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Hi,
I would like a more intuitive messaging application. Can the standard messaging application be replaced and/or disabled. Ideally I would like to direct text and mms messages from different people to be routed into different folders and to password protect some of these folders if possible.
I would also like to kill the messaging 'envelope' icon that is displayed when a new text is received. I never want to see this.
Any idead for any/all of these, the last one is the most important to me.
many thanks,
malty
I'd like that too...
Please help us... :wink:
Thanks
Re: text messaging... smart redirects, password protection
maltloaf said:
Hi,
I would like a more intuitive messaging application. Can the standard messaging application be replaced and/or disabled. Ideally I would like to direct text and mms messages from different people to be routed into different folders and to password protect some of these folders if possible.
I would also like to kill the messaging 'envelope' icon that is displayed when a new text is received. I never want to see this.
Any idead for any/all of these, the last one is the most important to me.
many thanks,
malty
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Ehehe! This looks like a one man - many women situation!!!
Anyway, to disable messages notification go to : Settings - Sounds and Notifications - Notification - New SMS and uncheck everything.
As for filters, folders and password i can't help, but if your friend owns a PPC too you could install Jgui ASMS (http://www.jgui.net/asms/) on both phones and use its encryption feature.
You can also try Smart Guard Pro: http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=smart guard&productId=185976&R=185976
bye
risidoro said:
You can also try Smart Guard Pro: http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=smart guard&productId=185976&R=185976
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That's kinda pricey...
I don't think it has the option of sorting incoming messages into different folders...
Did anyone try it? I don't want to spend $40 for something I won't use...
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risidoro said:
Ehehe! This looks like a one man - many women situation!!!
Anyway, to disable messages notification go to : Settings - Sounds and Notifications - Notification - New SMS and uncheck everything.
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I dont think this gets rid of the envelope icon in the top system tray. Thats what im after above and beyond everything else
Does anyone know if smart guard is wm5 compatible? I've emailed the programmers but havent had any replies
InfoSharp or create your own with SKschema
InfoSharp does all theses things http://www.mycnknow.com/.
SKschema has many nice scripting tools but would be more difficult since you have to create your own scrips. But it does work nicely.
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llestat said:
InfoSharp does all theses things http://www.mycnknow.com/.
SKschema has many nice scripting tools but would be more difficult since you have to create your own scrips. But it does work nicely.
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Question:
Does this program use default SMS location or does it use its own?
infosharp does this perfectly (after some poking of the settings). The manual isnt very well translated into english but you get the idea eventually will report back any problems as they occur
many thanks for the recommendation
Malty
Sounds interesting...
Is InfoSharpe a bolt-on for the existing SMS software in the phone, or does it replace it? If so, is there anything the standard software does that this doesn't?
How long is the trial period and can it be cleanly uninstalled if not happy?
Andre
it runs sort of parallel to the original messaging app so you dont lose any functionality. Im using infosharp for sms and messaging for mms/email etc. Infosharp obeys the rules you apply to each contact or group (or every contact) and one of those rules is to not display in inbox, which means it doesnt get passed to 'messaging' and the txt messaging icon does not get displayed, as i required.
If you dont have 'do not display in inbox' checked, you can carry on and use messaging as normal.
At the moment I have a few folders set up, girlfriend, mates etc and it routes them and notifies me exactly as i require. Some contacts have no notification at all and i only know theres a message if i actually check the folder theyre routed to. Some have modified notifications and some have the ordinary notification.
SMS can be routed to custom folders and be available in only infosharp or routed to the inbox where they are available to both messaging and infosharp.
as it runs in parallel i cant see theres a problem uninstalling. It doesnt seem to mess with any system files but as i havent tried this i cant say for sure.
Good stuff.
Malty
maltloaf said:
it runs sort of parallel to the original messaging app so you dont lose any functionality. Im using infosharp for sms and messaging for mms/email etc. Infosharp obeys the rules you apply to each contact or group (or every contact) and one of those rules is to not display in inbox, which means it doesnt get passed to 'messaging' and the txt messaging icon does not get displayed, as i required.
If you dont have 'do not display in inbox' checked, you can carry on and use messaging as normal.
At the moment I have a few folders set up, girlfriend, mates etc and it routes them and notifies me exactly as i require. Some contacts have no notification at all and i only know theres a message if i actually check the folder theyre routed to. Some have modified notifications and some have the ordinary notification.
SMS can be routed to custom folders and be available in only infosharp or routed to the inbox where they are available to both messaging and infosharp.
as it runs in parallel i cant see theres a problem uninstalling. It doesnt seem to mess with any system files but as i havent tried this i cant say for sure.
Good stuff.
Malty
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Are you able to create backups of all the folders? And does this program do it, or do you have to get something else?
