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Check it out. Amazing.
Its still not quite the instant on they were going for but its an improvement over Win 7 thats for sure
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Its still not quite the instant on they were going for but its an improvement over Win 7 thats for sure
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Looked fairly instant to me. Windows 8 booted in almost no time at all.
Had to get through his motherboard's POST sequence, though. That took ages.
Pretty good. I timed around 10 seconds from turn on to login screen on my Dell E4200 laptop that has 1.4 dual core, 2gb ram and 64gb ssd.
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That's not so impressive, my pc is faster (high end gaming pc + ssd), even with win7.
And his motherboard takes ages to spool up.
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mathijs727 said:
That's not so impressive, my pc is faster (high end gaming pc + ssd), even with win7.
And his motherboard takes ages to spool up.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk
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If I recall, he was not intending to impress, more to demonstrate the boot speed in general. See, some people don't have the money for a superfantabulousgamingssdrig like you. Though we all want it.
This is very neat, I got a chance to preview windows 8 in it's very early stages and I never got to boot it up. Actually, I tested it on a noname tablet that had about 8 different wires plugged in at all different angles. But still, very cool story bro.
I am not using a ssd disc and my Windows 8, in dual partition with Windows7, takes around 30 seconds in booting up, that is quite instant for me.
Once the pc pass BIOS sequence appears the Windows screen with dots rolling, a bit later appear the blue screen to choose Windows 8 or Windows 7, just after clicking the Windows 8 option appears the lock screen. Around 30 seconds in total.
Hello,
In the past few weeks I have been getting pretty excited about getting a nexus 10.
Mainly due to the large screen with its insane resolution.
I have been an android user since my first smartphone.
Currently I have a Galaxy Nexus and a nexus 7.
I love the 7. It has great portability and I take it outside often due to its small size.
I am however thinking about adding a nexus 10 to my gadgets because when at home doing mainly couch browsing, I wish for a bigger screen, especially to use chrome.
However in the last few days I saw that for just a bit more I can buy an ultra book with a 13 inch screen hard drive, 4 gb of ram and not too much weight.
On that price range the screen is just 1366x768, but for a 13 inch laptop it might be enough.
So, hanging on the fence here.
What should I go for?
Nexus 10 or ultra book?
Cheers
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I've been using a 13 inch Macbook Pro for a couple of years and am replacing it with the Nexus 10.
Having recently gotten a PC again, I've found myself using my Mac less and less. With a powerful PC, the only thing I really needed my mac for was for internet access on the go and so my mac had basically become a cumbersome internet machine - something that a tablet is far more suited to.
It all depends on what you want to use it for. I do photo editing, light pc gaming and lots of internet browsing. My PC can handle all of that and when I want to be mobile a tablet is a more practical option than a laptop. I wouldn't want to just have a tablet because of the things I do use my PC for, but if I was just internet browsing then I could probably manage with just a tablet.
If you want something for couch browsing, then why would you pay more for a laptop which is more cumbersome to use than a tablet? The specs on the ultrabook are fairly average, and if you're only planning on using it for things a tablet could easily accomplish, then you may as well save the money and buy the thing suited for the task.
I was in the same boat like you last week, i ended up buying a Asus Zenbook Prime for $1,030 with Window 8, can't compare a Android tablet to a full PC, now if you want both a tablet with a full PC i would look at something like this
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE700T1C-A01US
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ATIV-Smart-Pro-700T/dp/B0098O9TRO
BTW that thing has the same spec as my Zenbook but has a better SSD then my Ultrabook
Thank you for the replies.
Currently I just have my Galaxy Nexus and nexus 7.
I don't currently own a computer.
My wife has a laptop I use when I need to do something pc related like using the nexus toolkit and torrents and such.
But that kind of use is not too frequent.
I like android os as I use Google services and having everything in sync between the devices is a plus.
I use Tapatalk to browse the forums on the 7 and some apps like ebay and imdb for specific uses.
