booting chain.
This is certainly possible with QuickMenue as well.
In the meantime Iknow which applications are putting something in the startup folder and after installation of those programms I am changing it mit sk tools and do not wait till a reboot and run into trouble.
Best regards,
dingolino
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Hard reset did not solve it either. Hard reset gave the exact same problem.
Tried WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5, both with sense 1922. I'll try safemode, it it does what I think it does, it seems well worth the money.
Q: Anyone know how to make "XDA QuickMenu" start before Sense, that could potentially get me out af problemsituations as well (as QuickMenu, gives access to taskmanager, filemanager etc)
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dingolino said:
So far I always solved it by using sk-tools and rearranging the booting order in the startup folder.
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tnx! read about sktools, but didn't know exactly what it could do for me. For others: http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
I've got enough help for now. "safemode" and "SKtools" definitely helping.
tnx everyone

Htc slowing down

I have had my HTC for 1 week now and it has started to slow down has any one had any experience with this problem, I also have noticed my weather location is not working properly I dont know why I would appriciate it if some one can help.
-Metta

I assume you are using stock rom?
Sometimes slowdown could be due to installation of a software. Try to think of any software that might cause the slowdown.
But I think slowdown is unavoidable for most electronic devices, a month old laptop can never be compared to a same but new one.
If you wish, you can consider trying out some custom roms. They generally has better performance compared stock roms. Less junks and faster.

myth1001 said:
I assume you are using stock rom?
Sometimes slowdown could be due to installation of a software. Try to think of any software that might cause the slowdown.
But I think slowdown is unavoidable for most electronic devices, a month old laptop can never be compared to a same but new one.
If you wish, you can consider trying out some custom roms. They generally has better performance compared stock roms. Less junks and faster.
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Thanks for the reply how do I go about getting new ROMS. Would this wipe all the stuff I have on it atm? I mean everything from Wi-Fi internet to all apps and tools? If I install a ROM and don't like it what do I do then.

Metta24 said:
Thanks for the reply how do I go about getting new ROMS. Would this wipe all the stuff I have on it atm? I mean everything from Wi-Fi internet to all apps and tools? If I install a ROM and don't like it what do I do then.
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Installing a new ROM will remove all the stuff on phone memory. It's just like reformating a pc. If you don't like the rom, you can always try another rom.
There are plenty of stuff you need to know first before flashing a rom.
If you are new to this, make sure you read alot before doing anything to your phone. Everything you need to know can be found in the ROm Development section.

myth1001 said:
Installing a new ROM will remove all the stuff on phone memory. It's just like reformating a pc. If you don't like the rom, you can always try another rom.
There are plenty of stuff you need to know first before flashing a rom.
If you are new to this, make sure you read alot before doing anything to your phone. Everything you need to know can be found in the ROm Development section.
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Ok thanks alot mate.

Metta24 said:
Ok thanks alot mate.
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I'd recommend the Leopard 6.5.5 ROM, once you enter PIN, after that it's instantly usable, been using it for a few months now, constantly amazes me.

1) try to think if you really need the application before you will install it. Most of the apps leave lots of garbage after you uninstall them, so the phone is getting slower and slower.
2) use the program like cleanRAM
3) there is no "the ultimate ROM" - try a few - if you dont like particular one - try another. Just do not fall into the 'ROM changing addiction'
4) there is the difference between 6.5 and 6.5.x. If you used the stock ROM only, and you are used to have "Start" on top then (with 6.5.x) you will fill odd having the start on bottom - dont worry - you will use to that

pepesz said:
1) try to think if you really need the application before you will install it. Most of the apps leave lots of garbage after you uninstall them, so the phone is getting slower and slower.
2) use the program like cleanRAM
3) there is no "the ultimate ROM" - try a few - if you dont like particular one - try another. Just do not fall into the 'ROM changing addiction'
4) there is the difference between 6.5 and 6.5.x. If you used the stock ROM only, and you are used to have "Start" on top then (with 6.5.x) you will fill odd having the start on bottom - dont worry - you will use to that
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What is Clean ram?

Metta24 said:
What is Clean ram?
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its a program that clears all apps running in background and uses the free RAM for quicker processing.

also, I would recommend you to use a task manager in order to actually close applications after your donee using them instead off just minimizing them. because if you were like me when I first got my phone, I was so used to the iphone/android lack of multitasking, that I would always just push the home button to exit out of apps.however windows leaves them running in the background which causes a lotof slowdowns.

