DosBox - HD2 General

Anyone got a version of dosbox that works on the hd2?

Audio Oblivion said:
Anyone got a version of dosbox that works on the hd2?
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would be possible, not to hard, but we have to make a control scheme for every game apart.
Commander keen, biomenace and c&c on HD2 would be awesome.

Descent 3 using the G sensor would be awesome - lots more potential with dosbox and its like than with console emulators.

xedahh said:
Descent 3 using the G sensor would be awesome - lots more potential with dosbox and its like than with console emulators.
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problem is still that so few good developers are interested in windows mobile...
It would be super...but there's not a big chance we will have a dev that will work on this.
Cant hurt to ask but i doubt they even wanna reply to this thread.

I use dosbox on my pc to run wolfenstein 3d and quake. If your interested in running wolf3d on your HD2 then check THIS out, I havent got it working yet, (not that Ive tried much) but you might, Im not sure if its designed for wvga devices as I can get it running, but it doesnt fill up the whole screen so i keep cliking the manila soft keys
Sorry, went a little off topic there

borgqueenx said:
would be possible, not to hard, but we have to make a control scheme for every game apart.
Commander keen, biomenace and c&c on HD2 would be awesome.
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This sounds good, when we can expect your fingerfriendly version of DosBox ?
Here a Pocket PC port.

AnnaW said:
This sounds good, when we can expect your fingerfriendly version of DosBox ?
Here a Pocket PC port.
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i'd be happy to make control schemes, but someone with photoshop skills should fill the buttons i will make in MS paint
First we need that port to support multitouch screens and cotrol schemes.
If that port works and is not fake, then it would be a piece of cake for the developer to add this.
I cant code that launguage however, but have enough knowledge if things in coding terms are easy or not.
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Wait...can someone try the DOSBox PPC toolbar editor...maby it is for mapping keys to the touchscreen...
But it would still be hard without transparant buttons.
Would be awesome to have a functional dosbox on the HD2. the processor of the device should have enough power to handle all retro games.
if you guys can try commander keen 4 on your HD2 and it works, let me know. i will map the rest of all schemes because im a huge fan of dosbox.
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I do think its for the lower part of the screen for touch controls. someone would have to try the port though.

I do have photoshop and fireworks but don't seem to be able to bring any alpha channels into the tool - I have a test RGBA png file attached in case anyone can figure it out.
Probably more to the point - this PPC port of dosbox does not support wvga, not even sure if it supports vga, maybe we're barking up the wrong tree?

xedahh said:
I do have photoshop and fireworks but don't seem to be able to bring any alpha channels into the tool - I have a test RGBA png file attached in case anyone can figure it out.
Probably more to the point - this PPC port of dosbox does not support wvga, not even sure if it supports vga, maybe we're barking up the wrong tree?
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time to contact the creator i guess. lets hope he's still interested.

who is the lead dev for the dosbox port?
are they still developing?

Audio Oblivion said:
who is the lead dev for the dosbox port?
are they still developing?
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Dont know and i dont know. Pressing the "help me" links gives you a mail adress though. Try to use that.

Well I thought I'd post about my success in getting some dos games running on the Leo. Personally, I'm far more interested in running dos games than console games, so I hope others will join in and share their experiences here also so we can get a bit of momentum going.
First impressions were that it was a bit of a mixed bag. There is not a clear winner in term of dos emulation for the Leo in terms of taking advantage of the screen resolution, cpu and achieving broad game compatibility.
Speaking generally, n0p's port has the most attention on XDA as far as I can see, and perhaps rightly so in terms of the kernel, but I think the praise is overdone where the Leo is concerned as it is a very awkward experience using it on the Leo. Even with the 0.73 version, the lack of WVGA support means that we're stuck with big piece of unused screen realestate and a tiny, horrible keyboard overlay at the bottom that is barely usable. PocketDos has a much better UI in that regard, with the option of using your own pim, although it doesn't run the more sophisticated/demanding games as well as DosBox.
Betrayal at Krondor
I got BAK working, albeit slowly, on N0p's port. The speed is reasonable -- much better than the Symbian DoxBox port I was running on
my E71. Audio in particular is much closer to what it should be. It still judders enough to be annoying instead of easy listening, but it's close enough that I wonder whether smaller memory optimisations or tweaks might make it work properly. The lack of WVGA resolution really hurts in combat though, because hitting the right grid square is pretty hard and makes it a bit of a chore to play. At least when adventuring you can use the stick-to-road button to travel easily about Midkemia. Not sure how to right-click consistently either.
I couldn't get BaK to run on Pocket Dos, although I suspect it might work with different memory settings. From what I recall, it needed a healthy EMS allocation to work back in the day.
Jones in the Fast Lane
With Jones, it's the opposite to BaK. It really struggles on N0p's port but absolutely flies on Pocket Dos. It's actually perfect (although I had sound down so can't comment on audio). The ability to resize the screen and change to landscape makes it a wonderful experience.
N0p's port can run Jones but only barely - the cursor is bugged with the touchscreen so that you can't select anything on the right-hand-side of the screen and it's also nowhere near as fast or smooth as on Pocket Dos. Don't know why it struggles so much as it isn't a very demanding game.
UFO
Given the lack of a WVGAFix for WM6.5, Pocket UFO won't work on the Leo and we're stuck with running UFO on dos. Here, n0p's port is the best. It's fairly playable although, again, surprising slow. Unfortunately Pocket Dos wouldn't load it properly.
Here's a list of games I intend to try in the near future:
Space Quest series
Police Quest series
Heroes Quest series
Dune 2
Syndicate

