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Trinity A2DP problems - Temporary solution

Well, I was unsure if I should post this under one of the old posts, but I decided to start it as a new clean post...
Many are having problem with "hissing" noise, joint-stereo and low bitrate(or bitpool). For my sake, I've tried "fit4cat - Hermes Tweaker", "Sleuth255 A2DP fix" and several other methods, but without beeing able to get the soundquality I want from my headset.
Now, this is what worked for me after tweaking around with the registry a while, and endless pairing sessions
Download a registry editor(I use PHM, http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ <- Download the PocketPC 2002/2003 ARM/PXA)
1: Turn off bluethooth on the Trinity
2: Unpair the Trinity with the headset(Delete the headset from the list!)
3: Change the following registry settings:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings
MaxSupportedBitPool=80
MinSupportedBitPool=40 (or more if you want)
(if these arn't there, add them!)
And DELETE:
UseJointStereo = 0/1 (depending on whatever you have put there before)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]
Priority256=149
(let the rest be as it is)
4: Reboot
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
So the solution to this, is to go to the device list on the trinity after you have lost connection with the headset(this is if you have turned of the trinity or the headset), and hold the stylus on it and choose "Use as wirelss stereo" and "use as handsfree"...
Thanks to all of you guys here who have posted solutions to the A2DP problems And if anyone have suggestions to other values that are better fit then the onces I've supplied, share them with us
And if all of this have been posted in another thread that I've missed out, the moderators are free to delete this one

Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.

Tiemen said:
Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.
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Hehe! The thing that made me going was that I was able to get perfect sound once or twice, and since I made it work those few times I just had to find out what I actually did that made this work (And paying 175$ for the headset also keept me fueled for a while ) hehe!
I think I've used about 5-6 hours total these two days sitting pairing, adjusting settings, rebooting(ARGH!), untill I found out that the problem actually occurs when you use the headset to pair instead of the trinity

I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?
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1: Well, I'm not sure on the bluetooth 2.0 specs, so If there is a spec limit on 64kbps, then this is new to me.
2: And the skippingproblem is not just connected to the CPU-usage.. But if you have some info on this issue, then please; do share it with us.
3: A2DP headset with minijack is available many places, even HTC has one. And if you take a look at DS970, you will see that it's the same as Sony MDR-series.
4: And well, the CPU usage is a issue, but that is the only part that I agree with you on..(but let us be frank, I've bought a pair of A2DP headset, so I do smell a bit "conflict of interests" here...)
And to the bottom line, I've bought the Trinity because it's one hell of a gadget, and so is bluetooth stereo So if anyone want to shoot me for that, well hell yeah, go ahead
Edit: And FYI meroupow: I do feel you are a bit rude in the way you wrote that response, or at least a bit arrogant when you post a comment like that. Trying to mock people who have bought A2DP headsets and are tweaking and fixing issues to make them work correct(this also goes for GPS on the phone, black coating comming off, improving camera quality, getting the ATI ImageOn to work correctly... etc) . And I must honestly say that yes, you do have some points there, but you should be able to present your views in a much more polite way...

Sound better but discontinuou. Impossible ear music. The sound goes on and off continuously. Why?. How can I do?

I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.

I've got a CB2530, hard to pair and I still don't know what do I do for the pairing to be successful, but I do manage to pair it after a few attempts, on the registry I just disable jointstereo, set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 320 and the quality is quite nice and with minimal skipping. High cpu usage of course, but if I set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 80 the quality is quite crappy and the device gets equally sluggish(gets worse when you touch on the screen, as K-Rally does even with the new ROM).
As for the pairing, I still haven't confirmed, but I think the registry setting that enables the bluesnarf option on BTCrawler has something to do with it(the bluetooth ISC mode thing), because right after setting it I managed to pair the headset right away, the thing is, I was also successful in other occasions when I hadn't set that reg. option.
Hearing the pairing sound from the trinity or headset doesn't indicate anything on my case, and I think I've already tried these reg settings you mention, but I'll try them again as soon as I get home to see if there's any difference and post the results.

meroupow said:
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
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Install the Widcomm BT stack. With that, you won't have complaints - neither have I.

meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
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Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.

neofix said:
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
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Does anyone know what is changed when you DO pair with the button on the headphones? With some models, you MUST do it because, otherwise, the music will be muted after about a second (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282008 for more info).
I've searched around in the Registry for changes, without any success. It's possible we could directly edit the headphone connection-dependent parameters set AFTER the headphone's initiating the connection to avoid sound problems. If we knew where they're stored, that is.

