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Nice job... Telenav
Enjoy...
Sorry, before I execute this CAB,,,, what is it? Like a TomTom GPS thing??
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
lbarouf said:
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
Pay by the month for use? No thanks I will stay with Igo that way I will not incur any data charges plus monthly usage.
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
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I run on many different providers ranging from T-Mobile, Telefonica and others. I have an HTC branded Athena (Advantage/X7500). Runs fine, as long as you create an account with them. I don't mind the premium since the maps are precise, up-to-date.
Review of TeleNav
OK, downloaded, put in my credit card (have until 8/11 to cancel) and... WOW!
Pros:
Very nice feature set. Best implementation of searches for points of interest that I have seen; makes GoogleMaps look downright clunky! One of my favorites was search for lowest gas prices. Can also search for restaurants by type, just by clicking. And the results seemed very accurate. Really, really cool. And the fact that it is live means that you don't have to wait a year for updates.
Haven't tested the voice recognition yet, but a neat idea.
Nice big buttons. Hi-res maps. Attractive.
It is surprisingly responsive, even when on EDGE. Although I haven't tried an interstate at 80mph yet. This is a keeper... NEARLY.
Cons:
My biggest concern is the routing seems a little "creative". I did routes to about 10 locations near and far, and I would say it is comparable to Mapquest 2001. In one case, it inexplicably routed me through a subdivision rather than the direct route. Then I remembered... Mapquest used to give me that same stupid detour! In another, a 8-9 mile trip routed out at 23 miles! Maybe it's just the area I live in, but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it if I really needed to get somewhere in a hurry.
The only other gripe is that while the user interface is pretty, sometimes the menus are confusing. I would hit the Menu button and get a set of options that weren't at all what I expected.
Also, with MvRTrueVGA, there is a gap between the bottom of the app window and the bottom of the display where a little bit of the app below peeks through. OK, this is a hack, so I can't be too harsh about that. But wouldn't it be great...
Summary
Bottom line, this has the potential to be THE killer GPS app. It's not there yet, but I'm betting this will get better in the next while. I definitely plan to keep playing with it at least until August 11, in conjunction with GoogleMaps and/or iNav as a second opinion. I'd be interested about experiences others have had, particularly with routing.
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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Traffic really isn't an issue where I live. My only real beef is the routing. Otherwise, I would gladly give the $10/month... might anyway!
I've been wondering when someone would come out with something like this, but for me it's monthly fee is a deal breaker (or needing a data plan for that matter) because I almost never need/use GPS, so I don't want to pay $$ per month to use it once in a while...
Still I wish them luck and am glad to see them improving GPS.
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
When is 7 going to be made available? Do you know yet?
Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
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:-S You got me curious now....
I love the fact that when I'm on the road for a long period, people (family, friends, customers) can track me and get an ETA on when I arrive, since I put my routes in CopilotLive. Maps are rough on edges, POI are not as rich as many features. I love TeleNav and consider TeleNav Track for the bidirectional functionality. Will see when they realease for the Athena. It's the really the best navigation PDA around in my eyes. By that time, I hope Alk will release Copilot Live 7. Can you send a screenshot? PM me if needed, I wonder how you got your hands on it and when it's due for.
Cheers.
Hey how did you guys get telenav to find the gps on the x7500? It keeps telling me that it cannot find it and to seek a clear sky position.
Thx
i didn't not notice it requried data plan before installation.
now, how can i uninstall it? TeleSav is not shown in the 'remove program' list. :-(
BTW, i still love my tomtom application.
UK friendly GPS software.
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Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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I have tried another one, webraska. I find not as nice as Telenav, but very close. excellent coverage in UK, Whales, and France. On my last trip I used it and found it just as useful as Telenav. Check it out... Webraska. For my friends on the other other side of the pond.
Anyone happen to know if this version works on other PPCs? Telenav hasn't updated their other Windows Mobile versions in years.
There is a utility in Windows XP called "Dialer". You can configure it to use the modem connected to the computer to make voice calls. It is located in the folder Program Files\Windows NT:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ddocs/en-us/dialer_whatis_intro.mspx?mfr=true
In the past, I have used dedicated modems over land-lines to place voice calls using Dialer. In theory, wouldn't it be possible to configure this same utility to place a voice call with the wireless modem built-in to the Shift?
