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I was just wondering, with so much software on the internet, what is the best free software people use? I have been doing so much customizing and tweaking I just wonder what more is out there.
I use:
amAze GPS
Google Maps
HTC Home Customizer
Live Search
My Mobilier
Skyfire
youtubeplay
GPS Today
Pocket SNES
Unfortunately some of the best ones are not free:
TomTom7
PocketInformant
GeoScout
SBP Mobile Shell
Sprite Backup
Sprite Terminator
Code Wallet Pro
Free ones that I have are:
Google Maps
Microsoft Live search
HHC Home customizer
Opera Mini Browser
PHM RegEdit
Resco File Explorer
TCPMP
Palringo
Cool, it seems most people use the same programs but your right some of the better ones are not free...
Flashlight is pretty useful at times
KeePassPPC for managing passwords. There are also versions for Windows, Mac and Linux, which is handy.
Free:
Calendar+
Htc Plus!
S2U2
S2V
S2P
Opera Mini
Nilisco Flashlight
iContac Burt Edition
Messenger
My Mobiler
PHM Regedit
sinPocketStopWatch
Kevtris 2
Pocket UNO
not free:
SPB Bubbles
Astraware Bejeweled 2
Bluezard
Garmin Mobile XT
SK Tools
ThumbCal
and some ohters that I don't have installed right now...
* Sorry this is so long... but recently I sent an email with apps & links to some of my friends who also have HTC phones, so I figure it's just easier to simply paste the text heree. *
Hello HTC friends!
I'm sending this email to some of you who I know have HTC PDAs, or may be getting one at some point. Over the few months that I've had my phone, I've received a few tips on good applications from some people, and have discovered several myself. So I thought it might be a good thing to send out an email to my friends that summarizes some my favorites, in the interest of sharing knowledge & experience for those who might find something you're looking for (or didn't even know you were looking for!).
First of all, it should be noted that I've found several of these tools / applications / customizations at a website called xda-developers.com. It's a site dedicated so HTC -branded phones *specifically*. I mostly use it by searching their forums for answers to questions, and looking for applications or basic tweaks:
http://www.xda-developers.com
Another good site for Windows Mobile devices is ppcgeeks.com:
http://www.ppcgeeks.com
I recently upgraded my phone to Windows Mobile 6.1 with the latest ROM update from HTC & Sprint, so a lot of these are still fresh in my head. It is also worth noting that all of the apps listed here are free; that is usually a criteria of mine when searching for new software especially for my phone.
nueLED: Turn on / turn off / redirect LED lights on your phone
This was one of the first little apps I installed. After I got my phone I noticed that it was always blinking to let me know it was "alive," and since I have bluetooth turned on all the time that light was blinking incessantly as well. I installed nueLED, configured it to disable the service LED and bluetooth LED, and now if my phone is blinking at me I know it's because it's *actually* trying to tell me something (missed call, voice mail, etc.).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=189618#post189618
Opera Mini web browser
It couldn't have been more than 2 days of using Pocket Internet Explorer before I got fed up with it and started looking for a new browser. Maybe I was spoiled by playing with my friend's iPhone, because the web browser absolutely blows away any browser I've seen for Windows Mobile. But Opera Mini is at least a step in the right direction, until someone develops something closer to the iPhone's Safari browser. I have high hopes for Firefox's version of a mobile browser, but that won't be out for a while. And although Opera Mini runs as a Java app,let I've found out how to create a shortcut for it (as well as Gmail's Java applet) so that you don't have to go through the annoying Java menus.
http://www.operamini.com/
* There's also "Opera Mobile," although I haven't tried it yet. They have a beta (currently v9.51) that is free, although I think their non-beta releases (currently v8.65) are only free for a 30-day trial. If anyone has had any experience with these, please share the knowledge!
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
Google Maps
This has got to be one of the coolest apps for mobile devices; a must-have. Good interface, relatively fast, great searching, and it's easy to check traffic at a glance. It also has the ability to interact with the GPS receiver if your device has one, and can give you driving directions. But it's not the best for turn-by-turn directions as you navigate if you're trying to use it with the GPS. And also be aware that any software which accesses your GPS will suck on the battery pretty good when it's turned on, which is why I only turn on the "Use GPS" feature of Google Maps sparingly.
