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Gizmodo's "The Ultimate Smartphone Camera Battle": Guess who the winner is?

Just read the article on Gizmodo.com that was posted this afternoon.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
Guess who the winner is?
Yep, Samsung Epic 4G.
Not surprising though since I'm very happy with my camera.
As a smartphone camera, I think it's as good as it gets.

it is a good camera
evos is too slow this one is lightning fast

What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.

tonysohn said:
Just read the article on Gizmodo.com that was posted this afternoon.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
Guess who the winner is?
Yep, Samsung Epic 4G.
Not surprising though since I'm very happy with my camera.
As a smartphone camera, I think it's as good as it gets.
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As a person that came from an HTC Hero I can truly say that the Epic4G has made me believe in taking camera shots from a phone again. The 5 Megapixel camera on the Hero just doesn't compare.
I wish HTC would focus on installing a quality sensor rather than upping the Megapixels to make phone look better on paper. Its kinda like overclocking a CPU and Marketing it at that speed knowing damn well it well it would be more stable if it was clocked down a bit with similar performance.

J3ff said:
What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.
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Even though the test controls were less than perfect they at least gave an unbiased review of all the pictures. You have to at least give them that. Isnt Gizmodo usually more inclined to Apple and their Iphone?

pg2k3 said:
Even though the test controls were less than perfect they at least gave an unbiased review of all the pictures. You have to at least give them that. Isnt Gizmodo usually more inclined to Apple and their Iphone?
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I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.

J3ff said:
I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.
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Lol this guy!! Pure jealousy s
Im not surprised at all...The EPIC is the best phone ever......it smashes the evo
Get over it evo owners.....
And the FLAMING begins

This article was written by Maximum PC and reposted by Gizmodo. Maximum PC is actually a little anti-iPhone. When it first came out they were all over, it but since Android became popular they've dropped everything else.
In fact, most Maximum PC editors are... surprise... anti-Apple! (who knew?)

J3ff said:
I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.
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That definitely would have required a universal tripod of some sort, As well as consistent test subjects completely across the board. Cuz as you pointed out, the angles were different in some of the pictures.

ultra78721 said:
Lol this guy!! Pure jealousy s
Im not surprised at all...The EPIC is the best phone ever......it smashes the evo
Get over it evo owners.....
And the FLAMING begins
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I own an Epic, my dad has the evo! LOL and I do think it has the best camera out of all of them!! I just can't stand when someone writes a steaming pile and then thinks it's somehow valid.

pg2k3 said:
That definitely would have required a universal tripod of some sort, As well as consistent test subjects completely across the board. Cuz as you pointed out, the angles were different in some of the pictures.
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A tripod, a dummy and some tape is all that they needed.

churro7 said:
it is a good camera
evos is too slow this one is lightning fast
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Not to mention u have to be in well lit areas the evo sucky camera does horrible in dark areas. The EPIC simply and obviously has a better camera than the evo. HANDS DOWN

Yea, the test was absolute garbage, but I do believe that the Epic has the nicest camera of all of those phones they tested. They could have easily taken pictures of stationary objects like fruit while placing the cameras sitting still in the exact same place. Same for the contrast shot of that chicks face. Put the phones on a stationary surface so they are not moving, and then take the pictures while telling the subject to be as still as possible.

J3ff said:
What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.
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Excellent points. This test is garbage.

just that discredits the photos?

Anyone else here wishing ATT will release another Dual core phone?

I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.

xs2k said:
I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.
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its not android's fault
.....its motoblur's fault...and the fact its running froyo

What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?

CC Lemon said:
What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?
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Judging from the video reviews of the LG 2X, the browser and overall phone seem much more fluid on the 2X. Try loading up engadget or pocketnow.com and it's annoyingly slow to browse on the Atrix. Even my 1.5 year old Ipod touch browses better than this phone. I tried Firefox, and it's a little bit better, but not my much.
Another issue: The phone freezes up sometimes opening text messages. I'm also getting error messages like "the message must contain valid recipients and content" even though I'm immediately "replying" to a message...lol
Overall feel = too much plastic.

