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Last year I changed my SPV-M600 to a Touch Diamond. The M600 has since been demoted to the cluttered up bottom drawer of my bedside cabinet. Ive realised that in all probability I will never ever use it again so I would like to donate it to a good cause.
Ive taken huge amounts of knowledge away from this website and downloaded countless free apps, so I figured I would hand something back, ie, my old phone. I would like to think that this device, whilst not exactly cutting edge, might find a new home with a developer or some such person for testing new apps, etc, but also someone who puts a lot of effort into helping us on this site. The device is bog standard as I got it from Orange, and has WM5 installed. Its got a tiny dint on the screen but still fully functional (Got the box, instructions, charger, etc, but theyre prob not that much use).
I havent really thought it out fully, but firstly, does anyone think this might be useful to someone, and if so who ? I was thinking maybe the mods could nominate someone ?
I know its not like im giving the crown jewels away or anything but I just want it to be useful and not flogged on by some wide boy for a couple of quid/euros.
(ps...I will also pay reasonable postage costs)
Blimey ..... 49 views and not a single nomination. Is this phone really that bad ?
Did I mention it was FREE to a good home ?
and if someone volunteers for giving it a good new home himself?
If you really want to give it away, i would love to receive it =0)
But im the first one to nominate myself and have more posts (70 as compared to your 3) and joined the forum 1 month earlier
so its mine
lol, just let him decide^^
and i don't understand the point of your posts sorry^^
it's just that my xda neo broke some days ago so this one would be really cool =)
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But im the first one to nominate myself and have more posts (70 as compared to your 3) and joined the forum 1 month earlier
so its mine
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On that case I nominate my self also!
I have more posts than you and joined before!
Let`s hope the desicion benefit to the one that need it most
G00d evening
i want to start cooking.....
im in birmingham so just down the road...had a m700....great tool.....would like to learn to cook with the m600
if you have paypal ill pay for postage.....its the least i could do
all the best
Liam
Its fine if you want to nominate yourself chaps, however I did say that I would like to see it go to someone who would put it to good use, such as a developer.
Liamhere is both a mod, meaning he puts his own time into this site, and has expressed a desire to use it as a development tool.
Liamhere its yours, if you still want it. Will pm you and arrange postage. Won't be till next week though.
many thanks mate
will contact you via pm.
Hi guys and gals, first I'll introduce myself properly. My name is Chris, I'm 22 and live near leeds in england. I'm currently setting up a small blog interviewing android developers to give the general public a little look into the life of a developer. My aim is to try and help people realise that developers however great or small have a life beyond programming. It will also help advertise work created by some of the lesser known devs out there.
Currently I have only interviewed one developer and am uploading that at some point today, but I do have a list of others I intend to speak with.
I've even had a suggestion from one of those developers to interview an XDA moderator, to show you guys how much junk they have to put up with and clean on a regular basis to help give you the nice friendly happy community we have now. (Mikey, your name was mentioned but any mod can participate)
So without further ado, the blog address is interviewing-devs.blogspot.com
As a comic twist to the whole thing, I intend to do the whole thing from my G1 which is proving a little complicated as I seem to be getting a few FC errors with androblogger, and the blogger website looks a little funky on the G1.
As a quick note, there is no profit to be made by myself doing this, but I will be placing donation links for each developer interviewed.
So, if you're a dev and want to join in, let me know. If you know a dev and would like to see an interview, let them know about me and get them to contact me
Code:
Interview with Maxisma online now
Many thanks to all the devs on my list so far for making this whole thing possible, and also a huge thanks to everybody here for having a community worth joining.
You should interview the Wrecking Crew to show what we have to put up with too.
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You should interview the Wrecking Crew to show what we have to put up with too.
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Mornin supreme.
And also interview some complete noobs to find out what the whole developer scene looks like from their pov.
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Mornin supreme.
And also interview some complete noobs to find out what the whole developer scene looks like from their pov.
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Mornin I sent you a shout out in another post. It looks like it's gonna be me and you and codini today. Gridlock told me he ain't gonna be on til like 8 tonight. I think he just don't want to get flamed like friday.
Interviewing devs is nice but if you want to catch the entire view of the G1 hacking/modding/rooting whatever term you want to use world. Then you need the point of view from new users, seniors, and devs. Remember devs don't deal with problems unless the problem effects alot of people and is verified by themselves or people he trusts. Also there wouldn't be an interest in a dev's interview without the masses following his work. Get those interviews first so you can ask the correct, hard hitting questions to the devs.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm at work at the moment but once I get home, Maxisma's interview will be posted, and I'll move onto another dev. At the moment probably the biggest names I have are Cyanogen and manup456. I did ask haykuro but he hasn't got back to me, and I'm still asking other devs.
