The bootloader unlock says pressing unlock bootloader will void you warranty.. is it possible to lock the bootloader back in the future and if so will the Nexus One still know its bootloader has been previously unlocked?
Im kinda uncomfortable with voiding the warranty on my 530$ phone...
Why does google even do that anyway? You cant do any permanant damage to your phone by changing ROMs...
melterx12 said:
You cant do any permanant damage to your phone by changing ROMs...
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Tell that to the many people who bricked their G1.
You could try the unlock code and just change "unlock" to "lock" and see what happens. Or, even try and run the unlock one again, see if you get the popup to not continue and see if that relocks it. That's all I can think of.
Ps. I'm not saying either of these options work, they're just ideas. I take no responsibility if you try these and jack your phone.
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Tell that to the many people who bricked their G1.
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OUCH..hopefully, you are not one of them.
you CAN NOT brick your android phone by installing a ROM. you CAN brick it by installing a radio or SPL, which is NOT required in the nexus one at all (since the bootloader itself gives you the option to unlock it)
melterx12 said:
you CAN NOT brick your android phone by installing a ROM. you CAN brick it by installing a radio or SPL, which is NOT required in the nexus one at all (since the bootloader itself gives you the option to unlock it)
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I am well aware of this but unlocking is the first step down that road. When it is locked the potential for damage is more contained. (For the record m G1 has never been bricked. I wait a few weeks to let others take the risks before I jump in, which usually saves me grief.)
Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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Wow I was just really upset when there was no "LIKE" button. I'm too used to Facebook...
but yeah same I'm so excited. and wow halfway through this post i just hallucinated a truck sound and ran down stairs and onto the driveway. no fedex truck in sight
deprecate said:
Ah the days of the G1 I was kinda hoping that the methods needed to bring the nexus to freedom would be the same as the G1. I spent many-an-hour having a good laugh at those who were too impatient to bother reading certain directions.
I did love my G1 and come tomorrow, I plan to fully love my N1.
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lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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I am well aware of this but unlocking is the first step down that road. When it is locked the potential for damage is more contained. (For the record m G1 has never been bricked. I wait a few weeks to let others take the risks before I jump in, which usually saves me grief.)
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That's not true at all... i'm assuming when you say "that road" you mean the road to "brick-dom" and that's just plain wrong. It's not like your unlocked nexus' spl's gonna go flashing radio's and spl's on its own now. It's all about your decisions, so your decision to unlock your bootloader, is independent from your decision to brick your phone.
Regardless, you couldn't brick the nexus the traditional way even if you wanted to... you wouldn't be flashing any different spls
hiddengopher said:
lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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You are more than welcome to my job! I'm tired of it right now.
hiddengopher said:
lucky lucky man, without a job, a high school student can't get one of these bad boys
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im a high school student and at this point in time dont have a job... but i know how to use ebay
melterx12 said:
im a high school student and at this point in time dont have a job... but i know how to use ebay
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Oh Master, please teach us how.
I am guessing that when you unlock the bootloader, it writes something somewhere that can't ever be unwritten, so even if you flashed the original one back, they'd know.
Some clever ROM hacker will comb through the innards of the N1 and will probably figure out what gets written and figure out how to circumvent it. Just wait a few days...
Not sure if its possible
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I was wondering if I would get in trouble if TMobile find out that I have JFv6.1. Can any tell me what is the punishment
besides voiding your warranty should anything go wrong there wont be any trouble from them
First, there is no need to use all caps, it is much easer on the eyes if you type normally.
Second, no. As we currently understand it, t-mobile does not keep track of who runs what firmware. If they eventually do, it is very unlikely that they would target those using it directly, they would most likely try to just block it in future updates.
so the fbi wont be knocking on my door
jgu71424 said:
so the fbi wont be knocking on my door
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i think thats a little overreacting to think that >.<
No but someone might come kick your door in and remove your capslock key. Hopefully they'll kick you in the ass too.
**** relax you all and thanks no more caps for me
wow some people have harsh statements LOL lets keep it civil.
And for those wanting to know T-Mobile now tells you how to do it by directing you to XDA.
That is right on the t-mobile forums they tell you how to root your phone and use JF's firmware.
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No but someone might come kick your door in and remove your capslock key. Hopefully they'll kick you in the ass too.
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^ LOL'D
OP: T-Mobile currently does not have any policy on unlocked and/or modded G1 phones. This came from the mouth of an employee over the phone- the one who pays my phone bill called T-Mobile and asked about it before he allowed me to root my phone.
You have to remember that Android is, after all, supposed to be "open source".
