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Why is A2DP so f'ed up?

Dont get me wrong, I'm loving the fact that we have A2DP when we shouldn't (thanks Microsoft :twisted: ) but I've read and reread every single thread about A2DP on the Prophet and I still can't get it to work the way it should.
Here's what i have: a Qtek S200 updated to the latest WWE Dopod ROM, with A2DP patch installed, and paired to a Bluetake I-Phono Mini (BT450Rx). I get both handsfree and stereo profiles as an option, and both work to a certain degree.
But here's the catch: I tried all the music players out there, and none even approaches a decent level of use:
- Media Player 10: best so far, but the Play/Pause button isnt working (only FF/REW), and when a call comes through, it answers on the headset, but when I hang up, the music resumes from the speaker of the Prophet and not the headset.
- Pocket Music: very buggy, skips a lot, and the AVRCP controls dont work.
- TCPMP: sound is fine, porbably the best, but once again, the controls for playback dont work.
Am I doing everything wrong, or is there really no way to get at least one of these to work?
Any thoughts/remarks/info etc would be appreciated.
thnaks, TDX

yeah, A2DP is a deal breaker for me, so I'm waiting waiting at this stage...(have yet to buy prophet)

So, no one has found a software combination that actually works?

tdx said:
- Media Player 10: best so far, but the Play/Pause button isnt working (only FF/REW), and when a call comes through, it answers on the headset, but when I hang up, the music resumes from the speaker of the Prophet and not the headset.
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After the call, the music will only resume at the begining of a track.
Therefore, hit your rewind or forward button to resume music.
Even with this, it's still not seamless.

Well, I have an S200 with the A2DP patch working in conjunction with my Plantronics Pulsar 590 Stereo headset and I'm really impressed with its performance. Hi-fi sound under WMP10 and PocketMusic. No skips even without overclocking. Flawless Calls in the middle of my music. Resumes perfectly.
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
Never been so happy with my PDA/Phone.
Best regards...

Rayan said:
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
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I don't think so.
I have the same problems with a Motorola Ht820.
If only some of us have this problem, we probably didn't install the fix properly.

What would be really cool, would be if someone could detail the exact steps needed to install A2Dp on the Prophet, enable AVRCP and get everything to work nicely. I know there have been other threads regarding this, but it's been a while since the patch came out, various people have posted different versions of it, new ROMs came out, so it all gets a little confusing.

It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan

Rayan said:
It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan
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Ah. That's the registry edit method.
I installed mine the simpler way. Maybe the simpler way is not complete.

Thanks for the responses everyone. I actually spent some time and did some extra research/testing. Here's what I've narrowed it down to:
What works:
1. The A2DP works, as far as pairing, handsfree and wireless stereo go.
2. The AVCRP sort of works (only in WMP, othesr software apparently don't support it yet).
What doesn't work:
1. Play/Pause button in WMP. For some reason, FF/REW work, but not Play/Pause.
2. When I answer a phonecall with the BT450 while listening to music, it pauses the music, but when i hang up, the music reverts to the speakerphone (it loses the wireless audio status and i have to pair it again manually).
3. Finally, and I dont know if this is a bug or not, when I turn on the headset, it automatically establishes a wireless handsfree pairing, but not a wireless stereo (music) pairing. I have to go into settings and pair it manually EVERYTIME I want to listen to music. This sucks.
So, anyone else having the same three problems as me? Anyone has solutions to these.
I would be most eternally grateful.

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Rayan said:
It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan
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Ah. That's the registry edit method.
I installed mine the simpler way. Maybe the simpler way is not complete.
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Nope... It's not a manual regedit per se, it's all included on a .cab for easy application and a few other files to put in the Windows directory.
At least for me, it worked flawlessly while paired to my Plantronics gear.