As far as I can understand there is no properly working dosbox for Leo.
I wish I can play Commander Keen. That's my favorite dos game. I guess we can only hope that someone will port a proper dosbox version to the Leo.

Any updates or so for Dos games to play on the HD2 yet? I know id love this as well. =)

I have been interested in the HD2, but I've been curious about Dos emulation. I don't own any WP devices at the moment.
I realize this thread is a few years old, but are there any updates since this last post?

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PSX Emulator for PPC???

if you dont knnow what im talking about check it here: http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forums/gaming/17936-playstation-emulator.html
i just wanna know if anyone can (or is willing to) stand behind this thing bcuz knowing what a PSX's minimun specs are for a PC ijust dont see how this coould work on a PPC. i'd try it myself but i dont want my device's processor to explode =/
I had this set up on my wizard a while back. it's a pain to set up, take huge amounts of memory, and runs slow, but it DOES work. You have to convert a game to an iso, try to rip out the video sequences to make it smaller compress the audio like in Scumm and then compress it. as I recall the decompression wouldn't work on WM5 so you couldn't compress the iso so even a small game took 100 megs. after a while the novelty of showing off psx on my phone wasn't worth the space. Looks like there's a new version so maybe the WM5 issues have been ironed out. I just may try it again.
joemanb said:
I had this set up on my wizard a while back. it's a pain to set up, take huge amounts of memory, and runs slow, but it DOES work. You have to convert a game to an iso, try to rip out the video sequences to make it smaller compress the audio like in Scumm and then compress it. as I recall the decompression wouldn't work on WM5 so you couldn't compress the iso so even a small game took 100 megs. after a while the novelty of showing off psx on my phone wasn't worth the space. Looks like there's a new version so maybe the WM5 issues have been ironed out. I just may try it again.
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wow. i dunno joe (srry for the rhyme). that seems like a lot to me. i have an SNES emulator running and i thnk my largest game is 2.7 mgs lol. BUT you have sparked my curiousty. i thnk ill be a lil busy tomorrow (yes my life is pretty boring at this point lol)
the original playstation only ran at 33 MHz so it is possible to emulate on a PPC device.
Avatar28 said:
the original playstation only ran at 33 MHz so it is possible to emulate on a PPC device.
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Yea... but im sure there is a big difference between an actual dedicated console and a device running software to emulate the game.
Hell... Nester slows down for me... I actually just found out i have an old version so i take that back.
meh, you must be optimist thinking ,that wizard may do ANYTHING with psx emulation.
keyword:
asus 620bt
current machines are ridiculous comparing to "golden ppc's era" imo.
ridiculous.
Avatar28 said:
the original playstation only ran at 33 MHz so it is possible to emulate on a PPC device.
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what's your age...omg.
sad, that when ppc's were machines for people with imagination, things were better.....
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Hell... Nester slows down for me... I actually just found out i have an old version so i take that back.
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Instead of PocketNester, take a look at Smartgear. See my related reviews in the General forum.
thunda_chunky said:
i'd try it myself but i dont want my device's processor to explode =/
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You can't deliver ANY kind of damage to your CPU, not even if you massively overclock it.
Well, I really doubt this will work without overclocking your MDA until it burns out so I think I'll let you all try first lol
Heres some videos on youtube of people PPC's with it working, looks too good to be true!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FPSECE&search=Search
Sounds like you just need FPSECE
http://www.fpsece.net/download.htm
And the latest GAPI which i believe is this one below
http://www.wincesoft.de/html/gapi_for_hpc_s.html