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&thread.id=31470
That basically says you can do it, BTW I have yet to hear of anyone actually "bricking" their phone. In fact never heard of anyone really "bricking" an HTC device.
Yeah, rooting your phone doesn't (And probably never will) void your warranty.
jgu71424, i rewrote the OP verbatim but used lower case letters. Next time, just remember to keep it cool because all caps refers to you yelling.
neoobs said:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&thread.id=31470
That basically says you can do it, BTW I have yet to hear of anyone actually "bricking" their phone. In fact never heard of anyone really "bricking" an HTC device.
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I think the only way to brick a g1 is to mess up the SPL update.
Hi all,
Just picking up my new unlocked Nexus One this week. Cant wait.
In your opinion what are they "must do" things that need to doen straight away with this device to improve performance, add feature, optimise etc
Cheers
Chumby
Hmm... I'd say SEARCH. Cuz it's been asked before.
Brick it! There haven't been enough bricks yet for us to end up with any threads on "There must be a way to unbrick it, stop holding out and fix it you guys that broke my phone!" Those are always a good time!
For real, though... if you keep it stock you will be happy... check out Swype, it is amazing keyboard! Also take a look at the Live Earth Rotation wallpaper, is it my favorite!
I would also say unlock and root and flash a Cyan, then a Desire, then Enom's, then pick which one you liked the most, and rock that for a couple days, then flash again!
Hi there,
Yea have been searching but cant seem to find anything specific.... about the BEST things to do straight away.
Can you remember the name of the thread?
Cheers
Chumby
fap perhaps? It's a large screen you know.
Thanks for that
Ok... thanks for the advice here... will check out the apps mentioned and then the various Roms...
Cheers
Chumby
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fap perhaps? It's a large screen you know.
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seconded!!
Swype...
Now have the N1 and started to get going with it....
Also searched for swype and checked a few other postings... this keboard looks nice.... does it work as good as they say on the N1?
Cheers
Chumby
No
everyone on the internet lied
First thing to do would be to unlock the bootloader! This opens tons of possibilities!
pjcforpres said:
Brick it! There haven't been enough bricks yet for us to end up with any threads on "There must be a way to unbrick it, stop holding out and fix it you guys that broke my phone!" Those are always a good time!
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hahaha thats just mean
Root it and unlock bootloader....after that,start having fun flashing all the roms.
Ya def root it then put on cyanogenmod. Don't know how I lived without for the past few days. World of difference.
First, charge put hte battery in and don't turn on phone, charge battery up all the way until its turns green light, then wait another two hours then power it on, then don't plug it in to computer or adapter and let battery drain until phone auto shuts off this will calibrate the battery to last the longest. Next don't unlock/root it right away play around with it for a week make sure everything is right with the phone no defects etc, because one you root/unlock it you void your warranty. After that its all up to you!
Make sure the phone works well and there are no defects, give it 2 weeks to a month before unlocking the bootloader...
1st buy this ASAP :
http://tinyurl.com/yh5pknx
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fap perhaps? It's a large screen you know.
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Flash would be handy.
I flashed the right hspl 1024 version. Then I flashed the wrong rom. It was one from dutty on 3/28. Now I have no bootloader mode, no boot, no charging, It sometimes gives a error for drivers when I plug it in. It will not hard reset, or go into boot loader mode from the buttons on the phone. Could some explain how to bring this back because I cant return mine.
Mistakes happen and that is why the HD2 has this separate forum. I hope there is a way to bring yours back. I wish the different ROM versions weren't so different as to cause this to even be possible...
I've done it before for a g1
frankd14321 said:
I've done it before for a g1
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That's a completely different set of hardware, and has no bearing on whether or not someone can bring an HD2 back from the dead. Android phones are much, much harder to totally brick.
Let me tell you I did the EXACT same thing and I couldnt get mine to turn on or ANYTHING it was completely dead! I called Tmo and I had to send it back to them under "defective" and they sent me a brand new one and I will NEVER make that mistake again!
Sorry I miss understood. I thought he was asking if he could return the phone.
I have returned a g1 I bricked before.
lol
shokouhi said:
I flashed the right hspl 1024 version. Then I flashed the wrong rom. It was one from dutty on 3/28. Now I have no bootloader mode, no boot, no charging, It sometimes gives a error for drivers when I plug it in. It will not hard reset, or go into boot loader mode from the buttons on the phone. Could some explain how to bring this back because I cant return mine.
