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So tonight I was feeling good and decided to try messing around with my Rogers Dream. The first thing I did was install the latest radio firmware. And after applying the patch I noticed something... the radio and SPL should already be updated because I followed H's instructions on rooting the phone. I prayed that I was wrong. I looked on the Rogers logo as I was booting my phone as a wave of horror washed over me. It's bricked.
Ok, that was dumb. But let's move on. Any suggestions on what I should do? I've looked around and the impression I get is there is no way to unbrick it. Now if I'm completely wrong then I would be most grateful if someone could direct me to instructions for unbricking my phone. If not, I'm going to try sending it back to Rogers... which I don't look forward to doing.
If they don't fix it then would a bricked Rogers Dream help anyone? I'm willing to send it over to anyone who could make use of it.
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holdennull said:
Yeah, I did. I'm pretty sure it's bricked. However, I just got off the phone with Rogers, after they told me to take out the battery and put it back in and hold HOME and POWER. I did as I was told, pretending that I haven't the slightest clue. Now they're sending me a new phone and I have to send mine back so they can check for water damages and stuff; hopefully they don't bother to check for my tampering and then do something horrible to me for doing so.
Thanks a lot for the input guys. Sorry for wasting your time.
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holdennull said:
So tonight I was feeling good and decided to try messing around with my Rogers Dream. The first thing I did was install the latest radio firmware. And after applying the patch I noticed something... the radio and SPL should already be updated because I followed H's instructions on rooting the phone. I prayed that I was wrong. I looked on the Rogers logo as I was booting my phone as a wave of horror washed over me. It's bricked.
Ok, that was dumb. But let's move on. Any suggestions on what I should do? I've looked around and the impression I get is there is no way to unbrick it. Now if I'm completely wrong then I would be most grateful if someone could direct me to instructions for unbricking my phone. If not, I'm going to try sending it back to Rogers... which I don't look forward to doing.
If they don't fix it then would a bricked Rogers Dream help anyone? I'm willing to send it over to anyone who could make use of it.
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Does holding Home+power or camera+power on bootup get you anywhere?
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Does holding Home+power or camera+power on bootup get you anywhere?
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I've tried that but it doesn't do a thing (well it's still stuck at the Rogers screen).
pop battery out
holdennull said:
I've tried that but it doesn't do a thing (well it's still stuck at the Rogers screen).
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did u pop it out and try again...
Yeah, I did. I'm pretty sure it's bricked. However, I just got off the phone with Rogers, after they told me to take out the battery and put it back in and hold HOME and POWER. I did as I was told, pretending that I haven't the slightest clue. Now they're sending me a new phone and I have to send mine back so they can check for water damages and stuff; hopefully they don't bother to check for my tampering and then do something horrible to me for doing so.
Thanks a lot for the input guys. Sorry for wasting your time.
jut to be safe...
what the hell if they r sending u a new one, drop it in water anyway.... maybe they wont be able to check if u modded it in anyway if u do that.
pistol4413 said:
what the hell if they r sending u a new one, drop it in water anyway.... maybe they wont be able to check if u modded it in anyway if u do that.
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Bad idea... water damage is not covered by warranty so he will get charged full price of the device. "Bricked" phone will be revived by HTC and will be sold or set out as a warranty replacements. T-mo users have had their share of bricks so we have an idea of how it works
On the side note.... HTC Dream will most likely survive water damage if you let it dry for about a week. Well, at least my phone did
Aren't there water tamper stickers in these phones? They change colour when exposed to water, so Rogers would find out easily if there is the possibility of water damage.
Hi holdennull,
I have rogers G1 bricked while doing SPL upgrade talk to rogers tech support and they ask me to send the phone and they will send me the replacment, but I have same question that did you charged for tempering or rogers only look for physical and water damanges.
Please advise
I flashed the right hspl 1024 version. Then I flashed the wrong rom. It was one from dutty on 3/28. Now I have no bootloader mode, no boot, no charging, It sometimes gives a error for drivers when I plug it in. It will not hard reset, or go into boot loader mode from the buttons on the phone. Could some explain how to bring this back because I cant return mine.
Mistakes happen and that is why the HD2 has this separate forum. I hope there is a way to bring yours back. I wish the different ROM versions weren't so different as to cause this to even be possible...