Rayan said:
Well, I have an S200 with the A2DP patch working in conjunction with my Plantronics Pulsar 590 Stereo headset and I'm really impressed with its performance. Hi-fi sound under WMP10 and PocketMusic. No skips even without overclocking. Flawless Calls in the middle of my music. Resumes perfectly.
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
Never been so happy with my PDA/Phone.
Best regards...
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You gotta be joking about HI-FI performance. I have the same headset and when it sounds really good with my ASUS W5A laptop with Toshiba BT stack it doesn't work all that well with Jamin. It sounds like it set to low quality mode. A2DP on Prophet that is.

Nope ID64, no jokes... It really is working for me perfectly even without overclocking.
Have you tried PocketMusic, because Media Player 10 sucks big time in all respects on the Prophet...
Are you sure you are pairing as Wireless Stereo profile? The first time I tried it, I mistakenly selected Hands-free profile and sounded just as you described.
ROM Version: 2.9.7.24 WWE
ROM Date: 2/9/06
Radio: 413.1.03
ExtROM: 2.9.7.106
A2DP Applied

Does PocketMusic have AVRCP controls though?

tdx said:
Does PocketMusic have AVRCP controls though?
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Not sure if it's implemented inside PocketMusic or in the A2DP profile itself but AVRCP do work in PocketMusic without a hitch. The Plantronics Stereo Headset controls work prerfectly, and the PocketMusic fade-out-fade-in feature sounds simply impresive!
Best regards,
Rayan

Stereo Headsets with full AVRCP Support on Prophet

Having spend several hours searching for information on the extent to which various stereo headsets are fully supporting A2DP and AVRCP on the Prophet with the A2DP hack, and not really getting a clear overview, I thought it might be useful if a thread was started to list the headsets in common use with an indication of their capabiliteis. Hope people will contribute in providing a useful resource:
So here goes: I have a Globalsat BTH-820:
What's Working:
Note: Only tested with Media Player 10 (results may it seem differ with for example Pocket Music/Pocket Player)
-Once paired, connects with a 4 second press of the On-Off button.
-Next and Previous track buttons work.
-Volume Up and Down work (amplification is by the unit, not the PPC)
-With the Voice Command hack via BT, MS voice Command can be heard through the headset and replied to via the built-in mic
What's Not Working:
-Play/Pause. Audio can be paused and stopped remotely (the latter with the on-off/call answer button) but cannot be resumed without using the PPC.
-Voice Command initiation: Has to be initiated via a button on the pocket pc
Other Observations:
-Sound quality is pretty good so long as the pocket pc's volume is set at max and the BTH-820 volume control is used with restraint. Background noise becomes apparent when the BTH-820's volume is cranked up too far.
-No pauses, skips or breakup of signal if within range of the PPC. Signal strength is pretty good too (though I think primarily because the Prophet's bluetooth signal is particularly strong)
-Bass is good but treble is a little thin and metallic (I think in common with all MS BT Stack A2DP implementations and down to the poor SBC compression algorithm).
Note that the BTH-820 works perfectly on devices with the Widcomm BT stack. On the iPaq hx4700, for example, the sound is very good indeed.
Even the h6340 (running a slower OMAP processor than the Prophet) acquits itself very well
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Steve

Try use Pocket Music Player 4.2.6. All AVRCP function is worked. :lol:

Good to have a Thread like this by now. I want to buy the Motorola HT820 and i like to have good Bass - I friend of mine has got the Sony Walkman Mobile Phone with these awesome in-ear Headphones.
Does a BT Headset have the same/better Sound than a wired one ?
What about the Motorola ?

Battery drain?
How much more battery is drained when you listen to music with bluetooth compared to thru a normal "wire" from the phone to earplugs?
Thanks

Hi: I've not really attempted to keep track of battery drain. There's obviously the overhead of having Bluetooth on and the processing required to compress the audio for transmission. Nothing like as much as with WiFi on, though.
Regards,
Steve

I have:
Sony Ericsson HBH-610
Doesn´t seem to work at all :=(
Can´t get it to make me an offer to check the box for "use as wireless headset", got the option when I rightclick the icon, although it´s greyed out.
My guess is that this headset can´t be used for this, anyone who have it working?