Menneisyys said:
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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On trinity?

meroupow said:
I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.
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BTW: is it the profile and software on the phones/PDAs that arn't handling it, or is it the standard itself that sucks? (or in other words, should I keep my headset for later usage or return it to the store)

I use Plantronics 590a and the skipping problem appears very rarely, mainly when I use volume/track buttons on headset. However, yesterday I also connected the headset to a normal stereo (via the 3.5mm adapter) and noticed the same occasional skipping. So in my opinion the skipping issue problem might be from headset, not Trinity.
I also tried a Nokia stereo bluetooth headset and noticed serious skipping problems - unusable.
PS: there is indeed a skipping problem if I open/close other applications while listening to music. It looks like the processor is very busy - system very slow etc.
PPS: any suggestions for a player that has equalizer? WMP doesn't and the sound is not that great (especially when compared to my old SE P900 which had an excellent player - best I've heard so far... )

Originally Posted by Menneisyys
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)

Stereo BT experience is very positive
Hi all,
As always, someone has to have a different view of the issue. I got my trinity a couple of weeks ago and went and bought a Plantronics Pulsar 280 stereo headset. Mostly because of the stereo jack. I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design. Even you may choose the actual headset of your dreams by using the standard 2.5mm jack. I have owned a "no brand" headset (still do) but it is not BT 2.0 and I think it makes a difference. The plantronics does not skip and it sounds great. Most of my MP3 is 128k and above so no limits with that. I have not checked my registry settings as they are default rom image set. I am using ROM 1.15.412.2 and Radio 1.20.00.11 (my trinity only speaks spanish for now, hope to change that soon).
Point being that the software and quality of the headphones makes all the difference, don't be so quick to blame trinity, just a piece of my mind. Keep it up guys!!!

baramuse said:
If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)
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Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.

danosimo said:
Hi all,
I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design.
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If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!

aZooZa said:
Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.
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Up to now, I haven't managed to do it; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291605 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286094 . Sorry for telling you it might be possible - I assumed it would, as it is on most other HTC models.

anonimo said:
If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!
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set UseJointStereo to 0

For those using the Athena as a primary phone

I am not. But, in the event I want to, I just bought this, the LG Style-i bluetooth 'mini-handset"(see link below), and, it works very nicely with the Athena. It has good sound, and the dialpad works well, and is extremely convenient. As is the incoming caller ID. And it is light, thin, and clips to a pocket nicely. It pairs easily, and stayed paired even when the Athena went into hibernation mode. It's perfect for use with the Athena.
I suggest it, for the potential $50 one can find it for on E-Bay (like I did).
It really is a pretty useless device, for anything else except the Athena! For any other phone, it's, well, like getting your dog a dog.
http://reviews.cnet.com/LG_Style_i/4505-1_7-31826853.html?tag=viddet

Yes, I was very tempted to get this, but I may as well carry a second phone...
Also, its like $45 post to UK, and i refuse to pay that. Its not really that expensive. I posted a repaired Universal back to the USA once for less than $20 in its box with all accessories!
I just ordered clip style bt headset with Stereo 3.5mm headphone jack. I listen to music a lot on the Athena and the style-i is no use for that.
I may still end up getting a Style-I if i can find one for a sensible price, it looks quite cool. Recently ive been answering the Athena on speakerphone with no BT headset. If you turn the volume down you can hold it to your ear like the older HTC phones. Only real problem is the giggles you get from surrounding people.

Well, the big advantage of the Style-i is the dial pad and caller ID. Makes for use like a real phone. And, it's tiny. Only con is there's no "+". You need to use 00 or 011, depending where you are to dial internaitonally.

I like it..r u using it now...can u inform how easy is the dial function?
Also does the contact list can be accessed?If u can throw more light,it will b nice..

hdubli said:
I like it..r u using it now...can u inform how easy is the dial function?
Also does the contact list can be accessed?If u can throw more light,it will b nice..
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I am using it, just to try out, as I really have my Athena as mainly a 3g data device.
You cannot access ocntacts, but, you can do voice dial.

where do you buy
thanks...