Your constructive critisism is greatly appreciated, and ideas taken on board
Ladies and Gents, the second interview is underway, and you're all going to be surprised at who I'm speaking to. Keep watching this space for more news. Hopefully I'll get everything asked and answered before Monday, but due to a time difference of several hours there may be a delay, just depends if my dev and I can get online at the same time.
But anyway, provided everything goes well, it should be finished by Monday for your reading pleasure.
If you have any questions you wish to ask a dev not already interviewed, let me know and I'll add it to my list
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"In general "I hate my phone" threads neither contribute soluactions to problems nor do they seek answers to problems in a calm and reasoned way.
These forums are for the giving and receiving of information that assists users to get the best from their device - it is not a vehicle for "sounding-off" about your phone.
This thread does have some useful content, so I will not delete it but will close it as relevant points have already been made.
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Ok .... so, the fact that we know HTC pay attention to people gripes, comments and compliments on these forums.... if that had been a "we love HTC thread" would that have been closed?
I agree being rude and obnoxious are very good reasons but ... why not censor the very few posts related to it. Why close the general dissastifaction with what appears to be a typical HTC release. Without a place to talk about the general failure of HTC, how can the majority of people learn? How can those prospective customers be aware of the challenges they need to overcome to turn a rubbish device (out of the factory) into a great device (after XDA and chefs)?
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And it appears all you have to do is complain about a thread, not be justified in your complaint.
The one thing i've always used in years is the xda forums and some of that i haven't even owned a HTC device. Like it or not, most people here have invested a lot of hard earned cash (or will over the next 18/24 months) and that will naturaly attract an emotional value - hence some anger when something like this doesn't work. The fact there was so much feeling in that thread should indicate the level of "emotion" about it and the incensed feeling they have about the amount people feel they have spent, money and time, on a device they are so unhappy about. Maybe if you guys created a "vent here thread" you might get to allow people to rant AND get usefull threads - heck, even HTC might read the "vent here thread!" and take note?
I'm so worried after reading todays threads in particular, about ordering mine earlier today but sadly nothing else that supports FULL exchange meets my requirements. I know my consumer rights and will use them to the full should I need to but I hope not it does have so many great points.
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Ok .... so, the fact that we know HTC pay attention to people gripes, comments and compliments on these forums....
We don't know that for sure. There are many on here who would disagree, saying that for them, if HTC were listening, then perceived problems would have been resolved quicker.
I agree being rude and obnoxious are very good reasons but ... why not censor the very few posts related to it. Why close the general dissatisfaction with what appears to be a typical HTC release. Without a place to talk about the general failure of HTC, how can the majority of people learn? How can those prospective customers be aware of the challenges they need to overcome to turn a rubbish device (out of the factory) into a great device (after XDA and chefs)?
Problem with this argument is that there are some on here who don't wish to face those challenges, which is fair enough. However what they do is to gripe about it and not help themselves, even when you point them in the right direction.
And it appears all you have to do is complain about a thread, not be justified in your complaint.
Not sure where you get that from. Please provide evidence of this or retract.
The one thing i've always used in years is the xda forums and some of that i haven't even owned a HTC device. Like it or not, most people here have invested a lot of hard earned cash (or will over the next 18/24 months) and that will naturally attract an emotional value - hence some anger when something like this doesn't work. The fact there was so much feeling in that thread should indicate the level of "emotion" about it and the incensed feeling they have about the amount people feel they have spent, money and time, on a device they are so unhappy about. Maybe if you guys created a "vent here thread" you might get to allow people to rant AND get useful threads - heck, even HTC might read the "vent here thread!" and take note?
Any "ranting", as you put it, should be made direct to HTC. XDA-Developers is exactly that; a developers site with a lot of interested non-developers in it. Its not the place to take out your frustrations against a manufacturer.
Re your point on hard earned cash being spent, I can't disagree with this. However ask these people how many of them went out and gave the device a really good test drive and an assessment of whether it would meet their needs or not and you will be silenced by the response.
I'm so worried after reading todays threads in particular, about ordering mine earlier today but sadly nothing else that supports FULL exchange meets my requirements. I know my consumer rights and will use them to the full should I need to but I hope not it does have so many great points.
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If you have doubts about this device then don't buy it. You will be severely disappointed. If you have not taken time out to test drive one before putting your order in then, with respect, more fool you.