I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
The track fades makes the whole experience a lot better....
Best regards,
Rayan

I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis

Moto HT 820
AVRCP works with WMP, Pocket Player 2.72 and up with gen_wmhost.dll plug-in, PocketMusic 2.6.XXX. SOmetimes with WMP u do have to tap play|pause on the screen once to make it work from headphones.
Auto reconnects, however play|pause button also initialises connection.
Uptime: around 12.5 hrs of continious playback, whereas JAMin/display off, Bt on, GSM on, Non overclocked CPU, music from SD card/ stays for something around 7 hrs (6.5 when overclocked to 240).

Bluetake i-phono mini?
Hi,
I am looking to buy the Bluetake i-phono mini (a pain to get hold of in Australia :shock: ). Has anyone tried to pair with this set of headphones (and what was the quality like?)
Cheers,
Winkie

pocket music player
stevep,
I have the same bluetooth bth-820 and have the exact same issues with windows mobile media player.
But goddamn, sas90850 is completely right. Pocket music player solved all the issues. Play/pause now works, plus it has an equalizers and aac support.
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Update 7/26/2006:
PocketMusic was just too resource heavy for my HTC Wizard. Even though my Wizard is overclocked at 264mhz, I still would get skipping, white screens and having to constantly reboot because of application freezes. PocketMusic doesn't work reliably with the Wizard.
I did however find another, lighter and arguably better player. PocketPlayer by Conduits.
First install version Pocket Player 2.8. AVRCP will not work until you install WMP plugin adapter 1.1. Everything works and it is awesome. The program has everything you need.
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Pocket Player version 2.8
WMP plugin adapter 1.1
HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125)
Qtek OS 2.17.7.2
Globstat BTH-820 Stereo headset

I do own a Anycom BSH-100. Always skip every 20 sec. Never got it work with nothing.
Looking to change it.
Option.
Bluetake mini with they audio gateway
BlueAnt X5 (are they the same as the sonorix???)
Globalsat BTH-820 with BTA-830
if i could find an audio gateway
Jabra 620s
Motorola HT820
Any other suggestion would be welcome.

fahlis said:
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis
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I really really want these for my new m600.. anyone got any update on their compatability?
cheers

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Nemolacuna said:
stevep,
I have the same bluetooth bth-820 and have the exact same issues with windows mobile media player.
But goddamn, sas90850 is completely right. Pocket music player solved all the issues. Play/pause now works, plus it has an equalizers and aac support.
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Update 7/26/2006:
PocketMusic was just too resource heavy for my HTC Wizard. Even though my Wizard is overclocked at 264mhz, I still would get skipping, white screens and having to constantly reboot because of application freezes. PocketMusic doesn't work reliably with the Wizard.
I did however find another, lighter and arguably better player. PocketPlayer by Conduits.
First install version Pocket Player 2.8. AVRCP will not work until you install WMP plugin adapter 1.1. Everything works and it is awesome. The program has everything you need.
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Pocket Player version 2.8
WMP plugin adapter 1.1
HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125)
Qtek OS 2.17.7.2
Globstat BTH-820 Stereo headset
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Hi: Downloaded Pocket Player 2.8 and can confirm that it works well with the BTH-820. I can recommend this combination: no pauses or dropouts on my JAMin.
I believe that Conduits are using sbc.dll for audio compression, so some sound quality issues do still exist, These can be compensated for to some extent by using the equalizer built in to Pocket Player. In the longer term I hope MS will re-visit this code: Broadcomm's (Widcomm) A2DP implementation produces much higher quality sound...
Cheers,
Steve

chonkey said:
fahlis said:
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis
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I really really want these for my new m600.. anyone got any update on their compatability?
cheers
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BengalBoy has a review of them and based on it, I ordered one from ebay. It's bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP and AVRCP, so it should work with any device that supports it. It should be a week or so before I get it, but it looks like it will work fine if you have a device that supports it.
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=527&forum=20
(WARNING: sometimes the reviews are NSFW.)