Pyrofer said:
I just ordered clip style bt headset with Stereo 3.5mm headphone jack. I listen to music a lot on the Athena and the style-i is no use for that.
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Which headset have you gone for. I'm thinking of ordering something similar for convenience. I'd appreciate hearing how you get on with yours.

I'm using the Jabra BT8010 and it has really made my Ameo work like a real phone in that I can leave it in my bag/briefcase and just have the headset in my pocket which vibrates and tells me who's calling. I know loads of headsets do this, but it also has an extra earphone so you can listen to music as well. Genius!

findus said:
I'm using the Jabra BT8010 and it has really made my Ameo work like a real phone in that I can leave it in my bag/briefcase and just have the headset in my pocket which vibrates and tells me who's calling. I know loads of headsets do this, but it also has an extra earphone so you can listen to music as well. Genius!
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Mee too using Jabra BT8010. Overall it's a good headset, the best perhaps. Only one minor thing is that it can't show contacts from my Dopod U1000. Just very annoying about that.

cayotte said:
Mee too using Jabra BT8010. Overall it's a good headset, the best perhaps. Only one minor thing is that it can't show contacts from my Dopod U1000. Just very annoying about that.
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The good thing about Jabra BT8010 is it has external screen and also you listen to music with it. My suggestion is if you only want one headset to do all this and don't really mind the sound quality, then Jabra is your best choose.
For other people who care about sound quality and want to use their own headset to listen music, then iTech clip D is not a bad choice too, I am using it at the moment, it also has external LCD screen and it display contact name correctly, so when someone call, you actually see their name on the screen.
No doubt these are the two best option out there for Athena.

But,none of these others have a dial pad, for making a call,correct?

Pyrofer said:
Yes, I was very tempted to get this, but I may as well carry a second phone...
Also, its like $45 post to UK, and i refuse to pay that. Its not really that expensive. I posted a repaired Universal back to the USA once for less than $20 in its box with all accessories!
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The way I figured it was: Start price on most seems to be $34. BIN is $60-something.
$-£ is so good right now, I'll swallow the $45 shipping if I get it for the start price.
And that's exactly what happened, because so many are listed people think the same way.
So - £40. Shipped.
Find me a Bluetooth headset in the UK for £40 delivered to your door that does what the Style-i appears to do (I don't have mine yet, probably next week I'll get it or later this week!).

I have one to!
I have one of the Style i handsets, it is a good little device. Makes whipping your phone out of your pocket a thing of the past!
Ive found that 99% of the time it pairs instantly. Also the voice commands work well too, for the lazy people out there!
The Style i works really well as a phone, you can either dial using the handset, or call a contact via the phone and it diverts through the handset.
I would say that the only annoying thing is remembering to take it everywhere along with my phone! (left it in my jacket pocket which i dont wear for work!) Oh well, not a major issue, just another piece of hardware to take with me.
Overall i'd say its a very good alternative for people wanting to use the phone side of the Ameo.

Got mine today! So - bought 4th May from the US, arrived 8th May signed-for delivery. That's pretty impressive. According to the receipt their actual postage costs are $24.80 for that service, so $20 - £10 - for eBay fees, time to pick and post the item (US Postal Service, if they use post offices then these usually involve a drive out and a wait, during business hours, even if they are using online payment/postage label printing facilities from eBay).
I don't think their postage charges are entirely unreasonable.
The device itself seems great - does exactly what I hoped it would do. Admittedly it's Yet Another Gadget to keep charged and try not to lose (I lost my original HBH-35 headset, and I was annoyed because it was really comfortable and reliable). I'll still use my BSH-100 headphones (or get better ones) for music and so forth, but this makes the Ameo totally useful as a phone - and given the rates T-Mobile give you for minutes, NOT using the Ameo as a phone is a bit of a waste!