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/maps/
Microsoft Live Search
Google Maps pretty much has the upper hand in most aspects: Map GUI, usability, searching, etc. However, one area Live Search seems to have Google Maps beat is turn-by-turn directions. While it doesn't include audio guidance (I haven't found a free app that does), it integrates pretty well with the GPS and will even prompt you if you go off course. Not bad for freeware. The same caveat applies for battery usage if you turn on the GPS locator.
http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
iContact: A more "finger-friendly" contacts manager
A better UI for interacting with the contacts in your address book. Originally started a while back by someone named "larna", and version 0.6 (April 2008) was good. Then after that developer didn't have any more time to devote to it, "supbro" took over and made it way better (July 2008). Now "burt" has made his "Burt Edition 6.2" (August 2008) and made some additional improvements, and now I think it's a great app. I would have recommended it even with larna's versions, but definitely now with supbro and burt's new features. It's light weight, responsive, and highly customizable. I can tell you how to set it as the default Contacts viewer, too.
http://burt.vndv.com/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=1
OggSync: Over-the-air sync with Google Calendar
This is a nice little app which synchronizes the Pocket Outlook calendar built into your device with your Google Calendar, via the internet connection on you phone. I looked at a few other solutions, and went this one because it is free, accurate, and doesn't use a 3rd-party server as a go-between. The free version is good. They also have a paid version (yearly subscription) which includes a few additional features including scheduled syncs and multiple Google calendars. The scheduled sync would be nice, and multiple calendars maybe (maps each Google Calendar to a category) -- but not enough for me to pay for it. If you don't use Google Calendar then OggSunc is probably useless; but if you do, this app is a big winner.
http://oggsync.com/
Total Commander: A more feature-rich file explorer
Although the interface looks a little bit "old school", I use this app more than I thought I would. More options when browsing & interacting with files (geez, you can even see the actual file extension for once!), plus you get a registry editor and the ability to interact with LAN file shares (if you're connected to a network via WiFi) without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
PPC PIM Backup: Backup personal data
This is an easy way to back up contacts, call logs, calendar entries, tasks, messages, and other files, etc. to your storage card. It's pretty light weight -- in fact there's no installation process, you just run the .exe and you're off and running. There is an optional scheduling mechanism for automatic backups; but I prefer to just use the manual backup periodically. It came in handy after flashing the latest ROM update last week.
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player)
This is a nice alternative to Windows Media player, that actually plays formats beyond WMV. Fullscreen works great, and it is pretty customizable. Link to WM 6.1-compatible version below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
There are also a codecs to play WMV files:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/local_links.php?linkid=61
and other audio formats including AC3, FLAC, Vorbis, etc.