fahlis said:
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis
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I just received mine from Expansys. I have an i-mate JAMin with i-mate's latest WWE ROM and smartmobile.se's version of the A2DP patch and I have used Windows Media Player and PocketMind's Pocket Music:
+ Sound quality is excellent!
+ Play/pause works.
+ Previous/next works as well.
- The display does not show song details.
Using the headset for phone calls works well and the display shows the caller ID. But the phone seems to be unable to use the headset for handsfree and wireless stereo at the same time as the phone doesn't want to switch back to wireless stereo once a phone call has ended. I have to go in to Bluetooth settings and mark the headset for wireless stereo again to switch back to music. I suspect this could be a problem with the "unofficial" support for A2DP on the Prophet and not the DS970.

I've succumbed and ordered a pair today.. looking forward to getting them working tomorrow/friday depending on the delivery time..
Need to get my head around the fixes for my m600 now...

fahlis said:
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis
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I don't get it, if you want wireless headphones why buy these? You might as well just plug them in to your device.

Matterhorn said:
fahlis said:
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590 and they work flawlessly with PocketMusic.
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Ok, but I don´t wan´t those with the wrap around the head.
How about Sony Ericsson DS970, anyone tried those?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394
/fahlis
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I don't get it, if you want wireless headphones why buy these? You might as well just plug them in to your device.
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Wireless refers to lack of wires between phone and headphones. The wires you have on the DS970 are just long enough to allow you to keep the receiver/remote in your shirt pocket, while you can keep the phone stuffed somewhere else . . . (no more embarassing questions about why those headset wires going down the front of my pants!)

Wireless refers to lack of wires between phone and headphones. The wires you have on the DS970 are just long enough to allow you to keep the receiver/remote in your shirt pocket, while you can keep the phone stuffed somewhere else . . . (no more embarassing questions about why those headset wires going down the front of my pants!)
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One thing that kept me from buyin the headphones is exactly this: when you're wearing a shirt or coat, you can keep the DS970 in your pocket. but when you wear a t-shirt or sweater, you have nowhere to tuck them away, and they'll just be hanging on your chest, causing all sorts of complications when you bend over and all sorts of weird looks from passerbys...

Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 and Wizard friends or foes?

Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d

dodgy said:
Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d
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I've got one, using it with my Qtek 9100 with the "Mr Clean" ROM and it works great. Sound quality is excellent, the ear buds appear to be the same as Sony's high end ones (which I'm using with my iPod) and the head set build quality is high.
I can definitely recommend it for the 9100.
/politby

politby said:
dodgy said:
Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d
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I've got one, using it with my Qtek 9100 with the "Mr Clean" ROM and it works great. Sound quality is excellent, the ear buds appear to be the same as Sony's high end ones (which I'm using with my iPod) and the head set build quality is high.
I can definitely recommend it for the 9100.
/politby
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Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID. The remote control function works with WMP but not with TCPMP. Those are the only media players I've tested.
/politby

Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID
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Is that so? I just checked at a reseller and saw this (translated from swedish)
Bluetooth Stereo Headset with display that has support for Caller ID and also see what song is played.
Bluetooth version 2.O with A2DP protokoll (Stream sound in Stereo) and Digital Signal Protokoll) which means improved sound quality.
So I´m pussled..true or false?
Also, looking at pictures of this one, from what I can see it has many wires, only difference to the one that comes in the package with the Qtek9100 is the wire to the phone of corse, don´t you find this a bit annoying?
Thinking of buying one myself and I have today a HBH-610 that can´t do A2DP sadly BUT it´s just one thingy on the ear and that´s it...oh well guess I have to scarifice that if I wan´t A2DP which I do...
/fahlis

