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Has anyone tried out Google Maps Mobile on Universal?

Google released a j2me version of its map service which is available at http://www.google.com/gmm
In order to download the j2me application you must use a mobile device to visit the above link. Choose the high-end version.
I tried this on my Universal and it works fine! (You should use the application as if you were using a smartphone)
Although it does not support GPS at the moment, I am more than satisfied with this initial release of google maps service with a fullscreen VGA display. It's also free from money and storage card space.
There is currently a small issue that the menu sometimes doesn't show up after I tap "zoom -". I'm not sure if this is the case for all universals or not.
It is thereby worth trying this and expecting a Pocket PC version of google maps, which should definitely support screen tapping and dragging.

Having trouble with the Midlet mgr
I have tried and tried to get the google maps to my Universal; No luck what so ever; Its trying to do something but the Midlet Mgr comes up and does nothing ! Is there any reason in particular this happens ??

There was a thread for google maps somewhere in the forums, to make it work you need a IBM java midlet manager which work with google maps java app. It does not worked in my Blueangel. Soon i will get Universal and post the results

I just tried to day (18 may) on my brand new tmob mda pro, and it works... kinda. It's painfully slow and unresponsive. After the initial excitement of seeing the familiar google map world map, my enthusiasm quickly died down when the midlet starting prompting for network use authorization one after th e other. After zooming in around a few times, it completely froze.

Actually...
... I'd like to update my post above. The network I was on was using some firewall/censorship tools. When I tried it again today on my wifi connection, it worked flawlessly, apart from the annoying repetitive message asking for the right to connect. Impressive stuff to show your friends, especially thanks to the VGA screen.

Its not supporting the touch screen right?
I must say I have some issue with it, being pretty sluggish and crashing a lot, plus I cant type adresses. Pretty awful all in all. Do I need another Java VM?
Anyway, it would be cool if it worked, because Pocket streets actually sucks a lot regarding the map layout. Anyone got mor tips for such apps?

Re: Actually...
mdaexecfan said:
... I'd like to update my post above. The network I was on was using some firewall/censorship tools. When I tried it again today on my wifi connection, it worked flawlessly, apart from the annoying repetitive message asking for the right to connect. Impressive stuff to show your friends, especially thanks to the VGA screen.
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The java applet does rely highly on the quality of connection though, otherwise it is easy to get stuck on the screen. Likewise, some functions do not seem to work properly since it isn't a stable version. Based on Java, it is also reasonbly slow.
This should originally be designed for a phone and I guess there would probably be a PPC version which supports most of the WM + touchscreen features.
It can't be said as a fantastic tomtom replacement yet but I can foresee that in some near future.

well, If only opera allowed the user-agent string to be modified, we could actually just browse maps.google.com and be done with it. But noooooooo.... for some reason the user-agent string can't be changed. Arrrrg.

mdaexecfan said:
well, If only opera allowed the user-agent string to be modified, we could actually just browse maps.google.com and be done with it. But noooooooo.... for some reason the user-agent string can't be changed. Arrrrg.
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actually I can visit maps.google.com normally with PIE and get a simplified version of map service which provides the map as plain graphic files (like jpg or gif). The graphic map cannot of course be dragged or tapped, and is in broken colours.
It won't be a good way of google to improve maps.google.com since this calls for too many modifications in PIE and hence can't be eligible. Comparing with the slow pace of MS I would rather believe google will be a bit faster to produce a reader to their own maps.

Well, Google Maps Mobile works on my T-Mobile MDA Pro, but just barely...
For every single keystroke, it asks me:
"Google Maps" wishes to access the network, which might use call time. This MIDlet suite is not from a trusted source.
Allow this time?
[ No ] [ Yes ]
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I can't find a way to permanently allow it to access the network. In the midlet's security settings, I can only choose between "No" or "Oneshot", for network access.
Anyone know how to permanently allow this? Or how to make a MIDlet "trusted"?
I'm running on the built-in MIDlet manager (intent Java MIDlet Manager, Runtime JTWI 1.0: v10.1.7.666 (Build 20051117)).
Thanks,
- Michael

Google Maps was working fine on my HTC Wizard before I upgraded to a newer ROM, now it's also saying the same thing:
"Google Maps" wishes to access the network, whic might use call time. This MIDlet suite is not from a trusted source. Allow this time?
I remember when I tried it previously it only asked this once, not it's asking so often it's impossible to use google maps properly.
If anyone has an idea please post!

java on tytn

hello,
a small Q, I'm trying to get Google earth to work on my new tytn but im missing the java plug-in, any one got a clue which java plug-in will fit the tytn (if at all)?
thanks!