Well, I really would get the Style-I £40 isnt so bad, but I want stereo. I dont want to have two headsets. (style-I + stereo headset)
I ordered the iTech R35 clip headset. It has Media controls for volume/track skip/play pause as well as a 3.5mm headphone jack. This means I can use standard headphones as well as still get all the BT calling benefits. Im looking for a nice pair of minidisk headphones now (they have extra short leads) to use with it. Ill let you know how I get on with it when it arrives.
I have the Plantronics Pulsar 590A headset, this is amazing. It has to be the best headset solution ive come across so far. The sound is great and it works for calls so well. Swapping between calls and music is easy and the buttons work without having to fiddle for ages. I would be using this every day if it wasnt for the fact that the charger socket has broken and I cant get them to charge The addition of a Bluetooth transmitter for my iPod makes it so usefull. I can even plug the transmitter into my PSP/DS etc and game while still able to take calls.
I bought a cheap I-Wing stereo headset from Maplin UK for £30. This works well, is very compact and apart from reasonably poor bass (not unexpected) its an ok solution. Easily pocketable and not too obtrusive when left around the neck.
I rate the Plantronics as the best ive used, but not entirely practicle for all day at work due to the size and the fact you look like a DJ with them round your neck.

wu5262 said:
The good thing about Jabra BT8010 is it has external screen and also you listen to music with it. My suggestion is if you only want one headset to do all this and don't really mind the sound quality, then Jabra is your best choose.
For other people who care about sound quality and want to use their own headset to listen music, then iTech clip D is not a bad choice too, I am using it at the moment, it also has external LCD screen and it display contact name correctly, so when someone call, you actually see their name on the screen.
No doubt these are the two best option out there for Athena.
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Jabra BT8010 sounds very good to my ears for music listening. it's surprisingly quite Euphonic and unexpected.

jlingo said:
Jabra BT8010 sounds very good to my ears for music listening. it's surprisingly quite Euphonic and unexpected.
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One of the most important feature of BT8010 is that it can vibrate. Really a perfect match when used with Athena.

jlingo said:
Jabra BT8010 sounds very good to my ears for music listening. it's surprisingly quite Euphonic and unexpected.
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it all depends on how much degree of music listening you want to go, personally, i care very much for the music listening experience, anything wireless sounds bad in my ear, and yes i can notice the different easily. This all depends on different people.
However i do agree that Jabra BT8010 is a good BT headset, btw, have you guys manage to show Name ID on the screen now?

wu5262 said:
it all depends on how much degree of music listening you want to go, personally, i care very much for the music listening experience, anything wireless sounds bad in my ear, and yes i can notice the different easily. This all depends on different people.
However i do agree that Jabra BT8010 is a good BT headset, btw, have you guys manage to show Name ID on the screen now?
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Haha of course you can't compare with your ACS earphones. I paired them with supermacro and resulting in astounding sound quality ever.
No I haven't managed to show Name ID on the screen.

jlingo said:
Haha of course you can't compare with your ACS earphones. I paired them with supermacro and resulting in astounding sound quality ever.
No I haven't managed to show Name ID on the screen.
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wow, another thing we have in common, i pair my ACS with Super Macro LE
nice little amp.
btw, since you are using your amp on Athena, do you mind telling me what cable you use to connect them? I am having problems with my old cable, it doesn't lock inside the Athena jack that well

One question before buying

Hi,
I am consider to buy X7500
But I have one question which is very important for me.
I know the issue of A2DP and jointstereo.After registry modification,I want to know the sound quality of X7500 via BLUETOOTH stereo headset.
I have sony's BRM-1 bt earphone...my primary concern is listennig music with X7500 via bluetooth headset.Is it good!?

taehoon said:
Hi,
I am consider to buy X7500
But I have one question which is very important for me.
I know the issue of A2DP and jointstereo.After registry modification,I want to know the sound quality of X7500 via BLUETOOTH stereo headset.
I have sony's BRM-1 bt earphone...my primary concern is listennig music with X7500 via bluetooth headset.Is it good!?
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Yes -- I have used the Motorola S9 (now broken) and the Jabra BT8010. Sounds good with both. Go for it.

hi there
i use it with my sony hbh ds970.
the only issues are:
would love it to be louder
and it doesnt display the caller name or song on the headset led.
over all the quality is good though.
hope this helps.
daryl mushtaq
no more tear stains for dogs

imaginarynumber said:
hi there
i use it with my sony hbh ds970.
the only issues are:
would love it to be louder
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Any louder and mine would burst my eardrums! Are you sure yours is the genuine item? I've heard there are fakes arround which aren't as loud.
Or do you just like your music VERY loud?

ive tryed 3 bluetooth stereo headphones now, none of them where loud enough. my last set plantronics are ok, but you just cant beat the quality of a wired set. IMHO

And AMEO/ATHENA could use a plain wired bose headset : 99 euro the in-ear, but you can use also the noise cancelling ones ....

