My Imagio won't pair with the factory hands-free Bluetooth in my 2010 Nissan Frontier. Everything goes fine until I enter the requested PIN, at which point the Frontier tells me "invalid PIN". I'm entering the correct sequence.
The phone pairs ok with our 2007 Nissan Altima, and paired mostly-ok with my prior 2007 Nissan Sentra, other than the annoying but tolerable delayed hang-up problem that has been documented by others.
Our LG phones pair fine with the Frontier.
HTC tells me it is a Nissan problem. I was able to talk with a Nissan Bluetooth specialist who told me my phone has not yet been tested for compatibility (nor had the LG's that pair ok) and "probably is not compatible". Finger pointing both ways.
The phone pairs ok with the Altima and other hands-free devices.
I think it is related to the Imagio Bluetooth stack implementation coupled with a not-totally-compliant Nissan interface. I suspect that the phone is sending the PIN data in some format that the Frontier doesn't interpret correctly.
Does anyone have any suggestions for diagnosing this or making it work? Maybe some sort of packet/frame monitor for Bluetooth that would let me view the data packets being exchanged?
Can the Imagio Bluetooth stack be replaced by one that is more compatible?
I'd really like to get this working...
Thanks,
Steve
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Has anyone had any problems pairing their X1 with any Nissan or Inifniti cars? There seem to be some mumblings on the web about their cars and WM6 devices and I've had no luck getting it to work on my '08 G35. Thanks.
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i just checked the aproved phone list for your g35 and the x1 is not aproved by infiniti. only certain phones will link to our cars others will not
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
it also depend if you both have navagation or not
elee888 said:
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
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I don't have the navigation so I just click the phone button, tell it I want to pair a new device, and have my X1 start searching. At least now I know it can be done. Thanks for the reply
Well... I do have the navigation. So maybe the pairing process is a little different. But it should work though, it even allows me to download the whole phonebook into the car. Something my other phones in the past did not allow me.
baashha said:
Managed to solve this now.
Of course both Merc & SE didn't have any good solutions.... so had to continue googling & XDA-ing... This is what I did:
i.) Jetware, as I posted earlier has been removed.
ii.) I still had the SAP Profile addition downloaded from one of the forums in XDA on.
iii.) Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD
the default is 5898764 (Decimal) which is "Telephone (Smartphone)" which you would think would work. Changed to 5374476 (Decimal) which is a normal phone.
iv.) Restarted the phone.
v.) Started the pairing process from the car - failed as per before.
vi.) Started the pairing from the phone, and they work!!
Now, they pair automatically as how they would before....
Ram
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this is how i got mine working with my pioneer deck.
here's the link to the SAP Profile he was talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=997872&postcount=166
hope this works for you.
which PIoneer do you have?
I have the DEH-P5900IB and a BT adapter, and i can't get my X1 connect.
All my previous phones worked fine.
it looks like the X1 won't let me pair without passcode, and the radio says Error.
Do you mind explaining exactly how you did it?
Thanks
i have the DEH-790BT.
what i did was after i changed what i mentioned above, then i set my deck to be able to be noticed by other bluetooth devices, then added it through my X1. After I added it through my phone it said successfully connected on my deck and the phone displayed it connected as wireless stereo and hands free. now the only weird thing was it was trying to connect as both the wireless stereo and hands free which seemed to mess with the deck, so I had to turn off my ignition and turn my car back on for it to actually recognize the connection fully. oh and the passcode if you connect through the deck to phone like I did it should be default '0000' but i would check your manual just to be safe, and if your connecting through your phone to the deck (which i haven't tested so I don't know if it works) you can pick your own passcode, which i suggest just making 0000 or nothing.
I have a problem also with my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
I can pair with my Nissan Qashqai carkit but soun dis very bad, and the caller on the otherside doesn;t hear anything.
Strangly, but try, when during a call i switch from carkit to phone and back (using the options in my carkit/buttons on stearing wheel) everything is fine!
Checking the internet learned me that this is related to the bluetooth stack (or settings) in WM6.1 (and 6.5 also)
So does anybody have any idea how to solve this, maybe by registry changes or maybe by even "downgrading" the Bluetoorh stack to 6.0 or maybe even 5.x.
Maybe it is also possible to replace the complete MS stack for an other stack?
Hey Folks!
Great work here... Coming from WM/Symbian/Blackberry I'll try Android for daily use now.
My actual only problem is, that my Hero won't reconnect with the bluetooth System MMI of my Audi A6. Pairing is fine, manually connecting works, but I found no way to automatically reconnect the Hero with MMI when I enter the car and turn on the ignition/engine.
Every other handset does this comfortable reconnect (Nokia E71, Blackberry Curve 8900, Palm Treo 750...).
Is this a problem of my Hero or of Android itself? Is there a workaround to solve the problem to get an automatic reconnect?
Thanx!