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I think I made this guide on another forums
SRY to break it up 2 u but you have a HARD BRICK
Yup! ^_^ sad I know No way of fixing this one
You should try this
Step 1: Enjoy staring at your cool new HD2 for hours
Step 2: Scream REALLY LOUD! cause you got a Brick phone
Step 3: find some one you REALLY DONT LIKE
Step 4: throw your cool new hard brick at them
Step 5: laugh out loud and say some guy from the internet told you to do it
Step 6: sue XDA and ME for inducing you to try new things with your cool phone
Step 7: have sex, drink a beer, watch a movie and Go buy a NEW phone
Step 8: ENJOY
-Note-
if you get another brick phone please follow steps 1 through 5 agn.
gthmcty1 said:
Let me tell you I did the EXACT same thing and I couldnt get mine to turn on or ANYTHING it was completely dead! I called Tmo and I had to send it back to them under "defective" and they sent me a brand new one and I will NEVER make that mistake again!
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While T-Mobile can send the phone back to HTC for a reflash, there is still overhead associated to this. I'm afraid too many of these "bricked" phones may lead HTC to harden the SPL security.
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I'm afraid too many of these "bricked" phones may lead HTC to harden the SPL security.
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That depends on whether they are able to start the phone enough to see the spl. If they can't, then they won't know it has a hard spl installed.
If it's within the return/exchange window I'd bring it back with a "I have no idea it just stopped working" look of innocence. I doubt most of the TMo sales staff even know how to check things like SPL numbers, etc.
If you deny any wrongdoing, and plead your case, i bet they swap it for you just to make you go away. And if you do get a no answer, I'd even try again with a different staff person, some are gonna be easier than others I'd imagine.
Or, alternatively, if you bought insurance, you could drop it in a bucket of water and bring it in soaking wet. Of course technically that's fraud, so let your conscience be your guide on that one.
Good luck.
I doubt most of the TMo sales staff even know how to check things like SPL numbers, etc.
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I'd like to point out a lot of them DO probably at least search these forms and have a slight understanding of the idea. they are people with really nice phones too you know Sorry, just had to throw that out there.
rickyzone said:
I'd like to point out a lot of them DO probably at least search these forms and have a slight understanding of the idea. they are people with really nice phones too you know Sorry, just had to throw that out there.
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The T-Mo salesman that sold me my HD2, told me about this sight. As well as flashing the ROM, doing cabs and dll files. So yeah, while most will not have a clue, there are a few that have a full understanding.
Here here my friend
a042349 said:
Or, alternatively, if you bought insurance, you could drop it in a bucket of water and bring it in soaking wet. Of course technically that's fraud, so let your conscience be your guide on that one.
Good luck.
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Conscience? What is this mystical thing you speak of?
Hi guys
Like a idiot ive flashed danger spl without updating the radio and surprise ive got a brick. My phone insurance has told me the g1 has a 2 year warranty and ive got to take it back to tmobile first.
so the questions are,
1 without recovery or fastboot can i fix it at home?
2 if i cant fix it can tmobile tell what ive done to the phone
3 is there anyway i can completly break the phone so it wont even power on so tmobile cant tell what ive done but still replace it under warranty
thanks
Mick
mick90 said:
Hi guys
Like a idiot ive flashed danger spl without updating the radio and surprise ive got a brick. My phone insurance has told me the g1 has a 2 year warranty and ive got to take it back to tmobile first.
so the questions are,
1 without recovery or fastboot can i fix it at home?
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If you're good with a soldering iron... cost about $5 for parts you need to make a jtag interface. Read the jtag thread in the dev forum.
2 if i cant fix it can tmobile tell what ive done to the phone
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CAN? Certainly. WILL? doubtful.
3 is there anyway i can completly break the phone so it wont even power on so tmobile cant tell what ive done but still replace it under warranty
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Smashing the thing with a sledge hammer should do it, but I strongly believe that this will actually void your warranty.
I suggest that this is a real bone-headed move on your part and you deserve what you got. Returning the thing now for warranty is FRAUD since this is CLEARLY *your fault*. Flashing the 1.33.2005 SPL is not only POINTLESS, it also can be done SAFELY *even with a non-matching radio installed*. Of course you would have to actually read the instructions to learn what the safe way actually IS. Not that its hard to find... its in this forum's WIKI: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/phpwiki213/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Bootloader (look under "new/safe install instructions"). Wow, you didn't read that, did you?
Pointless, you ask? Absofrigginuseless: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
aint you Mr happy
thanks for your advice
you should be fine (just don't tell them what you did) however he is right it is fraud.
and you WERE stupid enough to do the one thing that can brick your g1 soo.........
themapleboy said:
you should be fine (just don't tell them what you did) however he is right it is fraud.
and you WERE stupid enough to do the one thing that can brick your g1 soo.........
