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Constant Rebooting Problem

Hey guys,
I've had my Touch HD for about 5 months now, and I noticed last week that it seems to jump into a constant-reboot-loop every 2 or 3 days now.
The only way to solve it is to remove the battery for 5-10 minutes, put it back in and turn it on.
While the device is in this strange mode, it generally reboots *just* before the "Loading Windows" screen.
I believe I was running Miri's v16 or v17 when it first happened, and I'm currently using EnergyRom HD, which appears to have the same problem.
When it first started happening I flashed from Miri's rom to EnergyRom, and also did a hard reset, allowing Windows to reinitialise itself.
Has anyone else had anything like this happen to them? I'm starting to get concerned that my incredibly expensive device is slowly becoming nothing more than a brick...

In this thread, Megawhopp had a slightly similar problem which was resolved by doing the following:
1. Turn off the phone
2. Put it in the bootloader
3. Re-flashed the custom rom
4. Immediately unplug USB cable and yank battery after 100% flash
5. Immediate hard reset via phone buttons
Try this and let us know how you get along!!

Thanks for the suggestion - I haven't tried it just yet, but honestly, I'm slightly skeptical
Also, I do all of my flashing via the SD card (BLACIMG.nbh), as I find it much more reliable than the USB connection method.

daniel.hunt said:
Thanks for the suggestion - I haven't tried it just yet, but honestly, I'm slightly skeptical
Also, I do all of my flashing via the SD card (BLACIMG.nbh), as I find it much more reliable than the USB connection method.
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No probs, your call. Let me know anyhow if you get it sorted or not

Well, as I run Linux I've no choice but to do it the SD card way anyway, but I'll try the same test using the SD card method and see how it goes.
Thanks for the help, I'll let you know

Right well I carried out the steps using the SD card flashing method when the rebooting issue kicked in yesterday evening.
It took 3 attempts, but it seems to have sorted itself out again.
I've no idea if it's the steps that solved the problem, or just the luck of the draw though...

I had same problem, and I'm using default ROM without any 3rd party programs...
Just take battery out for 5minutes
then put it back, pressing the red reset button and then while pressing the red reset button press the power button release both and the phone will start and will work perfectly...

SuicideBE said:
I had same problem, and I'm using default ROM without any 3rd party programs...
Just take battery out for 5minutes
then put it back, pressing the red reset button and then while pressing the red reset button press the power button release both and the phone will start and will work perfectly...
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Yup, that's exactly what I do. What I want to know is WHY it happens though

Looks like I still have this problem. I can't recreate it at will, and it doesn't seem to be caused by any particular action I'm doing at the time.
This is so bloody frustrating.

SAME PB
I have try out all:reflash rom/spl flash whith spl olinex /flash with uspl/
from storage card/ from xp and vista/ voodoo/cooking eggs........
Sreen smartmobility and reeboot ;a time bomb?

ankodo said:
a time bomb?
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I doubt it - this is happening across multiple different ROMs

daniel.hunt said:
I doubt it - this is happening across multiple different ROMs
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this pb coming up the first time with a original rom (orange france). on this time a softreset was enough for make the HD working

ankodo said:
this pb coming up the first time with a original rom (orange france). on this time a softreset was enough for make the HD working
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Firstly, it's a "problem", not a "pb". You have a full keyboard in front of you, so why not use it?
Secondly, it's slightly worrying me now that this is happening for you on a *stock* ROM. I really hope this isn't a hardware issue, or I'll be in for a whole world of hurt

daniel.hunt said:
Firstly, it's a "problem", not a "pb". You have a full keyboard in front of you, so why not use it?
Secondly, it's slightly worrying me now that this is happening for you on a *stock* ROM. I really hope this isn't a hardware issue, or I'll be in for a whole world of hurt
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sorry for "pb" another thing: HD is off;i put the charger in and 30seconds later he starts???

I got a similar problem using duttys 6.5 R4 , but only that rom.
Other roms work fine.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4092524&postcount=1792

I'd appreciate it if you kept me updated with how you get on?

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I'd appreciate it if you kept me updated with how you get on?
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It looks like i fixed my problem by reformatting my sd card.
Read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4097689&postcount=111

I had the same problem, I found when I had 3G shut off and I had no or low signal it would go into a constant reboot. I turned 3G back on and never had the problem again.
Give that a try, no need to hard reset.

HD2 frozen on boot

I have just got the HD2 and been using it for a few weeks. Downloaded a few apps (eg HTC rom, BSB tweeks) and all is good. Saw Max Manila and looked like a great idea - checked my manila version 2.5.19211619.0 and downloaded 2.7 SE (checked it's right for my manila) loaded onto phone and it crashed after soft reset. Took battery out and phone doesn't go past first screen (with the red writing bottom left) - Hard reset is the same and now I'm worried!
Any ideas???

sad to say yy sounds like hard reset time.
power off, hold volume up and volume down, tap power keeping volume up and down pressed til the screen comes on and follow the prompts.
it will reset your phone to factory defaults.
never used max manila so I cant help with what the problem might be, but if there is a developers thread for it you might be better asking there.

Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.

if your phone is provider locked then that will not work.you need the rom that came on your phone. so if was from uk o2 then you need the o2 uk rom, otherwise it wont work.

No luck! Whilst I've got everything to sort the phone out it won't do anything but load the white first screen no matter which buttons I hold down.
Man this sucks!
Guess there's nothing for it except the bin unless anyone else has any other ideas??

can you get into boot loader?
press and hold vol down(not up this time, just down) tap and release power, keep vol down held. should boot to striped cultures colored screen.
if you can what does it say next to SPL?

Hi Samsamual
Thanks for helping but no, won't go into bootloader either - doesn't respond to any input (even when I conect the usb the charge led doesn't come on!) and just starts with the white screen with the HTC logo and then the red writting appears and it just hangs - left it for 5 mins just to be sure and no change
Looks like I've really messed it up although I have no idea what I did wrong - instal went just like the other things I installed.

Ahh shame. All i can suggest is the original rom sd card method. But it MUST be the propper rom that came on your phone, so if you got it from vodaphone, , , even if it is unlocked, you must use the voda rom.
Also, have a really good read through the pages in teh rom development section. If you can find someone with the exact same issue, you could be one step closer to fixing it.

Brotherskid said:
Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.
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you must tab the power botton for a short time just tab it and leave it with keeping pressing on the volume up and down buttons don't leave them i think it must work with you tell me if it works

Brotherskid said:
...I'm going to try booting from the sd card b
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When you tried the SD card method did you use a 2GB SD card and was it formatted to FAT32?
WB

Have you tried a boot (all combinations!) without the sd card installed?

Hoss and WB - thanks for the comments
Hoss, I've held the volume buttons for over a minute after powering on - no change
WB, I can't get the phone to go into boot loader screen but thanks for the info for the future. Next time I'll see if I can copy the original rom just in case.
Resigned myself to having a new paper weight on my desk and looking for a new phone - Guess I won't be putting so many programs on my new one....

PA - Thanks for the advice - Yes tried with sd card in/out sim in/out bootloader, hard reset, soft reset and always the same.

In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.

rlydiard said:
In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.
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What's most annoying is it wasn't as if I was doing anything crazy! Max manila is used by many people (from what I've seen in the threads) and I guess I downloaded the wrong one (although naturally I checked and it's the right one). Certainly will curb my using of 3rd party software! As for the warranty, you're right, I can try and see if it can be fixed (bizarrely, that hadn't occured to me - I thought that with no resets working HTC couldn't do anything). Thanks for the tip and I'll let you know how I get on.

Surely your warranty will cover this. Yes, let me (and us) know how all of this goes. You will get your phone back to what you deserve, for sure!

I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.

watnuweer said:
I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.
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Experential nut I may be, but just wondering if you had the problem after you installed the MAx manila? I wonder now what versions of OS may be causing this problem.

i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile

fakker said:
i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile
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This is getting more interesting, what do you suppose is the cure of taking out the battery, and then charging? I do not doubt your experience, I am just extremely curious if anyone can explain this phenomena.

No roms work, for very long?

I've tried loads and loads of different roms on different wm roms and different radios etc, an they all either crash or have loads of fc's or sleep of death?? Battery pulls and rebooting are becoming the bain of my life. Please, any help, at all
Cheers

Give me your email I can help you ...

Hi mate,
hard reset your HD2(while holding volume up and volume down button press power button) and format your SD card and then do the normal installation. reboot after installation. all will work buddy.

I get random occasions when a build will go to pot and all I get is force closes for everything. Haven't found the cause yet
Sent from my HD2 T8585 using XDA App

rasih5503 said:
Hi mate,
hard reset your HD2(while holding volume up and volume down button press power button) and format your SD card and then do the normal installation. reboot after installation. all will work buddy.
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Agreed. If this is proven not to work either, I recommend trying a new SD card. It could be wearing out/failing.
It should work after that. Not too many people have many problems. Personally, every build works amazing for me, even when people say things are broken. My sig is my setup.

Cheers fellas, gunna do that now, i'll let you know how it goes

This is what I do when my builds seem to turn unstable:
Settings-SD&phone storage-phone factory reset. It doesnt erase anything like it says it is going to but has always seemed to restabilize my os. Give it a try works for me every time.

Ok done hard reset, got a new mem card formatted no luck? SOD on first screen lock on loads of different roms. Like it comes on i can do all the setup an all that, get it sorted an then when i lock it just doesn't wake back up?