When I use my Nexus 7 at home I wish it was bigger. I find it strange bit cumbersome to use chrome with several open tabs and for more intensive Web browsing.
So the nexus 10 looks like an option to me.
I don't work with a computer at home. For Work i have the office computer.
So, my doubts:
- would a nexus 10 overlap my Nexus 7 and one of the devices become redundant?
- would the 10 inch screen of the nexus 10 be big enough to overcome the limitations I find on the 7?
- would an ultra book be more agile and faster?
- would an ultra book be comfortable to use without a table or desk? Just for couch surf?
Don't know which side to turn.
Cheers
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I dont know about this it might be dumb or you might end up challenging yourself but have you never thought of building your "own" computer, here is just one of million example, this is on the extreme side since its water cooled
http://www.overclock.net/t/1277018/build-log-first-wc-build-nzxt-switch-810-matte-black
You dont have to go crazy, this is my own pc, i built this back in February-March of this year
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So, my doubts:
- would a nexus 10 overlap my Nexus 7 and one of the devices become redundant?
- would the 10 inch screen of the nexus 10 be big enough to overcome the limitations I find on the 7?
- would an ultra book be more agile and faster?
- would an ultra book be comfortable to use without a table or desk? Just for couch surf?
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Ultrabook Cons:
If you buy a Windows 8 ultrabook now, you're going to regret it in a few months once Haswell comes out. You paying about $800 - $1200 (ultrabook - ultrabook convertible) for something that will last only about 4-7 hours. Wait about half a year and the Haswell chips should allow at least 7 hours of use.
Tablets would be far more comfortable on your lap. Also considering how ultrabooks have air vents, if you block a vent on accident, your ultrabook might end up frying itself. So I'd think ultrabooks are far more comfortable to use on a table or desk.
Ultabrook Pros:
Ultrabooks are far far far far more powerful than tablets. You can't deny it. An i5 or i7 processor will blow any other mobile chips out of the water. So the performance will definitely be more "agile and faster."
My recommendation is that you either wait for the Haswell chips to be used in Ultrabooks or just go with the Nexus 10.
404 ERROR said:
Ultrabooks are far far far far more powerful than tablets. You can't deny it. An i5 or i7 processor will blow any other mobile chips out of the water. So the performance will definitely be more "agile and faster."
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But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
The only thing I'm concerned about with the Nexus 10 is what the screen quality is like. No, not the resolution, the black level & colours. If it's anything like the Note 10.1 it will be very good imo.
Vertron said:
But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
The only thing I'm concerned about with the Nexus 10 is what the screen quality is like. No, not the resolution, the black level & colours. If it's anything like the Note 10.1 it will be very good imo.
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Had a wild idea today.
I can get a new ipad 4 for a sweet price of 400 euros.
The same price that the nexus 10 is supposed to cost from the play store.
Should I give the ipad a chance?
Or is the nexus 10 better?
How would the ipad play with my Android devices in the terms of syncing email, calendar, contacts?
Cheers
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
gdourado said:
Had a wild idea today.
I can get a new ipad 4 for a sweet price of 400 euros.
The same price that the nexus 10 is supposed to cost from the play store.
Should I give the ipad a chance?
Or is the nexus 10 better?
How would the ipad play with my Android devices in the terms of syncing email, calendar, contacts?
Cheers
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
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It depends if you can live with their walled garden eco system. But you do get more optimized apps and games.
I wouldn't get one personally. Android allows me to do almost everything I can do on my laptop. IOS is too limiting for me. I also don't like Apple, but that's another story.
Vertron said:
It depends if you can live with their walled garden eco system. But you do get more optimized apps and games.
I wouldn't get one personally. Android allows me to do almost everything I can do on my laptop. IOS is too limiting for me. I also don't like Apple, but that's another story.
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I used to use apple computers. Sold my latest imac this year.
