Engadget Nexus One hands on! - Nexus One General

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Very Nice.
I am buying one sight unseen in person.

Awesome write up & pic's...can't wait
Here's some of the text from the link for you all:
"That's right, humans -- Engadget has its very own Nexus One. You've seen leaked pics and videos from all over, but we're the first publication to get our very own unit, and we plan on giving you guys the full story on every nook and cranny of this device. In case you've been living under a rock, here's the breakdown of the phone. The HTC-built and (soon to be) Google-sold device runs Android 2.1 atop a 1GHz Snapdragon CPU, a 3.7-inch, 480 x 800 display, has 512MB of ROM, 512MB of RAM, and a 4GB microSD card (expandable to 32GB). The phone is a T-Mobile device (meaning no 3G if you want to take it to AT&T), and includes the standard modern additions of a light sensor, proximity sensor, and accelerometer. The Nexus One has a 5 megapixel camera with LED flash, and we have to say so far the pictures it snaps look pretty decent (and the camera software is much faster than the same component on the Droid). The phone is incredibly thin and sleek -- a little thinner than the iPhone -- but it has pretty familiar HTC-style industrial design. It's very handsome, but not blow-you-away good looking. It's a very slim, very pocketable phone, and feels pretty good in your hand. Thought you'd have to wait for that Google event for more on the Nexus One? Hell no -- so read on for an in-depth look. C'mon, you know you want to."

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dam now im more excited than ever about this phone! look at thes screen its so CRISP!!!!!!

melterx12 said:
dam now im more excited than ever about this phone! look at thes screen its so CRISP!!!!!!
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Yep, that AMOLED display rocks!

Wow thats amazing looking lol

will the multitouch be added in the next firmwares?

who knows? but cyanogen said on his twitter that hes getting the nexus so we can most likely expect CM with multitouch

DarkVasyaK said:
will the multitouch be added in the next firmwares?
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Most likely not unless google wants to pay Apple. I believe apple has patent rights for multitouch in the US. Thus, no multi touch devices in the US. Look at MOT Droid vs milestone.

seraph1024 said:
Most likely not unless google wants to pay Apple. I believe apple has patent rights for multitouch in the US. Thus, no multi touch devices in the US. Look at MOT Droid vs milestone.
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Pretty sure hero has multitouch capability...

andythefan said:
Pretty sure hero has multitouch capability...
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Not on the google maps as far as I know....

multitouch is purely a software feature so yes it can expected

jamesyb0i said:
multitouch is purely a software feature so yes it can expected
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I don't think I made myself clear. Multitouch is already there. It is disabled by google per their internal agreement with Apple. I believe it has to do with Patent #7,479,949. Yes HTC has it enabled on their ROMs. I have no idea what the agreement between HTC and Cupertino lies. But none of the google's current core apps have multi-touch enabled. Can they be enabled? Sure. Google did it for iphone on the maps. But for now, I don't forsee it happening yet. We'll have to modify it using HTC ROM. I'll most likely like the sense UI anyhow. So, I have no issue with that.

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I don't think I made myself clear. Multitouch is already there. It is disabled by google per their internal agreement with Apple. I believe it has to do with Patent #7,479,949. Yes HTC has it enabled on their ROMs. I have no idea what the agreement between HTC and Cupertino lies. But none of the google's current core apps have multi-touch enabled. Can they be enabled? Sure. Google did it for iphone on the maps. But for now, I don't forsee it happening yet. We'll have to modify it using HTC ROM. I'll most likely like the sense UI anyhow. So, I have no issue with that.
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I would think that if Loccy could do it in Browser for the G1/MyTouch, then it could be enabled in the other apps, no?

I am using the Hero21 rom release and if you pinch out on the main screen (multi-touch) it zooms out and you can see all 7 panels. There are other ways to enable multi-touch at the moment but it is buggy.
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multitouch is disabled at the kernel level on the stock ROM. to enable multitouch on any app you would first need to install a ROM with a kernel that has it enabled.