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thanks you very much, and i do mean that.
i know i made a mistake. Like most mistakes it was a moment of stupidness
just exploring my options for getting the phone sorted.
And i like your more user friendly reply
Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
Already signed and added to sig, thanks.
Signed allredy. Hope in the future we have free Android.
thanks for this. signed up. they just lost a Sensation customer because of this.
Come on people. Hit this up
Bump again..
this is just wasting of time.... you need to grow up people.
greg17477 said:
this is just wasting of time.... you need to grow up people.
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That didn't even make sense. Dumbest thing I heard all day. Thanks for the laugh. Anyways back on topic, hit this up.
greg17477 said:
this is just wasting of time.... you need to grow up people.
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In a way, it may be. If you think of it, MOST HTC phones come with locked bootloaders. If you have not seen already, please read:
http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all...otloader-but-its-big-problem.html#post2725969
I signed the groubal anyway
Signed...................
e334 said:
In a way, it may be. If you think of it, MOST HTC phones come with locked bootloaders. If you have not seen already, please read:
http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all...otloader-but-its-big-problem.html#post2725969
I signed the groubal anyway
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Yes, its an interresting post. But this concerns mostly (if not only) us the customisers. But the avarage Joe (which is like 99,9% of the sold phones) is happy with the phone as it comes and he doesnt need open or unlocked bootloader or phone. The point is, the avarage Joe is save from bricking his phone and thats a good thing from Joes point of view and also from the phone manufacturers (they want to sell phones, not swap the damaged ones). Ofcourse i would like to get open bootloader or phone straight out of the box, but i fully understand why the companies do not want it.
greg17477 said:
Yes, its an interresting post. But this concerns mostly (if not only) us the customisers. But the avarage Joe (which is like 99,9% of the sold phones) is happy with the phone as it comes and he doesnt need open or unlocked bootloader or phone. The point is, the avarage Joe is save from bricking his phone and thats a good thing from Joes point of view and also from the phone manufacturers (they want to sell phones, not swap the damaged ones). Ofcourse i would like to get open bootloader or phone straight out of the box, but i fully understand why the companies do not want it.
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Bricking... that's one thing but you didn't mention the big picture.
Money
I love it, you love it, and HTC sure as hell does too. Nothing personal it's just business, business as usual... simple as that.
If it weren't for this fabulous forum I would of probably upgraded my phone twice by now if not at least once since owning the HD2, provided I had enough funds... All these "unauthorized" OS updates I'm getting has definitely been a factor for NOT upgrading my phone. That's profit loss for both HTC and the carriers that sell them. Then there's all these "unenlightened" ones who come to this forum and brick their phones because they've failed to properly follow directions. Then turn around and claim fraudulent warranty damage. I don't know how much net loss this actually costs but I'm pretty sure it's enough that it makes a difference. Either way, at the end of the day it's all about maximizing profits. This isn't a charity folks..... HTC has expensive mouths to feed.
do you really need 2 threads going? 1 in gneral and 1 in android?
presonally it doesnt bother me if they lock it or not, they are doing it for business reasons and as stated above money, i was going to reply to this yesterday but after typing out what i was going to put, most people would get pissy and *****y
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Bricking... that's one thing but you didn't mention the big picture.
Money
I love it, you love it, and HTC sure as hell does too. Nothing personal it's just business, business as usual... simple as that.
If it weren't for this fabulous forum I would of probably upgraded my phone twice by now if not at least once since owning the HD2, provided I had enough funds... All these "unauthorized" OS updates I'm getting has definitely been a factor for NOT upgrading my phone. That's profit loss for both HTC and the carriers that sell them. Then there's all these "unenlightened" ones who come to this forum and brick their phones because they've failed to properly follow directions. Then turn around and claim fraudulent warranty damage. I don't know how much net loss this actually costs but I'm pretty sure it's enough that it makes a difference. Either way, at the end of the day it's all about maximizing profits. This isn't a charity folks..... HTC has expensive mouths to feed.
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yeah i mentioned it (they want sell and not swap the damaged ones), but not as clearly as you did
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
was just gonna post the same thing
greg17477 said:
this is just wasting of time.... you need to grow up people.
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Ha. You got anything else to say? Didnt think so
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Ha. You got anything else to say? Didnt think so
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Haha awesome. its amazing when the people speak and those in charge actually listen.
signed it!