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Hello xda, as ive seen all the buzz of windows 8, i thought id download the windows 8 dev preview and check out what the fuss is all about. so i downloaded the 64 bit version (i dont know if this has anything to do with it) but i launched it in VMware 8, installed it and got it running. now in VMware it was a bit sluggish due to my overclocked i5-760 at 4Ghz/Core, and my 4 gigs of ram, but was able to use it and see the visuals. it does look nice, i like the whole "tablet" menu to swipe between different applications and windows, but for a PC, i would not use it as it seems more for portability, that is if they don't release a more "desktop friendly" version. Which brings me to my next question, i have a dell XPS (m1330) its got a core 2 duo at 1.7Ghz and 4 gigs of ram, do you think that bad boy would handle windows 8?
I'm running windows 8 on viewpad 10 1-6ghz CPU and 2ghz memory runs fine so u should have no problems
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running it on a 6 year old pc...nuff said
I installed it as a dualboot on a dual core AMD with 4gb of ram and it runs like it should do smooth and everything is working.
I'm still exploring a bit but i must say metro interface is good for a tablet but not as regular pc. Now it would be nice to make a tab and phone communicate flawless with eachother but hetime wil tel.
At first a bit getting used to but now i can say :
Cant wait for final release.
Keep it up devsto make it run.
Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
wow, impressive, thanks guys installing it now!
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Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
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this is a dev preview, so i wouldnt use it as a main os just yet, id wait when beta or RC comes out.
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Should i install Windows 8?
I have Windows7 on my 6 Year old Pc..
Can i upgrade?
Cause i have Very Important things on my Pc , and no USB STick XD
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This is a developer preview. There is only one reasons why anybody might want to install it:
You are a developer and want to develop metro UI apps.
I know that there are also people who are interested in trying out the new UI and nobody can stop them from using it, but then most people (and developers as well) install it either on a second machine, a virtual machine or use another HDD.
The thing is that Windows 8 is still pre-Beta so it might cause problems or lead to data loss. You should not use this preview on your main machine and definitly not upgrade your main machine to it without securing the data.
That said, windows 8 uses less resources than Windows 7, so if your PC is really slow with Windows 7 Windows 8 MIGHT improve this a little bit, but better wait for Windows 8 to RTM.
Currently using it on my Asus Pc Slate & the experiences is good, though installed as a VHD to produce dual boot for window 7 & win 8 dev build.
I am using Windows XP Professional on my 2GB 1.66 GHZ machine..Whether I can go for Windows 8..??
I am a developer and I make Android as well as some web apps..I am really bothered whether upgrading to Windows 8 will affect eclipse or xampp..
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core 2 duo at 1.7Ghz and 4 gigs of ram, do you think that bad boy would handle windows 8?
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It will work without problem.
I am running it on a VMware, and frankly, hate the Metro UI. Don`t find it appropriate for a desktop. I sure hope that in future builds there will be a userfriendly option to completley deactivate it.
it looks cool, but not for laptops or pc's
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it looks cool, but not for laptops or pc's
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Well, its just matter of get use to it...
Windows 8 has the same system requirements as Windows 7 (actually lower). Microsoft did a great job optimizing the core of the OS.
As far as using it as your Desktop OS, well. the Desktop is still there, the big difference is in the way you launch your desktop applications. with Windows 7, you typically use the Start Menu or pinned items on your taskbar. In Windows 8, you either use the Start Screen, pinned items, or you can use search--click on the Start button and begin typing. it's that easy.
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running it on a 6 year old pc...nuff said
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Don't lie! You got this on Gizmodo, huh?
I'm actually surprised by how well metro ui worked for me. I was skeptical about the whole tiles on laptop/desktop thing, but after a few minutes of fiddling around, I was able to use it quite efficiently without too much issue during work. Am quite satisfied with it, again, to my surprise.
I don´t know why the people think that´s not good for Pc. In my opinión the interface is better for Tablet and for PC too. It´s only matter of habit.