I've done it before for a g1
frankd14321 said:
I've done it before for a g1
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That's a completely different set of hardware, and has no bearing on whether or not someone can bring an HD2 back from the dead. Android phones are much, much harder to totally brick.
Let me tell you I did the EXACT same thing and I couldnt get mine to turn on or ANYTHING it was completely dead! I called Tmo and I had to send it back to them under "defective" and they sent me a brand new one and I will NEVER make that mistake again!
Sorry I miss understood. I thought he was asking if he could return the phone.
I have returned a g1 I bricked before.
lol
shokouhi said:
I flashed the right hspl 1024 version. Then I flashed the wrong rom. It was one from dutty on 3/28. Now I have no bootloader mode, no boot, no charging, It sometimes gives a error for drivers when I plug it in. It will not hard reset, or go into boot loader mode from the buttons on the phone. Could some explain how to bring this back because I cant return mine.
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I think I made this guide on another forums
SRY to break it up 2 u but you have a HARD BRICK
Yup! ^_^ sad I know No way of fixing this one
You should try this
Step 1: Enjoy staring at your cool new HD2 for hours
Step 2: Scream REALLY LOUD! cause you got a Brick phone
Step 3: find some one you REALLY DONT LIKE
Step 4: throw your cool new hard brick at them
Step 5: laugh out loud and say some guy from the internet told you to do it
Step 6: sue XDA and ME for inducing you to try new things with your cool phone
Step 7: have sex, drink a beer, watch a movie and Go buy a NEW phone
Step 8: ENJOY
-Note-
if you get another brick phone please follow steps 1 through 5 agn.
gthmcty1 said:
Let me tell you I did the EXACT same thing and I couldnt get mine to turn on or ANYTHING it was completely dead! I called Tmo and I had to send it back to them under "defective" and they sent me a brand new one and I will NEVER make that mistake again!
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While T-Mobile can send the phone back to HTC for a reflash, there is still overhead associated to this. I'm afraid too many of these "bricked" phones may lead HTC to harden the SPL security.
OCedHrt said:
I'm afraid too many of these "bricked" phones may lead HTC to harden the SPL security.
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That depends on whether they are able to start the phone enough to see the spl. If they can't, then they won't know it has a hard spl installed.
If it's within the return/exchange window I'd bring it back with a "I have no idea it just stopped working" look of innocence. I doubt most of the TMo sales staff even know how to check things like SPL numbers, etc.
If you deny any wrongdoing, and plead your case, i bet they swap it for you just to make you go away. And if you do get a no answer, I'd even try again with a different staff person, some are gonna be easier than others I'd imagine.
Or, alternatively, if you bought insurance, you could drop it in a bucket of water and bring it in soaking wet. Of course technically that's fraud, so let your conscience be your guide on that one.
Good luck.
I doubt most of the TMo sales staff even know how to check things like SPL numbers, etc.
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I'd like to point out a lot of them DO probably at least search these forms and have a slight understanding of the idea. they are people with really nice phones too you know Sorry, just had to throw that out there.
rickyzone said:
I'd like to point out a lot of them DO probably at least search these forms and have a slight understanding of the idea. they are people with really nice phones too you know Sorry, just had to throw that out there.
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The T-Mo salesman that sold me my HD2, told me about this sight. As well as flashing the ROM, doing cabs and dll files. So yeah, while most will not have a clue, there are a few that have a full understanding.
Here here my friend
a042349 said:
Or, alternatively, if you bought insurance, you could drop it in a bucket of water and bring it in soaking wet. Of course technically that's fraud, so let your conscience be your guide on that one.
Good luck.
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Conscience? What is this mystical thing you speak of?
OK. After I installed HSPL and mistakenly installed the 1.43 ROM i thought it was just OK. So I let it go until it reach 100%, after that the phone just went completely off. It won't start, it won't charge and it won't turn on. I try to do a hard reset but same thing nothing works. So right now its completely no working. Do you its still fixable?
nope... you'll have to wait and see if one of the brilliant devs come up with a work around. till then you have a very nice paper weight. If you got it from t-mobile you might still be able to warranty it but you run the risk of them finding out that it has the HSPL on it.