Stuck in Splash Screen

My frigin HD2 keeps freezing on me on the splash screen. How do I fix this? I'm running windows 6.5 and I can't seem to get past the splash screen. It's mocking me. Someone please help before I smash this thing.

flashed anything recently? do you get RGD info, small red txt, bottom left on splashscreen?

This is my fathers phone and I haven't flashed anything for him since I flashed the energy rom stable version. I get to the small red text and then it freezes and nothing happens.

try the factory reset, switch off - press the up and down volume keys together and hold them in - press the power button release the buttons when you get the white screen read and follow the instructions

johnerz said:
try the factory reset, switch off - press the up and down volume keys together and hold them in - press the power button release the buttons when you get the white screen read and follow the instructions
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Thank you for the advice. I've tried this and I still get stuck with the opening splash screen. Anyone else?

Try booting the HD2 without te sim card or the SD card in, bit do it ome at a time so you can see of the sim card of SD card might be giving you a problem.
If no joy with that option, then put the HD2 in a sealable plastic bag and then in the freezer for 10 to 15 minutes then try to bootx it. If it boots then the device is more than likely experiencing hardware problems. So if the HD2 is still umder warranty flash the stock ROM and SPL back to the HD2 and send it in for repair or ecxhange.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, it seemed to be a hardware problem. I sent it back to HTC and they repaired it for a small fee. Now I seem to be having problem with it reading sim cards so I'm not really too sure whats going on with that.

HI everyone it seems that i have the same problem now, i dont know if i should open a new thread. Anyways, i installed RiffleLock v14 and combined it with live wallpaper. I guess this was a "deadly" combination. My phone keeps on restarting . Even with hard reset using physical hardware. After i completed the whole process. When it starts, same problem arises, phone keeps on rebooting... can anyone help me on this?
Bought this phone just 2 weeks at ebay. It is an HTC HD2 Android (this is now the ROM inside phone memory) CM7 Typho0n 2.3.4... cant give you anymore info this is my first time to own a droid.
I already PMed a senior member, but any suggestions and help will be very much appreciated. Thanks!!!

earthworm1102 said:
HI everyone it seems that i have the same problem now, i dont know if i should open a new thread. Anyways, i installed RiffleLock v14 and combined it with live wallpaper. I guess this was a "deadly" combination. My phone keeps on restarting . Even with hard reset using physical hardware. After i completed the whole process. When it starts, same problem arises, phone keeps on rebooting... can anyone help me on this?
Bought this phone just 2 weeks at ebay. It is an HTC HD2 Android (this is now the ROM inside phone memory) CM7 Typho0n 2.3.4... cant give you anymore info this is my first time to own a droid.
I already PMed a senior member, but any suggestions and help will be very much appreciated. Thanks!!!
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kutos for not starting a new thread! (btw what you describe for your android is called nand.)
my suggestion: start over. flash back to WM, then reinstall android on nand. takes ~15 minutes and will give you a clean start. otherwise, who knows what happened. or at the mininum, reflash your rom. or flash a new rom. but i like the WM option as you can see if is hardware or software as the culprit.
however, reboots can also be to bent battery pins.

"kutos for not starting a new thread! (btw what you describe for your android is called nand.)
my suggestion: start over. flash back to WM, then reinstall android on nand. takes ~15 minutes and will give you a clean start. otherwise, who knows what happened. or at the mininum, reflash your rom. or flash a new rom. but i like the WM option as you can see if is hardware or software as the culprit.
however, reboots can also be to bent battery pins"
Tried and checked that battery pins too! But actually it was the hard reset that baffles me. It takes like a second only, and it restarts. But when it do restarts it is like i did not do a hard reset. I like the advise you gave me, but the problem is i only had this phone for a little than 2 weeks. I cant even flash this coz it is stuck on bootscreen, I cant follow even tutorials on you tube coz it doesn't show that it was messed up like mine before they started flashing it. It's like a "Where do i begin Love Story song lol!!
I tried to contact the person who sold me this phone at ebay but he wont respond.
So what choices do i have here, i dont know how to flash with the current situation of my phone. Am even thinking of mailing this to anyone and giving me a dual boot then and just freakin pay and spend more over this phone. I dont have a choice.....
Any more suggestions here would be greatly appreciated.
hard reset ,nothin changed

i think we are talking about a couple of different things here (maybe).
when i say hard reset i mean - boot into bootloader (3 colored screen) - reboot holding volume key down - and via usb or sdcard flash back to windows mobile. have you done that? can you get to bootloader?
sucks you're having issues...

