wifi n type on hd2 - HD2 General

does htc hd2 supports wifi n type i heared it does via reg edit but if it does why it is not listed in the specifications like what is listed in nexus one specifications and how to test it

you can enable it in BsB Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

hoss_n2 said:
does htc hd2 supports wifi n type i heared it does via reg edit but if it does why it is not listed in the specifications like what is listed in nexus one specifications and how to test it
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Apparently it does, yes. You can enable it with a registry tweak, but it's also an option in BsB Tweaks, which is obviously easier.
I couldn't tell you why it's not listed. Maybe they ran out of testing time before the release deadline and decided to just turn it off instead. They could always give us a hotfix at a later date and call it a new feature
Who knows!
How to test it? Make sure you've got a wireless-N router and just test your speed on the phone with it on and off. It should be pretty apparent. (Obviously, it will make no difference unless you have a wireless-N router).

johncmolyneux said:
Apparently it does, yes. You can enable it with a registry tweak, but it's also an option in BsB Tweaks, which is obviously easier.
I couldn't tell you why it's not listed. Maybe they ran out of testing time before the release deadline and decided to just turn it off instead. They could always give us a hotfix at a later date and call it a new feature
Who knows!
How to test it? Make sure you've got a wireless-N router and just test your speed on the phone with it on and off. It should be pretty apparent. (Obviously, it will make no difference unless you have a wireless-N router).
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is the difference big in speed

hoss_n2 said:
is the difference big in speed
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I don't know - only got a g router

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know - only got a g router
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ok if any body knows please tell me as i'm afraid of doing this tweak

hoss_n2 said:
ok if any body knows please tell me as i'm afraid of doing this tweak
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Ive done the tweak and it has no adverse effects. I simply don't get any benefit as I don't have a wireless-N router.
Do you have one?

johncmolyneux said:
Ive done the tweak and it has no adverse effects. I simply don't get any benefit as I don't have a wireless-N router.
Do you have one?
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yes but my internet speed does not help mee do benifit of the n wifi

I will wait to be corrected but Wireless N offers much faster connection speeds - but only with your wireless router. If your bottleneck in Internet connection speed is your home based ADSL connection (which is normally FAR slower than any normal wifi connection - even a poor one) then you will see few if any benefits of Wireless N.
However, there are other factors and you may see more stable HD2-Router WiFi connections and greater range on connection - but if those were not previously problems then you may l see no advantage at all.
Some reports seem to indicate Wireless N on the HD2 uses more power on the handset - but that seems only to be implied rather than supported by any evidence at present.
Give it a try. The BsB software makes the Registry change for you and is easy to undo if you wish too.

I can confirm that after 2 weeks of testing the wireless N on the HD2, the speed is grater. I can notice the difference in loading times. I suggest you apply the tweak and don't worry, it won't cause any harm to your device.

lorin.bute said:
I can confirm that after 2 weeks of testing the wireless N on the HD2, the speed is grater. I can notice the difference in loading times. I suggest you apply the tweak and don't worry, it won't cause any harm to your device.
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thanks for the advice

it seems it cant detect my 5ghz router

Copying files across my wireless-N network seems much faster with this tweak on. However, I don't have any figures to back up my hunch.

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HTC Universal also supports fast Wi-Fi (802.11g)

