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Connect two Moguls for ICS at once for MagicJack?

My wife and I both have Moguls and since we moved, we're trying to get by without any real home broadband since the $40 a month is a lot. We have been OK just using internet connection sharing on each of our laptops and using the EVDO we already pay for. But, cheap as we are, we wanted to use MagicJack through our EVDO ICS connection so we can get unlimited calling at home without using minutes.
The problem is that when I do speed testing, our download is between 200 and 500 kbps and the upload is a lot lower, as expected. We get between 70 and 150 kbps depending on the time of day and since the lower numbers are when we'd like to use the MJ, it is frustrating. Call quality is not good enough to hold a conversation when the speeds are low, but sometimes the call quality is definitely usable (local network congestion variability?).
Here's my noob question: is it possible to connect both of our Moguls at once through ICS to get better speeds (upload is the killer). I have tried it and looking at Win Task Mgr Networking tab it seems like one connection is chugging along while the other one just has little blips every few seconds. Is there any way to get them to actually work at the same time?
If not, is there anyone out there having good luck with a tethered Mogul, laptop, and magicjack? Also, can someone tell me if I'm really getting Rev-A speeds? How can I tell?
Thanks

dhoopes said:
My wife and I both have Moguls and since we moved, we're trying to get by without any real home broadband since the $40 a month is a lot. We have been OK just using internet connection sharing on each of our laptops and using the EVDO we already pay for. But, cheap as we are, we wanted to use MagicJack through our EVDO ICS connection so we can get unlimited calling at home without using minutes.
The problem is that when I do speed testing, our download is between 200 and 500 kbps and the upload is a lot lower, as expected. We get between 70 and 150 kbps depending on the time of day and since the lower numbers are when we'd like to use the MJ, it is frustrating. Call quality is not good enough to hold a conversation when the speeds are low, but sometimes the call quality is definitely usable (local network congestion variability?).
Here's my noob question: is it possible to connect both of our Moguls at once through ICS to get better speeds (upload is the killer). I have tried it and looking at Win Task Mgr Networking tab it seems like one connection is chugging along while the other one just has little blips every few seconds. Is there any way to get them to actually work at the same time?
If not, is there anyone out there having good luck with a tethered Mogul, laptop, and magicjack? Also, can someone tell me if I'm really getting Rev-A speeds? How can I tell?
Thanks
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What i would first do, is look into updating your Mogul. And it looks like you Carrier is Sprint. Ur PRL Could get a needed update, as well as your radio and PRI.

no you can not
Sorry to say that you can not do the 2 unit at a time to increase speed because you would actually have to bind the connections with MLP (multilink protocol) and also even if you could then the server at the other end must support that and nobody does that I know of. Sorry.

HD2 HSDPA/WiFi speedtest slow

My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.

otester said:
My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
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There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.

mjordan79 said:
There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
Also I meant just O2 for 0.5/2.5 HSDPA thing, just checked Vodafone and got 3.5Mb / 1Mb.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?

otester said:
That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
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I don't know. Maybe it's WinMo but I don't have other Windows Phones to make comparisons.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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I agree but these are the people that appear here when you criticize their toy.

Maybe enabling wifi-n will speed it up. I'd at least give that a try.
Also, I did a test, and I get exactly what I get on my laptop which is 5644kbps

I have been having issues with HSDPA on my HD2 for some time. I am with T-mobile UK... what I have found is that when I hard boot/reflash a new rom... HSDPA is full speed. However something triggers what I can only think is a GPRS only mode, at first I thought I had installed apps that affected networking but I don't believe that is the case now.
Yesterday for example I was in a shielded building and had no reception whatsoever... when I came out I could not connect to T-Mobile data so restarted my HD2 a few times then setup data again.... I am connected now but internet connectivity is really slow, I generally stream music but I can't do this and I may as well forget about YouTube.
I have spoken to T-Mobile about this in the past and they said there are no restrictions on my account. I also know (havng proved it before) that by going through the hassle of a hard reset/new rom flash HSDPA with work again.
I wonder if this is IP related but I am not sure how to check the configuration on Winmo. I also am unsure how/where to do a speedtest (Speedtest.net needs an updated version of flash).