Tom
Maybe the problem with the Hero. I cannot connect the Hero to my BMW I-Drive at all.
My G1 connected to my alpine stereo fine, when it did a small microphone appeared on the stereo along with the bluetooth icon. The hero pairs, the bluetooth appears and the phonebook is browsable, however it doesnt display the mic icon on the stereo. I think this means it's not using the stereo to pick up voice. I need to test more.
It would appear that there is something different about the bluetooth stack on the hero. Which is worrying with it being a hybrid android build
There is definitely something different. My old G1 pairs and works flawlessly with my BMW I-drive. The Hero pairs but won't connect.
Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...
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Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...
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That's positive. Are your contacts on your SIM or straight from a Google account? Do you have the latest MMI?
I'm about to take delivery of an A6 with HDD 3G MMI with bluetooth and wondering what to expect.
I have some issues on Skoda Octavia as well. As Skoda/Audi/VW have some things in common, I thought to mention this.
Usually my Hero works fine, but maybe 33% of the times I cannot initiate a call from car bluetooth. It starts to make a call, but fails, on Hero I get some MMI error (have to write that down the next time I get it).
When the error occurs, I can still start a call from Hero and phone audio comes nicely through car bluetooth and stereo. It requires me to turn off the engine and turn it back on to get it working again, however, sometimes it will also start working by itself. Might be that if I initiate a call from phone, it will start working from car controls as well, but I cannot confirm that.
Ik works fine on my 2006 A4 MMI, and I did test it on my new A4 2009 Model coming in december.
No issues, both show contacts and auto connect.
Did you set the MMI device as "trusted"?
Automatic connection works fine with my Audi A6 4f MMI!
After a few seconds I have access to all Contacts through MMI.
No Problems at all..
Cheers, Otze
I just have a Motorola bluetooth/FM transmitter. It's not perfect, but what I have to do is turn the Hero's bluetooth on *AFTER* the Motorola unit is initialized. So maybe enter your car with the Hero's bluetooth off, turn on the car, then once the stereo's booted up, turn on the Hero's bluetooth.
It's a bit inconvenient, but it works for me.
Also, I suspect that when we get the Eclair update, our bluetooth will work better, as Eclair is said to finally include a bluetooth API (which has been missing from previous versions, as Google said they wanted to polish it up before releasing it to developers.)
Please, can somebody already having MR2 in X2 check availability of rSAP profile under bluetooth options? Thanks!
under the profiles tab they are as follows;
A2DP
HSP
HFP 1.5
Pan
Opp
AVRCP
PBAP
SPP
SEWP
GAP
GAVDP
GOEP
no rSAP
Thanks for quick reply
So it seems no improvement against MR1
Does anybody know whether some modifications/adds of Setup_BT_extensions.CAB installing BT profiles can make rSAP working?
Maybe similar *.CAB from an other device as HD2 can be installed? Ideas?
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What's the importance of rSAP profile?
I read the other day that the miss of rSAP cause problems on some Bluetooth audio wireless car kits.
My X2 works without a glitch on my 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer with a Parrot MKi9000 device. Also, the other day I've tried my X2 on a 2010 Audi A4 with original Audi factory Bluetooth wireless kit, no problems either.
Cheers.
Jolo_ said:
What's the importance of rSAP profile?
I read the other day that the miss of rSAP cause problems on some Bluetooth audio wireless car kits.
My X2 works without a glitch on my 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer with a Parrot MKi9000 device. Also, the other day I've tried my X2 on a 2010 Audi A4 with original Audi factory Bluetooth wireless kit, no problems either.
Cheers.
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Mitsubishi Lancer is NOT using rSAP (remote SIM access). It pair with you phone as a regular Bluetooth hands free - mean that even when paired, all phone calls are still received and pass thru your phone. rSAP is complettely different story and brings all new functionality and user experience. Via rSAP (google it if you want to go to more technical details) your phone "borrow" his SIM card ID to the car, transfer phone book, SMS and sometimes e-mails to the car so you can see/use them on your car main display/navi etc... and then phone itself switch off his radio and goes in stand by mode. What's the difference ? To make calls you are using car's external antenna, car's amplifier, and build in car audio system - as a result you get MUCH BETTER reception even in areas where network coverage is not good and CRYSTAL CLEAR sound. This is included (since 2005) in All premium quality cars/models of All car manufacturers. As example for sure is included in my Mercedes C-class (who is even "lower end" compared with E and S-class models). It is also included in BMW, Audi, Toyota (premium quality models only), Lexus, Skoda, WV (premium models and as an option for low-end models.
NOTE: rSAP Bluetooth kit is considered "optional" for Audi A4 as it adds premium experience - in A6 or A8 should be "standard" and included without need to order it as an option.
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Does anybody know whether some modifications/adds of Setup_BT_extensions.CAB installing BT profiles can make rSAP working?
Maybe similar *.CAB from an other device as HD2 can be installed? Ideas?