Why is better look for a progam in a List? I prefer see the shorcut on the desktop with a good look (Windows 8) and no like old shorcuts on old desktop (Windows 7).
Of course the widget are better, and the desktop look great. This is only a pre beta version and is neccesary improve.
Good luck
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Don't lie! You got this on Gizmodo, huh?
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dell ispiron 1405
that's 6 years old and windows 8 runs excellent on it
Running on my Acer Aspire 4736G, dual-booted... 10 seconds boot is so nifty but ****... Microsoft trying to cheat us by hibernating the com instead shutting down?
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I have decided to buy a Samsung XE700t1a for my birthday to replace my aging original Acer Aspire One netbook. I know the Samsung comes with Windows 7 and it is possible to install the developers test version of Windows 8 on it. I do however have a few questions and as there is no forum section for the Samsung XE700t1a, ill have to ask here!
1) As Windows 8 hasnt officially been released yet, If I install it, will I be missing drivers/functions? Is it better to use Win7 until Win8 is released?
2) Does anyone know if its possible to replaces the 64GB/128GB SSD harddrive in the Samsung XE700t1a with something bigger in the future?
3) Is it possible to buy HDMI --> VGA adaptors? (the samsung comes with HDMI, but my university uses VGA cables for projectors) and will Win8 support this at the moment or will I have to wait?
4) Have I been a complete n00b and is there a better tablet out there? (was going for the acer Iconia, but the hardware in the Samsung is just better! I want it to last a good few years like my netbook has)
I cant wait to use Win8 as i have been using WP7 on my HD2 since it first came out! Cant wait to have a tablet that looks like my phone!
Realistically, you're better off waiting at this point until proper Win8 tabs are released around Q4 this year. Hardware, specs, battery life etc will all likely be better than any current W7 device.
1) Samsung has their own guide to installing W8CP on their site: http://www.samsung.com/global/windowspreview/ so it should mostly work. But don't forget, W8 is still BETA, therefore there may still be problems with the OS...
2) Yes, but it isn't easy or straightforwards see here
3) Jeez, learn to google! Yes, but it won't work for rights-protected content like movies.
4) Yes the Transformer Prime Infinity
Seriously, if you want a Win8 tab, you're better off waiting...
With Win 8 CP built in drivers, and the couple of new ones on the Samsung site that was linked, everything works great. The only thing that does not work is the Wacom digitiser driver for the pen..no biggie for me at the moment, personally.
It all depends what what you are looking for. Win 7 works great on the slate. Maybe you should consider dual booting until you decide? Certainly do not delete the recovery partition...that that way if you don't like it you can go right back to Win 7 with no drama.
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twisticles:
Thanks for you quick reply!
1) I was using W7 and WP7 well before they were released, im happy to put up with bugs and glitches
2) Thanks for the link, Im hoping to buy the 64GB version and put something alot bigger in it
3) Google doesnt work in China, so thanks for checking for me. I dont need to watch movies, just show my powerpoints
4) Thanks for the heads up with the Transformer Prime Infinity, It looks really nice! I think I prefer the idea of a whole PC inside a slate and as the Samsung is upgradable it should last for another 5 years like my netbook did!
jasonkruys: I saw in your signature that you have the Samsung that im looking at. How have you found it? W8 problems? Office 2010 problems? Tested any games?
Many Thanks guys
Whats wrong with the Netbook , I also have one but I got rid of W7 it slowed the system down too much , try installing Kubuntu ,its lightening fast , I also have the Iconia (a500) , 2 completely different platforms (as is WIN 8) , you didnt say what you will be doing with it, my systems all have different uses!
The netbook i use while teaching at university, ive had since 2009 (it was 2nd hand then) I use it for Access and Excel with all the students info and scores. etc. I use powerpoint for my presentations, Media player for showing the students videos etc. Im running win7 ultimate on it with 1.5GB RAM. I love my netbook and the wife and I take it on holidays for net surfing and saving/uploading pictures from her camera, but Its getting a bit old, the hinges are getting little loose, the charging jack when plugged in, doesnt always make a charging contact.