Managed to get it sorted out.... sent the Tmobile settings from the Tmobile website to my phone. Then in my ROM (OMEGA) there is a enable 3G mode.... This seems a bit flaky to be honest... Anyway I selected the new Tmobile internet settings option in Connections, then flicked the 3G setting in connection manager on and off a few times...
In the status bar, rather than "G" and a small "G" with reception meter both show as "H" (this will differ to the rom you have probably).... main thing is streaming is back again

Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny

boysanjose said:
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
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I've generally found 3G to be faster than WiFi and even the ping in some situations on WM phones.

my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?

aarons6 said:
my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
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3G speed depends heavily on the mast tech level and how many people are using it.

speedtest.net, Opera 10 mobile, HD2 is slower on WIFI than on Tmous?

First I apologize if this has been covered in another post - I searched but couldn't find and if so a redirect would be appreciated.
I'm trying to determine just how fast data can be pushed through the phone and I've run into some problems.
I'm trying to use speedtest.net to do this and it was working with the stock ROM but since I've been trying different ROMs (3 of them in fact) I always get the error "Missing License Key" in he Speedtest.net window.
Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
Since that one doesn't work I've been using the Speedtest.net mini. That at least gives me up and download speeds.
But I've also found that whne I connect to the internet with WiFi the speeds are almost slower than a decent H connection.
It's rare that I get over 3 down /1.5 up on a WiFi N connection that has 20+Mbit Comcast connection behind it.
Here I'd just like to confirm if everybody else is seeing the same thing:
What dl/ul speeds are your seeing with your HD2 connected to a fast wireless router?

On the stock ROM it wasn't much higher than the 3G.

Not for me, I usually get 13-14 Mbps down/ 50 kBps (stupid cable upload speeds) up on wifi and around 1.8 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up on HSXPA/UMTS.

I personally have very little faith in the reliability of numbers from speedtest.net
Try testing this way...use IE instead of opera, and go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest (it wont run in opera but will in IE). When I use that method while connected to my home wifi, I get the exact same speed my desktop gets using the same dsl source (just a hair over 5MB down), which my 3g connection here has yet to match...usually caps out at around 3MB or so.

I've seen the same behaviour as the OP.
My Wi-fi speeds are slower than my HSPA speeds.

I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.

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I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.
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Thx for that tip!
i'll try it out

Thanks everyone for the replys!
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On the stock ROM it wasn't much higher than the 3G.
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Which ROM are you using and how much faster is it? Do you see a large speed difference with a different ROM between a fast WiFi and 3g/h?
The only real difference I noticed between the stock and 3 other ROMS I've installed so far is that I wasted a long time trying to get WiFi working in KAOS but never could. I was able to get a connection but the client never reported an IP address. Turns out the ROM I was using was not specifically for the TMOUS HD2 so maybe that was the cause.
jubeh said:
Not for me, I usually get 13-14 Mbps down/ 50 kBps (stupid cable upload speeds) up on wifi and around 1.8 Mbps down/ 1.5 Mbps up on HSXPA/UMTS.
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My situation is reversed; the cable manages 3mb up on the PC but the 3G/H is almost always much slower on upload than download.
Which ROM are you using?
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..use IE instead of opera, and go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest ..."
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Thanks, that was an excellent suggestion; I hadn't tried this particular site before and while it uses the same data as speedtest.net it also allows a specific destination and works with IE.
In random testing on WiFi I got around 7-8Mb down, 3 Mb up. While driving around the local area I got 5 bars from two different towers and found an average 1.0Mb dl, 0.8Mb up, and that was pretty constant whether moving or stopped.
I've also noticed in general that the "H" only appears whenever data is actually being transferred (sounds like our back-end hasn't been upgraded). Right now I can get neither the speedtest.net nor the mini version to work - the windows just stay white.
I'll keep trying both of them to compare over the next few weeks but I think the biggest part of the problem is Adobe Flash. There is a reason why Apple doesn't support them and I don't think it's all political like Adobe would have us believe.
I've also done some more experimenting with mobilespeedtest.com as well as general testing over the past few days.
Mobile speed test shows that IE seems to be faster/more stable than Opera - by probably 5 to 20%. While the absolute numbers had alot of variability, Opera was unable to complete the 5 MB and 7 MB tests at all; the browser window just remained blank.
The other thing to throw in here while trying to clean up the phone I found the post about doing a hard reset and that also seemed to help. I don't have any solid data but I would certainly hard reset it again and recommend it to anyone that has changed ROMS much or done a lot of installing/deinstalling of cabs.
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I've seen the same behaviour as the OP.
My Wi-fi speeds are slower than my HSPA speeds.
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By how much roughly? Are you also on the stock ROM?
That certainly jibes with what I found on the stock ROM using speedtest.net.
hbkgabe said:
I had same issue as well. I had bsb tweaks installed. I disabled the wifi n tweak. after that both my 3g and wifi speeds went up. Re-enabled the tweak to see if speeds would be reduced and this time only the wifi speeds increased again. tweak must of been causing some sort of issue with the 3g and wifi speeds. Try disabling it, soft reset and than re-enable the tweak. Hopefully it works for you as it did for me.
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I don't have BSB tweaks installed currently but I performed the WirelessN tweak in the registry. Based on what you've said here I went back and switched it off, did a soft reset, tested and then back on and retested, and found no dramatic difference between any of them. What I found was a lot of variability between the tests in the same setting - even one right after the other. (I would probably do well to review the wireless router settings to see if I can up the data throughput rate.)
To compare I checked a notebook using N located at about the same distance from the router and got speeds a little (5-10%) faster than on the phone (-hardwired into the router I get 25Mbps down). This tells me the phone is as optimized as it's going to be going through my router.
So on the phone I see final scores of about 7-8Mbps down, 2-3 up, with spikes over 10 Mbps down and 4 up during the tests.