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multitouch is disabled at the kernel level on the stock ROM. to enable multitouch on any app you would first need to install a ROM with a kernel that has it enabled.
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Sure we don't know about the Nexus One yet but since it's possible to get multitouch on the Motorola Droid with the original ROM and kernel(see Dolphin browser for example) isn't it a likely possibility that the situation will be the same regrding the Nexus One?

i dobut it, nexus one is a google phone. Both g1 and mytouch were also google experience phones. the droid is not a google experience phone. its stock like the HTC hero. it doesnt matter really since we will all get multitouch when cyanogen makes his rom.

melterx12 said:
i dobut it, nexus one is a google phone. Both g1 and mytouch were also google experience phones. the droid is not a google experience phone. its stock like the HTC hero. it doesnt matter really since we will all get multitouch when cyanogen makes his rom.
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Agreed. Let's get the phone first. Then we'll mod later. We don't even know when we can actually buy and when we'll get it in our hands.

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Next Android Phone w/ Physical Keyboard?

I had been under the impression that the Hero had a physical keyboard. Now that I know that it doesn't, has there been any word about a new Android phone with a physical keyboard?
ATT will be releasing the lancaster in the next few months.http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/24/htc-lancaster-is-a-qwerty-slider-with-android-for-atandt/
Deathwish238 said:
I had been under the impression that the Hero had a physical keyboard. Now that I know that it doesn't, has there been any word about a new Android phone with a physical keyboard?
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Samsung Bigfoot.
T-Mo needs another good HTC handset with a keyboard. The Dream is becoming old school more by the minute. I want something suitable to replace it once my contract's up, and I don't feel like hopping to AT&T. Not to mention that bordering keys on phones is bad for non-visual key identification, the Dream's separated keys help improve key identification without looking.
Well the G1 is turing into the Iphone. So I dont think it will be old school dead, just hope they keep upgrading it in a GOOD way. Adding a flash to the camera and keyboard support would be a good start... focusing on its linux backend is another, allowing for USB input devices would give it the win. Basic elements. Puddy to give it form, Duct Tape to bind it together, Caffinee to make it go. =)
ubernicholi said:
ATT will be releasing the lancaster in the next few months.http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/24/htc-lancaster-is-a-qwerty-slider-with-android-for-atandt/
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Based on the specs, it seems like a downgrade. 4 row keyboard vs 5 row, QVGA vs HVGA, fixed focus camera vs auto-focus..
aceo07 said:
Based on the specs, it seems like a downgrade. 4 row keyboard vs 5 row, QVGA vs HVGA, fixed focus camera vs auto-focus..
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Good to know. Heh Its been debated G1 beats G2, and if G1 beats the ATT one.. so far Im thinking wise investment so far.
I do wonder about that Samsung Android tho..
Samsung is going to be releasing the I7500 Galaxy with 8GB of internal memory and a 3.2 AMOLED 16M Color screen. 5MP autofocus camera with a flash.
Motorola will be releasing some phones as well. Nothing much about them yet.
I remember reading on TmoNews a while ago that there is supposed to be a G1 v.2 late this year, I beleive it is a physical redesign to help its' looks.