So Im going to retire the little beast and give it to my wife as she will use it less. As I already have 8 computers scattered around the house, I would like something powerful that will last as long/longer than the netbook. I need it to do all of the above and more! I also would like it for surfing and playing at home and as a bit of a show-off-y gaget thats better than an iPad, as most people here in China only buy Apple products and Im very anti-Apple!
I liked the look of the samsung, the reviews were good, the specs will seem to last for a few years and win8 can be used as a "normal" OS for excel editting, but also as a tablet OS for showing off and "gaget-ing!"
Ive been using WP7 on my HTC HD2 for over a year now and have fallen completely in love with the idea for that on a tablet! I have also fallen in love with a tablet that can be upgraded to 8GB RAM, thats half of the RAM I got in my gaming rig here!
My birthday is still 2 months away, so wont be using the wifes credit card just yet!
So I did buy the Samsung XE700T1A. It arrived last week with Windows 7 which I quickly got rid of for Windows 8 CP x64 Version. Here is my thoughts:
1) Installing on USB via the Windows 7 USB-DVD tool was simple and quick. Windows 8 asked for my hotmail account and by the time the metro UI loaded, everything had been sync, like my WP7 phone
2) Windows 8 took me a day to get used to. I had to keep googling things, but a week later, I feel like an ol' pro. Its so easy and simple to use. I actually prefer it to Windows 7, but as none of my other machines have touch capability, I wont be swapping them over just yet!
3) All programs/games I used on Win7 went on to Win8 with no problems and run fine with two exceptions so far: Firefox isnt very touch friendly. When I try to copy a link from the address bar, I hold my finger down for right click, then press copy and instead of the address being copied, the right click menu disappears without saving the address. There are to work-arounds though; Use IE or the pen that comes with the slate! The other program was actually a game. Left For Dead 2 gives me a fatal error after the intro movie during the loading screen, but I have had that on friends Win7 laptops, so I dont think that is Win8 related.
4)Wifi power seems way more powerful. I live in an apartment complex and my old netbook would see 5 or 6 other wifi signals, my slate sees around 20-25 including signals that are across the road!
5) I fully charged the battery, then let is completely drain a few times and now im getting 9-10 hours (while playing civ5 over wifi) before I need to recharge it. Totally blow away by this.
6) The heat from the machine when playing games seems to be no more than my mates laptops. I recommend using the dock when playing games so the heat can rise vertically out of the top though.
7) Ive checked and its fully upgradeble. The shop offered to put 8GB RAM into it for me instead of the standard 4GB. They also said when the warrenty runs out, they will be happy to put a bigger SSD into it too, and as the CPU seems to be a quad-core (Aida 64, CPU-z and even win8 task manager show 4 seperate cores) this should last me for a good few years!
Here are some pics of it in action:
http://www.quiba.co.uk/pc/images/xe7001.jpg
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All in all, definatly worth buying and even with this Beta version of Windows 8, things can only get better. At this point I feel win8 is safe enough to use on a day-to-day basis at work and from next week, I will stop taking my netbook. I really feel that using Windows 8 without a touch screen is wasting alot of the advantages and power that win8 has. Maybe thats why alot of people still havent been taken by it yet?
I didnt mean this post to turn into a mini review and I am biased towards it, so sorry for that!
Hey, the Samsung XE700T1A, how long did it last?
is there any difference in battery life from W7 to W8?
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Hey, the Samsung XE700T1A, how long did it last?
is there any difference in battery life from W7 to W8?
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Read point 5... playing high graphic games, i get about 6-9 hours. Wifi/internet browsing, im getting around 15-18hours
my friend i think a few things you told here are a Little bit crazy
i have the Samsung slate for 4 month now (since 29.february running Window 8)
the Maximum of battery life are around 5-6 h. when you play games you will have only 2-3 h left.
so i don´t know if you have a BRANDNEW Slate with a new Kind of fuel cell inside but it´s totally impossible to get 9-10h
"5) I fully charged the battery, then let is completely drain a few times and now im getting 9-10 hours (while playing civ5 over wifi) before I need to recharge it. Totally blow away by this.