Yes I got it from Tmobile. I just got it yesterday and I went back to the store and they're going to give me a direct replacement. I'm just trying if it might still be revive. I know it can be done but i think its difficult.
if it was just a bad/wrong rom you would be able to boot to bootloader and flash a different rom.
problem is that the official roms also include a radio, and it is the radio from the 1.43 that has bricked your phone, not the rom.
no one has yet managed to start their phone from this kind of brick.
I know..hopefully one of this days one of the developers will be able to crack it and find a cure for it.
There is no cure I can think over other then pulling the actual radio chip and putting in a new one. I would think it would be like killing a BIOS chip on your computers mother board.
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I know..hopefully one of this days one of the developers will be able to crack it and find a cure for it.
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no replacement? it's still under warranty....
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There is no cure I can think over other then pulling the actual radio chip and putting in a new one. I would think it would be like killing a BIOS chip on your computers mother board.
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I agree. I don't think that there will ever be a cure for this kind of flash.
Question, though... I know HTC has some ways they can directly patch into a phone's hardware. Would it be possible for them to see the data on the ROM section?
I ask, because this would probably be the only way they could detect a Hard SPL or cooked ROM, I think...
no replacement? it's still under warranty....
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They're going to replace it but the store that I bought was out of stock when I went there. They said in 5 days they receive their new HD2 and they will call me.
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no replacement? it's still under warranty....
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Yes I got it from Tmobile. I just got it yesterday and I went back to the store and they're going to give me a direct replacement. I'm just trying if it might still be revive. I know it can be done but i think its difficult.
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I think he is just talking in general.
sometimes a rookie mistake can ruin your life..or your phone just next time you flashed it read the whole post atleast 3 times and if you dont understand something read it again or google it so know what it means thats what I do all the time. flashing a rom takes time you cant really rush it and it happens to alot of us.
sometimes a rookie mistake can ruin your life..or your phone just next time you flashed it read the whole post atleast 3 times and if you dont understand something read it again or google it so know what it means thats what I do all the time. flashing a rom takes time you cant really rush it and it happens to alot of us.
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I really understand whats the do's and don'ts of flashing a ROM. I read it very carefully. It was just I'm so excited with it and didn't even read what I am clicking in my computer. I just hit NEXT..NEXT..NEXT. But what I am going to do the damage is done and there is no point of blaming my carelessness. As what most people say "learn from your mistake".
So, like it says, all i did was flash the new radio... now my hd2 wont power on. im using the core cell evo v3 rom. it was working perfectly, aside from the low reception... so i flashed the different radio. when the phone power cycled after the radio installed, it wouldnt power back on... please, please, PLEASE help!!!
Uhm, you didn't read ANYTHING before starting this whole process....did you? A Radio ROM with X.XX.51.X WILL ALWAYS BRICK A TMO-US HD2. Seriously, its at the top of like EVERY subforum...
as ashasaur said above... sorry my friend, but you have a nice paper weight on ur hands... any radio with a "51" in it is for european HD2's and will BRICK a USA HD2...
2.07.51.22 <--- evil
rlee008 said:
as ashasaur said above... sorry my friend, but you have a nice paper weight on ur hands... any radio with a "51" in it is for european HD2's and will BRICK a USA HD2...
2.07.51.22 <--- evil
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awe crap!! this isnt the first time i hacked this phone too... i read that warning so many damn times... i dont know why i overlooked that... by any chance, is there some hope of unbricking this thing... its not even my phone...
As much as I hate to say this because I was a complete noob once as well. But damn it dude did you not do any research what so ever before hand? I mean come on thats like the first thing you read is ONLY flash .50 radios to US TMOBILE hd2's . Read next time bro.
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As much as I hate to say this because I was a complete noob once as well. But damn it dude did you not do any research what so ever before hand? I mean come on thats like the first thing you read is ONLY flash .50 radios to US TMOBILE hd2's . Read next time bro.
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ummm... like i said... i read that warning a million times, and i dont know why i overlooked it this time. it was a stupid mistake on my part... but i DO read everything before getting started on stuff like this... my question still remains, can it be unbricked? i know its a slim to none chance, but im hoping it can be done...
Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668347
Hope it helps.
savd said:
Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668347
Hope it helps.
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I already read that one... unfortunately the phone needs to power on for that fix to work... thanks anyway...
gonna be a warranty issue I'm afraid. the phone is dead and gone.