Basically has anyone noticed the G1 really was built to last? I havent anything that scream "OMG I GOTTA UPGRADE TO THIS MODEL!" yet. G1 so far has outlasted iphones launch.. I mean soon as they got it, they came out with a 3g model. Something we already have.
Only thing to make G1 perfect. Add flash camera, more internal memory and hell, why not a linux-swap partition built in. =p
We definitely don't want swap. Just more RAM.
The RAM is fine. I wish they rebuilt the browser with the Native Developement Kit. That would probably solve most of the problems. Getting more PoP RAM is just not possible because MICRON has to get their lard asses and do it.
But since ARM architecture isn't their prime investment it'll be a while before we see anything.
I heard a few IRC members were doing the initial looks at hardware hacking. I don't know all the details but if anything we could definetly add flash to the camera if the genius IRC guys figure it out.
You could easily add an external flash via the serial port. It would, however, be somewhat bulky. If you build it in, then you need to butcher it. Either way, it seems perfectly pointless... its not a camera, its a phone/pda.
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The RAM is fine. I wish they rebuilt the browser with the Native Developement Kit. That would probably solve most of the problems. Getting more PoP RAM is just not possible because MICRON has to get their lard asses and do it.
But since ARM architecture isn't their prime investment it'll be a while before we see anything.
I heard a few IRC members were doing the initial looks at hardware hacking. I don't know all the details but if anything we could definetly add flash to the camera if the genius IRC guys figure it out.
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Lancaster = Serious Fail. The chip it uses does not include the ATI 3D acceleration that all the other Android Phones have.
It's like AT&T purposly wants Android to fail instead of releasing a real device.
Maybe Hero.
Rogers Dream on AT&T 3G is great.
-James
The 256MB ROM / 192MB RAM of the G1 is inadequate.
If they bumped it up to at least the 512MB ROM / 288MB RAM of the Canadian Magic and the Hero, bumped the camera to 5MP w/ a flash, and added a slightly larger battery, the G1 would be good for another couple of years. Just about everything else can be addressed in software.
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Lancaster = Serious Fail. The chip it uses does not include the ATI 3D acceleration that all the other Android Phones have.
It's like AT&T purposly wants Android to fail instead of releasing a real device.
Maybe Hero.
Rogers Dream on AT&T 3G is great.
-James
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no sh!t they want it to fail, why would they want to sell something that will take away from there [email protected] 3gsucks? I haven't seen any ads for anything but that on att
ITs just the battery that should be improved in G1, everything else will do for now...
predo said:
ITs just the battery that should be improved in G1, everything else will do for now...
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its best to invest in a bigger battery. I would but I cannot find any in NYC
Mysticales said:
Basically has anyone noticed the G1 really was built to last? I havent anything that scream "OMG I GOTTA UPGRADE TO THIS MODEL!" yet. G1 so far has outlasted iphones launch.. I mean soon as they got it, they came out with a 3g model. Something we already have.
Only thing to make G1 perfect. Add flash camera, more internal memory and hell, why not a linux-swap partition built in. =p
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faster processor and larger internal memory would be good then we could run the hero roms more efficiently lol.
I would believe ATT and Apple BOTH want it to fail.. afterall that market is about iphones. So ever other GSM is countering iphone with a better android. And isnt he soooo cute. ^^