Finally, moderators on here bend over backwards NOT to close threads or be seen as censoring debate. However we have to keep a balance and if, in our judgment, a thread is getting out of hand or no longer has any value nor serve any useful purpose then it will be closed.
All the best,
WB
as you've quoted inside of quotes you have made it really dificult for me to "quote" back - nice job! (although i suspect not deliberate).
"We don't know that for sure. There are many on here who would disagree, saying that for them, if HTC were listening, then perceived problems would have been resolved quicker."
Yeah ok. So the very big majority of Winmob market phones are produced by HTC, this site is dedicated to HTC (and historicaly Winmob).... do you REALLY think they don't read these forums? Really? Honestly? Are you sure?
"Problem with this argument is that there are some on here who don't wish to face those challenges, which is fair enough. However what they do is to gripe about it and not help themselves, even when you point them in the right direction."
I agree. There are SOME who want to gripe. There are a ship load more who want to make a device work but can't, no matter the support they get from the community - random users suffering from the SMS bug for example? The very fact most of these people have googled/have knowledge of these forums, means that they have at least gone to some effort to resolve an issue. So yes some, but a VERY small number. So, how can they air the frustrations they have? where? Maybe the most expansive and read HTC forums... thats a good place to start!
"And it appears all you have to do is complain about a thread, not be justified in your complaint.
Not sure where you get that from. Please provide evidence of this or retract."
*sigh* .... ok .... i'll come back to this but, i did quote, if you really want me to link to a thread closed in the past 10 minutes other than i already quoted your mod. I will.
"Any "ranting", as you put it, should be made direct to HTC. XDA-Developers is exactly that; a developers site with a lot of interested non-developers in it. Its not the place to take out your frustrations against a manufacturer."
Yeah ya know, it was a developers site years ago.... its not any more and hasn't been for a long time. Its a cookers and users site now. If you still think HTC don't read this forum then .... The sites success over the years can also be its greatest strength if you let it.
Now this isn't a problem of the site itself, more one with many reviews and fanboys of ALL phones, Iphone, HTC, Nokia....
"Re your point on hard earned cash being spent, I can't disagree with this. However ask these people how many of them went out and gave the device a really good test drive and an assessment of whether it would meet their needs or not and you will be silenced by the response."
Trying out a phone is a shop is a VERY diferent affair to OWNING one. Any person will know that, sadly though, many of us have to go by the reviews and forum comments that are available and try to filter out what may or may not be fanboy. Magazines, forum posts, personal reviews, blogs are all individual and very personal. Saying that someone should have reviewed more is simply not fair. Its impossible. Try asking your local O2 shop if you can take a phone away for a couple of weeks to try?
Hold on .... yes you can!!!! And that was the point of the last thread that got closed! Your fellow mod closed a thread which wasn't actually personal to anyone and (from a personal fed up with moaners point of view) I was trying educate people who purchased there phones in the UK that they had a bucket load of rights. If they are not happy, and it was purchased from the uk, then please "turn it in!" and return it.
Now from my pov, i'm a londoner (can you tell?) but i work all over the world. Currently im in Durban (yeah I was there at the test match! and met the England team) but out here they dont have the HD 2 so, I have to go on the reviews etc. Some people out here will spend near on £600 getting it imported from Expansys UK (ummm .... co.za) and other sites.
also..
Can i provide evidence? No. It was not made public so all I can assume is that if I PM a mod, things will be closed:
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"In general "I hate my phone" threads neither contribute soluactions to problems nor do they seek answers to problems in a calm and reasoned way.
These forums are for the giving and receiving of information that assists users to get the best from their device - it is not a vehicle for "sounding-off" about your phone.
This thread does have some useful content, so I will not delete it but will close it as relevant points have already been made.
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How can i provide more evidence than that? I'm not privvy to your private messages. The previous line though backs up my "love HTC or go away" argument to a small extent:
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I really think you guys, having helped, actually almost pushed HTC to where they are should now use your position and be .... responsible(? maybe a bit strong)) ... finaly get off the HTC only band wagon. Let them know that the stunning products they produce will no longer be accepted only 90% complete.
Ok. Lets be realistic. I ain't gona change your minds on anything and I don't want you to rebel against HTC as they make amazing hardware but, at least, in the position you have got.... maybe create a "if your gone B*&% and let off steam, do it in this thread?" thread? Maybe, just maybe there will be a common thread in it that HTC will finaly get to grips with .....?