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it only have a 5.520 mAh battery.
every new ultrabook with ivy Bridge (20% less battery drain) has only enough battery power for 7-9 hours! (and they have more than 6000 mAh)
and the cpu is not a quard core. it´s a normal Intel i5 (2nd generation i5-2467M) you got 2 cores (4 is the number of Threads)
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the Maximum of battery life are around 5-6 h. when you play games you will have only 2-3 h left.
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and the cpu is not a quard core. it´s a normal Intel i5 (2nd generation i5-2467M) you got 2 cores (4 is the number of Threads)
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Thanks for the clearing up over the core thing, I was confused by the four "cores" shown in AIDA 64, CPU-z and task manager, however that makes sense now.
As for the battery, I cant explain it to you. Saturday I was at the In-laws house and as they dont speak English, normally I am left to my own devises. I played Civ 5 for more than 6 hours, then after we went home, I was watching the England cricket on it via wifi, then finally played Plants vs Zombies on it and had to turn it off around 2am as it was warning me that the battery was at 10%.
I have learn from running my computer business here in China that, if you correctly "setup" a new battery they last a lot longer. I did what Samsung suggest in their manuals and charged it to full, then played until it turned its self off. After repeating 3 times, It will last a really long time. Let me fully charge it and Ill up load a screen shot later.
Thanks for the help with the cores though!
Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
what do you mean fast boot? my computer boots in roughly one minute, not 20 seconds. as for everything else I have no idea haha
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Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
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of course only being 0.1 version number of a difference MUST mean its almost identical
Unfortunately back in the real world there is a huge difference in the OSs, its not just a case of a reg edit here and there or moving a few files around, the OS has had sections changed to improve boot times and more importantly its has had extra code added to take advantage of newer hardware functions esp around the BIOS.
ive been using it as a desktop for quite some time now and its productivity once you get the hang of it is a significant improvement over Win 7, a more sensible approach to your problem is getting over yourself, ignoring the mountain of FUD on it and learning how to use it, I think if you went in to it with an open mind and put the effort in to learning what its all about rather than complaining about it, it would place you in a more fortunate position of being better off all round, without trying to reinvent the wheel
anyhow, if you choose to attempt the "port" yourself then I wish you good luck.
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Hi everibody
I' m not the only one who thinks that Windows 8 isn't suitable for desktop users, so Windows 7 will probably survive for years.
On the other hand I can't deny that W8 offers some very useful advantages. In my opinion the best one is the fast startup: with this feature the PC is able to boot in less than 20 seconds. I was wondering if it's possible to port the hybrid boot on Windows 7.
I think it could be possible because Windows 8 is officially numbered as the relase #6.2, and Windows 7 is the #6.1, so I think they have a lot in common..
So sorry if I am propbably posting it in the wrong session but I don't know where the right place is..
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If you use the machine every day, why don't you just put it in sleep mode? The start-up is almost instantaneous, especially if you have a SSD instead of HDD. My convertible gets restarted or shut down once every 2 weeks, if that, and I've been doing it for almost 3 years now since I first got W7.
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If you use the machine every day, why don't you just put it in sleep mode? The start-up is almost instantaneous, especially if you have a SSD instead of HDD. My convertible gets restarted or shut down once every 2 weeks, if that, and I've been doing it for almost 3 years now since I first got W7.