Some real Games for Xperia pls? solitaire is antique

hi guys,
honestly speaking..the games preloaded on xperia make me feel like i am in year 2002 when O2 Xda was around.
in todays world when PC has high def games.. mobile phones like N95 or N82 having 3D games..why cant Xperia have some decent games which can cater to Gaming enthusiasts.
Solitaire, bubble breaker, bejeweled also..these games are very lame for a Gamer like me..even during year 1998 i used to avoid them and play Dave or Wolf 3D..what i like are 3D car racing games or 2D games which are like RPG.
Some type of games i would love to play on Xperia:
Racing games, Sports (Tennis), shooter..or any other BUT the default games.
the optical joystick has a huge huge potential as an input interface for such games.
but are there any games on Xperia?
Buh, don't bother searching for games for at least another six months. None of the cool apps (Genesis/SNES/GBA Emulators, Open Source Games, DosBox, ScummVM) support WQVGA and WVGA resolutions, which is pretty frustrating since my older phones did support most of them but lacked the inputs and processing power of the Xperia.
I hope some developers see the light and will support widescreen resolutions in the near future.
Oh, and you could try WVGA-Fix, it wil blank 1/3 of the X1's screen, giving you a VGA resolution which is better supported. But IMO that is not the 'right' solution.
So far, I found only the two preinstalled Astraware Games (strange, they don't seem to offer them on their site for other WVGA devices like the Touch HD), Quartz2, and Spore Elements to really support the WVGA resolution.
Most other games only use the VGA part, leaving a part of the screen either black or with the previous contents. Only a few games don't run at all or not usable, like most of pdaMill's games (they're currently looking for a solution to that...).
Mort said:
So far, I found only the two preinstalled Astraware Games (strange, they don't seem to offer them on their site for other WVGA devices like the Touch HD), Quartz2, and Spore Elements to really support the WVGA resolution.
Most other games only use the VGA part, leaving a part of the screen either black or with the previous contents. Only a few games don't run at all or not usable, like most of pdaMill's games (they're currently looking for a solution to that...).
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Woo, I just spot the developer of Mort series tools got an X1 too
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Woo, I just spot the developer of Mort series tools got an X1 too
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I'd noticed that too
I just found this list of wvga games
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462217
BTW is there a way to get out of a game if it is not in full screen and I get stuck? Other than reset by taking off the cover? My fingernails are all gone now from resets and so I'm hoping there is an easier way since the hardware buttons don't have their normal functions while in a game. THANKS!
I'm running a list of games that i have installed and running on my Xperia without problems. There are around 12 Java games that support WVGA and a few native WM games as well... along with those that run in VGA but in full-screen (with part of hte screen black).
To check out the list: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2008/12/gaming-on-xperia-part-1.html
I'll be posting part 2 tonight with more games that i found to work on Xperia... only those in WVGA.
also... you guys might wanna try out ScummVM. Not in full WVGA (i.e. runs in VGA) but awesome games compatibility!
tomb raider
actually tomb raider works very well on the x1, ok its not wvga, but its still quite good, and its free...give it a roll...
ruffnexx_uk said:
actually tomb raider works very well on the x1, ok its not wvga, but its still quite good, and its free...give it a roll...
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Tried it already... it does work great, but didn't it show the previous window outside its resolution? (i.e. instead of showing a black screen in the remaining area, it shows the previous screen like file explorer or today screen there)
Tomb Raider worked brilliant on the Wizard so it hardly shows off the X1.
Sadly the "power" of the X1 is not exactly showing itself off when it comes to games. All the emulators suck IMO due to a lack of adequate (or possibly enabled at all?) graphics acceleration.
I mean come on, you should be able to at LEAST emulate a Game Gear at full speed/framerate with full sound. A 486 DX2/66 could do that for crying out loud. If the X1 was THAT slow it wouldn't be able to support video like it does, even if that support still sucks too.
I love my X1, but when it comes to games/emulators or video playback it downright sucks. People claiming it "plays fine" because they get 14fps are insane, fine is full framerate, pathetic is anything lower.
^ Welcome to HTC's latest releases. Though tbh the problem lies with Qualcomm if you've followed the whole saga from the Kaiser's time. There are efforts to develop drivers in this Blackstone thread as the chipsets on HTC Diamond/Raphael/Blackstone/Kovsky are all very similar. Please, please contribute here if you are a developer or have any background in such things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
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Tomb Raider worked brilliant on the Wizard so it hardly shows off the X1.
Sadly the "power" of the X1 is not exactly showing itself off when it comes to games. All the emulators suck IMO due to a lack of adequate (or possibly enabled at all?) graphics acceleration.
I mean come on, you should be able to at LEAST emulate a Game Gear at full speed/framerate with full sound. A 486 DX2/66 could do that for crying out loud. If the X1 was THAT slow it wouldn't be able to support video like it does, even if that support still sucks too.
I love my X1, but when it comes to games/emulators or video playback it downright sucks. People claiming it "plays fine" because they get 14fps are insane, fine is full framerate, pathetic is anything lower.
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Though i have been unable to get any Sega or Nintendo emulator to work god... but ScummVM games are working without any glitch (but then my iPhone played those great too)... and then there are other games too that are great at playback and quality.