Oh, and i've had a tytn, tytn 2 and having had both of those replaced under warranty i thought... no! Poke it! And had a tosh g900 when most people couldnt even spell 800 res screens and then foolishly went to a TD. That was refunded quickly under sales of goods act. Have an Acer M900 but due to the fact i'm living in south africa and i purchased that under my company contract, i now need to replace next week when im back in the UK. I was looking at a Milestone but the exchange support is rubbish at best. So, I have a week to try the HD2 or return it as not fit for purpose.... I do however, really want it to work!
And one final word.... my best winmob device without a device? Well two actually .... the Samsung Omnia and the baggage reconciliation devices i'm working with at the new Durban airport (what??? its not just a PHONE O/S!!!!??)
My opinion.
Here's an example of 2 threads.
MY HD2 IS THE WORST FONE ON THE PLANIT
I bought this fone for £x000 dollars and it should do everything I can ever imagine, rite out of the out of the box. I am disgusted that HTC expect ME to fix their problems.
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Hi everyone.
I tried to send a text message to my friends earlier and it's stuck in my outbox. Does anyone know why this might be? Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do about it?
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This forum is not about defending or slating any particular device. It is meant for users to get together and talk about ways to make the experience better. This forum is not responsible for the fact that some hardware that comes out of some factory and gets some software installed on it is not 100% perfect!
Now for 1 moment, can we please put aside arguments regarding the device and talk about the forum? Which of the above 2 threads is the most constructive?
Thank you.
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Here's an example of 2 threads.
This forum is not about defending or slating any particular device. It is meant for users to get together and talk about ways to make the experience better. This forum is not responsible for the fact that some hardware that comes out of some factory and gets some software installed on it is not 100% perfect!
Now for 1 moment, can we please put aside arguments regarding the device and talk about the forum? Which of the above 2 threads is the most constructive?
Thank you.
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More to the point, what is the point of leaving the first example open? At the very least there should be a dedicated section for those unhelpful posts (as [★] suggested yesterday) but I think they should just be closed as they're so worthless.
Do you work for a newspaper?
Both comments are usefull. Just because you don't see the use in both doesn't mean they are not usefull. Does that mean 10% of men don't like brand x of condoms so they should be ignored of Fred Smiths Condom appreciation website?
(sorry thats a really poor example but its 2am here in SA and i've been on the beer and Eve-online and films for a few hours )
Very fair play to you for putting forward an argument (non abusive as I would hope) and maybe catch up tomorrow.
Monty,
You are a Londoner eh? I should have known. You lot are nothing but trouble makers!
First off sorry about the quotes within quotes; didn't realise it stopped you from quoting back. Now that I do...
OK, lots in your post that I could come back on in detail but I won't because I'm the sort of chap that likes going forwards, not looking back in self pity or whatever.
The one thing that you have suggested, and you are not the first, is that we think on somewhere where people can let off steam WITHOUT cluttering up the forums. As you know there is some work going on as to how best we can restructure the place to make it better. Can I ask you to be a little patient while all this gets worked through.
In the meantime, think on the following:
- Help us to support people who need and want help and please be robust about those that don't but just fancy a moan and upsetting people on here without ever really wanting to seek help or to help themselves (the word Troll comes to mind).
- If you look at the Development & Hacking forums you will see that Development is stronger than ever and does not change what this place is all about. The work of the chefs is recognised and appreciated, and you can argue that is also development so 2-0 there.
- Lets all try to be a little adult, constructive and get along a little. I can tell you that, from a Mods perspective, we really want to be doing other things to make people's lives on here better rather than spending time closing threads down because people just can't have a little respect for each other. I often wonder whether anyone ever reads the forum rules.
Finally thank you for keeping on the straight and narrow re this thread and not going off the rails and getting it closed.
WB
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More to the point, what is the point of leaving the first example open? At the very least there should be a dedicated section for those unhelpful posts (as [★] suggested yesterday) but I think they should just be closed as they're so worthless.
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I totally agree mate (hence the support in said thread raised by [★] yesterday.)
I find this site a ridiculously valuable source of information when I need help with my phone, and I find it disheartening to have to wade through complaint after complaint just in order to get to constructive discussions.
If I wanted to live in troll city, I'd pack all my stuff into boxes; call a removals company; do some browsing of estate agents and property letting agents; check the reputation of the areas I was interested in and then guess what.... MOVE TO TROLL CITY!
I'm a placid guy generally, but some posts really make me struggle to just not tell the OP where to go.
+9999999 recurring to real constructive users of this site.
-9999999 recurring to trolls (and we know you don't think you're a troll, but you are.)