The experience with this phone seems to vary a lot...
I've had almost no issues and everything seems to run exceptionally smooth to me. I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS and browsing is without a doubt better on the Atrix. I can scroll entire pages like engadget without it hesitating to load while my iphone is constantly having to pause for a second to make the page viewable if I scroll beyond a crawl. I've used my friends iphone 4 quite a bit as well and I'd have to say that I think the atrix works better for browsing than that as well. Definitely closer than my 3GS, but the atrix seems to handle it just a little bit better.
Texts have worked fine for me... nothing spectacular but not worse than other smartphones I've used.
Build quality definitely doesn't seem to be the same as my 3GS, but I like the design of the atrix a bit more. It's hard to beat the "solid" feel of the iphone though. I'd say the atrix is at least on par with the average smartphone, but definitely not the best.

Webtop access kit - Blurry HDMI Output
I am having a very hard time deciding to keep this phone. There are things it does so well and others are a clear miss.
The HD dock kit (with the keyboard/mouse) brings up a massive limitation on this phone when connected to a HDMI monitor. Out of 4 HDMI monitors and TVs I own, there is not one that is an exact native resolution mode that is supported by this phone. The 720p modes come close to my 720p monitors but there is no support at all for 1080 modes.
This makes the video out look like crap on these monitors, like using S-video in or something. Most of the video modes seem to be from the old VGA output connector days like 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 etc. Why?
The output quality is no where even close to what you are used to on your PC because of this. If you were lucky enough to have a monitor with a supported native resolution then mabey it would look correct. As it is, the text is painfully blurry to look at in todays crisp digital era.
Now that the desktop mode is unusable because of crappy video out mode support, major functions of this Atrix are gone.
Anyone else notice this? I thought I should post this to give others a heads up on these accessories.

I'm curious how many people having issues have rooted their device. I rooted mine the day I got it, but reversed the root after seeing some issues others are having. Root access doesn't mean much to me anyway.

CC Lemon said:
The experience with this phone seems to vary a lot...
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.

mrdlpatterson said:
Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I went from using the captivate and i can hardly tell a difference between the two screens. The screen is the least of this phones problems anyhow.

"First on the block syndrome"
Some are happy or don't want to admit their early rush may have been too early.
Others read the specs and expectations are not met.
Still others are happy with their choice and understand being the first release may not be perfect and have the patience to wait for the inevitable upgrades and ROMS.
As for my I am usually last on the block and am rarely disappointed (except with iphone)
A hotrodded Captivate will likely be slicker than a first release Atrix despite the specs

The Atrix browses the web so much smoother than my overclocked Captivate.
When I loaded up a page on the Captivate, it wouldn't let me scroll at all until it was almost completely loaded. And when I did, it would show me some grid of blank space where there should have been website, and I would have to wait for it to load before I could see what part of the page I was on.
On the Atrix, it loads the whole webpage much better and there's hardly any lag at all with browsing and scrolling. I think your expectations are too high. Tone it down a notch and take a step away from the hardware sheet, then make your judgements.

Coming from a captivate my only complaints are the lack of the s amoled screen. At first i thought this phone had lag but now that ive been using it for awhile i notice that its the refresh rate of the display. Anytime the screen moves it gets slightly distorted. Opening apps and transitioning from screen to screen are snappy. Out of the box this phone blows the pants off my captivate. Everything just works so far.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

mrdlpatterson said:
Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I had problems with screen responsiveness when I switched to launcher pro, but after switching back to motoblur the problems went away.
I swapped my HTC Inspire for this phone, and my initial reaction was to return the Atrix. Yes the screen does feel like a dumbphone compared to my Captivate and the Inspire, but if you dig deeper you'll find it's mainly the color yellow that throws it off. It feels like a television that needs to be calibrated badly.
Voodoo sound and color helped the Captivate, maybe someone will do the same for the Atrix, before I slam it into a wall hopefully.

If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.

I own two Captivates that are both faster than the new Atrix 4g that I just got. The Atrix is still an Awesome phone and the Dev's here are working hard to make it better for all of us. I have seen all kinds of complaints and critisism here most of which are not at all constructive.
Personally I think there are numerus places and sites for this type critisism. The name of this site is xda-developers! It is where we all come if we have a problem or need assistance or simply want to learn about a device. I enjoy coming here and interacting with everyone and having an opportunity to learn. Education is a comodity that is cherished throughout the world! The hate and critisism distract and sway people from the task at hand with developing this new product. The Mods closed down the last thread that went in this direction (and rightfully so) and suspect the same will come of this.
Sorry to offend anyone and will probably get flamed royaly but it is just my two cents worth......

mrdlpatterson said:
Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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Yes, I get this once in a while. When pressing "settings" or any of the buttons in menu screen, the touch would not register until the 2nd or 3rd try. Very annoying.