Google Phone

looks like it's goign to be the replacement for the g1, who's going to get it? rumors say jan 5th
I have it. It's very nice. It runs liek butta.
I'm probably going to get it. It looks as if there is already a system dump. at AndroidSPIN.com. I hope some devs will start working on this.
How much bigger is the screen then the g1? And I'm guessing batterey life is a lot better
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How much bigger is the screen then the g1? And I'm guessing batterey life is a lot better
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3.7" and I don't know about the battery life yet (got it couple hours ago).
3.7 wide ,and how tall
Wish i worked for google
marty22877 said:
3.7 wide ,and how tall
Wish i worked for google
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Who measures screens length and width? It is 3.7" diagonally...
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I have it. It's very nice. It runs liek butta.
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Can you tell us if it trumps the Droid in all respects (aside from not having a qwerty)? I'm sure you can't be specific, but I just want to know if it's going to have more RAM and a faster processor. Also, if you could let us know about battery life, that would be sweet.
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Can you tell us if it trumps the Droid in all respects (aside from not having a qwerty)? I'm sure you can't be specific, but I just want to know if it's going to have more RAM and a faster processor. Also, if you could let us know about battery life, that would be sweet.
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Of course, its from HTC of course So its a quality product nonetheless you have nothing to worry.The droid had some cam problems i heard.nexus has snapped-dragon @700MHZ i think.
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Can you tell us if it trumps the Droid in all respects (aside from not having a qwerty)? I'm sure you can't be specific, but I just want to know if it's going to have more RAM and a faster processor. Also, if you could let us know about battery life, that would be sweet.
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Can't say much about the Droid, as I don't own one. Therefore I don't know the long run with it. The nexus has twice the ram and about twice the cpu clock speed compared to the Droid, but iirc, the Droid has a dedicated gpu.
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Of course, its from HTC of course So its a quality product nonetheless you have nothing to worry.The droid had some cam problems i heard.nexus has snapped-dragon @700MHZ i think.
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It at 1 GHz
Since the phone is unlocked, im hoping i can get it to recieve 3G from Tmo or Att
Would be nice to use the sense 2.1 instead of Nexus Ui.
Ace42 said:
Since the phone is unlocked, im hoping i can get it to recieve 3G from Tmo or Att
Would be nice to use the sense 2.1 instead of Nexus Ui.
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Nexus One has already been passed through the FCC, and is confirmed that the phone supports both Tmo and Att 3G basebands
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scratch that, seems that it's Tmo 3G supported, not Att
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/htc-nexus-one-blessed-by-the-fcc-with-t-mobile-and-att-huspa/
What about that rumor of it being 199..
I hope this phone will be avaliable from HTC (maybe in europe).
Might sound strange but I actually like my phones to say HTC on them instead of something like "T-Mobile".
brummiesteven said:
I hope this phone will be avaliable from HTC (maybe in europe).
Might sound strange but I actually like my phones to say HTC on them instead of something like "T-Mobile".
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these phones aren't carrier branded. These phones are to be sold directly by google. The basebands that were tested by the FCC just shows that the Nexus One is showing full T-mobile 3G support. These phones are Unlocked GSM phones
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Can't say much about the Droid, as I don't own one. Therefore I don't know the long run with it. The nexus has twice the ram and about twice the cpu clock speed compared to the Droid, but iirc, the Droid has a dedicated gpu.
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Sounds fantastic so far... I was under the impression there was a version of Snapdragon chipset with dedicated GPU... so this definitely doesn't have a dedicated GPU?
uansari1 said:
Sounds fantastic so far... I was under the impression there was a version of Snapdragon chipset with dedicated GPU... so this definitely doesn't have a dedicated GPU?
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Not sure, all I know it has a "QUALCOMM QSD 8250, 1 GHz"
it's amazing how fast this forum progresses when a new phone comes out.
google phone was released its employees, and there's already a dump of the android 2.1 on the dev section.
Can't wait till this comes out, would be a nice successor to my g1
Is nexus set up with gizmo for free voip calls.
Feel free to ignore this q if it is dumb or if answering it would get you in trouble. But I was curious whether the phone was set up to easily make free VOIP calls domestically using a combination of google voice (perhaps enabled by gizmo5 which google recently acquired).
What a killer feature if it is feasible from a regulatory perspective.
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Feel free to ignore this q if it is dumb or if answering it would get you in trouble. But I was curious whether the phone was set up to easily make free VOIP calls domestically using a combination of google voice (perhaps enabled by gizmo5 which google recently acquired).
What a killer feature if it is feasible from a regulatory perspective.
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Being that flan is leak to the wazoo...well, there is not much to hide (except the dude who leaked the ROM...no joke.)
Anyways,
GV is hard integrated. You can use the N1 as a gv/wifi phone if you want with no need to sign-up for a cellular service.

Nexus One or Htc Bravo?