Thanks
Luke
again its not something i've tried but there is an export / import function and also theres a file where i think everything is held anyway. (*.srm) They also do a program for the pc which can read the sms.
check the manual out here
http://www.mycnknow.com/infosharpmanul.htm
Ok I have a question. Since PocketCM has its own threaded sms and looks good with the bubbles etc, shouldnt it be possible for someone to make a threaded sms app with that same kinda look and interface? I mean, pocketCM is nice but it wont pop up automatically for me when I get a new text and u cant do it like the normal messaging app having an inbox whereas using pocketCM u have look up the contact, go to it then click on sms and history and that seems like a lil much just to get to messaging and its only for that person. I'd rather not have scroll thru all my contacts just to get to one. The guys at PocketCM should look into making their iown messaging app
if they could set it up like the shogun threaded messaging app w/ fixed input so you could see what your typing when using SIP keyboard it would be awesome, it doesnt seem like it would be too hard, but maybe it is
Shouldn't be too hard. PocketCM automatically shifts upward when typing a new message. I really like the interface of the sms part of PocketCM. Does anybody know a mortscript script to bring pocketCM up on the "Contacts with SMS" screen? Or maybe a .lnk shortcut for that??
Good question....I am waiting such application asa well, since Palm messaging didnt work well on my PPC.
my sentiments exactly... another one who's waiting for a good sms theader..
I'm waiting for this one.... hopefully it's going to be ok have waited a long time, though. Maybe it's difficult to make such an application.....
www.iwindowsmobile.com
what about just combine the in and sent box?
I was waiting for such an app too, palm app didn't just do it for me. My brother bought an iPhone, i played around with it and i really liked the SMS App, so i decided to develop my own Threaded SMS. Currently i am working on it, but it's going a bit slow cause i dont have enough time to work on. I'll post it here asa i get an alpha ready.
Meanwhile if you have any suggestions or features that this app can have, plz dont hesitate to drop me a PM
cheers
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I was waiting for such an app too, palm app didn't just do it for me. My brother bought an iPhone, i played around with it and i really liked the SMS App, so i decided to develop my own Threaded SMS. Currently i am working on it, but it's going a bit slow cause i dont have enough time to work on. I'll post it here asa i get an alpha ready.
Meanwhile if you have any suggestions or features that this app can have, plz dont hesitate to drop me a PM
cheers
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i would love to see the inbox and sent box threaded on one screen, so there is no need to go seperate contacts in order to see who i've texted....
ajones7279 said:
Ok I have a question. Since PocketCM has its own threaded sms and looks good with the bubbles etc, shouldnt it be possible for someone to make a threaded sms app with that same kinda look and interface? I mean, pocketCM is nice but it wont pop up automatically for me when I get a new text and u cant do it like the normal messaging app having an inbox whereas using pocketCM u have look up the contact, go to it then click on sms and history and that seems like a lil much just to get to messaging and its only for that person. I'd rather not have scroll thru all my contacts just to get to one. The guys at PocketCM should look into making their iown messaging app
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Uhm, that's not how PCM works. If it doesn't pop up automatically and you have it set to in the options menu, you should check with tene over at pocketcm.com. As for scrolling down to find who sent you an sms, if you just go to the sms screen, it will be the first contact at the top of the list. They're sorted chronologically. That's how most other threader programs do it too. If you've been scrolling down through all of your contacts on the main screen, you've been wasting your time.
just wait for wm6.1, its got a great threaded sms
the Cody threaded sms is pretty good, but kinda slow and laggy and the most annoying thing is that sometimes it just opens up by it self. Is there anyway to fix that?
does anyone know of any other good threaded sms programs? I tried cody's threaded sms, it opened on its own, sent multiple copies of messages, and sometimes didnt even send messages. I installed textr but it just froze my mogul. I dont like pocketcm or the sms app from pocket-sms.com because they arent fully integrated. does anyone know of any other sms programs that work correctly and fully replace the default sms app (like cody's threaded sms does)?
yea i have the same problem as you Sturatt. I have been searching for a good SMS app. cannot find anything. I really like the Cody's Threaded sms features and layout but it has too many problems and does not work well on my Mogul. I want a good SMS app that is similar to cody's threaded sms. Also I don't want to wait for WinMo 6.1 if it is ever released.
Please see itje's thread about the WM6.1 ROM he's scheduled to release this weekend. I think that's what he meant when he said just wait for WM6.1...
Windows Mobile v6.1 ROM due to be released by itje - Touch IT
oh thats good news. Thanks for letting me know, I cant wait now.
Extreme Text by Birdsoft
Has anyone tried Extreme Text by Birdsoft. Its not freeware, $14.95. But it looks simple and stable and you can use poutlook and it reads the same database.