fahlis said:
Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID
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Is that so? I just checked at a reseller and saw this (translated from swedish)
Bluetooth Stereo Headset with display that has support for Caller ID and also see what song is played.
Bluetooth version 2.O with A2DP protokoll (Stream sound in Stereo) and Digital Signal Protokoll) which means improved sound quality.
So I´m pussled..true or false?
Also, looking at pictures of this one, from what I can see it has many wires, only difference to the one that comes in the package with the Qtek9100 is the wire to the phone of corse, don´t you find this a bit annoying?
Thinking of buying one myself and I have today a HBH-610 that can´t do A2DP sadly BUT it´s just one thingy on the ear and that´s it...oh well guess I have to scarifice that if I wan´t A2DP which I do...
/fahlis
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Argh. It DOES do Caller ID. The display is so tiny that I guess I assumed it would not display the caller ID.
Makes this headset even better!
/politby

Thanks for the replys guys, I think now I will go ahead and buy one when I get enough cash.
One additional question: Does it have a ring speaker och vibrate function?
I'm thinking of a scenario when you have the phone in a pocket or bag and have the clip on your shirt but the earbuds not in your ears and the phone rings, is it possible to hear it or do you have to have the buds pluged in?
Here's a link to the headset and the lowest prices (for Sweden)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=87795#rparams=ss=HBH-DS970
/d

dodgy said:
Thanks for the replys guys, I think now I will go ahead and buy one when I get enough cash.
One additional question: Does it have a ring speaker och vibrate function?
I'm thinking of a scenario when you have the phone in a pocket or bag and have the clip on your shirt but the earbuds not in your ears and the phone rings, is it possible to hear it or do you have to have the buds pluged in?
Here's a link to the headset and the lowest prices (for Sweden)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=87795#rparams=ss=HBH-DS970
/d
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It does not vibrate but it plays the ring tone - and it's audible when just hanging around the neck unless the environment is really noisy.
The phone rings too, of course.

I´ll buy this one also soon, thx for the recommendations/explanations.
/fahlis

I bought one of these last week and agree that the sound quality is excellent. I expected some background Bluetooth-style hiss but I can't hear any.
£70 may be a bit steep, but I think they are worth it.
For me, I always dock my Wizard in a cradle at work, which blocks the phono jack. So these fix that problem. Now I can also carry my Wizard wherever on my person I choose and not have to worry about wires.
And the real benefit is, when docked, I use Raspberry Software's True Connect, so I can control my Wizard with my mouse (excellent software), so even without A2DRP (something like that) I can still change my music at my desk.
The actual bluetooth part is really light and you don't knotice it round your next, most people probably think it's just an MP3 player, albeit a small one.
Highly recommended by me.

Hi Guys,
got this tiny little toy too, sound is good, but some questions are still unanswered:
Songs aren´t display in the sceen of the Sony remote control, any chance to get this thing to work?
I would love it to use an other Player than this f*cking MediaPlayer, but with other Player the Buttons won´t work.....
Any idea?

What about the range?
Hi all,
What are your experiences with respect to the range of this headset, when used in combination with the Wizard? I'm fairly disappointed in that area: As soon as I move the wizard from the 'line of sight' of the headset, the audio feed breaks up. This means that I won't be able to stash my phone in my backpack for example.
regards,
dafit

@Dafit:
I only keep it in my jeans front pocket, or my Suit Jacket inner pocket, so no problems there. However I have noticed it doesn't seem to cope well if it's not in line of sight. I held my Qizard behind my back and it cut out.
So that's one downside. Quite big if you want to keep it in your bag...
@Whumpscut:
Agreed with the songs suggestion, would be nice. As for other Media Players. Have heard mention that TCPMP might allow control via the Bluetooth, but I've tried it and it wouldn't work.
There's also an update coming out sometime soon from Conduit the makers of Pocket Player that will do this. See their forum for details.