I really like my G1 but i'm thinking on upgrading to a new phone in a couple of months...the phone that have been in my mind actually is the Nokia N900...but now with the nice looing N1 things have change...now so far what i know is that the Htc Bravo is gonna have a better camera but a less RAM that the N1...and is gonna have the Sense UI...which i like...anyway any comments on this?
where did you hear that?
I'm not to sure on the camera part but I did hear it's got 320MB of Ram.
I heard that too but where did you hear it was going to have a better camera? Also none of the stuff about the RAM is confirmed, although Sense UI is most definatly going to be included, but the Nexus One with a custom sense UI rom will be able to run sense UI better anyway if the part about the RAM is true.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/01/13/3-sweden-says-its-getting-htc-bravo-in-march/
maybe i was wrong about the camera can't find the source...
actually it has a addition of a five megapixel AF cam capable of 720p video capture
DKM119 said:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/01/13/3-sweden-says-its-getting-htc-bravo-in-march/
maybe i was wrong about the camera can't find the source...
actually it has a addition of a five megapixel AF cam capable of 720p video capture
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That would be the same camera as the N1. I may be biased but I would say that the Nexus One wins against the Bravo hands down.
I'd just get the Nexus One so you can have a snap dragon phone now then you can install a Sense rom when that comes out.
QMAN101 said:
That would be the same camera as the N1. I may be biased but I would say that the Nexus One wins against the Bravo hands down.
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would you care to elaborate?
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I'd just get the Nexus One so you can have a snap dragon phone now then you can install a Sense rom when that comes out.
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Actually the Bravo has a snapdrangon too....i really like the way it look and i think the optical "balltrack" looks awesome...
Look man, the camera is probably going to be the same. The Nexus One will have more RAM, and therefore a Sense UI Custom ROM on the Nexus One will run smoother than any Sense UI ROM on the Bravo. Its pretty clear that the choice, assuming you plan to root the phone and install a custom ROM, is the N1.
I like the optical "trackball" a lot better too. I just think that Google would do software updates more/faster than HTC. And I don't care for the Sense UI anymore. Vanilla Android (with tweaks from xda members) is enough for me.
parrot5 said:
I like the optical "trackball" a lot better too. I just think that Google would do software updates more/faster than HTC. And I don't care for the Sense UI anymore. Vanilla Android (with tweaks from xda members) is enough for me.
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The optical trackpad is fascinating, if they could light the trackpad with a tri-color led, then I would be interested more.
I think Google was aware of the Bravo when HTC made the Nexus One. They probably were okay with HTC releasing a phone with the same core hardware as the N1 (minus the extra RAM).
EDIT: For me the big incentive for the N1 is the "generally" Vanilla install. With my Sprint Hero, I removed the extras. A lot of people like Sense though, but I waited for a while and realized that Sprint wasn't going to release updates in a timely manner. If I had to rely on anyone for updates, I'm more comfortable relying on Google (and occasionally HTC) for them.
bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released
hoss_n2 said:
bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released
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What the heck are you talking about???...Htc Bravo is getting release in April...and it may be similar to the N1 but is not the same...
hoss_n2 said:
bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released
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Bravo was listed on HTC's leaked roadmap as reported on this very site:
XDA Developers - [EXCLUSIVE] HTC Portfolio 2010 (Q1-Q2)
Also, here is the other article:
SlashGear - HTC 2010 roadmap leaks: HTC Bravo 1GHz Android confirmed [Updated]
The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 over the bravo if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.
Im assuming its CDMA ? Thatd be weird to drop this one on GSM bands so quickly unless its ATT.
Love the optical trackball alot.
I hope those expresso videos Ive seen arent accurate, sense UI looks seriously uglified.
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The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 vs bravo at a t-mobile store if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.
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you know i used to buy stuff...i used to pre-order stuff long time ago...now i just wait a little see the reviews from people that jump to buy stuff as soon as they came out...and then i get my stuff acording to thoese reviews...i'm gonna wait for the Bravo to be on the market and how thing are...on another note i think that the HTC Bravo look way more cooler than the N1...but that is just me...
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The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 over the bravo if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.
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Rushed like the N1 was? Simply because SOME people are having 3G connection issues, and SOME people are having dust under the screen means it was rushed? This means that the manufactures aren't "manufacturing" the device correctly obviously (not the 3G part). I don't believe it was rushed, I just think they don't know how to make the device at wherever they are shipping it from. If anything, this same exact thing could possibly happen to the Bravo - if they haven't learned from these past mistakes.
This 3G issue seems simply retarded, and I have no way of helping the N1 out on it sadly. I can't see why people would be having connectivity issues. That, I must admit, I guess is an issue that the N1 has. But people are making such a big, please note an - unnecessary - deal out of these issues just to bash the device..not cool >.>
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I can't see why people would be having connectivity issues. That, I must admit, I guess is an issue that the N1 has. But people are making such a big, please note an - unnecessary - deal out of these issues just to bash the device..not cool >.>
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I don't own a N1 but are this devices supposse to be phones before anything else...i mean if anybody have problem with the "connectivity"...i think is rigth that the are making big deal out of it...in another note lots a people paid $530 for the N1...dude if i'm paying $530 for a phone at least i need "connectivity"...and dont think anybody (beside engadget and iphones junkies) are bashing the device.