I assume that my hbh's are real given that i purchased them from an orange store (at 40% more than expansis- my fault for being impatient I guess).
the supplied headset is akin to something you would find in a cracker. my b&o A8 headphones sound great but i want auto switching between calls and music hence the sony option..
can any one suggest a bluetooth tranceiver with caller id (that works with wm6), built in mike and media player controls that allow me to use my own headphones?
oh... and by the way i do like loud music but my bt headset is significantly quieter.
cheers
daryl mushtaq
angels eyes- no more tear stains for dogs

imaginarynumber said:
I assume that my hbh's are real given that i purchased them from an orange store (at 40% more than expansis- my fault for being impatient I guess).
the supplied headset is akin to something you would find in a cracker. my b&o A8 headphones sound great but i want auto switching between calls and music hence the sony option..
can any one suggest a bluetooth tranceiver with caller id (that works with wm6), built in mike and media player controls that allow me to use my own headphones?
oh... and by the way i do like loud music but my bt headset is significantly quieter.
cheers
daryl mushtaq
angels eyes- no more tear stains for dogs
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You might consider the Jabra BT8010 which can function either way.

imaginarynumber said:
hi there
i use it with my sony hbh ds970.
the only issues are:
would love it to be louder
and it doesnt display the caller name or song on the headset led.
over all the quality is good though.
hope this helps.
daryl mushtaq
no more tear stains for dogs
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Hi IN,
does your HBH-DS970 vibrate at all? Mine doesn't and I can't find info on how to set it to vibrate mode. If it doesn't vibrate then this headset and its retarded sister (HBH-DS980, which I bought) are the dumbest headsets that have ever been built. They don't VIBRATE!!! So the only way to get call notification is to wear the ear pieces all the time. If you're thinking of buying it for your Athena, save yourself the trouble. DON'T!!!!!!! I'm returning it to Fry's Electronics after work today. Too bad as they are soo stylish. But then it's common for hot looking guys/girls to have no brains..... and hot looking electronics to have important functions missing!!!

hi there
nope mine doesn't vibrate but then to be fair I purchased in knowing that it doesn't.
there is a bluetooth watch (thingy) that will eventually be compatible with wm phones that will vibrate (not the sony/fosil ones). I will post back once it reaches market.
In an ideal world I would love a remote bluetooth device with vibrate, led/lcd (compatible with wm), built in mike, allows me to use my B&O head phones, complete control of media player (fm radio would also be nice).
surely not too much to ask for???
I think the closest is the NOKIA-HS-12W (not sure if it still marketed though)

Cool... Thanks for the info.

Best Stereo Headset for Kaiser

Anyone used any BT A2DP headsets with Kaiser that run without any skipping and such? If so please give make and model. Likewise anyone with ones that are not very good with Kaiser please notate here as well. Am looking to buy some but want to ensure they are compatible.
Thanks,
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i would like the answer to this also...

my nokia hs-12W works w/o skipping

The Jabra 620s
i think the Jabra 620s is the best i know it is big but the standby and batteri time is a big + after updating the firmware it even better no need for any tweaks, even if you want to use microsofts voice command to make call og starting any apps

I have no problems with my Plantronics 590a.

can yo use next-track buttons from jabra with any software?

sound quality on my motorola ht820's is great and ive been listening to some really long mp3's on it too (~30mins) with no skipping or anything - only thing that really narks me is that i cant get the damn things to work if i turn wifi on on my handset - ASDF!!"!!! (i even sent my unit back because i thought this was a hardware fault - turns out its just bluetooth not playing nicely with wifi - im still skeptical)

The Jabra 620s
it works with Audio manager and Media player

apjad said:
it works with Audio manager and Media player
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have you tried "pocket player" or any other?

apjad said:
i think the Jabra 620s is the best i know it is big but the standby and batteri time is a big + after updating the firmware it even better no need for any tweaks, even if you want to use microsofts voice command to make call og starting any apps
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Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino

Motorola S9
I love the Motorola s9
small in your ears, long battery life,
and it pairs with two devices at the same time, for ex. your phone and your iPod..( i use the BT adapter for ipod from iMuffs MA110)
mini usb charger..
the only think i don't like is the the phone plays only on the left (not stereo)
A.

apjad said:
i think the Jabra 620s is the best i know it is big but the standby and batteri time is a big + after updating the firmware it even better no need for any tweaks, even if you want to use microsofts voice command to make call og starting any apps
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Two questions!....
. The volume keys in the jabra... do they modify the volume of the kaiser?, or only internal one?
. Can you use the kaiser charger for this headset?, is it miniUsb standar?
Thanks!