Tomb Raider probably doesn't speak well for the device, but if you try other games such as Syberia - they work simply awsome! No lag during videos in the game and slowdowns, etc.
I do however agree that the true potential of gaming on Xperia is yet to be discovered.
Yeah I had suspected that was the case when GLBenchmark refuses to run any 3D benchmarks for me, plus the poor results from the people who did get it to work.
Its one of those unfortunate things I only found out about AFTER I bought my X1 and was left wondering if it was true or not, because nobody seems to mention it in the X1 forum.
However, I bought my X1 as a phone, calendar/alarm and web browser when out and about. To be fair, it does all those things pretty well and even plays music at very good quality so I no longer have to take my MP3 player around with me. I was also pleased at the camera quality considering it had already been said its below-par for a Sony Ericcson phone. It works better in low light than my Canon S3 IS so long as I can keep it steady long enough for the slow software to do its stuff.
Keeping on subject though, why do they keep insisting on putting crap digital pads on phones/PDAs? I would be more inclined to play games on it if it had a DS style D-Pad or something. These weird shaped ones just don't work especially as there are never buttons in a good enough place either. I couldn't be bothered playing Tomb Raider on my Wizard because the buttons were too uncomfortable/unreliable to avoid dying.
The irony is Nokia got it right, they were just a little too early and a little too clunky to gain the popularity they needed. But the X1 like many others totally could have delivered, but then of course Sony don't want to be competing with the PSP so limiting the controls and 3D support could very well be deliberate.
ScummVM should be brilliant if supporting the resolution. I have tried it on various portables and never found it worked very well, not always because of slowdown but because there was never enough pixels on the screen to fit everything you need. In general ScummVM games do not push the graphics hard so the X1 should indeed be fine. Its just annoying that I, like many others, read that the X1 had 3D acceleration so were excited at this prospect. Only to be disappointed to find its locked down.
Ah well, Android and Linux in general should change everything, eventually. It puts the power back in the end-users hands where it belongs so that if they fail to deliver drivers some clever open-source hackers will figure it out. Its just a bit pathetic that ATI/AMD are so pro open-source on PC but we get locked out on mobiles presumably because Qualcomm are greedy SOBs.
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Yeah I had suspected that was the case when GLBenchmark refuses to run any 3D benchmarks for me, plus the poor results from the people who did get it to work.
Its one of those unfortunate things I only found out about AFTER I bought my X1 and was left wondering if it was true or not, because nobody seems to mention it in the X1 forum.
However, I bought my X1 as a phone, calendar/alarm and web browser when out and about. To be fair, it does all those things pretty well and even plays music at very good quality so I no longer have to take my MP3 player around with me. I was also pleased at the camera quality considering it had already been said its below-par for a Sony Ericcson phone. It works better in low light than my Canon S3 IS so long as I can keep it steady long enough for the slow software to do its stuff.
Keeping on subject though, why do they keep insisting on putting crap digital pads on phones/PDAs? I would be more inclined to play games on it if it had a DS style D-Pad or something. These weird shaped ones just don't work especially as there are never buttons in a good enough place either. I couldn't be bothered playing Tomb Raider on my Wizard because the buttons were too uncomfortable/unreliable to avoid dying.
The irony is Nokia got it right, they were just a little too early and a little too clunky to gain the popularity they needed. But the X1 like many others totally could have delivered, but then of course Sony don't want to be competing with the PSP so limiting the controls and 3D support could very well be deliberate.
ScummVM should be brilliant if supporting the resolution. I have tried it on various portables and never found it worked very well, not always because of slowdown but because there was never enough pixels on the screen to fit everything you need. In general ScummVM games do not push the graphics hard so the X1 should indeed be fine. Its just annoying that I, like many others, read that the X1 had 3D acceleration so were excited at this prospect. Only to be disappointed to find its locked down.
Ah well, Android and Linux in general should change everything, eventually. It puts the power back in the end-users hands where it belongs so that if they fail to deliver drivers some clever open-source hackers will figure it out. Its just a bit pathetic that ATI/AMD are so pro open-source on PC but we get locked out on mobiles presumably because Qualcomm are greedy SOBs.
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Hmmm... Xperia has a good 3d chip + hardware acceleration, but alas! few games realize the potential yet. Hopefully we'll see more soon.
But is anyone even using the modified 3D accelerated driver on their X1? Is it stable if they are?
I would expect to find it mentioned in the performance thread if it was working.
Really pathetic...
my W800i had tennis, 3D racing, and black hawk down like games and all freely available.
but for Xperia..none of those kinda games
Where can I find Tomb raider?
Is there a nice Columns clone that works with the X1s resolution?
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Really pathetic...
my W800i had tennis, 3D racing, and black hawk down like games and all freely available.
but for Xperia..none of those kinda games
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Ummm... well don't know about Tennis, but you have GT Racing for Xperia and Snow Rally City Stage 1.1.
Will post info on more games on my blog later tonight.