HTC (verizon) Incredible has proper multi-touch (unlike desire/nexus)

just thought some of you might wanna know,
apparently the HTC incredible is fitted with a brand new (late 2009) maXTouch sensor with unlimited touch support,
vs the Nexus one/desire old synaptic cleartouch 2000 (inaccurate "dualtouch" implementation).
www .engadget.com/2010/04/26/confirmed-droid-incredibles-multitouch-support-is-better-than/
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it kinda feels like the nexus one we bought is getting phased out real quick,
what makes it difficult is its all in the hardware side
no wonder verizon dropped the nexus-one, who would get one vs an internal 8gb, proper multi-touch, 8mp camera upgraded phone ?
im willing to bet it wont have any 3G issues either..
if only incredible wasnt so damn ugly, here's hoping for a Super AMOLED EVO ( im having doubts about its TFT screen )
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just thought some of you might wanna know,
apperantly the HTC incredible is fitted with a late 2009 maXTouch sensor with unlimited touch support, vs the Nexus ones old synaptic cleartouch 2000.
www .engadget.com/2010/04/26/confirmed-droid-incredibles-multitouch-support-is-better-than/
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it kinda feels like the nexus one we bought is getting phased out real quick, what makes it difficult is its all in the hardware side
no wonder verizon dropped the nexus-one, who would get one vs
an internal 8gb, proper multi-touch, 8mp camera upgraded phone ?
probably doesnt have any 3G issues either..
if only incredible wasnt so damn ugly, here's waiting for a Super AMOLED EVO ( im having doubts about its TFT screen )
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all this is sh*t the hd2 has the same screen as nexus one and it can track the fingures right it is all driver issue look at this videos ,and who said that nexus one has the clearpad 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgTxo_Ia27o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD3c...watch_response
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFUh...eature=related
Will the later batches of the Nexus One use this new MaxTouch sensor? I will be disappointed if they do because that would mean that I paid the same price for an inferior device.
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all this is sh*t the hd2 has the same screen as nexus one and it can track the fingures right it is all driver issue look at this videos ,and who said that nexus one has the clearpad 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgTxo_Ia27o
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Its not ****. This is real. We have old touch screen that only handles 2 touch points. The new one is unlimited.
i guess the incredible has got a significant advantage over our nexus in terms of hardware...but on the upside, i think the nexus is more developer friendlier (roms, kernel, undervolting, overclocking, modding) n i think this is a major advantage over any htc sense android phones on the market...
how exactly do you know the HD2 packs the same touchscreen as the nexus one?
also i have not seen any definite proof of HD2 not having a clearpad 2000 (ala non X/Y confusing dualtouch)
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Its not ****. This is real. We have old touch screen that only handles 2 touch points. The new one is unlimited.
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10 points.
hmmmm,
I thought read that the HD2 DID have the same clearpad2000 touchpad. I dont have proof so i might be mistaken...But honestly what i believe is that by the time the android market really Catches up to apple and gets out the games that reequire REAL multi-touch, our nexus ones will already be replaced with the nexus 2 or another better phone, which will also include the newer touchpanel...
(Please dont yell at me about the market "catching up" Its only my opinon)
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Its not ****. This is real. We have old touch screen that only handles 2 touch points. The new one is unlimited.
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the nexus one problem is it cannot track the two fingers when they are close togeather but in the video hd2 could do that so nexus one has driver issues , i can use more than two points of contact on playstation emulators and on supermario game using emulator , so what does this all means (hd2 usesbetter screen technology ,also the matrix form on hd2 screen and nexus one screen are the same or it is just driver issue on nexus one and desire)