Google earth
danidin said:
hello,
a small Q, I'm trying to get Google earth to work on my new tytn but im missing the java plug-in, any one got a clue which java plug-in will fit the tytn (if at all)?
thanks!
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Are you talking about Virtual Earth Mobile cos this is brilliant. I used to use a version that required a java plug in but I reckon this is better excellent in fact.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4439.html
This gives a cab file so dead easy to install.
Mike

Java version
Danidin
Sorry if I was a little dismissive re Java version, and as I'm feeling guilty, here's a link that will help if you really want to pursue the Java, Jar, Jad, Midlet thingy route.
Note "Google Local Mobile got renamed to Google Mobile Maps (gmm) and the main Java class is now called GoogleNav."
http://jeepx.blogspot.com/2005/12/google-local-mobile.html
Mike

Also some more info on Java on PDAs here:
http://blog.vikdavid.com/2004/12/java_on_pocketp.html
I use the IBM J9 java emulator. Works well.
BTW You might like to have a look at MG Maps:
http://www.mgmaps.com/
It can access Google Maps, Google Satellite, MSN Road Map, MSN Aerial, MSN Aerial with labels, Yahoo Maps, Yahoo Satellite, Ask.com Maps and Ask.com Aerial. It's GPS aware (although this doesn't seem to work with my BT GPS) and can access KML overlays (although I haven't tried this out yet.)
Very nice.

totallytechie said:
Also some more info on Java on PDAs here:
http://blog.vikdavid.com/2004/12/java_on_pocketp.html
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Please also note that my PPCMag Expert Blog has a LOT of additional Java-related tips and tricks. I'm constantly reporting on the latest developments in the PPC-related Java questions. Make sure you check out all the three Java-related categories in my blog at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3

thanks guys! a lot of info to dive in, great!

People still use java??? I haven't used java on my phone since I last had a SonyEricsson! I haven't bothered with Java on WM phones.

java and flash are the future of mobiles, they just haven't realized it yet (aside from Japan ) and ajax...

I think the original poster was referring to javascript, not real java code. A lot of Banks and online sites us javascript and it used to be a big problem with ce and wm2002 and wm 2003. WM5 seems to handle some of the basic javascript and then there are several apps for addon such as IBM's j9 or websphere or what ever the name is this year. Also, midlet's are becoming more available

darky said:
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You mean JavaScript? Very few pages use client-side Java and I don't think this will change.

eagle 1 said:
I think the original poster was referring to javascript, not real java code.
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Nope, Google Earth is Midlet-based; see my Midlet & Google Earth -related articles.

Is there any way you can get a pluggin that makes java midlets (J2ME) Work any better? The ammount of midlets that install and then just do nothing is appaling? Sony Ericcsons and Nokia's have multiplayer Bluetooth Midlets that work on either device, why not on ours?? Also one in particular is REPORO (Awesome Program) They have a midlet specifically made for the Wizzard wchic works fine on the Tytn but I have found it is massively cut down! On a Nokia or Sony Ericsson or Motorola (I work in a phone shop so have everything readily available) They can all access the phones contact book and Pictures and Camera so you can send free picture messages to other REPORO users! Now Ive installed all the other brands versions onto my VARIO and they all install fine but then they dont run and crash my phone! Can I get an emulator or a pluggin to fix this?
www.REPORO.com
(Awesome if only for the live football results)
Chat rooms
Free Texts
Free Picture Messages
MSN, YAHOO, AIM, Google Messenger!
Shopping
News
Horrorscopes
And the list keeps getting bigger! Awesome software!! (MAke sure you select the O2 XDA MINI S as your device as its the only Wizzard derivative on there.

Install the J9 VM like others have mentioned.
Oh, and remember: "Write Once, Run Anywhere"...HA!!

Can a Palm OS platform run simultaniously on a WM6 phone?

Hi guys, I have an HTC touch (sprint) and got a job with a air balancing company and they have software that links their ppc's to their server for live data entry. however the application is only available for the palm os. Does anyone know if installing multiple OS's on a phone is even possible, like installing linux on an ipod? or if not, any way to convert a palm os application to WM6 combatible application. If needed, i have the install files for my application, any assistance would be greatly appreciated. If nothing exists i would even consider payment for the application to be convtered if anyone is intrested.
Thank you
Matt

you would probably have to build the application up again from the ground up if its a native palm application, although, if its written in a common language, i dont see why it couldnt be ported over
somebody more knowledgable should be able to help you better
and welcome to xda-devs

you can use styletap to run palmOS apps on windows mobile, if this is what you want to do.