Just saw this over at msmobile.com http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4853.html Is it true???
It doesnt work in my jasjar
didnt think it would......
Its ROM dependent if i am not mistaken.
UD.
Dont tempt the devol on that one: 802.11G on the Universal
universaldoc said:
Its ROM dependent if i am not mistaken.
UD.
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Hello everybody; For your information, i tried everything discussed in the forums to unlock 802.11G on the Universal (V1640 flashed to qtek 9000 french release), from altering manually the registry and clicking on the avaiable cabs whithout any success.
But i almost lost connection between my UNIVERSAL with my 108Mb netgear router in the process and could'nt revert back WITHOUT hardresetting the universal and reinstalling it from scratch.
So my advice would be to await lore precise info on that "may be embedded" feature without attempting anything in the meantime as your bound to loose some of the features of the universal.
Brgds, Arnaud
It worked on my JasJar, although at first it didn't want to reconnect. I'm not that it's any faster, but I think I'll leave it set this way.
**Can't get it to work after setting my wifi back to mixed and then back to G only, so maybe I was hallucinating previously. Sorry**
It doesn't work. I even tried it myself! I was sitting here switching my router from B&G to G-only and it would only connect when in B&G mode...
Why would they design hardware that could cope with 802.11b and g and then cripple the faster speed through software?
Surely this must be a hardware limitation that we'll never overcome? :?:
Unless maybe it's to preserve battery life. Would the g protocol require more battery than the b protocol?
If you check the chipset datasheet for the wlan you see that there isn't support for G. This is just a hoax.
End of hoax
ncruz said:
If you check the chipset datasheet for the wlan you see that there isn't support for G. This is just a hoax.
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Hum, this certainly makes sense and seems a final and reliable statement;
Adhoc (Arnaud)
Didn't work for me.
Didn't work also on my Dopod 900.
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adhoc said:
ncruz said:
If you check the chipset datasheet for the wlan you see that there isn't support for G. This is just a hoax.
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Hum, this certainly makes sense and seems a final and reliable statement;
Adhoc (Arnaud)
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The link is on the wiki, on the hardware part...
May have worked
I could not find the device under the same registry string as documented.
Found my wireless under tiacxwln1, suggesting the listed fix may relate to newer models may have a newer wlan card. My unit is a T-mobile MDA pro given to me around November.
Amended the registy settings and connected to a 54g router.
Did seem faster and have discovered more networks at my office today.
Still to establish if it is 54G or not.
On another note looks like T-mobile uk may be readying a rom upgrade, lots of activity on their ftp site last week. Half of the URL's I use to have to official upgrades and firmware for T-mobile uk devices dont work anymore.
It's got me thinking about this whole thing.
WHAT IF you could "rewrite" the radio stack, much like Linksys has provided the source code so that avid developers and Linux lovers could mess around with it?
Could we possibly enable EDGE capability? Could we retune to get 850 instead of 900 MHz?
Since the radio stack can obviously be changed regardless of the CE ROM, it may not be tied too directly to jump points in memory (unless the developers are following a fixed structure on how to build the stack).
I'm thinking back in the days when latter 33.6k modems were flash-upgradable to 56k with that K56Flex/X2 fiasco back then...
If the hardware is there and is primarily software-controlled, it just takes the right reprogramming to get it right.
Anyone on the same page as me?
BeyondtheTech said:
Since the radio stack can obviously be changed regardless of the CE ROM, it may not be tied too directly to jump points in memory (unless the developers are following a fixed structure on how to build the stack).
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What you call a "radio stack" is usually a realtime unix
operating system, running on a separate computer with its own CPU/RAM/ROM/IO/etc.
It is relatively easy to replace wince with Linux on the "general purpose" part of the phone.
Dealing with the GSM part is much more difficult for various reasons.
ratcom said:
Just saw this over at msmobile.com http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4853.html Is it true???
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Universal uses the same TI ACX100 wlan chipset as the Blueangel, ipaq hx4700, and many others.
It supports only the 11Mb speed.
cr2 said:
ratcom said:
Just saw this over at msmobile.com http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4853.html Is it true???
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Universal uses the same TI ACX100 wlan chipset as the Blueangel, ipaq hx4700, and many others.
It supports only the 11Mb speed.
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Then Universal chipset is different from Wizard chipset...:?:
I tried DJVW WLAN 302.11g Activator, suggested in Wizard forum, with my 9000 but i get CapNotify error on startup :?
cr2 said:
ratcom said:
Just saw this over at msmobile.com http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4853.html Is it true???
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Universal uses the same TI ACX100 wlan chipset as the Blueangel, ipaq hx4700, and many others.
It supports only the 11Mb speed.
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Is there a pin compatible 802.11G chip out there? If upgrading surface mount RAM in these things is possible, why not radio chips?
Tryed it, been there.
DOES NOT WORK FOR ME
(testing was done by setting my Router to G only mode the MDA PRO would not connect)

HD2 HSDPA/WiFi speedtest slow

My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
otester said:
My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
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There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
mjordan79 said:
There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
Also I meant just O2 for 0.5/2.5 HSDPA thing, just checked Vodafone and got 3.5Mb / 1Mb.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
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I don't know. Maybe it's WinMo but I don't have other Windows Phones to make comparisons.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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I agree but these are the people that appear here when you criticize their toy.
Maybe enabling wifi-n will speed it up. I'd at least give that a try.
Also, I did a test, and I get exactly what I get on my laptop which is 5644kbps
I have been having issues with HSDPA on my HD2 for some time. I am with T-mobile UK... what I have found is that when I hard boot/reflash a new rom... HSDPA is full speed. However something triggers what I can only think is a GPRS only mode, at first I thought I had installed apps that affected networking but I don't believe that is the case now.
Yesterday for example I was in a shielded building and had no reception whatsoever... when I came out I could not connect to T-Mobile data so restarted my HD2 a few times then setup data again.... I am connected now but internet connectivity is really slow, I generally stream music but I can't do this and I may as well forget about YouTube.
I have spoken to T-Mobile about this in the past and they said there are no restrictions on my account. I also know (havng proved it before) that by going through the hassle of a hard reset/new rom flash HSDPA with work again.
I wonder if this is IP related but I am not sure how to check the configuration on Winmo. I also am unsure how/where to do a speedtest (Speedtest.net needs an updated version of flash).
Managed to get it sorted out.... sent the Tmobile settings from the Tmobile website to my phone. Then in my ROM (OMEGA) there is a enable 3G mode.... This seems a bit flaky to be honest... Anyway I selected the new Tmobile internet settings option in Connections, then flicked the 3G setting in connection manager on and off a few times...
In the status bar, rather than "G" and a small "G" with reception meter both show as "H" (this will differ to the rom you have probably).... main thing is streaming is back again
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
boysanjose said:
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
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I've generally found 3G to be faster than WiFi and even the ping in some situations on WM phones.
my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
aarons6 said:
my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
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3G speed depends heavily on the mast tech level and how many people are using it.