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Do you work for a newspaper?
Both comments are usefull. Just because you don't see the use in both doesn't mean they are not usefull. Does that mean 10% of men don't like brand x of condoms so they should be ignored of Fred Smiths Condom appreciation website?
(sorry thats a really poor example but its 2am here in SA and i've been on the beer and Eve-online and films for a few hours )
Very fair play to you for putting forward an argument (non abusive as I would hope) and maybe catch up tomorrow.
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If 10% of men don't like brand x of condoms then they should definitely speak their mind. They would be wrong though to go to a forum that supports uses of brand x condoms and slate them. A support forum is for support.
OK first, no idea who Martin is. (Its Monty spelt the wrong way - doh)
Second, guys sounds like we might have a good conversation on the values of "to HTC or not HTC" although I might be on the wrong side, despite just spending a bucket load of fivers on a HT2.
Please, keep it clean and (well funny if you can't) but not personaly insulting. Everyone on a keyboard is a human being!
Be safe, have fun!
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OK first, no idea who Martin is.
Second, guys sounds like we might have a good conversation on the values of "to HTC or not HTC" although I might be on the wrong side, despite just spending a bucket load of fivers on a HT2.
Please, keep it clean and (well funny if you can't) but not personaly insulting. Everyone on a keyboard is a human being!
Be safe, have fun!
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I agree with that totally, but I do think this thread should be moved to a general area. Let's face it, it's hardly HD2 specific now is it!
It would be nice to see everyone's thoughts on this, rather than just the ones with The God Phone. (Just kidding - that was meant to incite trouble )
To be fair, those "I hate this phone" ranting type threads really do spiral into a hate fest or at least the few I've seen. If a topic is interesting and you comment on it, and go back later to see how it develops when all that is left is just insults, it has no use to most if not all.
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I agree with that totally, but I do think this thread should be moved to a general area. Let's face it, it's hardly HD2 specific now is it!
It would be nice to see everyone's thoughts on this, rather than just the ones with The God Phone. (Just kidding - that was meant to incite trouble )
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Argh! I'm not a god!!! (although I think I am, with my size 9 shoes... bow down before me!)
Seriously, maybe a good idea. I guess in an odd way this may complement (orb3000s?) the other thread vote about should it be HTC or not site? We don't know you server statistics of course but, we can hope that we can get to the stage where we can give our opinion on HTC honestly..... ( i wanted to deleted that and not type it as its not fair, i think we can, mostly ).
In my view its like a really cool manopoly. The games fun to play for almost all of us (i may/may not include myself in that after 2 years HTC abscense on next Friday) but for some it really sucks cos they keep losing.
I would think that moving it to an adult discussion of the real benefits as us users see if you become "open" but, we have no idea of the server costs... only you guys do.
(you do of course know that pressure will mount and mount and mount with regards to non-HTC phones. Your not silly Samsung, LG, Acer.... to name but a few know that the serious money is in smart phones in the next few years, not feature. In Slough o2 test 150-200 meg 4g phones a couple of weeks ago )
From what I understand, this is a developers forum. i.e. look to the potential rather than to the faults as is.
There are far too many distracting threads along the lines of "the virtual keyboard is killing me", "my wife left me because of the battery life", "the pink camera issue made me kill my neighbour". These type of threads may have valid points but they are all a bit melodramatic and really don't serve the purpose of the forum very well as they fan the flames of discontent rather that rise to the can-fix mindset. Despite what the trolls (for want of a better word) might like to say, this isn't a fanboi site, it's for those who realise a problem and want to solve it, simply just improve things, or just want to tweak things just because they can! I'm sure most of us here are all too aware of the shortcomings of Windows mobile software, just as we recognise the potential & strengths of this platform.
Speaking as a self-confessed technophile I will admit to spending an not inconsiderable amount of hard-earned money on utter crap i.e. gadgets that promised so much, yet delivered so little or were simply just badly executed. The HD2 is non of these, it's a stunning piece of design & engineering. It's not perfect, for example: the sharp edges of the camera lens annoy me a little, but it doesn't induce a desire in me to vent my spleen to the world.
I'm optimistic, I hope to survive longer than my HD2 and maybe via this forum HTC will hear my concern for this non-life threatening design flaw and engineer a more ergonomic lens cover for the next mobile phone I get. If they don't, it will undoubtedly leave a microscopic void in my life, but I'm strong enough to move on and no doubt the HTC designers will burn in hell for their tardiness.
xda-developers is what is says and is a great community that helps us get the best from these intriguing phones, so please diss the efforts of those who contribute and recognise that enthusiasm is a far better fertilizer for technology than manure.