Yeah i can go to the 3 colored screen. That is actually the first i see before the "white screen"... can you teach me how to do that kind of hard reset??
I dont have WinMo anymore... the guy that sold me this phone put Android as the main OS.

earthworm1102 said:
But actually it was the hard reset that baffles me. It takes like a second only, and it restarts. But when it do restarts it is like i did not do a hard reset.
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doing a hard reset when magldr/android is installed is pointless, because it doesnt reset anything, (or i think ive seen it said that it hard resets magldr, the effect is the same, , , nothing happens) which is why it only took a few seconds.
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Yeah i can go to the 3 colored screen. That is actually the first i see before the "white screen"
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still got a leoimg.nbh on your sd card? could explain the white screen,,,
when i say hard reset i mean - boot into bootloader (3 colored screen) - reboot holding volume key down - and via usb or sdcard flash back to windows mobile.
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thats not a hard reset, thats flashing back to stock.

samsamuel said:
thats not a hard reset, thats flashing back to stock.
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yep yep. tis what i meant.
@ the op, since you didn't put the rom on your phone, i would flash back to stock (aka back to windows mobile) and get rid of android. then put back android. see what happens.
read this thread, #5 to be exact to get back to windows mobile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
this will get rid of android, save your hspl which will make putting android back on easy. however, if the problem exists in wm, is out of my knowledge, and is not seemingly software and more likely hardware. but if samsamuel thinks different, he knows a ton, and has helped me out of many a pickle. cheers.

K bro. Thanks!! +1 thanks for you!!!!

@samsamuel am talking about the white screen wherein you will hard reset ( holding volume up/down and red key). Oh well. I just talked to the person whom i bought the phone he will just put back original rom and i might just have a dual boot. Hope this will be much better. Thanks guys!!
Learn from our mistakes.... this will be sticky for me!!!
guess samsamuel is the man!!!

well glad you will have a solution. but just so you know - dual boot means one of two things - WM on your phone and android on the SD card or WindowsPhone7 on your phone and android on your SD card. No "real" dual boot per se.
honestly, i would try to look at putting on your preferred rom. good luck!

You mean dual boot isn't good? Is that more of a disadvantage rather than an advantage. Or will a noob like me [email protected]##ed this phone again and will be in more trouble?

Not saying good or bad. Rather dual boot means android is on your SD card. Very easy to get this going. Wont hurt your system. Just being informative.
I prefer nand android but that is my preference. If you will never use windows mobile and only android I would forget dual....but is all about preference. Cheers.
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[Q] Blackstone freeze on startup after task 29

Hey people, I usually upgrade roms on my blackstone, been 2 years now, all fine, until yesterday after a task 29.{Ypsmav rom} My phone didn't want to start, eternal freeze on start up with the htc logo ..
Can you kindly help me please.Tried several HR, to no avail..

This happend to me, this is what i did to fix it:
Take the batery of the phone
Wait a few minutes and put the batery back on
With the USB Cable unplugged press the Volume Down button and then the Power Button
Plug the USB into the phone (Don't do anything else to the phone)
Run the ROM you downloaded
Select Task 28 and upgrade.
It worked with my Touch HD

task 29 completely formats your phone, including the rom partition, so of course it cannot boot into windows mobile, there is currently no windows mobile on it!
as already pointed out, you need to flash a rom again.

Hm, Got it resolved . Thxs anyway

Hey guys!
I hope it´s ok to use this thread for my question...
I have a big problem with my old Blackstone... I didn´t use it for a long time (because I got a HTC Desire and a Galaxy Tab). Now i started the phone, but it won´t boot. It stucks at the boot screen (HTC Smart Mobility)...
So far so good... So I thought, I´ll do a Hard Reset... Then I saw that the VOL-Buttons are broken... So, HardReset with VOL-Button won´t work.
Is it possible to flash the phone via USB (ActiveSync doesn´t work...)?
Or is the phone broken?
Thanks in advance for help!
Cya

without the use of the volume buttons, it is next to impossible to get the device working again, since your device does not boot into winmo nor can you access the bootloader mode to flash it. your only chance would be to get the volume keys working again, have you tried using them without the back cover and pressing them really deep?

Hey.
Yeah, I've tried to get the Buttons work again, but keys are definitly broken. Something seems to miss on the buttons, so I think the are broken...
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since you do have another phone, you might want to consider giving away/ selling your blackstone.
lately, i think there are more and more threads with people that have problems with their displays and/or digitizers and they might be willing to buy it for parts or you could donate it to the developers of xdandroid, so they finally have a device to test it on.
or you could search and download the htc blackstone service manual pdf and disassemble the device yourself to fix the buttons.

Blackstone freeze on startup after task 29
frsb said:
this happend to me, this is what i did to fix it:
Take the batery of the phone
wait a few minutes and put the batery back on
with the usb cable unplugged press the volume down button and then the power button
plug the usb into the phone (don't do anything else to the phone)
run the rom you downloaded
select task 28 and upgrade.
It worked with my touch hd
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it worked for me too bundle of thanks