Does Vista include this utility? If not, couldn't it be easily copied from an XP machine to the Shift?
Why
the shift will inclue voice dialling out of the box so not much point to your suggestion but thanks all the same
according to some reviews there are NO Voice capabilities in Shift!!!
Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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thank you. yes voice and gps.
Hmmm. So when the official European HTC website, Shift section lists both the full Users Guide and Quick Start Guide && When neither mention the GPS or voice capabilitiels.
WELL
If they are included then HTC should re-write it's manuals.
i agree
and im sure they will update it now they have the full licence from the FCC to distribute the dev ice with voice capability
A little review to look at!
http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Oh yes he does but... look at the date the video review was done its about six months old it almost predates mmobile fones (lol) and the review is based on a very very early rom since this time gps has being confirmed which is not mentioned as it wasnt known back then and ohhh look htc have put the release dte back to january so who knows what there gunna change??????
yes it has gps 100%,but under vista with what software?
there is not clear until now.
for now use tomtom google maps or whtever in WM6 and once decent gps software is avaiable for vista get that instead!!
FCC approval is only for US market.
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Yes but if ur going too release something this good to the world is it not better to have approval in what will be one of the biggest buyers for the product.. it makes sense to me and 100% of computer devices i have have the fcc approval but i live in uk.
The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
If you read on Mobileplanet, they spec gps for the US Version but not for the european version. Is this true there fore we should wait for the US one?
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The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
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would u idiots for lack of a more meaningful word stop looking at the user manuals and what is online and look at a better source who says the shift has phone capabilities. i replicated snapvue on my athena. one of the options when u go to settings is phone where u choose ur profile, ring type, bands, etc.. like in settings/phone of say the athena. IT HAS A PHONE IN IT!! bangelboy even showed the dialer on his.
He's right, check out this video.
hollywould said:
He's right, check out this video.
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i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
Maybe
Pawel062 said:
i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
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Even bangelboy, if you check his website, was not sure that cell phone services would be part of the final production model, although he was hopeful that it would be. Yet, all HTC indications in all their documentation is that cell phone services are not included.
Yes, the hardware is there, but there are some problems, perhaps legal patent rights, that are stalling what we want the HTC Shift to perform. It might still be a case for XDA developers to work out.
I would be happy to have the assurance of your sources, as the evidence at this point seems not to be favorable. It is good for you that you have faith in your sources, but without ascertaining their veracity, out of the box, it is hard to believe the Shift is configured for cell phone service. Would you care to share your sources with us?
I already posted this in the Tmobile US HD2 section but just in case you're not looking there... Bing has added Voice Nav with turn by turn directions!
http://www.bing.com/community/blogs...05/11/updated-bing-app-for-windows-phone.aspx
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/bing-for-windows-mobile-now-has-real-navigation-features
It appears to work really well for folks in the US... other countries ymmv for now. This is a great FREE app for Windows Mobile! Now I don't have to buy CoPilot Live!!!!!
Yes yes yes!!!!
thanks this is great
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
eenbox said:
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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Never hurts to have a backup, and it does look very nice....
Its about time thougt that MS sorted our this US only BS, you cant compete if you dont actually have a working product.
sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France Still I use GMaps when travelling, it's just easier to handly then iGo and it has phone numbers etc. matching your destination.
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sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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Lol! Hopefully MS will continue to make improvements and add regions to the app... I'm very, very impressed with the new version and the voice input works very well for me... (I don't end my sentences with "have a nice day y'all" either , maybe the version you downloaded was corrupted, hehe).
have a nice day y'all!
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GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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I agree, but... A) this is free! B) I already own a GPS but no longer have to carry an additional piece of consumer electronics along with me. C) I have the (unlimited) data plan anyway so no downside for me in using it...
ymmv of course.
For those who can't find the download link it's m.bing.com/download
Hope this will be of interest for someone.
I'm Italian, and as other italian owners of nexus one with the beta of Froyo, today we found some news
First, no we can just speak for writing sms and email, when keeping pressed the search button still italian speech recognition desn't work, same when searching the web.
Second, finally now we have the google navigator, we can input the destination just speaking and works fine, we can also search the web for something and launch the navigator.
This is of course a great signal, because in my opinion if Google will be able to offer all the services that are already available for the USA customers in the others countries, then Apple will have some problem selling his next product.