Exador said:
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Yes, we all put a gun to your head and made you read this. We also strapped your fingers to the mouse button for you to open these threads. These are feedbacks and I'm sure Moto is taking notes. Maybe other members here have solutions to some of the problem they're willing to share. You coming in here complaining about the complainers make you look like a little ***** also. lol. I bet the guy trolling about the nexus S is your best friend.

A hotrodded Captivate isn't nearly as slick as the Atrix. I have both and there is no comparison.
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the only thing that might be interesting is the samsuck galaxy s2
but i dont like samsung, its personal

Exador said:
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Thanks for being so rude. This is called feedback, and these posts have shown that others have had similar problems. I found it helpful.

xperia arc review - engadget

First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/

everything non Apple is bad for Engadget
mith500 said:
First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
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This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews

hung77 said:
This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
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quite, dear sir, quite.
i never liked them..

Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.

george232 said:
Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.
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But I do agree with them that the videocam is terrible ! I hope they can fix that.
Personally I'd give it 8 out of 10 but that comes from a guy who just ordered one today and cant wait to get it on friday. Guess I "want" it to be 8/10.
Ah what the hell, its gonna be awesome

I love how they wouldnt stop talking about how thin the iphone 4 was but it was barely mentioned in the Arc review and when it was, it was shown in a negative light. The iphone 4 should have gotten a 7 just for the fact that the screen is so bloody small.
Horrible Engadget horrible.

Theres another review over at What Mobile, quite thorough and seems generally positive. They gave the phone a 5 out of 5
Sadly i cant paste links yet, but google sony ericsson arc review and you should see it, or go to What Mobile's site

The only downside to the Arc's buttonry is one we spotted with the Xperia Play as well -- there's no illumination for the key labels in the dark. You get a pair of lights marking the division between each key, but their purpose is basically indecipherable when the phone's used in the dark
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Hahaha... ooh 3 buttons.. oooh.. I can't remember which one is which.. it's so complex! if only there was just one button.. that would be much better!

hung77 said:
This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
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I do not bother visiting Engadget any more as they are only positive with Apple products. Time to clean out the reviewers I think and get some fresh faces there that will give us unbiased opinions on new technology from non fan boys.
I was hopping the camera was as good as they were making out it was going to be in there advertising lets hope there can be a software update to improve the quality a little.

Engadget is a good source for review
You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor

Nice. I have a feeling that a Factory unlocked Xperia ARC will be my next device . IF the unlock bootlader thing comes out first!

Positive review on Pocket Lint as well.
http://m.pocket-lint.com/reviews/review_summary.phtml/5341

assafk said:
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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It's far better than the iPhone 4 camera. I have both.
And the advertisement was mainly in the low light capabilities, where it's FAR better than the iPhone.

i like this thing!! i buy this thing!!
it rocks!

assafk said:
You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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1) arc has 512 ram. all new xperias have 512 ram
2) the camera is awsome, for a phone. there are comparison vids between iphone4 and arc.. you see the difference lol
3) camera is not jerky cuz of low ram. lol. or am i wrong here? but still if it can be, they must have had a ton of apps in the background, since 300+ mb of user available ram is MORE than enough for a friggin camera lol.

Even while multitask-gaming (multiple games open at once) and listening to music and just using my Arc for general stuff, I haven't dropped below 80MB free RAM. And I do not use task killers or kill processes. RAM is really not a problem ATM.
The camera is really, really good for a phone. Only the Nokia N8 has a better camera. Especially in low light, the photos might not be really really good, but they're still by far the best of all mobile phone cameras. In such a small and slim device it's impossible to fit a larger sensor, so it's impossible to get a much better camera anyway.
Camera video jerky? There's a small bug that makes video hang for half a second when switching between very dark and very light images, but that is the only thing I've noticed, and it happens very rarely.

hung77 said:
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I understand your point but did you even read the article? They gave it a good review. Also to those referring to the number system please remember that the same person does not usually do all phone reviews so they are subjective.
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gsm arena's xperia arc review is out
but I cant read it, it is gibberish....WTF! April fools or what?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-583.php
EDIT: new link for the review in English...lol
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-584.php

It should be clear by now that this review article, outlived in a day, was a mere April's Fools Day joke. We have a proper Arc review up online, so you should refer to that instead. We're glad you saw the funny side of it. If you are interested, you can find more about the Lorem ipsum dolor text here. To see more of our 1st April's spirit, check out our Genesis tablet.
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Yup, Arpil fool. They have a real review up but i can't link it.