Besides that, looking at my HD2 I've just noticed that it's going to be wet & windy at "My Location" tomorrow. That's fifty miles away and I'm not even going there, so it's a win for me!
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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TwitterSamsungJohn
Nice to hear from you John. Looking forward to hearing the news.
Interesting to hear.. But I wish it wasn't so "hush hush", because otherwise it starts to feel less of an equal community.
i guess i missed the part1.
what is this all about ?
I guess that instead of making another threads/parts it would be good to pin this thread down.
I, honestly, am very happy and interested in seeing how this cooperation will progress in time (and of course I'm not the only one here).
It's very encouraging to see company such as Samsung to start a cooperation (at whatever level) it gives kind of "legitimacy" to what people do here (although legitimacy might be too strong word, but still).
Either way I'm thrilled to see what the feature brings.
Regards,
Pawel
Hi there, John!
I personally am happy to see this sort of reach from a big company toward the ”little people” who often do more that a giant.
I also am wary regarding any possible positive outcome, considering you still have to overcome a strict and rigid hierarchy, while independent devs here are free to move as they please.
But it's nonetheless a great thing if Samsung really wants to be ”more open”.
Only one question: why, of all Sammy subsidiaries, has Seoul chosen Dallas (or any other US city for that matter), given that the most powerful and fruitful development effort was and still is directed towards Europe (SGS's biggest market to date)?
Cheers and all the best,
V.
Does the XDA-site administration actually produce anything on its own? Most (all?) of the people doing the actual hacking are members of the forum rather than working for it. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with... Coding/Hacking challenges? Can't really see much else that would actually need a collaboration with XDA instead of with the coders/hackers directly.
we're doing something but we won't tell you what!
but it's exciting i promise you!! we've discussed it with VIPs (which you are not part of, noob xda forum user!) and you may or may not see something about it later and it may or may not be exciting at all in the end (such as: oh look we opened a sgs 2 section !11)
oh god how much i dislike marketing lol
please, if you're going to do something for the community, just say it straight or don't say it at all
very good step by samsung
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we're doing something but we won't tell you what!
but it's exciting i promise you!!
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Last time someone told similar things I had to pay more tax, the kindergarten was more expensive and the atomic power plant contracts were extended instead of using cheap and tiny water power from Norway.
just say it straight or don't say it at all
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Straight talk - that's it.
If it is confidential keep it confidential until a result is ready to be announced officially.
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we're doing something but we won't tell you what!
but it's exciting i promise you!! we've discussed it with VIPs (which you are not part of, noob xda forum user!) and you may or may not see something about it later and it may or may not be exciting at all in the end (such as: oh look we opened a sgs 2 section !11)
please, if you're going to do something for the community, just say it straight or don't say it at all
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Excellent points!
+1.
hopefully good news to come!
i'll keep this topic open as long as XDA members behave themselves in a polite manner
lets try to be constructive, and make the best of this endeavor with Samsung.
It's not an every day chance that you see Big corporations willing to listen.
AllGamer said:
i'll keep this topic open as long as XDA members behave themselves in a polite manner
lets try to be constructive, and make the best of this endeavor with Samsung.
It's not an every day chance that you see Big corporations willing to listen.
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There are only two now open, because of all the bashing - I'm cautiously hopeful that this is going to be a great thing, Samsung actually listening.....
I'm sure the bashing and mob mentality being displayed here will endear the manufacturer to this community and force it to listen to us. People use some common sense and stop advertising just how uneducated and uncultured you are. Here we potentially have a manufacturer reaching out and testing the water, hoping to gather information from it's user community to better it's device and service to us but you idiots seem hell bent on driving them off. MORONS!
Thank you so much Samsung for this recognition of our community, it means a lot and we all are thankful. Can't wait to see what comes of this.
Please keep us informed
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I'd like to think 2.3, with input and improvements from the 'XDA elite' (I'll name no names ).
But I won't be upset if this is not the case, nothing bad can come of this joint venture...
(and I know I shouldn't, but I had to laugh )
If ever something does come out of this, I think xda should have a "developers only" sub-section where devs can collaborate with manufacturers. Regular users can still read, but only devs can post. We shall leave it to the owners to decide who is a "dev" and who isn't. That should help keep the riff-raff out. I'm tired of seeing threads in the dev section filled with the same stupid questions over and over again.
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Apology accepted
Also can I point out, a lot of the pie gsis don't have access points in the settings, hence the need for the editor.