Hi Nooner,
I just got my headset this morning and been testing it for a while. I notice that music playback after a call doesn't work even though the music is still playing but just no sound is coming from the headset. Just wonder whether have you experience this problem b4. I am having a O2 wizard with the lastest rom. Thanks

cbchong said:
Hi Nooner,
I just got my headset this morning and been testing it for a while. I notice that music playback after a call doesn't work even though the music is still playing but just no sound is coming from the headset. Just wonder whether have you experience this problem b4. I am having a O2 wizard with the lastest rom. Thanks
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I don't have that problem, as nobody ever rings me :lol:
I have heard this as a problem. But joking aside, I've only had my headphones for about 5 days and usually only listen at work or to and from work (via the tube/underground), which is when I don't really receive calls.
But I've heard this reported. Don't know if it's the headphones or a problem with A2DP.

Thanks for the reply. I will try and search the forum and see. Will report back if I found anything.

In this user review he mentions the same problem http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=7463154#post7463154 Maybe its because of the A2DP patch but I dont have the problem with a Nokia HS-12W or Itech Clip S.

Yes is exactly the same problem. But seems like no one has a solution for it so far.

Hi efjay,
Just wonder what do you think about the nokia hs12w. Do you have any problem with it at all or it just works fine with the phone. Cause I am thinking of returning the sony n get something else.

I just ordered mine. Will be here on Monday :lol:
Can't wait.
[edit]
Damn it. They just called and said it's on "national backorder"
Must find one....

cbchong said:
Hi efjay,
Just wonder what do you think about the nokia hs12w. Do you have any problem with it at all or it just works fine with the phone. Cause I am thinking of returning the sony n get something else.
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Have a look in this thread for opinions on the Nokia http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48290
I myself think its good, solid build, large display, clear sound and the radio is an added bonus.

Trinity A2DP problems - Temporary solution

Well, I was unsure if I should post this under one of the old posts, but I decided to start it as a new clean post...
Many are having problem with "hissing" noise, joint-stereo and low bitrate(or bitpool). For my sake, I've tried "fit4cat - Hermes Tweaker", "Sleuth255 A2DP fix" and several other methods, but without beeing able to get the soundquality I want from my headset.
Now, this is what worked for me after tweaking around with the registry a while, and endless pairing sessions
Download a registry editor(I use PHM, http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ <- Download the PocketPC 2002/2003 ARM/PXA)
1: Turn off bluethooth on the Trinity
2: Unpair the Trinity with the headset(Delete the headset from the list!)
3: Change the following registry settings:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings
MaxSupportedBitPool=80
MinSupportedBitPool=40 (or more if you want)
(if these arn't there, add them!)
And DELETE:
UseJointStereo = 0/1 (depending on whatever you have put there before)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]
Priority256=149
(let the rest be as it is)
4: Reboot
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
So the solution to this, is to go to the device list on the trinity after you have lost connection with the headset(this is if you have turned of the trinity or the headset), and hold the stylus on it and choose "Use as wirelss stereo" and "use as handsfree"...
Thanks to all of you guys here who have posted solutions to the A2DP problems And if anyone have suggestions to other values that are better fit then the onces I've supplied, share them with us
And if all of this have been posted in another thread that I've missed out, the moderators are free to delete this one

Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.

Tiemen said:
Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.
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Hehe! The thing that made me going was that I was able to get perfect sound once or twice, and since I made it work those few times I just had to find out what I actually did that made this work (And paying 175$ for the headset also keept me fueled for a while ) hehe!
I think I've used about 5-6 hours total these two days sitting pairing, adjusting settings, rebooting(ARGH!), untill I found out that the problem actually occurs when you use the headset to pair instead of the trinity