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agreed, I used to sleep on my win 7, and still do now it's 8, even on a HDD, its still almost instant load times, my reboot counter hit nearly 3.5 months without reboot so it has minimal impact
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of course only being 0.1 version number of a difference MUST mean its almost identical
Unfortunately back in the real world there is a huge difference in the OSs, its not just a case of a reg edit here and there or moving a few files around, the OS has had sections changed to improve boot times and more importantly its has had extra code added to take advantage of newer hardware functions esp around the BIOS.
ive been using it as a desktop for quite some time now and its productivity once you get the hang of it is a significant improvement over Win 7, a more sensible approach to your problem is getting over yourself, ignoring the mountain of FUD on it and learning how to use it, I think if you went in to it with an open mind and put the effort in to learning what its all about rather than complaining about it, it would place you in a more fortunate position of being better off all round, without trying to reinvent the wheel
anyhow, if you choose to attempt the "port" yourself then I wish you good luck.
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Windows 8 is not hard to use at all, even on a desktop. Instead of complaining, crying and moaning over small things, people should try to learn.
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Mostly I hate the fact that there is no aero....
Aero is a number of things, the core of which is the desktop compositor, which is very much present in Win8 (in fact, unlike Win7 and Vista, you can't turn desktop composition *off* in normal operation). Similarly, several other "Aero" features such as "Aero Snap" and "Aero Peek" are still present as well. What I presume you mean is that there's no window border transparency (you may note that the taskbar is still transparent...). There are a few hacks that try to add that back in, with varying degrees of success. Personally, while I agree with you that it's annoying to lose this option, it's really not that big a deal to me. The ability to see a blurry version of the window behind my foreground one was useful on rare occasion, but more often it was simply eye candy (which is admittedly a nice thing to have).
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but more often it was simply eye candy (which is admittedly a nice thing to have).
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mhmmm eye candy.......
But more seriously. Whether it looks good or not is user preference. I quite like the appearance of windows 8, but if I was one of the design team I probably wouldnt have bothered changing it (nor opposed it).
Same ****, different transparency. Whoop-de-f***ing-do. Can be hacked back into existence but I really cannot be bothered.
Yes sleep is the way to go. Another option would be to downgrade to Win 7 Starter - my netbook boots very fast with that.
It's possible to run Windows 8 on Android with all multitouch and other tablet features! Check this video. Cool?
I think it's a great way to play with Windows 8, without throwing money on a new expensive tablet. And even better it's possible to use additional Android features like Android voice text input on Windows.
Windows 8 running on Samsung Galaxy Tab tablet and Android!
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Not even close. This is just spam.
@decatf u no understand cloud computing?
Does user really cares how and where it runs? No, the most important part is that it allows to use Win 8 on the tablet. Even more, use it with all the multitouch and tablet stuff like a normal Microsoft Surface, but with the PC power.
This is not Windows 8 running on the Samsung Galaxy Tab. This is nothing more than a remote desktop.
Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?
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I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?
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The ones who have been looking to run arm Win8 natively on the tablet. You should rename the title of your thread to something more appropriate like running Win8 with remote desktop or in a "cloud" though technically its not a cloud.
Interesting read.
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Why does it matters?
It's slow, first of all... You can clearly see the lag in windows animation, and don't even try to watch an animation with remote desktop, it's unbearable!
And, you NEED another computer/server to work it... So, this mean getting at least the hardware required, plus the licenses. Which would mean spending more than a Windows 8 tablet that would run smoother and natively.
Remote use is useful in small bites
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Technically you are correct, Windows is running on the server and tablet is just a client.
Though by "running" I mean one way of using Windows 8 on an Android tablet. And it might even be one of the best ways of using Win 8 on a tablet, because of a performance, battery efficiency, extra features and how easy is to set everything up. Yes, it has some trade-offs, it requires a fast connectivity and UI fluidity depends on connection.. but still it's a valid way of using Windows on a tablet. Even more advanced way, because all the latest and greatest technology moves to remote computing so called cloud.
I wouldn't underestimate it because of that it doesn't technically run a tablet itself.. who really cares?[/QUOTE
I use my Tab to run Windows XP when I am away from my office for a few hours. Using a blue tooth keyboard makes it pretty usable but having used Win8 I can definitely see where it would be easier with a touch screen. But it's not like being in front of the local OS. I also don't find Win8 very much fun without a touch screen anyway. I doubt anyone will get it to work natively on a Tab. So you are both right. It's not like being there but it's useful in small bites.