I liked it more than windows.
Trouble free.
I never had a ios device.
But for what I use the tablet, I guess I could make do with an ipad, and the 4:3 screen is sweet for Web browsing.
And Google has a gmail app and chrome app, so I guess it would be doable.
I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, sell it.
Thoughs?
Cheers
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Vertron said:
But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
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Definitely. That is why the ultrabook is far more versatile and can become your tablet, laptop, computer, etc. But if you don't need Windows software, then you're 100% right. The money doesn't justify simple internet browsing and casual gaming.
gdourado said:
I used to use apple computers. Sold my latest imac this year.
I liked it more than windows.
Trouble free.
I never had a ios device.
But for what I use the tablet, I guess I could make do with an ipad, and the 4:3 screen is sweet for Web browsing.
And Google has a gmail app and chrome app, so I guess it would be doable.
I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, sell it.
Thoughs?
Cheers
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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I don't want to weigh in here too much since I don't own an iPad, but if you're not someone who likes tweaking things, the iPad certainly looks like the choice of your device. "Best user experience" is based on you. "Feeling walled in" to the ecosystem, while maybe true, certainly won't be a problem for someone who simply likes a trouble free device.
404 ERROR said:
Definitely. That is why the ultrabook is far more versatile and can become your tablet, laptop, computer, etc. But if you don't need Windows software, then you're 100% right. The money doesn't justify simple internet browsing and casual gaming.
I don't want to weigh in here too much since I don't own an iPad, but if you're not someone who likes tweaking things, the iPad certainly looks like the choice of your device. "Best user experience" is based on you. "Feeling walled in" to the ecosystem, while maybe true, certainly won't be a problem for someone who simply likes a trouble free device.
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I would probably prefer the nexus 10.
The problem is that Google does not sell it trough the play store here in Portugal.
So I will probably have to resort to some sort of tricks to buy one or will have to pay more than the play store price of 399 euros.
The ipad I can pickup the new 4 here with a company cuppon for 410 euros...
So the easiness of purchase makes me want to try the ipad.
If only google could come to their senses in regard to distribution of their products...
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gdourado said:
I would probably prefer the nexus 10.
The problem is that Google does not sell it trough the play store here in Portugal.
So I will probably have to resort to some sort of tricks to buy one or will have to pay more than the play store price of 399 euros.
The ipad I can pickup the new 4 here with a company cuppon for 410 euros...
So the easiness of purchase makes me want to try the ipad.
If only google could come to their senses in regard to distribution of their products...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
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Tbh I just can't get by the fact that ios won't let you change the default browser. Currently on my sgs3 I don't have a default browser so every time I click on something it asks me what browser I want to use. Also I like having a user accessible file system because it just makes downloading things like pdfs and such so much easier. I just wanted to throw this out there because I considered buying an ipad due to the gpu, but have decided not to due to the obvious os limitations.
gdourado said:
Hello,
In the past few weeks I have been getting pretty excited about getting a nexus 10.
Mainly due to the large screen with its insane resolution.
I have been an android user since my first smartphone.
Currently I have a Galaxy Nexus and a nexus 7.
I love the 7. It has great portability and I take it outside often due to its small size.
I am however thinking about adding a nexus 10 to my gadgets because when at home doing mainly couch browsing, I wish for a bigger screen, especially to use chrome.
However in the last few days I saw that for just a bit more I can buy an ultra book with a 13 inch screen hard drive, 4 gb of ram and not too much weight.
On that price range the screen is just 1366x768, but for a 13 inch laptop it might be enough.
So, hanging on the fence here.
What should I go for?
Nexus 10 or ultra book?
Cheers
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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It really depends on what your goal is and how much you are willing to pay.