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
Flash Video Bundle: A way to play YouTube (and other) Flash videos
My friend Scott told me about this one. It is a cab installation that includes FLV codecs for TCPMP as well as a plugin for Pocket IE that allows you to save Flash videos from the youtube.com website (the non-mobile version).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FlashVideoBundle
YouTubePlay: Another way to save and play YouTube videos
My friend Mike showed me this other alternative. Not only will it play Flash videos like the TCPMP plugin, but it serves as a front-end for searching & saving YouTube videos. The player is good (fullscreen works nicely like TCPMP), and it seems to be a better alternative for finding YouTube videos than using a web browser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227
SPB Full Screen Keyboard
I haven't tried this because the device I use (HTC Titan / Sprint Mogul) has a slide-out keyboard. But for devices that don't have a hardware keyboard, I've seen other software keyboards that are supposedly better than the ones that come standard on the ROM. One that is mentioned often is SPB Full Screen Keyboard. They have a free download, although I don't know if it's a limited functionality version or a limited time trial of the one for purchase.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
Change # of vertical lines on new SMS reply screen
Windows Mobile v6.1 comes with a new "threaded" view for text messages, but the default space for replying to messages on my phone was only 2 lines. You can increase this if you want by simply editing the the thread_sms.htm file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366347
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The next few applications are clones/extracts/repackaged versions of some of the software that comes standard on the HTC Touch and similar devices. So for the Touch, Diamond, etc., I think these are already baked in. But for others, here they are:
FTouchFlo version 1.4.1
Software that mimic's the HTC "TouchFlo" functionality, which allows scrolling with your thumb or finger rather than having to use scroll bars. It also allows for some nice customizations, including the ability to launch different programs via directional finger swipes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
SCLPC++: Cloned version of the HTC Cube
There are a few cubes out there, and this is the one I found to be the most useful & responsive. It's also a 4-sided cube, with the last face being an additional program launcher. In truth, I don't use it as much as I thought I would now that I have it all set up and configured, but it's still pretty cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358102
Configuration tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374939
HTC Home Plugin / HTC Home Customizer
Large digital clock, favorite contacts, program launcher, weather, etc., on your Today screen. This can be used to configure, customize, and backup settings for the stock HTC Home as well as the custom one. Install "HTC Home Customizer v1.0 Final," and upon first use it will prompt you to install the HTC Home Plugin if you don't already have one.
http://www.pocketemu.com/download4.html
If your interested, there are also several other HTC applications and skins extracted from the Touch ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533
I also have the .cab file installers for all of these programs if you need them. If anyone has other applications that they enjoy, please share! In particular, I am looking for a more "finger friendly" alternative to the default UI for the Calendar. I very rarely use my stylus, as I find it more convenient to just use my finger or thumb nail. That's a bit more difficult with the default Calendar interface, and there are other things I don't like about it as well. If you've seen the Calendar interface on the iPhone, it's pretty good. Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather have a Windows Mobile device than an iPhone, especially since you can get more "under the hood" and customize it, etc., and there's a huge community of developers making apps for WM. But there are some things that are much better on the iPhone, including web browsing and overall touchscreen responsiveness. But hey, at least we're moving in the right direction. Maybe Windows Mobile 7 and beyond!?
By the way, I recently found this site:
http://www.touch-innovation.com/
It contains links to several different kinds of "finger friendly" Windows Mobile apps, including some of the ones I've listed above. There's a link to an older (free) version of "ThumbCal" on there, and I may give that a try at some point. But it looks like the more recent versions of it are no longer free.
EDIT: I also use S2U2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
and nueLight:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueLight.aspx
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nueLight:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueLight.aspx
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I tried out nueLight, and although the high beam and morse code functions are fancy and cool, I will still use Nilisco flashlight as my default flashlight. The reason is that I can easily bind it to a button (comm manager) and flick it on and off. The nueLight will only turn on with the button, but will not turn off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1381521&postcount=2
There were people saying they had a NES emulator for the Mogul, but I don;t think it actually exists, I never saw it posted. Would be sweet.
emkorial said:
There were people saying they had a NES emulator for the Mogul, but I don;t think it actually exists, I never saw it posted. Would be sweet.
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I use Smartgear. It emulates NES, GameBoy Color, and Genesis. It has a free trial version, but it is WELL worth the $10 it costs to register.
Find it here:
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/SmartGear.html
My favourite freeware:
1. Today Agenda: A rather simple Today screen plug-in that allows very flexible customization of information from your calendar and tasks to your Today screen. multiple-day agendas in collapsible line items on your Today Screen. Useful for precisely deciding how much real estate you want to give up for it. I love this program.
2. Amaze: Free voice navigation. Works pretty darned well.
3. S2u2: Slide to unlock program that allows you to dump your unlock line on your Today Screen, provides a bunch of useful info on your lock screen, allows calls, and is highly customizable.
4. Skyfire Beta: I really like Skyfire Beta. It works with most websites and provides full web experience, including streaming sound and video (you can play Youtube right on the browser).
5. Youtubeplayer: A nice means of searching, playing, and downloading you tube videos.
6. Pocket Music Lite: Free music player. No fancy coverflow interface, but a nice skinnable finger friendly interface. Only plays MP3s, but you can just get a converter program for your desktop.