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Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.
Splashtop 2 updated its gestures to match Win 8. Pretty awesome since animations are almost seamless compared to remote desktop.
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Another thing that even $500 Microsoft Surface doesn't run any of standard Windows apps (only crap apps for Metro). And a full featured Surface Pro is super thick, heavy and even more insanely expensive $1000.
So it turns out that Windows 8 through remote desktop is one the best options for those, who want full featured Win 8 on a tablet.
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Or you could buy a x86/x64 tablet and run it natively, for less...
Not even possible.. windows 8 is not an open source..
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You do realise most x86/x64 tablet would come with Windows 8 already installed?
The main conscern exists: You have to pay for either a computer or a "server", for the nescessary license and you still won't be able to play videos or have a "lag free" experience like if you'd get a Win8 (with an intel atom or a core i3) and run every thing natively
Cool
I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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I had done the same thing a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool , here how it works on my galaxy tab , I also have a video with it on my nexus 7 but that was before I worked out a few of the lag bugs.
I've also tested it off my local network and it has about the same performance since the bandwidth used by spashtop peaks around 250kbps this is ideal for goofing off with and having the feel of windows 8 on an android tablet. and I was able to verify that the multi touch works with 10 points ( not sure about any more only have ten fingers )
http://youtu.be/zYVPq_zUBWE
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Its pretty lag free , for the most part . but when I first installed it, it was very sluggish. after adjusting the the cpu speeds on my tablet it started running smoother, just crank your minimum tablet cpu speed up to about 500mhz and it gets rid of most the lag, then on the virtual machine give it as much ram as you can , in this video I gave the virtual machine 4 cores and 2gb of ram , but I'm now running it with 6gb of ram its about as smooth as butter.
I'm an IT professional and was on site today at an office I work with that has an IT guy that works full time there and I was " Showing him my new windows 8 tablet " and he used it for about ten minutes before saying wait a minute I though this was supposed to have a kick stand in the back, then I came clean with him and he thought it was running natively , Fun fun ....
Shawn
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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No. The resolution is too low, 8" is slightly too large for most of my pockets and I don't miss Windows 8 applications while I'm on the go. I have an 11.6" 2in1 convertible tablet with a digitizer for my work related stuff and my Nexus 7 is purely for entertainment and consumption. For that, Android is well enough and the pros it has far outweigh the cons for me.
Now, if the Dell had HDMI/DP output, full sized USB ports, a normal SD slot or at least a 128GB SSD and a digitizer with a quad core Kabini, that might have swayed me.
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8" is too small to run windows in a desktop environment. I can hardly find my way around with big fingers. so then you need apps to make the tablet usable but then you remember win8 apps are non existent.
I agree with all - 8 inch is way too small for real Windows desktop. Android is perfect for 7, 8 inch tablets.
Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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I checked that today.
the Dell seem to be a nice tablet but 32gig is not enough for window 8.
for now I stick with window 7 on a old netbook and my n7.
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Also, media consumption isn't where it should be on windows tablets, yet.
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What are you talking about? Windows doesn't lack media options at all. In fact, it's one of the few platforms that can play basically everything. Even 1080p 10 bit h264 plays without dropped frames on a Dell Venue 8 Pro.
I have a Venue 8 Pro I'm playing with now, and I'm so tempted to switch at times. Metro performance is way ahead of any Android device in scrolling and loading. Metro IE is actually amazing fast and Chrome on desktop is about Chrome on Android. And despite running a full desktop and apps, it seems to keep programs in memory longer.
Unfortunately, while Metro app performance is really good, it's still seriously lacking in basic apps. There's basically 1 choice for IM outside of Skype. Only Metro apps have connected standby and get notifications when the tablet is asleep, so it's a major drawback. The virtual keyboard also doesn't seem to do any autocorrect on desktop, making typing a major pain.
I'm really torn. The 2 problems I have with it are major problems for me, but on the other hand, there's the performance and the ability to run basically any old program.