Either way theyre both android, so more power to these phones...
I still wouldnt trade my Nexus for it though, and to add to what the previous posters have to say about the Nexus. I also think the Nexus still looks sexier!
Who would want to get a N1? Someone who cares about customization?
hoss_n2 said:
and who said that nexus one has the clearpad 2000
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Synaptics did:
http://www.synaptics.com/about/press/press-releases/synaptics-clearpad-on-nexus-one-smartphone
who really cares?
I mean seriously. why are there so many threads knocking on the nexus. I love my nexus and have had no problems with is whatsoever.
I guess some people really have nothing better to do...
Ssantos6981 said:
I mean seriously. why are there so many threads knocking on the nexus. I love my nexus and have had no problems with is whatsoever.
I guess some people really have nothing better to do...
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I second that. For people who give a rat's a$$, it's all about nit-picking and d***-measuring now when comparing N1 with Incredible. Stupid fan boys! If you buy a new phone, be happy with what you have, get to REALLY know it through customizations, learn to use your new hardware to its fullest, and try not to dump it so soon like used condoms! There are just too many spoiled f*****s with short attention spans that when they discover something new like the Incredible (or EVO, or iPhone 4G, or Windows Mobile 7 Phone), they think their newly acquired Nexus is now CRAP! There's still a LOT of mileage on that new N1 you got there. Use it and be happy! You will NEVER be on top of the "obsolescene" game so don't even try it. You may even save some money to get laid with! Remember people! It's just a freakin' phone!
i appreciate endgadget hating on the n1. maybe google will wake up and address the n1's issues.
I also read that even though the incredible has 8gb of internal storage, You still wont be able to store apps there. Dunno the reasoning behind that.
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There are just too many spoiled f*****s with short attention spans that when they discover something new like the Incredible (or EVO, or iPhone 4G, or Windows Mobile 7 Phone), they think their newly acquired Nexus is now CRAP!
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Whats funny is that I currently don't have a smartphone. I have a nice samsung "sgh-t639" (shout out) and my contract is up with t-mobile in 42 days. I have looked at these others phones like the HD2, Desire, iPhone 4G, Incredible (etc) and I still believe that the Nexus One is a better phone and a better buy (180 with 2 year contract). I do believe the EVO is the best phone out there (or coming) but the price tag and the ugly sprint logo on the phone is something I don't want to mess with. Sorry to those of you that actually like logo's on phones, my current one does but its tiny.
Final thought, i'm also in love with the fact at how quickly google is keeping up all the nexus one demands. Fast-enough over the air updates, accessories (car dock, desktop dock) and more. I can actually see myself using the nexus one in 1 1/2 years and still feeling good about myself. I guess i'm more appreciative than others? idk..
p.s. i'm ordering the desktop dock this week from google, can't wait =)
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Its not ****. This is real. We have old touch screen that only handles 2 touch points. The new one is unlimited.
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10 points.
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Nexus One is not locked down. 100 points. Game over.
spankee said:
I also read that even though the incredible has 8gb of internal storage, You still wont be able to store apps there. Dunno the reasoning behind that.
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Because of the archaic FAT32 filesystem needed to connect to windows/mac
spankee said:
I also read that even though the incredible has 8gb of internal storage, You still wont be able to store apps there. Dunno the reasoning behind that.
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It's not really 'internal' storage was we know it. It's basically an 8gb SD card hardwired into the handset.