Games on the HD2

A key feature that I'm hoping the HD2 does well is emulation. Running morphgear on my Touch HD worked alright. You couldn't really get audio to sync or work right and framerate wasn't that great either. Now with the HD2 you got multitouch support and better hardware, so it should be an awesome experience. Has anybody tried running any emulation apps on the HD2 yet?
Also the TG01 plays PSX games flawlessly check out these links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9qAB7ADB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
Anybody test this out on the HD2?
I dream of being able to play PSP games on the HD2
FpSECE should run like a charm on this monster (also without any bluetooth gamepad due the enourmous screen size). I think there are going to be alot of capacitive-scree-like-games for windows mobile now also. Pfff can.t wait to get my hands on this baby )
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FpSECE should run like a charm on this monster (also without any bluetooth gamepad due the enourmous screen size). I think there are going to be alot of capacitive-scree-like-games for windows mobile now also. Pfff can.t wait to get my hands on this baby )
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If you think that most of developers are going to make capacitive-like-games for windows mobile when only one device support it instead of putting their efforts on games for the iphone and android, you are going crazy.
^^ Second that! Don't keep your hopes up for any Multitouch based games for atleast another year.
Windows Mobile 7 might change that. But till then, its no use dreaming
I remember when xtract (or whatever it was called was released), this was such a fantastic game and showed what could be possible on the WM platform.
sadly, the popularity of the iphone means that most developers are working on apps for that phone instead. The main reason behind this is that every developer knows almost exactly what he will have to work with on an iphone. With WM there are too many variations of screen resolution to consider, memory restrictions etc
in addition, the relatively high cost of apps on WM (compared to the thousands of 0.59p for iphone)means that they don't sell quite so many and the demand isn't there.
it's sad, but this is perhaps the reason that WM is dying as a platform.
I saw an article the other day that said that itunes had hit the 100,000 mark for apps. I think that's an increase of about 25,000 apps in a single year. WM cannot even get close to that figure..
Well, out of those 100,000 apps 99,900 are useless fart apps and such, not the kind of games we are talking about here. App Store allows you to sell whatever you want and since there's no return policy you can have people paying for your app, no matter if it is good or not.
This is not to say there are no great games for the iPhone of course! Yet the mere number of apps there isn't really an indicator of quality.
you're right ( I question your accuracy though )
but the point is, that people are spending time creating 'useless' apps for the iphone....very few people are creating anything for WM
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it's sad, but this is perhaps the reason that WM is dying as a platform.
I saw an article the other day that said that itunes had hit the 100,000 mark for apps. I think that's an increase of about 25,000 apps in a single year. WM cannot even get close to that figure..
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I think we do need to make some difference between a big number, and quality programs... How many programs are not just total useless "fart" and other idiotic crap programs.
Its easy to claim that they have 100.000 programs, when most are close to useless.
SnooPPP:
You forgot to post a more recent one. This one showes the touchscreen in action on the TG01, with the overlay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
Its actually kinda playable just using a Single Touch Resistive screen.
A quick look at the forum of the FpseCE emulator shows that people are interested in the HD2.
People here question if its useful for developers to create games for a single platform. But, the specs for WM7 are know. They know that every device in the future will have at minimum, the same specs as the HTC HD2, to be compatible with the WM7 OS. So, for many developers the HTC HD2 will probable be a nice development / testing platform for the future.
Also, when looking at the PSX emulator, that now on a Snapdragon can play about every PSX game... This is a game library of? How many hundred games? Including hits like FF7, etc ...
What about the N64 emulator that they are porting for the openPandora project, on a TI OMAP 3430? When the source is released and recompiled for WM, you can expect to also that game library...