My vote is for the Lubix UBHS-NC1, no skipping, full controls on headset (even fast forward and rewing) and looks cool (hangs around your neck when not in use.

My HP iPAQ bluetooth headset works fine as well.

alexk said:
I love the Motorola s9
small in your ears, long battery life,
and it pairs with two devices at the same time, for ex. your phone and your iPod..( i use the BT adapter for ipod from iMuffs MA110)
mini usb charger..
the only think i don't like is the the phone plays only on the left (not stereo)
A.
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QFT, Motorola S9 has performed well, all button functions seem to work properly & works & sounds great for playing audio off a micro SD. Just make sure the volume is up on the device to avoid background static from too low input volume.

Which BT Headsets work??

All,
I thought I would start a thread where people can post what headsets they have and/or are using with the Kaiser. That way, if people want to buy a headset to use with the Kaiser they can know ahead of time whether or not it will work. I love this device, but right now I am not very pleased with my headset. Respond and I will try to keep it up to date!!
1. (Me) Plantronics 665 - Previously a very good headset. Now with Kaiser, not very good quality. Barely functional with lots of static.
2. Moto H700 - Seems to be good. (x2)
3. Moto HT820 - Stereo Headphones, but good.
4. Plantronics 310 - No report.

I'm using the Motorola H700 and it works fine.

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I'm using the Motorola H700 and it works fine.
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I am using the HT700 for standard driving. But I also use the Motorola HT820, BT stereo headphones, and they work as well. Music plays from the phone, and if a phone call comes in, Microsoft Voice Command annouces the caller. I can then press the call phone, the music pauses, I take the call. When the call is over, the music resumes where it left off.

i have a set of the ht820 but I feel like a retard with em on cause they are huge, anyone tried those new slim ones they sell at the ATT store?

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i have a set of the ht820 but I feel like a retard with em on cause they are huge, anyone tried those new slim ones they sell at the ATT store?
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Then call the Olympics, cause I feel special

For me it’s a Plantronics 310 right now, but I'm looking to upgrade. I will likely stick with one of their products too, as I’ve processed around a quarter million inbound via their wired sets at work.
There was mention of a pretty cool Jawbone modification by AVERYSOUND in an earlier thread. It’s pricy however but worth looking at. It appears to address complaints I’ve heard about the earpiece not being a factor.
Update: I found Discovery 510 (Plantronics) that I had misplaced some time back. Well I charged it up and paired to the Kaiser earlier today. What a bummer. The sound quality is ok, but the volume is just too low, even at the max setting. It’s also bit more cumbersome to slip on in a pinch (like while driving). Bottom line is the 310 sounds much better to me from a volume standpoint.
Fwiw…

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Wanted to bump this post back up.

jspohn said:
Then call the Olympics, cause I feel special
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me too, doesn't stop me from wearing them
the new ones do look a whole lot cooler, I didn't care so much but with as sleek as the tilt looks my headphones should match

The Blueant Z9 works very well. I like how voice command is announced through the headset.

Jabra JX10
I have the JX10. It was a dream with my 8525 it sounded and worked great.
caveat: in general it is a very delicate and breakable headset -- I have had two of them and done numerous repairs to keep them from falling apart - I have cannibalized the first to keep the second one going - but what the hell, I love that little head set with my 8525.
BUT
It is an unusable pig connected to the Tilt.
It pairs ok, but when you activate voice command or try to answer a call it activates the phone but will not transfer sound (or mic) to the ear piece. Sometimes after a short time the JX10 beeps and then you can hit the connect button again and it will transfer the sound. If you place a call it will not play the ring signal into the ear piece or the handset and it will only allow you to connect sound (signaling you with a couple of beeps) to hear the call until after the called party has answered.
Maddening!
I've actually struggle to answer or make a call using it and finally got the sound through only to hear my friends on the other side yelling "HELLO?! - HELLO! - YOUR PHONE SUCKS!"
it's embarrassing.
Don't even get me started about how bad it sounds on the Tilt.
I'm tempted to go back to the Hermes, but I love my new Tilt...
I need a high quality compatible headset...