I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?
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1: Well, I'm not sure on the bluetooth 2.0 specs, so If there is a spec limit on 64kbps, then this is new to me.
2: And the skippingproblem is not just connected to the CPU-usage.. But if you have some info on this issue, then please; do share it with us.
3: A2DP headset with minijack is available many places, even HTC has one. And if you take a look at DS970, you will see that it's the same as Sony MDR-series.
4: And well, the CPU usage is a issue, but that is the only part that I agree with you on..(but let us be frank, I've bought a pair of A2DP headset, so I do smell a bit "conflict of interests" here...)
And to the bottom line, I've bought the Trinity because it's one hell of a gadget, and so is bluetooth stereo So if anyone want to shoot me for that, well hell yeah, go ahead
Edit: And FYI meroupow: I do feel you are a bit rude in the way you wrote that response, or at least a bit arrogant when you post a comment like that. Trying to mock people who have bought A2DP headsets and are tweaking and fixing issues to make them work correct(this also goes for GPS on the phone, black coating comming off, improving camera quality, getting the ATI ImageOn to work correctly... etc) . And I must honestly say that yes, you do have some points there, but you should be able to present your views in a much more polite way...

Sound better but discontinuou. Impossible ear music. The sound goes on and off continuously. Why?. How can I do?

I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.

I've got a CB2530, hard to pair and I still don't know what do I do for the pairing to be successful, but I do manage to pair it after a few attempts, on the registry I just disable jointstereo, set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 320 and the quality is quite nice and with minimal skipping. High cpu usage of course, but if I set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 80 the quality is quite crappy and the device gets equally sluggish(gets worse when you touch on the screen, as K-Rally does even with the new ROM).
As for the pairing, I still haven't confirmed, but I think the registry setting that enables the bluesnarf option on BTCrawler has something to do with it(the bluetooth ISC mode thing), because right after setting it I managed to pair the headset right away, the thing is, I was also successful in other occasions when I hadn't set that reg. option.
Hearing the pairing sound from the trinity or headset doesn't indicate anything on my case, and I think I've already tried these reg settings you mention, but I'll try them again as soon as I get home to see if there's any difference and post the results.

meroupow said:
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
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Install the Widcomm BT stack. With that, you won't have complaints - neither have I.

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
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Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.

neofix said:
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
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Does anyone know what is changed when you DO pair with the button on the headphones? With some models, you MUST do it because, otherwise, the music will be muted after about a second (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282008 for more info).
I've searched around in the Registry for changes, without any success. It's possible we could directly edit the headphone connection-dependent parameters set AFTER the headphone's initiating the connection to avoid sound problems. If we knew where they're stored, that is.

Menneisyys said:
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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On trinity?

meroupow said:
I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.
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BTW: is it the profile and software on the phones/PDAs that arn't handling it, or is it the standard itself that sucks? (or in other words, should I keep my headset for later usage or return it to the store)

I use Plantronics 590a and the skipping problem appears very rarely, mainly when I use volume/track buttons on headset. However, yesterday I also connected the headset to a normal stereo (via the 3.5mm adapter) and noticed the same occasional skipping. So in my opinion the skipping issue problem might be from headset, not Trinity.
I also tried a Nokia stereo bluetooth headset and noticed serious skipping problems - unusable.
PS: there is indeed a skipping problem if I open/close other applications while listening to music. It looks like the processor is very busy - system very slow etc.
PPS: any suggestions for a player that has equalizer? WMP doesn't and the sound is not that great (especially when compared to my old SE P900 which had an excellent player - best I've heard so far... )

Originally Posted by Menneisyys
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)

Stereo BT experience is very positive
Hi all,
As always, someone has to have a different view of the issue. I got my trinity a couple of weeks ago and went and bought a Plantronics Pulsar 280 stereo headset. Mostly because of the stereo jack. I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design. Even you may choose the actual headset of your dreams by using the standard 2.5mm jack. I have owned a "no brand" headset (still do) but it is not BT 2.0 and I think it makes a difference. The plantronics does not skip and it sounds great. Most of my MP3 is 128k and above so no limits with that. I have not checked my registry settings as they are default rom image set. I am using ROM 1.15.412.2 and Radio 1.20.00.11 (my trinity only speaks spanish for now, hope to change that soon).
Point being that the software and quality of the headphones makes all the difference, don't be so quick to blame trinity, just a piece of my mind. Keep it up guys!!!