3G plus wifi?

I am kinda having some crazy stuff going on. First does anyone have a good website to check download speeds? I am using I.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.HTML.
I pick the 3G test I get about 300-600 Kbps for a download speed. The crazy thing is if I turn on my wifi, but DO NOT CONNECT to a network I get 1600-1800 Kbps. I have tested and retested many times no matter what if I have the wifi turned on I always get a faster speed. I know I am not connected to a network because A. When I do connect to my home wireless I get about 4000 Kbps. B. I have tested this when there are no networks around.
I guess cool if I am really getting those speeds which it looks like I am because even the latency probes are fast, my concern is having the wifi on all the time will eat up my battery even more.
So I would like some feed back on what others are using to do speed tests and also does this happen to anyone else?
I am on joshes fast and stable rom.
Radio2.10.50.26
Thanks people.....
It is changing your reg settings and allowing for a larger transfer rate.
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It is changing your reg settings and allowing for a larger transfer rate.
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Ok... So can I change those settings so I can get that speed without the wifi on?
Thanks
I use www.speakeasy.net/speedtest for that...it only works in IE (not opera, haven't tested it in skyfire), but does a great job.
I personally dont know how, i cam across a post saying how to, ill look it up. Recently ive been busy running android on the hd2

[ Q ] Wi-fi N-draft ???

In WM there was a option (in custom builds)
to enable something like N-draft for wi-fi.
It was increasing perfomance of wi-fi (for me it was even 10x better)
Is there something like this for Android ???
Thanks in advance.
To enable 802.11 draft-N needs draft-N capable chip, which the HD2 does NOT have! The wireless modes that HD2 supports are 802.11b/g, so you either mean something like "Extreme/Super G" (which I also think HD2 hardware doesn't support) or you don't remember correctly because what you're asking isn't possible...
Regards
Well, I know this , this is a reason why i called this as : " N-draft like ".
Can anyone tell me is something like this works for Android :
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-tweak-enables-wifi-n-support-2464252/
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
First is a link to article about N-draft capabilities,
second one is a link to BSB Tweaks showing N-draft enabling options.
So there is N-draft like application for Android HD2 ???
I'm pretty sure N is enable in android build I used, because my router says so.
justwonder said:
I'm pretty sure N is enable in android build I used, because my router says so.
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What Android version do you use ?
Is there a way to check this in my ★shubCRAFT 1.5★CM6 Final★ ???
klopikxda said:
What Android version do you use ?
Is there a way to check this in my ★shubCRAFT 1.5★CM6 Final★ ???
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FRG33 base with initrd.gz & rootfs.img of HD2Froyo_V2.1 and 8/24 kernel.
Try to connect to wireless N router you will know.
justwonder said:
FRG33 base with initrd.gz & rootfs.img of HD2Froyo_V2.1 and 8/24 kernel.
Try to connect to wireless N router you will know.
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A wireless N router usually transmits both N and G WiFi (and possibly B too), so being able to connect doesn't mean anything.
StephanV said:
A wireless N router usually transmits both N and G WiFi (and possibly B too), so being able to connect doesn't mean anything.
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This have been tested million times on windows mobile. And the chip contained was proved to support n draft ' you really. Need to do some search
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
hoss_n2 said:
This have been tested million times on windows mobile. And the chip contained was proved to support n draft ' you really. Need to do some search
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I never said the HD2 doesn't have an N chip, just pointed out that being able to connect to one doesn't mean ****. Thanks for pointing out it's got the hardware though, never heard that before.
StephanV said:
I never said the HD2 doesn't have an N chip, just pointed out that being able to connect to one doesn't mean ****. Thanks for pointing out it's got the hardware though, never heard that before.
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It means ****(whatever you meant), if it connected to your router(N mode only turn on), or look at your router status, it would let you know what (****) mode of your connection (Mix mode on your router)

For People Who're Worried About 802.11n

FWIW, this is a post to help people point their fingers in the right direction. As it turns out, 802.11n seems to be disabled at the WP7-level. Here is the thread, detailing the registry hacks for the HD7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907971
It clearly shows the key and the setting needed to enable 802.11n on the device. Hope this helps whoever is worried about the device's ability to utilize 802.11n speeds.
It would be awesome if someone can figure out a way to tweak the registry for DVP. I wouldn't mind 802.11n speeds.
Actually I wouldn't mind if the phone stops freezing if I connect to Wi-Fi
I'm on my 6th VP and totally frustrated.
eyan15 said:
Actually I wouldn't mind if the phone stops freezing if I connect to Wi-Fi
I'm on my 6th VP and totally frustrated.
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not to be mean but at what point do you give up
personally i would have after 3

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