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if you are like me that's what you need and you don't want to get flamed for asking too many questions as XDA is a developer site. If I've had an attitude here I seriously apologize and I mean it I'm not just saying that and it will not ever happen again.
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I hope you realize nobody has anything against asking questions. In fact, it's encouraged. You got "flamed" because of the way you handled the answers you got.
It wasn't exactly flaming either. You flat out insulted the members offering help because it wasn't detailed enough. And the suggestions offered assumed you done a bit research beforehand. And you got the appropriate response.
You were then spoon-fed the answer and here you are, still playing the victim of "flaming".
Ask as many questions as it takes, seriously. That's never a problem. Just don't insult the members answering because they don't spoon feed it to you.
I noticed you linked my guide on how to root without given me proper credits for even making that guide... I'll give 24 hours for that to change. If it wasn't for me hosting spaceminers twrps ( which I 100% don't mind doing) and my guide there would be a lot more issues my guy lol I think it would be fair to say I contribute enough to get my credits due is all lol hell honestly the group for this phone was starting to die and it was just me barely keeping the forum alive for While until madbat, starkiller2 and spaceminer came on lol
Big yikes on this thread.
madbat99 said:
I hope you realize nobody has anything against asking questions. In fact, it's encouraged. You got "flamed" because of the way you handled the answers you got.
It wasn't exactly flaming either. You flat out insulted the members offering help because it wasn't detailed enough. And the suggestions offered assumed you done a bit research beforehand. And you got the appropriate response.
You were then spoon-fed the answer and here you are, still playing the victim of "flaming".
Ask as many questions as it takes, seriously. That's never a problem. Just don't insult the members answering because they don't spoon feed it to you.
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Just because you think something doesn't mean that's the way it is. I wasn't referring to anything that happened recently with my op.
I was over the whole situation that happened. I admitted I was wrong. Now you come stir things up here?! Minding your own business will eliminate most of your problems in life. If you took what I said here in my op the wrong way that's you. Y'all can have this. I've already wrote and waiting for them to delete my account. So go to sleep tonight knowing that you won the battle that you wouldn't let go of.
I have nothing against anyone here. Sorry , again for what I posted last week. I shouldn't have done it. Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
And to the other person, my bad for not throwing you in the credits. It was a mistake not intentional or personal.
I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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SM210 said:
Just because you think something doesn't mean that's the way it is. I wasn't referring to anything that happened recently with my op.
I was over the whole situation that happened. I admitted I was wrong. Now you come stir things up here?! Minding your own business will eliminate most of your problems in life. If you took what I said here in my op the wrong way that's you. Y'all can have this. I've already wrote and waiting for them to delete my account. So go to sleep tonight knowing that you won the battle that you wouldn't let go of.
I have nothing against anyone here. Sorry , again for what I posted last week. I shouldn't have done it. Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
And to the other person, my bad for not throwing you in the credits. It was a mistake not intentional or personal.
I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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See I won't say much but from all the stuff I read there was ways to handle stuff that you didn't do to well handling and as bad as it sounds any meme you see about tech or dev community stuff about all of us Basically just being smartasses is kinda true lol you experienced first hand how troublesome this can be now when you take it to seriously lol. If you see all my post I'm basically just being chill and a smartass while still helping just enough for people to still learn, and people realize that and that's the fun of it lol. All of us are just very blunt and forward and we try to keep our stuff "chill". most the guides and other stuff made on here even do say you should have some advanced knowledge of using adb And android which means understanding Android 8 or higher now. Basically anything you may have learned from Android 7 and under is old news after Android 8 and up. Now if we were dealing with a phone that shipped with Android 7 then the knowledge you have would be helpful here. Which is why to try to teach instead of just give lol We all have our own things going but even with what i said being here is sort of like a job and you can't bring your personal life into your worklife ya know. I'm not trying to hate I'm just being forward and honest about this wholeass situation. In the end some of us here are adults so we should also try our best to not make this place look like Reddit by hating each other lmao. Your always welcome in the community bro lol
SM210 said:
Advice section
1. Minding your own .business will eliminate most of your problems in life.
2 Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
3 I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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1. Big thanks. now that I'm in my forties I was hoping I could get life advice from millennials.
2. Couldn't agree more. Resentment is corrosive.
3. I think I can help... See #1 in your advice section.
Keep your spirits up. Life gets tougher. In fact, no one gets out alive in the end.
But my statement stands, ask as many questions as it takes. If you get flamed for asking many questions, and you've done your due diligence ( searching thread for previous answers, reading back a few pages, etc.), Then I can almost guarantee the community will rally behind you in defense of you.