slowing down....confusing?
hi every body....
i've in some how the same problem...i mean the slowing down...
but i think the word i use is a little incorrect...because my phone works fast,and well but for example sometimes when i go to mesages, for a few seconds it slows down in changing messeges and then again works as fast as possible...or as an other example some times this happens in my contact list or my home screen...esp. when the weather is cloudy and lots of clouds are moving in my home screen
but i think the overall perfomance of my phone is still like the begining day...
i thought that the problem is due to some programs that i have installed like showcase task manager or touch x power but i removed them and still some times esp. in my home screen i have the problem!?
and by the way i''m using stock rom,WM 6.5 1.66.707 WWE and í've bought my HD2 about a week ago...
i'll be glad if any one knows about how the problem could be solved?!...or even to say that it's a problem or not!?...tnx

same here
yeah i've barely had the phone about two weeks and within the first three days it started slowing down. ESPECIALLY in the messages, and even more when i had the swype text input so i took that off. and at times i wouldnt even recieve the message. my phone's screen would light up as if i was about to get a message and i checked nothing was there but my friends told me they texted me and apparently i didnt receive. i want to try a new rom. but i really dont understand what cab files, tweaks, and things of that sort are. i've rooted my g1 before but never messed with a windows phone

Yeah this is really starting annoy me, I don't want to install a new ROM as I don't understand them but I want my phone back up to speed. Need more ideas please
-Metta

Use SPB backup. Make backup of your phone put it on your memory card. Then preform a hardreset.

jan-willem3 said:
Use SPB backup. Make backup of your phone put it on your memory card. Then preform a hardreset.
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Do you mean that thiswill backup evergthing on phone memory, will this include my contacts.

Well i dont exactly now but for sure all your programs. Sms and contacts can you backup with MyPhone or copy contacts to simcard or synchronize them with outlook.
Edit I investogated a little bit spb backup also backups contacts, sms and email. so only spb nacup should be enough.

jan-willem3 said:
Well i dont exactly now but for sure all your programs. Sms and contacts can you backup with MyPhone or copy contacts to simcard or synchronize them with outlook.
Edit I investogated a little bit spb backup also backups contacts, sms and email. so only spb nacup should be enough.[/QUOTE
Hmmmm, I could do I need abit more info first.
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Well it is simple you make a complete backup with spb backup. Then do hardreset and your done .
PS: Sorry for my bad text input typing on a phone is still not the same as a keyboard

There's no need for any hard resets. Connect your phone to a PC and check out how much free space your device (NOT the SD card) has left. If it's below 30, then there's your problem. Just use cleartemp and cleanram, move games and other apps from the phone memory to the card, and you should be ok. If the problems still persist, then I strongly advise you to flash a new ROM and see if things get any better. Peace!

anrabi4 said:
There's no need for any hard resets. Connect your phone to a PC and check out how much free space your device (NOT the SD card) has left. If it's below 30, then there's your problem. Just use cleartemp and cleanram, move games and other apps from the phone memory to the card, and you should be ok. If the problems still persist, then I strongly advise you to flash a new ROM and see if things get any better. Peace!
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Thanks for that very helpfull

Which Items Are Safe to Remove from Start Menu?

i got an unmodded hd2 TMOUS 6.5 stock rom. i got items in my startup folder that i want to remove. below are the items. which ones are safe to remove without any problems?
- BTTrayCE
- HTCStartUp
- Instant Forward
- LockDevice
- PKG
- poutlook
- SyncManager
- Voice Command
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when im on Stock 3.14 i always remove all the items on my startup folder, and i dont have any problems or issues with my phone. My phone runs smooth without any problems.

thebest1 said:
when im on Stock 3.14 i always remove all the items on my startup folder, and i dont have any problems or issues with my phone. My phone runs smooth without any problems.
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wassup thebest1. just to let you know, i got an unmodded, stock 6.5 hd2. i got a questions please. will removing startup items increase batt life and performance?

Only knowns issues by removing it are some apps that i notice. For instance holding the power button for 3 sec quicklist (Shutdown)app will appear. Now if you remove the apps from startup folder, holding the power button for 3 sec it will take about 6-7 sec for the quicklist app to appear. Same goes with Comm Manager, it will open automaticall. But by removing the apps from startup application it will take about 6-7 sec for Comm Manager to open. I replace those 2 apps with psshutxp and cookies home tab. I hope this helps.

thebest1 said:
Only knowns issues by removing it are some apps that i notice. For instance holding the power button for 3 sec quicklist (Shutdown)app will appear. Now if you remove the apps from startup folder, holding the power button for 3 sec it will take about 6-7 sec for the quicklist app to appear. Same goes with Comm Manager, it will open automaticall. But by removing the apps from startup application it will take about 6-7 sec for Comm Manager to open. I replace those 2 apps with psshutxp and cookies home tab. I hope this helps.
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so in other words, removing these startup items wont affect batt life or perforrnance. just that some programs will start a few secs longer.

Thats Correct. It will not affect battery life or performance.

I could be wrong but I think taking things off of your Start up has bound to help some. I mean for one when you first boot up hour device it uses the start up to know what programs it is suppose to initialize and start up and let continue to run in the background. So it would help a small bit by your device not having to start so much up and taking less time to boot. After all boot up is when your device has some of it's highest power consumtion. Also the less things running in the background the less the processor has to work and the less power consumption the device has. This is why turning HTC Sense off helps save battery because even though you canxsee it on the home screen. It is still a programthat is running in the background cause it is not part of the actual Windows OS but a theme or graphic UI for the device, now granted HTC Sense is one of the biggest power consuming programs compared to others. But thos is because HTC Sense recquires alot of,memory and resources of the device where most other programs don't. Remember I am only using HTC Sense as an example.
When you take the programs off of start up they take longer to come up because the have to cold start as to hot start if the are in start up. Cold start means it has to initialilize or started up before it can open. Hot start means it is already initialized or started ip and can just open.