Personally, the most action packed system on the market (soon to be) is as someone else mentioned Ativ Smart Pro. Here is quick list of why:
Ativ Smart Pro
+Full HD screen - I owned Transformer Infinity and have seen iPad 3 a few times. The screen resolution jump from regular screen i.e. iPad 2, or current android tablets to Infinity's full HD screen was big. From full HD to Retina display did not seem as much. But certainly, good to have high resolution.
+Wacom stylus - I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for little. Capative screen with just stylus is markedly different in accuracy and experience compared to inductive pen technology.
+ Real windows - The Windows store market is nowhere that of Android or iOS; however, when you add legacy windows applications, things totally change.
+ Keyboard dock - Can use as real ultrabook PC
+ Expandable memory - One reason I am really holding myself back from buying Nexus 10. This was one of the major reason I jumped from iOS to Android.
Major downsides
-Price $1200 - Considering this is real ultrabook PC, and high end tablet. If you buy both, it may perhaps cost similar but still a bit too expensive. Plus as stated below, the tablet experience may not be as perfect.
-Battery life - Listed 9 hours, but in reality it may be like 4-5 hours (rumor)
- Weight - Close to 1.9 lbs is a bit heavy for pure tablet.
Alternatively, Ativ Smart PC or other atom based real Windows 8 tablet may be a valid option. It has Atom processor i.e. slower than i5; however, longer battery life, lighter weight. However, it does not have Full HD. But cost is cheaper like $600-$700. It is atom underpowered for real full blown PC power i.e. you won't be able to play skyrim or high end graphics game, but still has Wacom stylus, MS office, and even sunspider benchmark is still faster than any other Android or iPad 4.
HoushaSen said:
Major downsides
-Price $1200 - Considering this is real ultrabook PC, and high end tablet. If you buy both, it may perhaps cost similar but still a bit too expensive. Plus as stated below, the tablet experience may not be as perfect.
-Battery life - Listed 9 hours, but in reality it may be like 4-5 hours (rumor)
- Weight - Close to 1.9 lbs is a bit heavy for pure tablet.
Alternatively, Ativ Smart PC or other atom based real Windows 8 tablet may be a valid option. It has Atom processor i.e. slower than i5; however, longer battery life, lighter weight. However, it does not have Full HD. But cost is cheaper like $600-$700. It is atom underpowered for real full blown PC power i.e. you won't be able to play skyrim or high end graphics game, but still has Wacom stylus, MS office, and even sunspider benchmark is still faster than any other Android or iPad 4.
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For $1200, I would much rather have a $400 Nexus 10 and a $800 ultrabook instead of one compromised machine. I really wouldn't recommend anyone to get a X86 tablet until Haswell comes out.
As an Android lover... if you're not interested in tweaking or customizing your device, and/or are not willing to put up with lots of workarounds and the like, get an iDevice. I'm sure android will eventually be just as polished with just as many tablet apps, but right now you'll need a thick skin and a love for the platform itself to want the N10 over a iPad4.
That said, there are certainly many advantages to the Nexus 10 for me and my uses, and I wouldn't trade it for an iPad in a million years. But if you care about a smooth experience, get an iPad.
Hi,
I've been trying out some browsers for my tab2 10.1 ... so far I'm using Maxthon HD which has the nice "quick back" feature which makes going back immediate... really nice feature
I used http://www.hln.be/index.html as testpage, it's a Belgian news site with a lot of pictures, adds etc.
In general opening this site takes about 10 seconds on most of the browsers (until it's fully loaded)... and here's the worrying part: a colleague of mine opened it in 5 seconds on his iPad2
I have flash "enabled on demand" and javascript enabled.
When I disable javascript the page loads in about 3 seconds but off course other sites require javascript so switching it off is not really an option I guess...