7. Vade Mecum: Nice little ebook ready that reads plucker format. I read downloads from www.projectguternberg.org all the time. Has bookmark, search features.
8. VS Painter Lite: A nice draw and paint program that is free. Useful to annote pictures, draw maps or dungeons, etc.
9. Total Commander: One of the best file explorers out there.
10. Set Volume: Full screen volume controller. Skinnable and nice to hard key so you don't ever have to fart around with some tiny onscreen volume control.
11. Pocket Screen: Just a screen capture program, but very nice at that. Useful for showing off your stuff on forums.
12. Beyond Pod: A nice podcast player and RSS feed reader.
13. Google Maps and Live Search: Indispensible. Must haves.
14. Icontact (Burt's version): Very nice finger friendly contacts manager.
15. PCM Keyboard: Very customizable, essentially gives you the iphone keyboard experience on your ppc. Disable the annoying dictionary and word complete functions however.
Those are my favourite non-game freeware apps.
A shout out to shareware SPB Pocket Plus for having a very stable and nicely customizable Today Screen and Launcer experience. I tried Ulitmate Launcher and had all sorts of errors and problems and have read nightmares about HTC Home and HHC.
Devin
Fav app
My Favorite is GC Java Pack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402980
I have Meboy gameboy color emulator that runs as a java app. I love i play pokemon on it all the time
http://java-phones.com/tools/meboy
The developer of BeyondPod - possibly one of the best podcatcher/RSS readers available - has decided to focus more on the Android platform and less on WinMo. As anyone who has tried to use BeyondPod on any of the 6.5 builds knows, there are a number of issues with the way it renders feeds (missing scroll bars, no text size control, no finger scrolling, etc). Basically the program needs to be updated to support the new version of IE in 6.5.
This would also be an oppurtunity for anyone interested in the future of BeyondPod on WinMo to take over its development. The project is open source, and there are a number of possible improvements that could make this app even better (feed search, apptodate support, homescreen plugin, etc). The dev would be more than happy to have the help.
Couple links here:
BeyondPod home page
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/
BeyondPod source
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Discussion on 6.5 issues
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=53878
Anyone interested in tackling this project? Or is there an even better alternative out there for those of us who want to get our podcast on?
No one cares? Or maybe I'm one of the few that do?
Guess I need to teach myself some programming skills . . .
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
jeremy89632 said:
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
TheDaddy said:
You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
jeremy89632 said:
Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Dude. Read the first post carefully. And follow the links.
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
S200guy said:
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
bruceo said:
Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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SECOND that ... i would do it but I am no coder ... BOunty perhaps? or how can we get it done ?
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
jeremy89632 said:
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
bruceo said:
Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Oh, I dont notice this issue, as what you mentioned work perfectly fine, (Surprisingly) on my device.
I will check out and see how it goes.
Cheers.
Hi All,
jeremy89632 is right, if you just use your Dpad then the error doesn't occur. Another option I have found is that if you use the update and download option then that works as well.
I'm a .NET programmer and I think this is written in .NET. Let me take a peek at the source code for a few days and then I'll let you know if it is something I might want to tackle. I do a TON of development work in .NET but nothing on the mobile platform yet - this might be interesting. Plus, I've been looking for a good RSS/podcast reader myself!
/Chimp (Tom)
Tom, Def check it out it rocks for audio podcasts.
I seem to have found a temp workaround, which tells me a solution cannot be far off. When I go into content view and cannot see the content or it is messed up. I just switch my touch pro to landsacpe and the view is fine abd I can use the dpad to scroll. I will ususally just shift right back to landscape and the view remains perfect but dpad wont scroll until I first touch the screen, then it will dpad scroll with no problem. I can click and download feeds with no problem. I reduced the large text size in beyondpod settings. All the podcasts manage and playback fine but the volume is much lower than normal hard to hear even with mediaplayer and system volume at max. Volume in my other apps and mediaplayer is very loud as normal.