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I have already tried every .cab from HTC published here - unfortunately noone have worked :-(
Btw - same cabs have worked for X1, so I guess there are some differences in BT chip...
I would be also happy if someone find a solution...
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Mitsubishi Lancer is NOT using rSAP (remote SIM access). It pair with you phone as a regular Bluetooth hands free - mean that even when paired, all phone calls are still received and pass thru your phone. rSAP is complettely different story and brings all new functionality and user experience. Via rSAP (google it if you want to go to more technical details) your phone "borrow" his SIM card ID to the car, transfer phone book, SMS and sometimes e-mails to the car so you can see/use them on your car main display/navi etc... and then phone itself switch off his radio and goes in stand by mode. What's the difference ? To make calls you are using car's external antenna, car's amplifier, and build in car audio system - as a result you get MUCH BETTER reception even in areas where network coverage is not good and CRYSTAL CLEAR sound. This is included (since 2005) in All premium quality cars/models of All car manufacturers. As example for sure is included in my Mercedes C-class (who is even "lower end" compared with E and S-class models). It is also included in BMW, Audi, Toyota (premium quality models only), Lexus, Skoda, WV (premium models and as an option for low-end models.
NOTE: rSAP Bluetooth kit is considered "optional" for Audi A4 as it adds premium experience - in A6 or A8 should be "standard" and included without need to order it as an option.
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I understand. Thank you for your explanation.
One question: the Apple iPhone supports rSAP?
Cheers.
@Jolo_
I've heard from my friend that it was implemented with one of their last OS updates, so it's probably available on 3G and 3GS (not in original iPhone)
Anyone tested this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372529
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Anyone tested this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372529
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Yes, I have tested this - cab installs successfuly, car kit pairs with the phone (after enter 16 digit code) and then drops and phone says "Connection failed, try again when phone is ready" So nop - it didn't work...
Hi,
has anyone had any experiences with trying to pair an SII (mine's running 2.3.4 stock) with an up to date Bluetooth phone module in a VW group vehicle. These support RSAP (GSMIII prep) as well as GSMII (lUHV/AD2P). I've sucessfully got the phone and BT module to pair but not always cleanly. When the handset is pairing via BT the signal bar display is replaced by the NO NETWORK (circle with diagonal slash) on the phone. If the pairing completes before this changes back to the normal signal bars then the BT module shows the phone as paired but with no network (even though the phone subsequently connects back to the service provider). Just wondered if anyone had experience pairing SII phones with VW group bluetooth modules... (I've actually replaced the module on my car with the latest D series one (5N0035730D).
Any feedback/experiences appreciated.
I have a Passat and it works like a charm with all used firmware version of GT-I9100 up to several 2.3.4 stock roms. I use currently I9100XXKG3-I9100XXKG3-I9100OXAKG3.
Just make you SG2 visible in Settings-Networks-Bluetooth and search with car's multimedia unit for a phone. Car display will show you a code like 1111222233334444 which you need to enter in SG2 when asked for it. Be quick otherwise it is canceled. If you have success you will be asked 2 (!) times to confirm permissions. Look in notification bar. One for connect and one for address book (Sorry if keyword are not fit 100%. I do this from my memory).
Works like a charm!
I also use my SII with great success in my Passat CC with the rSAP solution. The radio on the SII is supposed to turn off as the car has its own cellphone integrated and only "borrows" the SIM card over BT. My phone show two BT icons when it is working, and the phone in the car uses a few seconds to register on the network after it gained control over the SIM card.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
thanks for the feeback.. Sounds like the sort of thing I'm seeing... I see two BT symbols too... sometimes with two little arrows pointing inward during pairing.. Still though, i get NO NETWORK on the BT unit unless my phone comes back online before the pairing completes. It would appear the BT unit i have has two RSAP modes but I've no idea what the difference between them is (you can flip modes from the car menus). Just wish I could get this working reliably.I can't figure out why its being so problematic when everyone else's seems to work fine. I've uplifted the RNS 510 f/w to 2764 and have the latest BT D series unit available. I guess I can try an alternative simcard and handset to see if its any different... if anyone else has any advice it's always welcome...
thanks anyways.
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I have a problem with pairing Bluetooth components.
In the smartphone we recognize the CarKit immediately and can then be connected via the PIN code smartphone side.
My problem is that I can't connect any other hardware to the CarKit.
Devices such as cash terminal, printer, or headphones are displayed in a list, but cannot be connected to the CarKit.
I despair. because I simply need certain components.
Maybe someone can give me a tip on how to solve the problem.
Have other car systems in operation where this is not a problem.
The Bluetooth hardware we recognized by the K1.
However, no connection can be made.
There is no possibility to enter the pairing code.
Why is this not possible with the K1?
What does reseller suggest when contacted for support
The seller says my devices will not be supported.
However, the devices are listed via BT.
(first photo)
However, there is no way to connect.