My question to you guys is now
1) how fast does the page mentioned above load on your devices
2) which rom/browser/settings do you use
Cheers
B
PS speed-wise the puffin browser scores best and matches the 5 seconds of the iPad...
berre said:
Hi,
I've been trying out some browsers for my tab2 10.1 ... so far I'm using Maxthon HD which has the nice "quick back" feature which makes going back immediate... really nice feature
<snippage>
My question to you guys is now
1) how fast does the page mentioned above load on your devices
2) which rom/browser/settings do you use
Cheers
B
PS speed-wise the puffin browser scores best and matches the 5 seconds of the iPad...
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Wars over who is bigger faster meaner only end in tears. There is always someone else out there who is.
However, using the stock ROM and browser (which is redirected to m.bln.be) the page loads in about 4 seconds (or two toe taps my personal measure). Loading the full site with it or Firefox takes about 12 (and five toe taps). Both browsers load plugins on demand (auto play video/audio is annoying) and I use ad block plus which may or may not be a factor.
have fun
Mine timed out after about 20 seconds - although I am using free wi-fi in a garage so have no idea how quick it is!
Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2
I don't necessarily want to be faster but both tablets have similar processor (1ghz dual core if I'm not mistaking ) so I wonder how the ipad2 can load pages 2x faster... is the processor really that much better?
My sister bought a tab2 10.1 for my brother in law and I flashed it with AOKP 4.1.2 Rom. It is slightly better now... But the user experience isn't near as an iPad.
This is not about hardware...
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Nothing to do with hardware. Its more to do with optimizations in software. Hardware in Tab 2 is better than iPad 2, however doesn't mean it is faster. IOS has web browsing optimizations that make up for the lack of flash etc.
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olyloh6696 said:
Nothing to do with hardware. Its more to do with optimizations in software. Hardware in Tab 2 is better than iPad 2, however doesn't mean it is faster. IOS has web browsing optimizations that make up for the lack of flash etc.
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About 4secs on my iPad 2 with Mercury browser.ive tried many browsers on my tab 2 but none of them is as quick and as smooth as my iPad 2.
Honestly, Chrome is the best. If you want flash, just use Dolphin as an alternative
loads in 0.7 seconds on my Samsung N530 with Chrome
The requested site is full opening in 4 seconds on Samsung Galaxy tab 2, 7'' with stock ROM and browser.
amonev said:
The requested site is full opening in 4 seconds on Samsung Galaxy tab 2, 7'' with stock ROM and browser.
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the full site or the mobile site?
cheers
b
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
Holysmoke99 said:
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
Death666Angel said:
No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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8" is too small to run windows in a desktop environment. I can hardly find my way around with big fingers. so then you need apps to make the tablet usable but then you remember win8 apps are non existent.
I agree with all - 8 inch is way too small for real Windows desktop. Android is perfect for 7, 8 inch tablets.
Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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I checked that today.
the Dell seem to be a nice tablet but 32gig is not enough for window 8.
for now I stick with window 7 on a old netbook and my n7.
woundedworld said:
Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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What are you talking about? Windows doesn't lack media options at all. In fact, it's one of the few platforms that can play basically everything. Even 1080p 10 bit h264 plays without dropped frames on a Dell Venue 8 Pro.
I have a Venue 8 Pro I'm playing with now, and I'm so tempted to switch at times. Metro performance is way ahead of any Android device in scrolling and loading. Metro IE is actually amazing fast and Chrome on desktop is about Chrome on Android. And despite running a full desktop and apps, it seems to keep programs in memory longer.
Unfortunately, while Metro app performance is really good, it's still seriously lacking in basic apps. There's basically 1 choice for IM outside of Skype. Only Metro apps have connected standby and get notifications when the tablet is asleep, so it's a major drawback. The virtual keyboard also doesn't seem to do any autocorrect on desktop, making typing a major pain.
I'm really torn. The 2 problems I have with it are major problems for me, but on the other hand, there's the performance and the ability to run basically any old program.
There's also a 64 GB version and microSD, so storage isn't that much of an issue.
No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I think it depends on what you want to use that tablet for. I agree with the others that the screen is too small for it to really be a productivity tablet, so then its more for consumables and I'd pick the higher resolution of the 7.