The Samsung WEP200 works very well with the Tilt.

im using the plantronics 590 and it works LIKE A CHARM!

there's a thread on this over in accessories btw. I'm moving this thread there as well. Let me know if you want me to merge the two.

Motorola S9 works very well. Much better than with WM6 on Hermes.
I still need to verify my Sony Erickson DS970 Lanyard Wireless Stereo Headset..

Jawbone
I purcahsed the jawbone with military sound dampening....its pretty cool. I use it alot and it sounds GREAT!
Now I am alos looking at the Mototola s9, as I want to be able to listen to music. Let me know if anyone has robb with the S9. for the reviews on the Motorola S9 seem 50/50.

Jasperkins said:
I purcahsed the jawbone with military sound dampening....its pretty cool. I use it alot and it sounds GREAT!
Now I am alos looking at the Mototola s9, as I want to be able to listen to music. Let me know if anyone has robb with the S9. for the reviews on the Motorola S9 seem 50/50.
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I have been using mine for about 2 months and so FAR really good with the ATT Stock ROM. On the Hermes with WM6 cooked ROM's I experienced strange issues like music resuming after a call (even though the music was paused BEFORE the call came in). Since getting away from the cooked Hermes ROM's (no offense to anyone at all), the performance has been SOLID. I am very Happy...
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Jabra BT8010 Convertible (single/stereo) headset
Well, since I figured I was going to be really stepping into the 21st century by getting my Tilt, I determined to jump into it with both feet ! Hence this headset.
I did alot of research on the BT headset (like I did on the Kaiser/Tilt itself), and I knew pretty much what I wanted to do -- and this Jabra BT8010 convertible (mono/stereo) headset totally fit the bill. I planned on answering calls as normal, but I listen to alot of music, too, and wanted just one thing to carry around. If you haven't seen one of these headsets online, it's about the only one I'm aware of that "converts" -- that is, it has a main unit, and the "second half", or "satellite" that makes the stereo part of the equation optionally plugs into and tethers to the main part when you want to listen to music, too. The whole thing is quite small and svelte -- though ever so slightly "cyborg" (you'd have to see it worn).
The function of this headset has been flawless so far, and the sound quality is just mind-blowing (yeah, it's that good). Volume won't get quite as head-bangingly loud as I might like, but the overall fidelity and usable flexibility of this combo just puts it head over shoulders above anything else I've tested out.
A little pricey, but they are just really good.

I use the stereo headset Jabra BT620s with the Kaiser. It works very well both for music and for the phone, even in noisy environments

The old school Motorola HS850 works fine from my experience. I also own a Jawbone, which sounds tinny when compared to the HS850.

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I have been using mine for about 2 months and so FAR really good with the ATT Stock ROM. On the Hermes with WM6 cooked ROM's I experienced strange issues like music resuming after a call (even though the music was paused BEFORE the call came in). Since getting away from the cooked Hermes ROM's (no offense to anyone at all), the performance has been SOLID. I am very Happy...
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Motorola S9 for me too
though I could never paired it to a 2nd device SIMULTANEOUSLY though ... any advice ??
I followed the instructions to a T ... yet, it always paired to the last one ... I thought this is capable of upto 9 devices in list ... and they said it's capabled of simultaneous pairing ???
summary:
/ paired to phone.
/ turn off phone and attempt to paired to 2nd device ( desktop stereo ... desktop PC ..etc..etc
/ even went as far as "unticked" the "use as stereo headset" withing the bluetooth setting on phone !! only ticked as " use as handsfree " ... tried both ways too.
it always connect only the the last paired device.
now ... if I'd only paired to the phone ... it works as advertised in terms of listening to music and calls come in get interupted to answer the call & back to music when call ended.
but I can't use it as just handsfree on the phone and listen to music from another device ( bluetooth home entertainment ... desktop bluetooth PC...etc )
pairing to any device(s) individually works fine ... just not simultaneously though
any advice ???