The lorem ipsum dolor text is an old Microsoft joke used to display how fonts appear in Word to give the user an idea which font to choose. The text means nothing, it's a bunch of words sounding Latin and therefore important and smart.

Autofocus issue

Hi there..
as i can read from this review, it seems S3 has the same autofocus issue as S2..in the 1080p camera demo video you can see how terrible the autofocus is.
Someone can confirm that?

i read that the auto focus was one of the best on engadget, yes engadget, the isheep blog. Stop creating stupid threads like this please,
can someone lock this stupid thread by what seems like a sore one x owner?
autofocus during video recording was some of the best we've seen in any smartphone. 1080p is recorded with a data-rate of around 2.2MB/s, which is very healthy indeed, and autoexposure shifts smoothly and sensibly.

I wouldn't close it, I saw on the verge that the autofocus was a bit crap on the sgs3 when recording 1080p. There is a sample video on the review and you can see the phone trying to autofocus loads.

verge hates samsung, thats why I took em off my favorites and never looked back. engadget while an isheep site, does give an objective review.

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verge hates samsung, thats why I took em off my favorites and never looked back. engadget while an isheep site, does give an objective review.
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Funny, since Verge gave the GS3 a much better review than Engadget.

boodies said:
engadget while an isheep site, does give an objective review.
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Hmm?
"The worst thing about the GS III? No matter how hard it tries, it just isn't greater than the sum of the HTC One X's parts. That's not to say it falls short, but merely to emphasize that times have changed since last year's Galaxy S II, which landed on an unsuspecting world that was largely devoid of predators."
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review/
I'm just playing around with you. You really have to look across multiple reviews and draw your own conclusions. There can also be differences between the h/w and firmware on pre-production devices that make them perform differently from each other and possibly production units. The camera's usually a hot button on any new phone so I'm sure both the positives and negatives will be all over the front page a week or two after it's in people's hands.

barry... lol you're still here eh? how are things over at the one x? haven't been there since you started calling me a troll ... with a low post count .. huehue..
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Funny, since Verge gave the GS3 a much better review than Engadget.
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yeah, after they had an article titled Why Samsung broke my heart, on their homepage for the longest time, I couldn't handle it anymore lol. off my faves. don't know why they didn't have one called how One X broke my phone lol

the techradar actually says that you can touch to focus while recording video, which does disable autofocus. this is the most sensible thing to do if you have trouble shooting a video.
problem solved

boodies said:
how are things over at the one x?
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The One X forum is full of whiners, complainers, and nit pickers that no device ever released could ever please. I hope for your sake that they all don't decide to get SGS3's and come over here.
This is a typical example of the deep discussion that takes place to get the most out of the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674783

Im with barryh here. We need to actually play with this for some time before we make assessments as to whats actually crap.
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda premium

BarryH_GEG said:
The One X forum is full of whiners, complainers, and nit pickers that no device ever released could ever please. I hope for your sake that they all don't decide to get SGS3's and come over here.
This is a typical example of the deep discussion that takes place to get the most out of the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674783
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lol, it's too deep i can't sink my feet in.. that link was classic, calling a feature a bug lol. im sure we'll have some of that whining action here in about 3 weeks ^_^

Harsh Rating!!!

I believe everyone rates this phone highly, so why has cnet gave this phone a 4 out of 5 rating??
Can't post a link as I'm a newbie...

fazzxx said:
I believe everyone rates this phone highly, so why has cnet gave this phone a 4 out of 5 rating??
Can't post a link as I'm a newbie...
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Maybe HTC dont advertise heavily enough on their site?

dahmmy said:
Maybe HTC dont advertise heavily enough on their site?
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hahaha, point to be noted, your honor!

i have never seen this many positive reviews for an HTC phone. some are calling it the best designed smart phone ever made.
not every review is going to be positive. and i wouldn't necessarily call 4 out of 5 stars a bad review.