Deeted - error post

I tried "mobilespeedtest.com" and get around 1100-1300 kbps on wifi and the same or more when wifi off and using t-mobile (with "H" showing, not 3g).
speakeasy/speedtest on wifi 3421 kbps, off wifi , 3569 kbps (3.57mbps)

DonJohe said:
By how much roughly? Are you also on the stock ROM?
That certainly jibes with what I found on the stock ROM using speedtest.net.
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No, Not on the Stock ROM.

Like Opera Mini and Skyfire, I think Opera Mobile 10 goes through an external server. One cannot get an accurate speed test that way. Use Opera 9, or better IE, as it works with flash speed tests as well, not only the mobile ones.

Data speed on Tethering

Hi
Before i got my i9505 i used my i9000, i travel alot and when the hotells doesn't provide wifi i use wireless tether. This always worked good and i was looking forward to get my hands on a 4G phone for faster speeds... problem now is that i cant say the speed is better... not even better then the i9000 for some reason.
It starts of good with fair speeds depending on coverage.. then it goes down fast, after just 2-3 minutes of downloading a big file the speed goes down to about 50kb/s for some reason and stays there untill i restart tether.
Could someone help me confirm this by downloading a big file ('bout 500mb or so?) and see if you can reproduce it.
currently i'm on ME2 with Omega 3.0
Swedish Three as provider and when i used speedtest.net while the download speed was 50kb/s i still had 5mb/s on the phone
unfortunately i did not test this while i was on stock rom would have been great if i did so it would be easier to determin where the problem was.
I also noticed the speed went higher (not full speed though) if i never let the screen go to sleep. i dont use any power savers of any kind.

Increase 4g speed by disabling mobile connections optimizer?

So I just disabled connections optimizer because I was having issues with my hotspot and I get 2-3 times faster 4g LTE speeds now. Call me crazy but it's true, I've tested it by turning it back on and the speed goes back down!!! Anyone else want to test to confirm if it's a fluke or if we are really being throttled by sprint?