baramuse said:
If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)
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Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.

danosimo said:
Hi all,
I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design.
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If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!

aZooZa said:
Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.
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Up to now, I haven't managed to do it; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291605 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286094 . Sorry for telling you it might be possible - I assumed it would, as it is on most other HTC models.

anonimo said:
If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!
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set UseJointStereo to 0

AD2P is not really stereo

hi all
i just discover few days back that i realised there is quite difference in stereo sound when i use bluetooth stereo on laptop compared to my dopod.
is there any setting that can be done? Will sound equalizer (is there any?) helps?
has anybody feel the same too?
thanks..

Registry hack....HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/
set 1 to 0 for UseJointStereo

hdubli said:
Registry hack....HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/
set 1 to 0 for UseJointStereo
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ok..thanks..

I did the modification and sound is stereo... but quality is really poor, as if sounds comes out at 22khz and not 44khz .... Is use I-tech R35 or S38 which are working almost good wiyh HP6515 ....
Does someone have any idea what happens

Add some more:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/BitPool - from 30 change to 48
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/MaxSupportedBitPool - from 30 change to 58

Thank you, .... sound is much better now .... just now, I am missing the naviplay where the trebles where much better than with itech R35 or S38, I have at the moment....

cornelius said:
Add some more:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/BitPool - from 30 change to 48
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/MaxSupportedBitPool - from 30 change to 58
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thanks...it's more stereo now but now i'm experiencing"hissing"sound which never
before. can i adjust it to any other value? is there any combination i should follow?
thanks..

I found that "hissing" is dependant on the headset used.
My plantronics have almost no hiss, while my cheap i-tech things have lots.
Anybody else have the option to compare different headsets?

Pyrofer said:
I found that "hissing" is dependant on the headset used.
My plantronics have almost no hiss, while my cheap i-tech things have lots.
Anybody else have the option to compare different headsets?
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I use Samsung H200 for Handsfree - it has a sligt his when it initially connects which disappears as soon as the call is connected.

My Plantronics 590 headset has no hiss and sound absolutely clear and crisp.

Maybe the right placeereo head set and I paired it with my 7500 as a stereo head set
I posted this thread somewhere else,but it seems to me that people here understand the kind of problem I have
I use a motorola s9 st

feferosenbaum said:
I posted this thread somewhere else,but it seems to me that people here understand the kind of problem I have
I use a motorola s9 st
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And your problem is?

Oooooooops...
I didn't realize the whole message was missing,it is like when the celular line fails and you keep on talking...
Well so I have this magnificient Motorola headset S9 and I sucessfully paired it as a Hanfree and a Stereo headset
Everything is working perfect,except the fact that when I activate the voice tag (which usually with oter BT headset works perfectly) I cannot hear the beep telling me to say the voice tag and also I cant hear the confirmation (that the PDA understood what I said)
The voice tag DO work and if I am lucky it dials what I say but I can know only when someone pickup from the other side ....
when i dis-pair the stereo headset,it is working again.
I know it is not the most horrible problem reported in this forum,but if anyone can help....

How to play music via bluetooth device
I've got a set of Harman/kardon Soundstick II speakers and i wan't to play music wirelessly from my laptop (HP Pavilion dv6000 series) onto it i.e I don't wanna plug the speakers directly into the laptop.
I bought the Sony HWSBTA2W Bluetooth Transmitter/Receiver and have managed to connect/link it to my laptop. The problem is however, how do you get a music program such as Windows Media Player to play music via the Sony device. I have managed to play music from my Nokia 6600 phone through the device successfully but am unable to play music from my laptop.The Sony device appears as a bluetooth headset in my list of bluetooth devices, but does not appear as a speaker on my laptop.
And oh yes, my laptop is wireless and bluetooth enabled.
Or Is there another wireless dongle or bluetooth item of some kind that i can plug my speakers into and will stream the music down from my laptop.

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