There's also a 64 GB version and microSD, so storage isn't that much of an issue.
No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I think it depends on what you want to use that tablet for. I agree with the others that the screen is too small for it to really be a productivity tablet, so then its more for consumables and I'd pick the higher resolution of the 7.
Rick
Holysmoke99 said:
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229 now at Walmart. I so appreciate the roms here but sometimes wonder if Android is too limited.
I hate Windows 8 and avoid it on my desktop. I run win 7.
Sometimes websites just dont work well on android and flash is always a problem.
Would you return your Nexus 7 2013 for an even exchange of a Dell Venue 8 Pro?
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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
I actually did the total opposite! I bought the Dell Venue Pro 8 and after a few days, returned it and picked up a N7, and I am very glad I did. The v8p is a very nice device, however I found that I prefer Android...and if one is using android then the N7 is boss!
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In case anyone hasn't noticed, Dell Venue 8 Pro will be on sale next Monday morning(Dec 9) for $99 at Microsoft Stores.
Just get both.
Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
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Where is it for 229.00 I see it in Wal-Mart for 269.00
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OP posted the price on Nov 26th and during the sale week of black friday, you responded 8 days later so ya.... I am sure there is most likely a price difference now on most items :laugh:
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Unless you're comfortable with an external bluetooth mouse you're not going to want a Venue 8 Pro. Desktop applications + touch screen Win 8 =
Trust me, I have a touch screen laptop. You use the touch screen for Metro apps. the occasional scrolling/zooming, and that's about it.
EDIT: but for $99...
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I am using this tool, no Bluetooth mouse is needed.
http://www.lovesummertrue.com/touchmousepointer/en-us/
I have to say after picking up the HP Omni 10 Win8.1 tablet, I've grown to prefer it over Android. I can actually watch any movie files and things just work and not in a limited way. Everything is smooth and no crashes...yet but it's still windows after all. Still have the N7FHD of course for app games and such.
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No way. I'd get one of the Galaxy tabs. If only for the reason that the Windows devices don't have much market penetration, and they are not at least semi open source like Android. Fragmentation has become less of an issue in my opinion as Android matures.
I just read an article yesterday that Windows 8 use dropped, just a tiny amount, while Windows 7 went up a bit.
Windows tablets will be like the Windows media players. While working well enough for purple who prefer them, their numbers will plateau at a fairly low percentage while the numbers for Android/iDevices will go up. To me that matters.
And I like Android, a lot.
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I have the venue 8pro. And a Nexus 7 2013.
Market penetration means nothing when it comes to personal use and functionality.
They are totally different devices.
Windows 8 isn't the best tablet os, but it's great if you want a portable device to do Microsoft work.
For regular use I prefer the Nexus because Android allows me to install
3rd party keyboards and I've grown accustomed to using SwiftKey. So for the Windows 8 tab my opinion is that the keyboard needs vast improvement if you're gonna use it like an android tab.
Speed wise venue 8 pro is not bad. I recommend getting the 64gb version cause 32 fills up fast!
-Wizzle
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
Holysmoke99 said:
I hated the Venue 8 pro so much that I returned it hours after purchasing.
Windows on an 8" screen is such a joke. Metro apps are such a joke.
Windows is for large monitors. Android is for small screens. :silly:
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Yea. Windows RT isn't even full windows. Just a few Microsoft mobilized apps and some apps.
I honestly see using an 10" iPad or Android Tab for normal use, and remote desktop into a Windows 8 PC for business.
I do this now and its great. 1 PC at the office and I can manipulate my files and email them out all from my couch or hotel room. Sure its not going to allow graphic artistry or anything crazy, but Office and Email is perfect. I can operate our ticketing application with ease.
With this method you get the best of both. A solid mobile OS with tons of development and entertainment, and Remote Desktop for work stuff.
You can't remote desktop into an Android or iOS device.
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Dell Venue 8 Pro runs Full Windows 8, not RT.