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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
I wonder pow much they'll rape yu for data charges.
I used to live in Vancouver, and know what a rip-off data charges are up there.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/21/c6305.html
http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/10/16/one-things-for-certain-about-the-g-phone/
** this says that rogers has the 1700/2100 AWS spectrum in Canada. Presumably, the Dream and Sapphire (there is no such thing as a "G1" -- this is a TMOBILE-ONLY rebranding of the Dream) launch will coincide with the enablement of this network.
Oh, you'll note how much they paid for AWS.... "In total, Rogers will pay $999,367,000."
heh heh... nearly a billion smackers, but they've got 20 MHz in all areas of the country.
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
dascientist said:
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
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You, I'm sorry to say, are an IDIOT.
If you would actually read the whole thread, you would see that no, Rogers also owns rights to a 20 MHz spread of the 1700/2100 AWS band as well, which they will presumably be launching with the Dream. Why pay a BILLION DOLLARS for something if you're not going to USE IT?
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So June 2nd G1 from T-Mobile can use 3G ?!
what about fido?!
I'm waiting for $30/6GB data plan
its like... almost unlimited
nothings for sure yet...
either rogers will start running the new band that t-mobile runs, or the devices have a different radio compatible to rogers' current 3g band
update: seems like the Canadian HTC Dream will run on AT&T / Rogers 3G bands:
http://www.androidincanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sellsheet1.jpg
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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
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the 3G wont work with the tmobile version. different bands for 3G.
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.
Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.
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First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!
So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.
Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.
T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.
Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!
Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...
that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.
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Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
DarknessTM said:
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet
Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform
Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?
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Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?
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I can confirm that it will work on AT&T's 3G coz I'm using it in NYC
so its not locked??? cuz i tried it with the fido sim and it worked....
Apparently
I read that pretty much all current HTC GSM devices from Europe and Asia do indeed work on American 3G networks. For the longest time we were tricked into thinking the HTC Touch HD only worked on American Edge networks. However, a recent document released by HTC proves that it does have support for American 3G bands. I am waiting for the HTC hero to come out for ORANGE. At which point I will drop the big bucks to get it early.
Thats incorrect. the Touch HD papers were before the phone was even released, so those specs were never real. 3G networks in europe uses 2100 whereas at&t in the US uses 850/1900 3G bands. Not compatible.
But Rogers in canada uses the same exact bands as at&t usa. So you will have 3G in america. (Afterall Rogers used to be "Rogers at&t"
internet spazed, double posted. Someone plz delete this post.
I'm on Rogers HTC Magic too on AT&T in California, 3G works fine. You just need to sim unlock it and you're good to go.
Same thing. 3G AT&T in California.
can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks
motionUS said:
can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks
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It's locked in the ROM it looks like, because not even market enabler lets me see everything.
Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?
motionUS said:
Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?
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Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.
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Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.
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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market? If rogers releases a update to open up the market will our phone get this update?
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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market?
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There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.
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There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.
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from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.
motionUS said:
from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.
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I tried it when I first rooted and I didn't notice any difference.
sorry to necro a bit on this one.
I just picked up the google ION and I also have AT&T cell service (in southern NJ).
So far I have only been able to use edge connections, I have yet to see 3G kick in. I checked the AT&T coverage map and I should be soaked in 3G so Im curious if there are any settings/tweaks I can apply to activate 3G on the ION.
I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
I would absolutely love to have 3G enabled on this phone so any info would be greatly appreciated.
For reference, the only APN i have set up is wap.cingular (ive looked at many other lists but this is the only one I got to work with data [edge]... this is the only one tech support from ATT gave me that worked as well).
Thanks!
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I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G
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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G
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ahhh, so just having the supported bands is not enough, it has to be on the correct specific radio? ive been googling my ass off about this and thats the first concrete response/piece of information ive seen. many thanks.
in light of that information, would I be able to pick up a rogers magic and have it work with ATT 3G then? From what ive read here it appears that the rogers magic has 850/1900 as its 3G radio, correct?
looks like im going to have to put this ion back on ebay, ugh.
yah if you get a rogers magic then you will be good.
Hi,
Sorry if this is already posted elsewhere. I did a search and couldn't find a definitive answer. I was just wondering if I were to get my x10a from Rogers unlocked, would it work on Bell or Telus?
yes it would work with Bell or Telus
Really? Those useless Telus reps I called can't even confirm to me that the phone is able to run on the Telus network. I even told her I had friends that had this phone on the Telus network. -.-
Oh well! Time to get mine soon, hopefully. Sigh. Long way to go!
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yes it would work with Bell or Telus
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Are you sure?
I had a LG chocolate from telus before my x10, and I know it didn't have a sim card, I don't think any telus phones have a sim card... I have never tried to set up a phone from another carrier into telus, mind you, I just know that you can't bring a telus phone to another carrier that uses sim cards, because there isn't one.