This is what im really excited about, FpSECE on the HD2 will be amazing, it just needs either multitouch support or we need a controller we can use with the HD2.
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but the point is, that people are spending time creating 'useless' apps for the iphone....very few people are creating anything for WM
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Well, why wouldn't they spend time? If you put a fart app in App Store, chances are, somebody will pay for it by mistake, and won't be able to claim money back.
loomx said:
This is what im really excited about, FpSECE on the HD2 will be amazing, it just needs either multitouch support or we need a controller we can use with the HD2.
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In fpsece 0.1 there are overlays so no need for a controller(and it supports multitouch if I recall correctly).
Meh, regarding an entertainment perspective, I never really understood why games should be on phones. Sure the usual, patience or bubble breaker is nice, but if you really want to play games, I suggest getting an xbox360 or ps3, it's what I use mine for anyway.
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Meh, regarding an entertainment perspective, I never really understood why games should be on phones. Sure the usual, patience or bubble breaker is nice, but if you really want to play games, I suggest getting an xbox360 or ps3, it's what I use mine for anyway.
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You don't travel much, do you?
PSP then?
KrewCial said:
PSP then?
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Carrying around two devices is just too inconvenient.
Could the HD2 even handle PSP Game's graphics??
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Carrying around two devices is just too inconvenient.
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Meh, when I travel, I don't mind carrying another device with me. Playing games on your phone only drains the battery even more, leaving less juice to make business calls.
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Meh, when I travel, I don't mind carrying another device with me.
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That's a bit like arguing that there's no point in putting a camera into a phone because, when you travel, you don't mind taking a camera with you. That may be true as far as it goes; but having a camera in your phone becomes useful in situations where you didn't know in advance that you were going to need a camera and then suddenly realise that you do - conveniently, you just happen to have one with you because it's built into a device that you automatically carry with you at all times. The same applies to gaming on a phone: it's useful in situations where you didn't know in advance that you were going to want a gaming device.
You also have to ask: even if you are willing to pack a separate portable console, are you willing to pack a portable games console, a phone, an MP3 player, a mobile web browsing device, a mobile email terminal, a dedicated satnav device, and a portable video player? That's quite a lot to fit in your trouser pockets. There's a lot to be said for combining multiple devices into the same box.
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are you willing to pack a portable games console, a phone, an MP3 player, a mobile web browsing device, a mobile email terminal, a dedicated satnav device, and a portable video player? That's quite a lot to fit in your trouser pockets.
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You forgot to mention all the chargers too
It's not like chargers take that much space... it's just one small bag. Besides, nowadays there are these universal extensions and what not if I'm correct if you really mind taking multiple chargers with you. Furthermore, if you have one device which you use for everything, you're gonna need to charge it more often, while this is not the case when using multiple devices, just to make clear that having an all-in-one device is not as heavenly as it might seem (or you're gonna have to take ALL those multiple batteries with you ).
Also, comparing taking a picture and gaming with and on a phone is not entirely just, because when one wants to game, he/she has to sit down and put time into gaming, while taking a snapshot is almost instant. What I'm trying to say is that when someone is playing a full blown 3D game (which is what is actually discussed here instead of patience, minesweeper or whatever), that person wants to put in time to focus on the game. In this case it's much better to use a dedicated device and not some emulator on a phone to play ps1 games while draining your battery life. And yes, if someone wants to take beautiful high resolution pictures, that person will take a quality camera with him/her.
Eventually it all comes down to preference I guess...