Sometimes a bunch of stuff gets deleted from a thread, and you haven't been here every 10 minutes to skim it, assumptions get made ( guilty)
And you misunderstood me too. I wasn't coming down on you. I was just saying don't let anything that happened make you stop asking questions. And don't let it make you doubt yourself about asking things.
So relax, take breath,
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean
$h!t snort and blaspheme
Let the heads cool and the engine run
Because in the end, everything we do...
Is just everything we've done.
madbat99 said:
1. Big thanks. now that I'm in my forties I was hoping I could get life advice from millennials.
2. Couldn't agree more. Resentment is corrosive.
3. I think I can help... See #1 in your advice section.
Keep your spirits up. Life gets tougher. In fact, no one gets out alive in the end.
But my statement stands, ask as many questions as it takes. If you get flamed for asking many questions, and you've done your due diligence ( searching thread for previous answers, reading back a few pages, etc.), Then I can almost guarantee the community will rally behind you in defense of you.
Sometimes a bunch of stuff gets deleted from a thread, and you've been here every 10 minutes to skim it, assumptions get made ( guilty)
And you misunderstood me too. I wasn't coming down on you. I was just saying don't let anything that happened make you stop asking questions. And don't let it make you doubt yourself about asking things.
So relax, take breath,
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean
$h!t snort and blaspheme
Let the heads cool and the engine run
Because in the end, everything we do...
Is just everything we've done.
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Am I a millennial??!!!! Batsy say it isn't so. I'll drive off one of these stupid useless cliffs! My new hip should get me at least Boomer status.
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@SM210 bat Grandpa is right. Don't stop asking questions. That won't get you anywhere, just keep in mind that sometimes the only answer is "I don't know" or a partial answer while someone bangs out a better answer. We can't know everything (except me, obviously, but I promised to only reveal myself to the chosen one, I hear it's a chicken in Boise)
Just remember, we all do this because we enjoy it. Most of us, some of us just like to watch me fall down stairs. But we genuinely enjoy helping and getting to the aha moment. I no doubt handled that poorly. I'm not perfect either (I know, it shocked me too)
I apologise for cursing at you, but I was a sailor and it's my native language. No hard feelings.
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Am I a millennial??!!!! Batsy say it isn't so. I'll drive off one of these stupid useless cliffs! My new hip should get me at least Boomer status.
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@SM210 bat Grandpa is right. Don't stop asking questions. That won't get you anywhere, just keep in mind that sometimes the only answer is "I don't know" or a partial answer while someone bangs out a better answer. We can't know everything (except me, obviously, but I promised to only reveal myself to the chosen one, I hear it's a chicken in Boise)
Just remember, we all do this because we enjoy it. Most of us, some of us just like to watch me fall down stairs. But we genuinely enjoy helping and getting to the aha moment. I no doubt handled that poorly. I'm not perfect either (I know, it shocked me too)
I apologise for cursing at you, but I was a sailor and it's my native language. No hard feelings.
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I couldn't possibly consider you a millennial. Lol.
Hey, I think I'm from the beginning of gen x
And I heard that chicken in Boise plays tic tac toe, and never loses. I should go see him. Wise oldd bird
madbat99 said:
I couldn't possibly consider you a millennial. Lol.
Hey, I think I'm from the beginning of gen x
And I heard that chicken in Boise plays tic tac toe, and never loses. I should go see him. Wise oldd bird
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Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
Starkiller2 said:
Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
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Yeah yer probably gen x too.
I am in New Orleans, where there are wild city chickens that literally look both ways before crossing the road. Lol. I've seen it.
The locals here call chicken ,the meal, "yard bird". LMAO. No joke
Starkiller2 said:
Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
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Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
Spaceminer said:
Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
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Man..... That was beautifully put. I have never heard it put better. I'm gonna cry a little. I remember some of the absolutely suicidally dumb things my brothers used to do, and the things we were allowed to do, and I cringe.
I couldn't imagine sending my kids outside to play now and not seeing them till dark. Or be home alone all day in the summer. But then again we used to sled down the roof with cardboard boxes.... Which rocked. I remember seeing the internet become a real thing, cell phones that had battery packs that were 12 lbs, and when girls started making noise, we watched equal rights start to gain real momentum. We saw more advancement in our childhood than anyone ever has.
Spaceminer said:
Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
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"76" here. I think you still count at the tail end of gen x. Similar stories anyways. VHS, NES, all the goods. I was in grade school in the 80's. 89 might have been junior high.