T-Macgnolia said:
I could be wrong but I think taking things off of your Start up has bound to help some. I mean for one when you first boot up hour device it uses the start up to know what programs it is suppose to initialize and start up and let continue to run in the background. So it would help a small bit by your device not having to start so much up and taking less time to boot. After all boot up is when your device has some of it's highest power consumtion. Also the less things running in the background the less the processor has to work and the less power consumption the device has. This is why turning HTC Sense off helps save battery because even though you canxsee it on the home screen. It is still a programthat is running in the background cause it is not part of the actual Windows OS but a theme or graphic UI for the device, now granted HTC Sense is one of the biggest power consuming programs compared to others. But thos is because HTC Sense recquires alot of,memory and resources of the device where most other programs don't. Remember I am only using HTC Sense as an example.
When you take the programs off of start up they take longer to come up because the have to cold start as to hot start if the are in start up. Cold start means it has to initialilize or started up before it can open. Hot start means it is already initialized or started ip and can just open.
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hi t-mac.. thanks again for the reply. can you tell me to the best of your knowledge what these startup programs listed above are for?

koolxx said:
- BTTrayCE
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This has to do with your Bluetooth on your HD2, I am not sure but I think it is the program that actually runs the Bluetooth on your HD2. I Highlyb suggest not messing with it as you possible may regret it, I have read threads of people having troubles with BBTrayCe.exe not working or giving errors. So to be safe I would not mess with it.
koolxx said:
- HTCStartUp
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This is something else I suggest you do not mess with as this is also something kind of vital to your HD2 working right while running Windows Mobile. It activates such things like the G-Sensor, the volume controls, USB detect5ion, and etc. So you can why you ewould not want to mess with this.- Instant Forward
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- LockDevice
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This is the .exe that starts up the screen lock program, and the security lock program (if you use it) on your HD2, if you don't use or want either of these you can remove it and nothing bad should happen, except you would probably have to manually lock \disable the screen if you wanted the display to stay on all the time.
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- PKG
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I think tjhis is a program that allows auto run programs like .cab files to run when you click on them. There is other file types it allows to run also but I just used .cab as an example as I know most people know what they are.
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- poutlook
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This enables your Outlook functions in Windows Mobile. That is the easiest way to put it.
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- SyncManager
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This .exe has to do with starting ActiveSync and all the syncing capobilities it has this includes your Outlook services too
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- Voice Command
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This one is kind of self explanatory, it activaites your voice command fuction.

T-Macgnolia said:
This has to do with your Bluetooth on your HD2, I am not sure but I think it is the program that actually runs the Bluetooth on your HD2. I Highlyb suggest not messing with it as you possible may regret it, I have read threads of people having troubles with BBTrayCe.exe not working or giving errors. So to be safe I would not mess with it.
This is something else I suggest you do not mess with as this is also something kind of vital to your HD2 working right while running Windows Mobile. It activates such things like the G-Sensor, the volume controls, USB detect5ion, and etc. So you can why you ewould not want to mess with this.- Instant Forward
This is the .exe that starts up the screen lock program, and the security lock program (if you use it) on your HD2, if you don't use or want either of these you can remove it and nothing bad should happen, except you would probably have to manually lock \disable the screen if you wanted the display to stay on all the time.
I think tjhis is a program that allows auto run programs like .cab files to run when you click on them. There is other file types it allows to run also but I just used .cab as an example as I know most people know what they are.
This enables your Outlook functions in Windows Mobile. That is the easiest way to put it.
This .exe has to do with starting ActiveSync and all the syncing capobilities it has this includes your Outlook services too
This one is kind of self explanatory, it activaites your voice command fuction.
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thanks t-mac.. can you tell me what 'instant forward' is for? thanks man.

koolxx said:
thanks t-mac.. can you tell me what 'instant forward' is for? thanks man.
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I am not positive but I think it has to do with getting instant messages from messenger programs like yahoo, MSN, Google, and etc.

T-Macgnolia said:
I am not positive but I think it has to do with getting instant messages from messenger programs like yahoo, MSN, Google, and etc.
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thank you t-mac. also, just to let you know, im thinking about installing the custom stock rom you suggested. i think the one called 'reference'. but cn one use android apps on it? i'll be posting a new thread on this. thanks.

koolxx said:
thank you t-mac. also, just to let you know, im thinking about installing the custom stock rom you suggested. i think the one called 'reference'. but cn one use android apps on it? i'll be posting a new thread on this. thanks.
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No you can not use any androidapps with Windows Mobile at all. Now if it is a Windows Mobile version of the app then yes you can use it bitcthe Windows Mobileversion will probably not be quit as good as the Android.