Capacitive hell

I recently bought a HD2 and I think I have made a great mistake. I fell for the "capacitive screen" hype and bought this device. I found I cannot click the links on a website without zooming in. I cannot play Warfare Incorporated. I cannot use VNC. This is very annoying, coming from a resistive device. The device is practically useless to me know. I know of two capacitive styluses : the Dagi and the Pogo. Neither of them work properly with VNC and small icons on Opera without zooming in. What can I do ?
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I recently bought a HD2 and I think I have made a great mistake. I fell for the "capacitive screen" hype and bought this device. I found I cannot click the links on a website without zooming in. I cannot play Warfare Incorporated. I cannot use VNC. This is very annoying, coming from a resistive device. The device is practically useless to me know. I know of two capacitive styluses : the Dagi and the Pogo. Neither of them work properly with VNC and small icons on Opera without zooming in. What can I do ?
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Check out point 35
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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romac said:
Check out point 35
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Please try search before posting
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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Then I suggest you return the HD2 and go for a TP2 or HD. If these things are important to you, a capacitive screen will not please you.
Unfortunately I cannot return it now. I love the fact that it can play FPSECE perfectly and I love how you don't have to press hard on the display but IMHO the benefits are smaller than the bad things. I should have probably gone with the N900, even if it is really slow and old-tech compared to the HD2. Any other options ?
once bought, either u learn to love it or hate it
lift still goes on
dun whin about it
If not happy, just switch to other phone that is resistive lcd
complaint and complaint are useless, HTC will not change HD2 to resistive lcd if u complaint
It also wont just change to resistive lcd overnite if u complaint hard enough
There is not cannot return now....
u sell it away and get your other phone
just a matter of do you want or not.
Juz 2cent thot, esp when i see ppl whin and whin whereby you always have a choice
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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I use Mocha VNC on mine and it works well considering the physical size of the screen you are working in comparison to the native resolution of the host PC/server. I used to use on an Xda Orbit II, but the HD2 is a quantum leap above that.
As for the games not being compatible, have you thought about taking your whiny complaints to the software houses who don't write their software to be compatible with the current screen resolutions? Better still, why not get a dedicated games console or dare I say, an iPad?
So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
lude219 said:
So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
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This.
Also, what's the motivation to use VNC over RDP?
lude219 said:
So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
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Yes he is, but I was too polite to point out the bleeding obvious.
alunalub said:
Unfortunately I cannot return it now. I love the fact that it can play FPSECE perfectly and I love how you don't have to press hard on the display but IMHO the benefits are smaller than the bad things. I should have probably gone with the N900, even if it is really slow and old-tech compared to the HD2. Any other options ?
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I think what yu need is a PS-3.. LOL.. not a phone..
I had samsung i900 omnia previously and it has resistive touch after i bought HD2 even with bigger screen (samsung had 3.2inch) i couldn't work with the phone and i had the same problem i can't click on website links and etc.
but now i can do it very easily it is just matter of time trust me then you will love it and you won't work with resistive
P.S now i have problems working with resistive tocuh screen as i try to click things by finger and not nail
prateekgujral said:
I think what yu need is a PS-3.. LOL.. not a phone..
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lol! !
Let's not be that harsh. The OP was just asking for help.
Never played anything more than Teeter on my HD2, so can't be of much help wrt games, except to say that I'm sure you'll have no problems finding an existing HD owner on these forums who would be more than eager to swop with you for your HD2 at no extra cost!
Very funny people. Calling me "*** stupid" when I just asked for your opinions. Way to go !
alunalub said:
Very funny people. Calling me "***stupid" when I just asked for your opinions. Way to go !
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OK, only one person called you stupid so don't assume everybody thinks you as that... Is just not so many people buy a 600 euro phone to play games on it... My advice on your problem is to be a bit patient and you will get use it... like everybody else did... I had no problems when i changed over from my hd, adjusting to the capacitive and i did play a few games as well... Mind you the games you mentioned are not meant to be played (imho) on a non-stylus screen, thus a resistive one.. I am sure soon you can get your hands on yet more games
see... as someone pointed out, You'll more likely get used to it. I was bit worried about lack of precision, but now after almost two months of use I wouldn't swap it for anything else. I don't play games much, but I've donated for fpsece and if I am bored away from home I play Gran Turismo 2 and Final Fantasy VII with full speed and multitouch. also as an owner of pc heroes of might and magic 2 gold I've installed on my card emulated version of it and it just works great. movies are being played without any reencoding (w/o ac3... still waiting for it coreplayer... ) and web browsing with opera is so damn good, that I doubt if firefox on n900 is much better (except for the flash ofcourse).
You made a right decision, just type more on hd2 and get 1.66 rom. things are going to improve for You. trust me.
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Well, why not buy a 600 euro phone to play games ? If I just wanted a simple phone I would have bought a cheap-a$$ Nokia for 20 pounds on eBay. I bought it to use it as a PSP, ebook reader, PMP, video player, Internet device etc.
alunalub said:
Well, why not buy a 600 euro phone to play games ? If I just wanted a simple phone I would have bought a cheap-a$$ Nokia for 20 pounds on eBay. I bought it to use it as a PSP, ebook reader, PMP, video player, Internet device etc.
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Alunalub.. no offense intended.. you would notice that a lot of us have been here for long and quite active in helping other members..
May I suggest for you to flash a nice cooked ROM.. (could recommend the Xanytech Evolution) and ofcourse the BSB tweaks to ride off problems like clicking of links etc..
Why dont you take a few mins and point of the problems/concerns you have and i can assure you that we will all try and help you out so that you can enjoy your phone
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Alunalub.. no offense intended.. you would notice that a lot of us have been here for long and quite active in helping other members..
May I suggest for you to flash a nice cooked ROM.. (could recommend the Xanytech Evolution) and ofcourse the BSB tweaks to ride off problems like clicking of links etc..
Why dont you take a few mins and point of the problems/concerns you have and i can assure you that we will all try and help you out so that you can enjoy your phone
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Very helpful response, thanks ! I think though that I will sell the HD2 and get a Viliv S5, a full 1.3 GHz x86 CPU that can run full Linux, Winblows etc. and 1 GB RAM for same price as this gimmick. Wish me luck to get a good deal !

FpseCE and the HD2...