Speeds are crap here :/

Connection optimizer tries to pick the "best" connection available, switching connections in the background. I've always turned it off because it prioritizes wi-fi above all others (even when the available wifi connections are considerably slower than the 4G in the area). I think it may have even connected automatically to open wifi hotspots that I had never used before (it's been too long for me to be sure on that point, though). Even when it ultimately decided to stick with the 4G connection, the moment that it took to check other connections would interrupt many downloads and slow down those that managed to keep going - perhaps that's the issue you were experiencing...
But with it turned off, you should enjoy better battery life as well
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Thanks for the details. I see that the second post is showing very high download speeds. Why are you saying they are crap?
In reply to the styles 420, I wasn't experiencing overall issues, I just noticed an immediate LTE improvement after I disabled sprint optimizer. When I turned it back off immediate decline. Speed test with connections optimizer on would be around 3mb/s, immediately after turning off optimizer, standing in the exact same location, my speeds are 7-9 mb/s. Please more people test this to see if you see an improvement, doing a before and after a few times with connections optimizer on and off for mobile.

bump - someone else please try this need at least 5-10 people to try.

Turning mine on and off changed it a little bit.
Turned on top pic and bottom pic is turned off. only.

Wow good news that's over triple increase in upload 33% increase in download! Thanking you for the post, anyone else please share?

styles420 said:
Connection optimizer tries to pick the "best" connection available, switching connections in the background. I've always turned it off because it prioritizes wi-fi above all others (even when the available wifi connections are considerably slower than the 4G in the area). I think it may have even connected automatically to open wifi hotspots that I had never used before (it's been too long for me to be sure on that point, though). Even when it ultimately decided to stick with the 4G connection, the moment that it took to check other connections would interrupt many downloads and slow down those that managed to keep going - perhaps that's the issue you were experiencing...
But with it turned off, you should enjoy better battery life as well
Sent from my SM-N910P using XDA Free mobile app
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If you are having problems with your hotspot I found a useful app that stops it from breaking up. "Connections Optimizer" stops disconnections and if the connection is forced off it reconnects more quickly (works best with super access ). At home I make my hotspot through my PC with pda.net. through the hotspot my speeds are actually double what they are through mobile data.

Well piggy where my lte speed is supposed to be way faster i use my wifi in my house. Lte sucks here.

Ya to me my 5-10 mb LTE is bad because I have 170 at home but for people who use LTE a lot outside like me it is a big deal. other people please post your before and after connections optimizer speeds we are seeing big improvements.

This thread isn't about hot spot it is about connections optimizer actually throttling your Internet speed. If you can please post before and after speeds with connections optimizer on and off, testing from your phone with speed test.

piggynuts said:
This thread isn't about hot spot it is about connections optimizer actually throttling your Internet speed. If you can please post before and after speeds with connections optimizer on and off, testing from your phone with speed test.
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My LTE sucks here as well. It depends on the time of day I use it. I can't even use the connections optimizer anymore. If I don't disable it my connection gets interrupted every 10 minutes or so. I use 100gb+ from Sprints network every month so they dial me back. I get around it by installing a new ROM or resetting the SCRTN often. I think that the device is programmed to remember home (where you spend most of your time) and it dials it back there. A new ROM will get up to 10mbs for a day or so and then it kicks back to .5 - 1.5 at home. If I go somewhere else it jumps up to 20.
I don't have WiFi at home right now. If you read the description in the optimizer it says it is designed for the smart switch. So, unless you are somewhere that there is WiFi for it to switch in and out of it does no good.
Read op on Google's policies for WiFi. You will be surprised to find what they say about it. Unless you opt out devices are allowed to make quick connections to anyone's router.

Ya that's normal for 4g to go up and down depending on where you are and how much data you have used. But good to know that your speed does go up with connections optimizer off!!! That's 4/4 people I belive? Anyone else care to test before and after speeds in same location?

piggynuts said:
Ya that's normal for 4g to go up and down depending on where you are and how much data you have used. But good to know that your speed does go up with connections optimizer off!!! That's 4/4 people I belive? Anyone else care to test before and after speeds in same location?
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I tried it out to get you the picture you requested. I did 4 tests. I was actually getting better speeds with the optimizer on. The forth one didn't show in the total. In my screenshot 1 and 3 are with the optimizer off and 2 is with it on. It's 1mb faster with it on. I'll try again later when I'm not at home.
The 1mb isn't worth leaving it on when it's not plugged in because of battery usage from having to leave the GPS. Also, I don't use it because I get interrupted every few minutes with a notification saying connections optimizer has stopped.