Any thoughts?
http://www.birdsoft.biz/extremetext.htm
problem is it doesnt auto run u have to open the program and txts go to windows default sms b4 this program so its pretty worthless imo
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problem is it doesnt auto run u have to open the program and txts go to windows default sms b4 this program so its pretty worthless imo
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exactly. More than anything, i want it to completely take the place of the default sms app (like palm's app). Threaded would be nice, but even if its not, ill settle for a program that just replaces the default app.
Sturatt said:
exactly. More than anything, i want it to completely take the place of the default sms app (like palm's app). Threaded would be nice, but even if its not, ill settle for a program that just replaces the default app.
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So then what's your problem with PCM again?
Is there anyway to theme the default sms program in winmo 6.1? I would like to get it so I can have bubbles like the iphone (different images though)
Also, is there a way to get all your messages displayed on the same long page, instead of constantly paging back every 5 messages?
Note: I don't want any recommendations for alternate sms apps, I have seen most of them and don't care for them
The answer to both your questions is a flat no unfortunately.
I wish it was otherwise. But afraid not.
Answer to first question is no until somebody proves me wrong.
Answer on 2nd question however is yes. You can change the registry and make all your messages appear on 1 page again like before.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...ng-or-conversation-mode-in-windows-mobile-61/
this page offers even a cab file to do the job
What Fruzion means is that he wants the threaded sms displaying more then the last five messages.
Now it's:
Date/Time
Message 1
_________
Date/Time
Message 2
_________
Date/Time
Message 3
_________
Date/Time
Message 4
_________
Date/Time
Message 5
_________
Older messages.
And he wants it to continue with Message 6+
However this is not possible I think and the way WM handles the opening of threaded smses is also bad. I load a list every time you open the massages wich takes a long time to load. So if a conversation contains over 50 messages the loading would be unacceptable. Maybe WM6.5 or 7 will update the sms threading.
Fruzion said:
Is there anyway to theme the default sms program in winmo 6.1? I would like to get it so I can have bubbles like the iphone (different images though)
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You can change a couple of things in the SMS layout by editing the file read_style.css
I enlarged my texts a tad bit i never thought of changing a background, but it could be possible i thinkk!! i'm not sure...
pauldgroot said:
What Fruzion means is that he wants the threaded sms displaying more then the last five messages.
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well since he said
Fruzion said:
is there a way to get all your messages displayed on the same long page, instead of constantly paging back every 5 messages?"
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I figured all messages
anyway, verkeerd verstaan blijkbaar
anyway, my mistake.
Fruzion said:
Is there anyway to theme the default sms program in winmo 6.1? I would like to get it so I can have bubbles like the iphone (different images though)
Also, is there a way to get all your messages displayed on the same long page, instead of constantly paging back every 5 messages?
Note: I don't want any recommendations for alternate sms apps, I have seen most of them and don't care for them
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I while ago I found a app that would just do that. However, I had to do a hard reset and lost it. I later could not find it again. I know that it's possible and I do believe I found it at www.pocketpcfreeware.com.
whats so bad about smiley sms? I use it to gain the effect you are wanting. Why are you against using it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328363
Smiley needs updated... it's outdated..
It is annoying when you have little or no signal and you send an SMS only to get an unable to send SMS notification. It would be great if it could auto retry (AND get rid of the draft when the SMS is successfully sent).
Is there such a program? Couldn't find one on google or here.
Could someone make one?
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It is annoying when you have little or no signal and you send an SMS only to get an unable to send SMS notification. It would be great if it could auto retry (AND get rid of the draft when the SMS is successfully sent).
Is there such a program? Couldn't find one on google or here.
Could someone make one?
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Not sure with the standard messaging features but add ons like Vito SMS chat have this feature (resend) rather than searching through draft folders like you said.
I would like to bump this thread again. This can be a real annoyance and I can't imagine a skilled developer would take long to write an app to do this.
Deosneos said:
I would like to bump this thread again. This can be a real annoyance and I can't imagine a skilled developer would take long to write an app to do this.
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I completely support the statement that this is super annoying. Can't imagine why noone has tackled the issue so far.
I think many would appreciate this to be done..
so the app should always be running in the background?
oldsap said:
so the app should always be running in the background?
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Maybe integrated to the WIndows default SMS application?
i think the app should monitor if a new sms is moved to the drafts folder
oldsap said:
i think the app should monitor if a new sms is moved to the drafts folder
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But this would send even the messages you intended to move to drafts folder. like messages you intended to send later. but if it is not possible for now to integrate to the existing default sms app, i think this is an option. BTW i know you can do this oldsap, ive been using some of your apps since way back to the SAP era. thanks for that.
I didn't find the option to view contacts list from Messaging, Email, or Gmail apps that came with X10. So, it is getting frustrating to send message to multiple users as I now need to type few characters from each person's name to bring their contact information. The problem is when I have several people to send the message I tend to forgot who I already selected.