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Are you sure?
I had a LG chocolate from telus before my x10, and I know it didn't have a sim card, I don't think any telus phones have a sim card... I have never tried to set up a phone from another carrier into telus, mind you, I just know that you can't bring a telus phone to another carrier that uses sim cards, because there isn't one.
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Bellus's new network is HSDPA and uses SIM card
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Bellus's new network is HSDPA and uses SIM card
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Well, good to know! Not that I would want to go back there.
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mind you, not that I want to stay on Rogers either
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Are you sure?
I had a LG chocolate from telus before my x10, and I know it didn't have a sim card, I don't think any telus phones have a sim card... I have never tried to set up a phone from another carrier into telus, mind you, I just know that you can't bring a telus phone to another carrier that uses sim cards, because there isn't one.
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Well there site says they use em.
Quick Google result
i think people have trouble with updates without using the authorized dealers.
You are better off with rogers even it is expensive.
im using the x10a from rogers on bell right now, got it unlocked and it works perfectly. =)
Use X10a on TELUS, work perfectly.
Make sure you enter the right APN information for the data connection.
TELUS runs on UMTS/HSPA 850MHz, 1900MHz.
X10a supported 850MHz, 900MHz, 1900MHz, and 2100MHz
been with all 3 canadian carriers in past year. i must say rogers is not only marginally cheaper then the other two, but are more "with the times" .
bell is just horrible, they seem to think the iphone 3gs is the latest greatest phone......riiiggghhtt... bell and telus both have horrible cust service..
sorry to vent but instead of going through the hastle of putting a rogers phone on a crappier network....just switch!!. and as of this month rogers 3g speeds are over double what i got with telus and bell...
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
Well Shaw is coming out with a 3g AND 4g network soon, supposedly.
Keegan_P said:
Well Shaw is coming out with a 3g AND 4g network soon, supposedly.
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Rogers owns Shaw, just so ya know.
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Rogers owns Shaw, just so ya know.
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Who knows, they might want ANOTHER service provider to broadcast 4g. I mean, they own Fido for lowend phones, they're releasing chatr soon for god knows what, Rogers loves to split stuff off.
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Who knows, they might want ANOTHER service provider to broadcast 4g. I mean, they own Fido for lowend phones, they're releasing chatr soon for god knows what, Rogers loves to split stuff off.
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Oh I know, just saying it'll all be price matched so to speak.
Bell's IMEI Tool: http://www.bell.ca/shopping/jsp/pageblock_styles/ToolBox/imeitool/imeitool.jsp / http://www.bell.ca/shopping/SIM-card/69170.details
Telu's IMEI Tool: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/phones_and_devices/devicecompatibility.shtml
I'm using an x10a I got from Rogers on the Bell network. It works fine after you unlock it. After you root it, it gets rid of the Rogers splash screen as well. The only catch is you have to manually input Bell's APN or your 3G won't work.
The only reason I stuck with Bell is because of a deal I got through retention to renew my contract. I wouldn't be able to get anything if I sign up new to Rogers. Which begs the question, why was I with Bell in the first place...
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I'm using an x10a I got from Rogers on the Bell network. It works fine after you unlock it. After you root it, it gets rid of the Rogers splash screen as well. The only catch is you have to manually input Bell's APN or your 3G won't work.
The only reason I stuck with Bell is because of a deal I got through retention to renew my contract. I wouldn't be able to get anything if I sign up new to Rogers. Which begs the question, why was I with Bell in the first place...
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As far as I know.. From MY own experience. Rogers .. I would like to say
The name that suits them best is "Robbers"
Telus by far has the most superior cust service and because I am on a rentention plan I will stick with Telus. Of course I want my Xperia x10 on the network & YES I will get my phone tomorrow and hopefully everything goes right.
I'm just glad to find out the x10 works on Telus network
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250671242249&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
This hero is the Telus Canadian version and if you read the descrip it says CDMA but everything else says GSM, so which is it? I want to use it on ATT
Since this is the telus canadian version would I be able to use it with ATT 3G on cheap 10/month medianet plan?
Hoping to get this phone soon with your guys help, thanks
That looks like a gsm hero. Looks just like mine which i use on at&t. Except since that one is telus, it is compatible with at&t 3g network. I have a malaysian hero so i can only use edge.
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That looks like a gsm hero. Looks just like mine which i use on at&t. Except since that one is telus, it is compatible with at&t 3g network. I have a malaysian hero so i can only use edge.
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Do you have a internet plan? If so which one
Does att force you to have a pda plan?
I dont have a internet plan, too broke =(. at&t doesnt force me to get one because they dont know what phone i have. heros are not at&t branded so they dont have my imei number. if you have at&t branded phones like iphones they will force the data plan on you. but for our case we can decide for ourselves whether to have a data plan or not