It it more complex than I thought. Also, is this only for a SmartPhone? Or is also for a WM Professional device? When I finally got it loaded into VS2008 it only showed a SmartPhone device.
I'll keep playing with it.
Chimp (Tom)
Definitely PPC touchscreens. On 6.1 it was pretty flawless and fairly finger friendly.
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
Well, as this app is for the touchscreen users, it is easier to squash bugs for users rather than to create a smartphone version and cause issues.
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Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
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I downloaded the code, as well... I got it to successfully compile and run in the WM6.5 Pro emulator (with the stated problems). You need to change the target platform to WM 6 Pro.
Like you said, the code is really complex, but I kind of understand why, it's a great program, and I've missed it since I finally got 6.5 on my i910...
I don't have a lot of spare time, but I'll try to tackle this thing...
I just got the Sprint TP2 the other day. Loving it so far. But I started putting some java apps on today, and...not loving it anymore=( Seems Sprint decided to add this POS Titan Java engine, which won't recognize or run the first half dozen apps I put on there.
I've searched these forums, googled, no help. Couple other java problem threads on here with no answers yet. Few references on ppc geek back in July that point to old VGA java builds.
Does anyone know if there is a WVGA build out there that will work with the TP2? Cause the included clearly is garbage.
To be more clear not looking at new roms as a solution just now, I figured I'd run this native at least a week.
Running Esmertec Jbed Java 20090217.5.1R2 on Sprint TP2 - seems to be okay. Only using gmail and opera mini 4.2
Can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407667
May need to change the font sizes in the registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Esmertec Java\Device Info\Java Font]
Default values:
"Size Large"="26"
"Size Medium"="20"
"Size Small"="16"
New values:
"Size Large"="36"
"Size Medium"="32"
"Size Small"="26"
I grabbed the same thing. Only really interested in java for games though. Why would you want Opera Mini when TP2 runs Opera Mobile so nicely?
Problem I have now is figuring out how to play any of them. Didn't see any input customization available, like mapping the keyboard. None are touch games. Solve a problem, find another=P
I have an HD2 (TMO USA) ordered, should come in a day or two.
Does the HD2 come with a JVM for running Java midlet (J2ME) applets?
If so, what kind is it? Any good, or better to use one of the hacked Jbeds that are available on this site?
What would I use with it? Probably mainly the Gmail java applet? Although one can access Gmail through a browser, or via Imap and the WM mail application, I have always found the Gmail java applet to be a handy way to access mail.
I used to use Opera Mini through java, not sure how useful that is now. For one thing, there is a WM version of Opera Mini 5, not needing java. Also, Opera Mobile is now very similar to Opera Mini, a version comes with the HD2, and one can download a newer version, and it is free. (Or--do any readers still find it useful to use java opera mini, on a wm phone?)
In any case, does a jvm come with the HD2? Any good? If people prefer using a different jvm (than what comes with it), which do you recommend?
The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!
Thanks, Ashasaur.
One nice thing about some of the Jbeds--the ability to create a shortcut in WM that will open up the applet directly (such as Gmail), without having to open up the java app first.
Also, with some of the jbeds, it is possible to hack it, so one doesn't get those damn permission questions about whether it is allowed to access the internet, etc.
Can the built-in JVM do those things?
As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You mean a freeware app especially to go with that Sun JVM, and create shortcuts for its apps? What is it called?
No no, its a freeware app to work with ANY Java VM, including the built in Sun one. Its on the WM Marketplace, and its called JavaShortcut. Just like that, no space.
me, just FYI I've never been able to get any of the g-mail applets to work on the built-in JVM, so you'll at least need to try an alternative one, although I suspect that even that might not get it working on this phone.
Upgraded to HD2 from TP2 four days ago, really impressed with the speed, and do miss the hardware keyboard!
My 2 cents: it's easy to set up gmail with the built-in email client but I do lose the ability to search emails (somebody enlighten me!). I have tried using the java gmail app with built-in Sun jvm but no luck, gmail app won't even open.