Schmidt: Nexus One so successful we dont need a Nexus Two

Eric Schmidt's words concerning why the Nexus One was created and how we dont need number Two.
Initially, Google felt that they needed to build a device to help Android along so they worked with HTC to create the Nexus One handset. Schmidt says: “The idea a year and a half ago was to do the Nexus One to try to move the phone platform hardware business forward. It clearly did. It was so successful, we didn't have to do a second one. We would view that as positive but people criticised us heavily for that. I called up the board and said: 'Ok, it worked. Congratulations - we're stopping'. We like that flexibility, we think that flexibility is characteristic of nimbleness at our scale."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...-Schmidt-You-can-trust-us-with-your-data.html
Heh, google is the inverse of apple
...I would like a Nexus Two though?
What about a 1280x720 4" IPS screen, sub-10mm thickness, aluminum/carbon fiber construction, HDMI port, front-facing camera, Tegra 2 SoC, battery life that is amazing, and capacitive touch buttons that are actually silk screened right?
And of course, a unicorn detector
oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
I thought the title was a joke. lol
Wow, damage control ahoy.
arcticreaver said:
i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
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+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
I don't know what happened in SE HQ when they moved onto touchscreen phones and the like. They were ahead of the curve back in the day but maybe their UI let them down?
Samsung are another company who made good hardware but ****ed it up with their clunky software.
I'm not sure how these guys turn the ship around but HTC came from nowhere and are one of the biggest mobile phone manufacturers about now. Surely SE and Samsung can make a cracking phone again and win some of the market share back.
Another issue might be locking down access to root or bastardising Android with a clunky shell. HTC avoided that with a pretty nice UI in Sense.
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Heh, google is the inverse of apple
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That's why I love em.
Knew it and have been saying it all along.
The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
markouk said:
+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
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I don't know about you, but that's what I dislike about SE. Why couldn't they just combine the best walkman and camera in one phone? Instead, they made two phones out of almost the same hardware and charge a high price for each of them...
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oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
Namuna said:
The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
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Amen!
I love the N1, and can't wait for a future device done the same way (without any branding). I seriously hope HTC is the manufacturer. Can't see myself using a phone not made by them.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
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Since android's beginning, there has always been Google's developer phone, the one that Google uses to write the android OS on. First was the g1, now its nexus. It will always be a vanilla android version, not HTC sense or MOTOblur or whatever. Perhaps the next one will be sold thru a carrier, but I think they will ensure it can be purchased unlocked too. We don't know, this is new territory, and The nexus kinda set the standard. So I'm anticipating Google will make sure the next phone can be had without the carrier influence as well.
I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
I'm done with SE, myself. I followed them for a little while with a P990i, then Xperia X1 and was going to get an X10... but glad I got a Nexus One instead.
High-priced pieces of trash, they are. I know the X1 was HTC built and rebranded, but WinMo was so laggy on it and SE slapped an $800 price tag on it. Enough to wake you up.
So there won't be a N1 successor ??
adamwjohnson5 said:
I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
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Sure is nice having Google dictate what goes on the phone and not T-Mobile or AT&T or whoever. I think I'd opt for a slightly weaker phone over one with Sense UI and branding all over it.
I guess I'll be buying whichever dev phone is popular at the time, or making damn sure the phone has Cyanogen et al behind it and that it is vanilla.
No N2?!? Oh come on! It's not like they have to do much. Just make it a 4" screen, swap in a better 3D co-processor, slap a real keyboard on it and call it a day. I'd buy that off-contract any day!
I would agree that the N1 put android on the map, at the centre. They have multiple partners now SPAMMING rediculously good phones for android, the consumers know about it and WANT it, theyve done their task. Let them get back to making the OS orgasmic, and let HTC etc make phones that can vibrate
Like a guy said eariler this is whats called damage control. The N1 didn't start anything with Android OS, it was the Droid that did that. The N1 is a tiny blip on the radar of Android sales. The N1 failed and this is an arrogant look at the N1. The fact of the matter is HTC was planning 1ghz phones regardless of the N1 existance or not, remeber that phone list that was leaked last year of all the phones coming out this year? I love my N1 but lets face it google dropped the ball on it.
1. restrictions on the subdizing
2. restrictions on the type of plan
3. No dummy phones for TMO stores
IMO if they would have stuck the N1 in stores made it easy like Droid, Samsung Vibrant, and EVO, then N1 at the time would have been a mega hit. It was the first phone (that I can remember) with a ghz processor ppl would have went nuts for it because of the speed and its a really sexy looking phone.

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