Yup. I did this to my first HD2, the night I got it. I managed to take it down to T-Mobile the next day, and convince them it was a bad model, and they gave me a new one, but they only do that in the first 14 days after you purchase it.
There really is nothing to do but get a new one.
Personally, after I got my second one, I just stuck with the stock radio.
yup its a brick my friend... i did the same thing but with a .50 radio that wasnt good it was like the first edition... but yea my phone was brick insurance had to pickup the tab..
BrianYost24 said:
yup its a brick my friend... i did the same thing but with a .50 radio that wasnt good it was like the first edition... but yea my phone was brick insurance had to pickup the tab..
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JTAG maybe..?
I was in your shoes
samsamuel said:
WARNING- DO NOT USE 2.04.50.x OR 2.05.50.x - They WILL brick the tmous.
2.06.50.x
2.07.50.x
2.08.50.x
2.09.50.x
2.10.50.x
2.11.50.x
2.12.50.x
all work on tmous phones
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The second post on the radio thread was probably from my doing as I flashed a 2.05.50.xx on my T-Mo and bricked. I got mine off of cragislist and luckily it was under 30 days and the guy was cool enough to do (...for discounted Wii and 360 moding) a replacement for me.
But...It all goes back to what then seniors have always said when I started on the ROM dev forums. READ! I know you are getting that left and right and it doesn't change your situation, but YOU WON'T do that again.
Don't flash (or mod) anything late at night is a good rule of thumb...I HAVE learned my lesson when I disobey that rule...luckily Walmart/Target are unaware of gut swaps. But I bricked my HD 2 and did a semi-brick on my old Tilt before the semi-brick information was available at no fault of my own. I am sorry for your situation... I HAVE BEEN THERE. I keep a cheap flip phone (since I left the CDMA world) handy at all times since my first Brick way back when.
I don't even post that much anymore...I just read. But I am still a flashing junkie.
Hopefully, you will get a replacement and have attained some wisdom from the situation so it won't happen again or this thread you started will keep others from the bricking wayside.
It's most likely not a brick did u try to put your sim in an other phone? This happened to me and my sim was got fried and got a replacement from t-mo , this is one thing the other time I had to reflash an other rom with the radio recommanded for it worked try these first and then if all goes wrong it's just not ur lucky flash.
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It's most likely not a brick did u try to put your sim in an other phone? This happened to me and my sim was got fried and got a replacement from t-mo , this is one thing the other time I had to reflash an other rom with the radio recommanded for it worked try these first and then if all goes wrong it's just not ur lucky flash.
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no, you're wrong. Its been proven over and over again that radios with a 51 in the version kill tmous hd2s.
I didnt say i was sure i said likely, but trying more ways wont hurt, u can try to flash tmo stock rom to it's known to fix problems, i wish u luck
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I already read that one... unfortunately the phone needs to power on for that fix to work... thanks anyway...
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Whatever you do don't send it to HTC.. $600 fine..
PM me
Scabes24 said:
Whatever you do don't send it to HTC.. $600 fine..
PM me
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Fine? or Fee? Also, do you have an alternate method of repair?
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Fine? or Fee? Also, do you have an alternate method of repair?
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I think a fine.. :/
I recently bricked an HD2 (not radio related) and was told by a few people that if I send it to HTC and they figure out the device has any custom/cooked ROM or an SPL that is hacked, or from a test ROM (MFG spl) or basically anything that isn't an official/shipped release then they'll hit you w/ a $600 fine. And I'm assuming they don't send the device back to you..
Just what I've heard, and maybe it was just for my 'type' of brick - My thread
And no, i don't have another method, was just gonna inform him about JTAG if he wanted, I guess the ".51 Radio brick" isn't quite as hard to recover as it is others (correct me if I'm wrong).
thank to EVERYONE for all your input. i'm still on a quest to try and salvage this phone because like i said, it wasnt even mine. i already thought of exchanging it at tmo, but my friend got it off of craigslist, so thats out... and i am a former employee of tmous, and i know all the little sim card tricks and what not, and that wasnt successful either. im trying to find someone with jtag gear locally, but here in hawaii there arent a whole lot of options as far cellphone repairs and reprograming... ive bee scouring the net looking for other solutions, and if i do find something, i will be SURE to post it here so that others with the same problem can bring their phones back to life... thanks again everyone!!