My question is, is this an Android 1.6 lack of feature or X10? For messaging I downloaded Handcent SMS which has the feature to select contacts from list like any dumb phone has. I am surprised several little and basic features like these are missing in X10.
I hate using apps that don't blend well with the nice Bluish interface of X10. So, apps like Handcent SMS spoil the rich experience of X10 but I have no choice but to use as selecting multiple users is very important.
yeah a little annoying I agree, but you can totally customize the look of Handcent you know right?? Just use backgrounds, colours, and fonts that match the blue SE Timescape theme.
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yeah a little annoying I agree, but you can totally customize the look of Handcent you know right?? Just use backgrounds, colours, and fonts that match the blue SE Timescape theme.
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I only see Sense or iPhone theme on Handcent SMS. Font's I can select System Fonts. I am trying to get the same dark blue background like in the default SE Messaging app.
kitsVA said:
I only see Sense or iPhone theme on Handcent SMS. Font's I can select System Fonts. I am trying to get the same dark blue background like in the default SE Messaging app.
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I'd say try to set the backgrounds in Handcent to the blue SE ones included on the phone, like either of the two in "Wallpaper Gallery" you can choose when you want to set your Wallpaper. I'm not sure where exactly they're located on the file system, I just briefly looked and couldn't find them, but maybe someone else knows or maybe it's possible to download them online somewhere??
Furthermore, there's 4 different font packages available for Handcent on the marketplace, I'm sure you could find a font similar enough to the default one of the SE messaging app, then set all font colours to white and you're golden. Please post your results and if you happen to find where those SE Wallpapers are located, thanks
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I'd say try to set the backgrounds in Handcent to the blue SE ones included on the phone, like either of the two in "Wallpaper Gallery" you can choose when you want to set your Wallpaper. I'm not sure where exactly they're located on the file system, I just briefly looked and couldn't find them, but maybe someone else knows or maybe it's possible to download them online somewhere??
Furthermore, there's 4 different font packages available for Handcent on the marketplace, I'm sure you could find a font similar enough to the default one of the SE messaging app, then set all font colours to white and you're golden. Please post your results and if you happen to find where those SE Wallpapers are located, thanks
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Thanks. Got it all setup to close very close in theme to SE's blue. I had to download the wallpaper from online as I couldn't locate the one sitting somewhere in the system folders.
kitsVA said:
I didn't find the option to view contacts list from Messaging, Email, or Gmail apps that came with X10. So, it is getting frustrating to send message to multiple users as I now need to type few characters from each person's name to bring their contact information. The problem is when I have several people to send the message I tend to forgot who I already selected.
My question is, is this an Android 1.6 lack of feature or X10? For messaging I downloaded Handcent SMS which has the feature to select contacts from list like any dumb phone has. I am surprised several little and basic features like these are missing in X10.
I hate using apps that don't blend well with the nice Bluish interface of X10. So, apps like Handcent SMS spoil the rich experience of X10 but I have no choice but to use as selecting multiple users is very important.
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Is there a problem with selecting more than one contact? I mean, I can send one text to different people using the default messaging app. Just compose a new text and write a couple of letters that the contact starts with then select it and write a couple of letters for your next contact. Works perfectly for me!
Flamso said:
Is there a problem with selecting more than one contact? I mean, I can send one text to different people using the default messaging app. Just compose a new text and write a couple of letters that the contact starts with then select it and write a couple of letters for your next contact. Works perfectly for me!
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I have contacts with multiple numbers (home, work...etc). It seems there is no way to select the alternative numbers using the default messaging app.
Flamso said:
Is there a problem with selecting more than one contact? I mean, I can send one text to different people using the default messaging app. Just compose a new text and write a couple of letters that the contact starts with then select it and write a couple of letters for your next contact. Works perfectly for me!
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That's the only way possible. But it would have been better if showed the contact list with a "check box". That is how it is on most phones and messaging apps. Having to type the first two characters is not going to be easy when trying to send message to several contacts as you need to remember who you already entered plus the worst part is if one of your contact has two mobile phones and the second is listed as "Other" number, it will never show up by entering couple of characters. You have to open that contact from Address Book and choose that number to send message.
kiwi45 said:
I have contacts with multiple numbers (home, work...etc). It seems there is no way to select the alternative numbers using the default messaging app.
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Yes. This is a pain as one of my friend carried two cellphones. One work cell and one personal which he carries mostly on weekends. I can't chose his personal number from Messaging app. I have to open the contact and choose the number to send message.
I hope SE engineers are reading this forum. They really need to implement lot of these simple easy changes in their next update.
kiwi45 said:
I have contacts with multiple numbers (home, work...etc). It seems there is no way to select the alternative numbers using the default messaging app.
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Oh, I see. Well then, I've only got one number for each contact. Can't help you then.