i have made the decision to uninstall FpseCE
i love playing my old PSX games on my HD2, after reading the readme and following its instructions to the letter, it worked first time
the app i have no gripe with, yes it could be better but the developers have lives away from their PC's and cant dedicate all their time to satisfying my gaming fix.
On the HD2 with its MAHOOOSIVE screen, portable gaming has been a wonderful experience... Granturismo2, resi evil 2 and 3, tekken etc etc
*But*
1/ i am getting nothing done.
2/ the house is falling apart.
3/ the car has been sat on the drive for six months purely because it has a flat tyre.
4/ i keep missing my stops on buses and trains.
5/ i've fallen behind at work.
6/ the dog keeps coming to me with its bowl in its mouth like it wants something...id give it more attention if i could just beat this level!
7/ more importantly i'm single again...so will have to take up the chore of finding another female of our species in which to grow my brood.
on the plus side...
1/ i finally got 100% completion in GT2
erm, thats about it really...
so FpseCE is going, i must find something to feed my gaming fix in the mean time (like nicorette patches for smokers)
any ideas?
Wow, I've never finished GT2 on the PSX.. you got me interested!
its not easy! the licenses and endurance events are impossible without an external controller!
at least, they were for me and my clumsy hands lol
id just got back into resi-evil 2 im thinking i should at least finish that before uninstalling...
Hi there, are u using the supporters version? to enable multi-touch on our beloved HD2s? im considering getting the supporters version as well. though i wont be playing anything too time consuming. maybe metal slug or some fighting games. lol. does the multi-touch work well? do the controls work well? i know on the normal version its really hard to activate the buttons n all. lol
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Hi there, are u using the supporters version? to enable multi-touch on our beloved HD2s? im considering getting the supporters version as well. though i wont be playing anything too time consuming. maybe metal slug or some fighting games. lol. does the multi-touch work well? do the controls work well? i know on the normal version its really hard to activate the buttons n all. lol
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if you have an hd2 it is totally worth donating. its not much to ask for the years of hard work put into this emulator and the features you will have with the supporter version are a must have on HD2.
Yep, I love FpseCE. It's awesome, I basically got the HD2 for it. I find the controls ok, but I think I would struggle with fast paced games.
For Gran Truismo 2, the OP is right, getting gold in all the liscenses with the onscreen buttons would be impossible, but they are suitable for most races.
I play a lot of FF7, 8 and 9 as well, and perfect timing for the controls are not a big deal. This is where it comes into it's own.
I picked up the supporter version straight away, 5eur is nothing for what you are getting. I found a few games dont work, Metal Gear Solid is one, which is a pain but I think the developer is working on getting it up. Theme hospital is another that doesn't work that great.
On a side note, the developer seems to favour the HD2s, a lot of his time seems to be specifically developing for our device as it is so awesome and popular.
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Yep, I love FpseCE. It's awesome, I basically got the HD2 for it. I find the controls ok, but I think I would struggle with fast paced games.
For Gran Truismo 2, the OP is right, getting gold in all the liscenses with the onscreen buttons would be impossible, but they are suitable for most races.
I play a lot of FF7, 8 and 9 as well, and perfect timing for the controls are not a big deal. This is where it comes into it's own.
I picked up the supporter version straight away, 5eur is nothing for what you are getting. I found a few games dont work, Metal Gear Solid is one, which is a pain but I think the developer is working on getting it up. Theme hospital is another that doesn't work that great.
On a side note, the developer seems to favour the HD2s, a lot of his time seems to be specifically developing for our device as it is so awesome and popular.
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Is there a thread dedicated to FpseCE? I am a bit special when it comes to things like this and would like a littles step by step guide on whats required, ive got as far as installing it .
djchubbs said:
Is there a thread dedicated to FpseCE? I am a bit special when it comes to things like this and would like a littles step by step guide on whats required, ive got as far as installing it .
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It's not too bad to do mate. Any help required, the FPSECE forums will help you out. There is a specific section for the HD2 and it's one of the most active sections of the website. The community is pretty helpful in general.
there is a dedicated thread for HD2 on there forum check it out no link cause im on me phone on the bus, but therw is a guy on that yhread he is awesome answers for any question.
cheers guys, will check it out, am i right in thinking the general concept is similar to mounting an ISO image using something like daemon tools on a PC?
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cheers guys, will check it out, am i right in thinking the general concept is similar to mounting an ISO image using something like daemon tools on a PC?
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Yeah kindof, except it runs an emulator to actually read the data. The developer provides another tool called pocket ISO I think. This compresses the ISO's obtained from PSX disks to a smaller size and actually increases performance. Not sure of the math behind it, maybe stores the data in a way that FpseCE can access it better. Either way, smaller ISO files and more FPS. I am by no means an expert but if you get stuck, you could fire me a quick PM and I'll see what I can do.
Essentially you install the free version, install the supporter version, download the "HD2 pack" available from the forum under the HD2 section of the forum (sorry, no link, the site is banned at my work)
Pop the ISOs on you're memory card, and fire it up. Easy as that really, that's all I had to do.
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Yeah kindof, except it runs an emulator to actually read the data. The developer provides another tool called pocket ISO I think. This compresses the ISO's obtained from PSX disks to a smaller size and actually increases performance. Not sure of the math behind it, maybe stores the data in a way that FpseCE can access it better. Either way, smaller ISO files and more FPS. I am by no means an expert but if you get stuck, you could fire me a quick PM and I'll see what I can do.
Essentially you install the free version, install the supporter version, download the "HD2 pack" available from the forum under the HD2 section of the forum (sorry, no link, the site is banned at my work)
Pop the ISOs on you're memory card, and fire it up. Easy as that really, that's all I had to do.
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thanks a lot, seems pretty much how i thought, i'll give it a go later when im home from work.

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