Rick
Holysmoke99 said:
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
I actually did the total opposite! I bought the Dell Venue Pro 8 and after a few days, returned it and picked up a N7, and I am very glad I did. The v8p is a very nice device, however I found that I prefer Android...and if one is using android then the N7 is boss!
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In case anyone hasn't noticed, Dell Venue 8 Pro will be on sale next Monday morning(Dec 9) for $99 at Microsoft Stores.
Just get both.
Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
ben00 said:
Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
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OP posted the price on Nov 26th and during the sale week of black friday, you responded 8 days later so ya.... I am sure there is most likely a price difference now on most items :laugh:
[TSON] said:
Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
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I am using this tool, no Bluetooth mouse is needed.
http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepointer/en-us/
I have to say after picking up the HP Omni 10 Win8.1 tablet, I've grown to prefer it over Android. I can actually watch any movie files and things just work and not in a limited way. Everything is smooth and no crashes...yet but it's still windows after all. Still have the N7FHD of course for app games and such.
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No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I have the venue 8pro. And a Nexus 7 2013.
Market penetration means nothing when it comes to personal use and functionality.
They are totally different devices.
Windows 8 isn't the best tablet os, but it's great if you want a portable device to do Microsoft work.
For regular use I prefer the Nexus because Android allows me to install
3rd party keyboards and I've grown accustomed to using SwiftKey. So for the Windows 8 tab my opinion is that the keyboard needs vast improvement if you're gonna use it like an android tab.
Speed wise venue 8 pro is not bad. I recommend getting the 64gb version cause 32 fills up fast!
-Wizzle
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
Holysmoke99 said:
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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player911 said:
Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Dell Venue 8 Pro runs Full Windows 8, not RT.
I have some trouble deciding between the Dell Venue 8 Pro 64Gb and Toshiba Encore, which one would you choose?
Dell Venue 8 Pro 64gb:
http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd
Black friday / Cyber monday sale at 329$.Which ends up at around 460$ when shipped to swedfen
- No HDMI out (which means no chargning and output to a monitor at the same time)
+ Lighter
+ Thinner
+ More accessories
Toshiba Encore
http://www.toshiba.com/us/tablets/encore/8?src=MAKP&cm_mmc=TAI-_-Home-_-TopNav-_-TabletEncore
Available in sweden, around 380$
- Only 32gb
+ Hdmi out
+ GPS
- Thicker
- Heavier
- Logo in wrong direction when using in portrait mode
Primarly I will use it surfing the web, watching hulu (in web browser) outputing to apple tv via AirParrot, as well as some Visual Studio and surfing when hooking it up to a monitor. But I will also use it as a Kindle-reader when reading in bed, so the weight is somewhat important.
If the Dell is more expensive then I'd say get the Toshiba. I have one, its a bit bulkier than the Dell but it has HDMI, windows button in normal location, battery is a bit larger.
The size of the Toshiba isn't something that bothers you? I am a bit worried of that myself. I have a Nexus 7 (2013) and an iPad Air and you get used to the thin form factor
32gb is the biggest problem with it though, that can't be room for much applications? I need to have space for Visual Studio at least as well as some metro apps.
dhanjel said:
The size of the Toshiba isn't something that bothers you? I am a bit worried of that myself. I have a Nexus 7 (2013) and an iPad Air and you get used to the thin form factor
32gb is the biggest problem with it though, that can't be room for much applications? I need to have space for Visual Studio at least as well as some metro apps.
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Its only 0.07" thicker than the Dell but is a bit heavier. Go with the Dell if thats an issue for you. My old tablet was a bulky HP Touchpad so anything else feels lighter. If you are going to install a lot of programs go for a 64Gb one. I have a microSD that I can install stuff to but r/w speeds will be better with the internal drive. Also metro apps will only go on the C drive.
Anything that costs that much for shipping is not worth it
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