It's still better than the Verge's abomination.

4 out of 5 is terrible tbh, phones are subjective and the main criticism for HTC phones is Sense... which I prefer to any other oem ui and asop by far, loved it since my touch pro

I wouldn't call it harsh. Here's their highlights and low-lights.
The battery and storage comment shouldn't really surprise anyone. So far,the camera's received mixed reviews with some reviewers being more impressed than others. I can see BlinkFeed being a "love it or hate it" proposition which is really in the eye of the beholder and everyone won't like it equally. The comments about scuffing are concerning. They loved the display and design which I think will be pretty much a universal theme.
Here's the review...
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/htc-one-review-50010439/

Blinkfeed is cool, when you like to read a lot of news and social things like Facebook, which i do often when i have job school
Camera is good, ok Lumia 920 beats it, but who cares. Its good, not negativ.
No need of expandable storage if you have 32 GB, in my opinion.

BarryH_GEG said:
I wouldn't call it harsh. Here's their highlights and low-lights.
The battery and storage comment shouldn't really surprise anyone. So far,the camera's received mixed reviews with some reviewers being more impressed than others. I can see BlinkFeed being a "love it or hate it" proposition which is really in the eye of the beholder and everyone won't like it equally. The comments about scuffing are concerning. They loved the display and design which I think will be pretty much a universal theme.
Here's the review...
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/htc-one-review-50010439/
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I kind of agree with all the points.
BlinkFeed is merely a user-preference, but ability to remove it should be an option.

Then read their xperia review and go mad.
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......also "Camera doesnt Impress", sounds more neutral than "Bad" to me, it's not a bad thing, it holds its own in most aspects of picture and video taking especially considering its stsbilisation function.
Actually I dont think any of those "Bad" points are really valid to potential buyers or the more tech savvy.

I think he is speculating about the black and scratches. I'm pretty sure his house keys are not made of gold (it's too soft and expensive compared to brass). Also, the black isn't painted on, it's anodised. I rate the review less than 4/5.

The camera might be a little gimmick but.. i wouldn't say 4 out of 5 is bad..Plus thats only one review.. im sure you not going to let one review be the deal decision maker for you.. i can only see myself taking a star away for the way HTC handling the release.. but that has nothing to do with the phone.. that's just bad PR

YoungAceAtlanta said:
The camera might be a little gimmick but.. i wouldn't say 4 out of 5 is bad..Plus thats only one review.. im sure you not going to let one review be the deal decision maker for you.. i can only see myself taking a star away for the way HTC handling the release.. but that has nothing to do with the phone.. that's just bad PR
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Camera is hardly gimmicky. Everything done is actually for good reason.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Camera is hardly gimmicky. Everything done is actually for good reason.
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If the camera isn't, the term "Ultrapixel" is.
It's not new at all. In fact, the N82 and N95 from over 5+ years ago had both larger sensors (~1/2.5) and larger individual pixel bins than the new flagship from HTC.

Narom88 said:
It's still better than the Verge's abomination.
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I know! And their comparisons were a load of rubbish as well!

Livebyte said:
I kind of agree with all the points.
BlinkFeed is merely a user-preference, but ability to remove it should be an option.
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I agree but at least you can tuck it away so out of sight out of mind.

hung2900 said:
If the camera isn't, the term "Ultrapixel" is.
It's not new at all. In fact, the N82 and N95 from over 5+ years ago had both larger sensors (~1/2.5) and larger individual pixel bins than the new flagship from HTC.
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Of course, but how else are you going to explain to "educated" consumers that 4MP is better than 13MP?

fernando sor said:
i have never seen this many positive reviews for an HTC phone. some are calling it the best designed smart phone ever made.
not every review is going to be positive. and i wouldn't necessarily call 4 out of 5 stars a bad review.
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It IS the best designed smartphone ever made. The previous title goes to the HTC One X in my opinion.

From what I've read, there's something symptomatic in CNET review: they put as a negative point the fact that the phone doesn't have SD card or removable battery, yet that point is never raised when they describe iPhone.