As for browser, Opera mini is still my favorite. For 1 I have been using it for so long and really enjoyed the speed (and knows how to avoid all the pitfalls!). For 2 I don't have to clean cache as no cache files are stored on my phone!
But when it comes to anything requires a password, I switch to opera mobile. The auto-rotating is kinda annoying when browsing in bed
ashasaur said:
The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!
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As I wrote, there is now a direct WM version of Opera Mini 5, so a jvm is not necessary for that. And it is different from Opera Mobile. It starts up much faster, for instance. The other option is the new Opera Mobile, v 10. Three different Operas one can use.)
By the way, pinch to zoom can be added to practically any app, with tweak apps such as BSBTweaks. I don't really find pinch to zoom to be such a great feature though. Easier to use the zoom scroll bar.
Regarding using the Gmail midlet with the included JVM--there is a problem with that! (See other thread.)
ashasaur said:
As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You're wrong on the permission messages. Highlight an applet in the jvm, choose permission settings, and you can choose for it only to ask permission the first time, never again.
One other nice thing about the Sun JVM included on the HD2--you can choose to install the midlet apps in either main memory or storage card.
The ability to go directly to the midlet app, without having to go through the jvm interface first, is important, a nice feature that one can tweak with many of the esmertec jbeds. If one can do that with this Sun JVM, using that freeware app you speak of, then this Sun JVM is looking pretty good,
Except--that so far I can't get the Gmail midlet to work with it at all!
Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)
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Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)
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Check this browser out and see what you think about it.
http://www.uzard.com/en/main/main.asp
Has anyone got this to work on the HD2?
Of course there are other ways to access Gmail, like the default mail application, and also with any browser.
But the java midlet is nice, very fast, have used it on other phones before, including Windows Mobile.
I installed it on the HD2, using the built-in Sun midlet manager.
It appeared to install fine.
However, when I try to launch it, I invariably get the same error message: "This program requires a working data connection. Please check your signal strength and connections settings and then restart the application".
No matter how good the data connection is, including with Wi-fi, I invariably get that same error message, when I try to launch the Gmail midlet. Anyone know what is causing that?
Has anyone been able to get it working on the HD2?
I've tried several different methods to get gmail applets to work and have been completely unsuccessful on both my HD2 and TP2, I was under the impression that they just don't have a 6.5-compatible version.
it does work, you just need to use esmertec jbed. however I found the fonts are so tiny its really difficult to use.
I end up setting the home page of opera mobile and pie both to m.gmail.com and logged in two of my most used gmail accounts.
sirphunkee said:
I've tried several different methods to get gmail applets to work and have been completely unsuccessful on both my HD2 and TP2, I was under the impression that they just don't have a 6.5-compatible version.
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I don't think it has anything to do with compatibility with WM 6.5. It has to do with the Java JVM that comes on the phone--from Sun.
As someone else wrote, one can install a different JVM, such as Esmertec JBED.
Surprising though, that Sun, the founder of Java, would not make sure that its mobile JVM is compatible with one of the most popular java phone apps. I wonder if Sun (and HTC) is aware of the problem?
In other respects, this version of the Sun JVM looks nice. For instance, you can choose to install each app to main memory or storage card. Good to have the choice. Also, you can turn off all permission-asking.
I tried Bolt Browser on it, also didn't work. I think it has a network problem.
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I don't think it has anything to do with compatibility with WM 6.5. It has to do with the Java JVM that comes on the phone--from Sun.
As someone else wrote, one can install a different JVM, such as Esmertec JBED.
Surprising though, that Sun, the founder of Java, would not make sure that its mobile JVM is compatible with one of the most popular java phone apps. I wonder if Sun (and HTC) is aware of the problem?
In other respects, this version of the Sun JVM looks nice. For instance, you can choose to install each app to main memory or storage card. Good to have the choice. Also, you can turn off all permission-asking.
I tried Bolt Browser on it, also didn't work. I think it has a network problem.
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I guess that's what I was trying to say....after I started using 6.5, I never found a JVM that would work with the Gmail applet I had, that's all.