Why spent 600 and more euros for a phone, that is of course well assembled and with good materials, while with 499€ you can get a phone that has much more features? The free navigator is a real killer features that we really missed.
Ciao!
Same for Germany
That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
Yup.
Canadians now have access to the full set of map features. Took long enough, but I am certainly grateful!
I'm actually surprised we (UK) got it before Canada.
Enjoy it though, it's great!
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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incorrect.
This has nothing to do with Froyo. One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?
khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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incorrect.
One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Incorrect as well.
Your phone running android 1.6 did not get the updates. Google simply modified their servers to allow Navigation in your region/country.
It has nothing to with updating the Maps version on your phone. If you are in a non nav region, you can see this simply by loading a map with directions in the USA and NAV will be available.
But you are right about is not being Froyo specific.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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Yes, Google Maps is the latest, 4.2.0.. And I haven't checked any options at all in the options, I actually didn't see any when I quickly looked. Only reason I used it actually was I was using a geocaching program which popped it up for navigating to a geocache so I let it do its thing.
FYI, this isn't a case of "geocache in the middle of nowhere" in case you're familiar with it, navigation to them can be tricky or wind up in the wrong spot. Nothing like that, I was actually leaving one place and driving to another one a few miles away and it was telling me to drive way out of the way down a narrow road then left into a closed gated community.
Later I was driving downtown and it suggested I turn into a 1 way street...
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I would say use it, with common sense. Just like any navigational software.
How's the navigation compared to other competitions such as Nokia's Ovi Maps and Bing Maps?
perhaps I have not expressed my idea very well. I thought that before releasing Froyo, Google wanted to make all services already available in USA, also in other countries. This make sense, because in Europe we missed this features, voice search, navigation, etcetera...
So why release Froyo without offering all the goodies also in other countries?
If Froyo will be released tomorrow I'll be very happy to enjoy the new software, but honestly I'm happy for the navigator totally integrated with the phone.
Guys, please post in appropriate threads instead of starting a new one.
Google Maps Navigation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698539
Speculation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696736
Let's help keep the forum clean and organized, which benefits everyone.
Thanks!
Hi
I have an HD2 running android. My contract is with Orange and i am on the panther 40 plan. Inclusive with that plan is Orange Maps, normally Orange maps is imbedded within the OS but as i got my phone from the carphone warehouse and it is now running Android I do not get this option Has anybody had experience with this? if so were you able to resolve it? is there an orange Maps .APK somewhere?
Please help....
Is there anything specific you want from Orange Maps that you can't get from Google Maps? Or is it that the data is included in your plan? If that's the case then running the Android version will probably not make any difference and you'll still use data regardless.
Bear in mind (as poo as it is) that they sold you a WM device with WM software, compatible with their network requirements. You simply may not be able to get an Android equivalent.
My only advice is to go and have a search round the Desire forum. They did package Orange Maps on that device, so it may be available in the forum. To be honest, I don't really fancy your chances though. Most people get rid of what's considered "bloatware" as soon as they can.
Good luck mate
Is there anything specific you want from Orange Maps that you can't get from Google Maps? Or is it that the data is included in your plan? If that's the case then running the Android version will probably not make any difference and you'll still use data regardless.
Bear in mind (as poo as it is) that they sold you a WM device with WM software, compatible with their network requirements. You simply may not be able to get an Android equivalent.
My only advice is to go and have a search round the Desire forum. They did package Orange Maps on that device, so it may be available in the forum. To be honest, I don't really fancy your chances though. Most people get rid of what's considered "bloatware" as soon as they can.
Good luck mate
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Hi John
Thanks the the quick response.
To be honest, I would probably never use it but as it is included with the panther plan I thought I might as well try it, no problems if I can't though ( I don't have a car ATM anyway )
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Hi John
Thanks the the quick response.
To be honest, I would probably never use it but as it is included with the panther plan I thought I might as well try it, no problems if I can't though ( I don't have a car ATM anyway )
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lol. No loss really then, which is good. I thought Panther had unlimited internet anyway (or as unlimited as they ever are!)
Just use Google maps - it's great, and comes with free satnav. I bet Orange maps doesn't go 3D with a 2 finger swipe
http://www1.orange.co.uk/orangemaps/download/index.html