Hi guys, I am attempted to unbrick my friend's HD2? The phone will not turn on. When I plug the phone into a wall charger, it will charges, but without anything on screen. I cant turn it on and it won't vibrate. Please help!
I believed that he was trying to flash it to Android?
Well the device boot to the bootloader?
T-Macgnolia said:
Well the device boot to the bootloader?
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Bootloader is the power and two volume buttons together right?
Volume down plus power, ,, both plus power is hard reset.
Which model HD2? Tmous or regular?
’trying to flash Android,, ’ did your friend byanychance follow a guide that said he must flash some rom to downgrade the spl? (All non Tmous stock roms will brick a Tmous)
samsamuel said:
Volume down plus power, ,, both plus power is hard reset.
Which model HD2? Tmous or regular?
’trying to flash Android,, ’ did your friend byanychance follow a guide that said he must flash some rom to downgrade the spl? (All non Tmous stock roms will brick a Tmous)
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Volume down plus power = no reaction
I have no idea. He had abandoned this phone for at least a year and I am sure he doesnt remember of what he did.
This is the T-Mobile version one
Thank for for your reply
as i understand, a bricked HD2 (cannot enter into bootloader) can no longer be revived..
is that still holds true or is there a new way to unbrick it aside from jtagging? any thoughts please...
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Volume down plus power = no reaction
I have no idea. He had abandoned this phone for at least a year and I am sure he doesnt remember of what he did.
This is the T-Mobile version one
Thank for for your reply
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Seeing that it is a TMOUS and it will not boot to bootloader it is probably radio bricked. The only fix for this is JTAG, contact MobileTechVideos.com they offer JTAG services and are the best I know
plus their price is very reasonable as well as they offer a money back guarantee if they can not revive the device.
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as i understand, a bricked HD2 (cannot enter into bootloader) can no longer be revived..
is that still holds true or is there a new way to unbrick it aside from jtagging? any thoughts please...
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Nope no new way that I know of besides JTAG to fix a bricked HD2.
Without checking post1 cos im mobile,, ,have you confirmed its not just simply a flat battery?
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Seeing that it is a TMOUS and it will not boot to bootloader it is probably radio bricked. The only fix for this is JTAG, contact MobileTechVideos.com they offer JTAG services and are the best I know
plus their price is very reasonable as well as they offer a money back guarantee if they can not revive the device.
Nope no new way that I know of besides JTAG to fix a bricked HD2.
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Without checking post1 cos im mobile,, ,have you confirmed its not just simply a flat battery?
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What do you mean by a flat battery? faulted battery?
sorry mate, me too once had in the same condition as urs i guess, no other way around than JTAG
^ at least, there's still hope..
riff box is there for a reason. its user friendly making jtag procedure as simple as ABC..
flat battery = no power (busted or no charge, as the case maybe)
There is another possibility that has happened that know one has brought up yet. Sometimes there can be a screen issue causing the phone not to show a display. This happened to me before and I just used my insurance I have through T-Mobile to get the device fixed. Even if you don't have a warranty through your carrier you could call up and talk to them about it. Just say something like you woke up in the morning and looked at your phone and it was blank. That there is no damage and your not sure why it just all of a sudden stopped working on you after a nights charge. Sometimes just knowing what to say works. Not always but you could luck out, worst thing is they say there is no warranty left.
^ a long shot IMO but its probable... my cent
I would agree it is a long shot. I've had great luck though by simply calling back. Like lets say I get an answer I want, I'll hang up and call back to talk to someone else. Normally that does the trick. For instance one time I had a problem with my credit card company after bring in the hospital for awhile I hadn't made a payment. One person said I would need to make a $400 payment and there was nothing they could do to help. I hung up and called back, talked to someone different and that person took off $400 from my bill so I didn't end up needing to make a payment. Just shows that you slipped be persistent.
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No problem.
Off subject but man this slideit keyboard really made a lot of mistakes. I didn't notice until I reread my comment. It looks like I'll need to go back to touchpal.
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Volume down plus power, ,, both plus power is hard reset.
Which model HD2? Tmous or regular?
’trying to flash Android,, ’ did your friend byanychance follow a guide that said he must flash some rom to downgrade the spl? (All non Tmous stock roms will brick a Tmous)
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i folishly flashed a tmous with wwe rom. any way to unbrick it?