Well, im 50% there, styletap works great, im able to load the software and run it, no glitches yet, however styletap doesnt seem to be allowing the application to sync with my server. any1 have any ideas? i even tried first establishing a data conn in WM6 using IE and hopped back to style tap to sync again. no luck

Java Apps with JBlend

Hi Everyone,
I have had my Touch Pro 2 for about a week now and there is something that is bugging me.
Although I can install applications perfectly fine, java applications however can only be accessed by using JBlend.
I want to use Gmail but I need to use the keyboard when typing emails, and so each time the Gsensor notices a screen rotation the application must restart. This is definitely an annoyance.
Is it possible to install Java Applications that run in another type of Java enabled platform or even better off the Windows Mobile application list natively like normal phones.
I will try going into Gyrator 2 and setting up a new event for Gmail, but I don't think I will be able to find the jar extension.

Did u tried JBed before? Many cabs floating here.

No it's my first time using it. All the other phones I had used Java apps natively.
The version I'm using came with the EU ROM. Build v3.3.5, 20090316.2.1

I have this problem too. Using Jblend with my stock broking software.... whenever I close the keyboard... I will get error message: Screen rotation detected, please restart MIDLET. ARGGHHH......
Hopefully someone can come up with a solution for this.

Ha.... solve thanks to monx.
Jbed works well. Do a google search for Jbed Midlet Manager Build 20070802.2.1. Fonts are a bit smaller but it works fine and supports screen rotation on my stock software now.
Cheers!!!!

Java JVM on HD2?

I have an HD2 (TMO USA) ordered, should come in a day or two.
Does the HD2 come with a JVM for running Java midlet (J2ME) applets?
If so, what kind is it? Any good, or better to use one of the hacked Jbeds that are available on this site?
What would I use with it? Probably mainly the Gmail java applet? Although one can access Gmail through a browser, or via Imap and the WM mail application, I have always found the Gmail java applet to be a handy way to access mail.
I used to use Opera Mini through java, not sure how useful that is now. For one thing, there is a WM version of Opera Mini 5, not needing java. Also, Opera Mobile is now very similar to Opera Mini, a version comes with the HD2, and one can download a newer version, and it is free. (Or--do any readers still find it useful to use java opera mini, on a wm phone?)
In any case, does a jvm come with the HD2? Any good? If people prefer using a different jvm (than what comes with it), which do you recommend?

The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!

Thanks, Ashasaur.
One nice thing about some of the Jbeds--the ability to create a shortcut in WM that will open up the applet directly (such as Gmail), without having to open up the java app first.
Also, with some of the jbeds, it is possible to hack it, so one doesn't get those damn permission questions about whether it is allowed to access the internet, etc.
Can the built-in JVM do those things?

As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.

ashasaur said:
As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You mean a freeware app especially to go with that Sun JVM, and create shortcuts for its apps? What is it called?

No no, its a freeware app to work with ANY Java VM, including the built in Sun one. Its on the WM Marketplace, and its called JavaShortcut. Just like that, no space.

me, just FYI I've never been able to get any of the g-mail applets to work on the built-in JVM, so you'll at least need to try an alternative one, although I suspect that even that might not get it working on this phone.

Upgraded to HD2 from TP2 four days ago, really impressed with the speed, and do miss the hardware keyboard!
My 2 cents: it's easy to set up gmail with the built-in email client but I do lose the ability to search emails (somebody enlighten me!). I have tried using the java gmail app with built-in Sun jvm but no luck, gmail app won't even open.
As for browser, Opera mini is still my favorite. For 1 I have been using it for so long and really enjoyed the speed (and knows how to avoid all the pitfalls!). For 2 I don't have to clean cache as no cache files are stored on my phone!
But when it comes to anything requires a password, I switch to opera mobile. The auto-rotating is kinda annoying when browsing in bed

ashasaur said:
The HD2 does indeed ship with a Java Virtual Machine...but in my opinion it is not a very good one. It's an official Sun Microsystems JVM, and I personally have always hated the ones made by Sun. I use an older Esmertec JBED one that I found here in the Wizard forums from back in 2006, and it works pretty well.
Again, in my opinion, Opera Mini is kinda useless seeing as Opera 9 works soooo well on the HD2. The speed between the two is about the same to me over 3G, though over EDGE Opera Mini is a bit faster because of it's server side rendering.
The only problem with the older JVM's that you find, is that they are made for devices with much smaller resolutions than the HD2, so the text and buttons are miniscule. So thats another thing to keep in mind.
Overall, I would just stick with the included Opera 9, and don't upgrade to 10 if you wan't to keep pinch to zoom as it is not supported as of yet, and if you REALLY need to use the JVM version of Gmail, just use the included JVM. I hope that helps!
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As I wrote, there is now a direct WM version of Opera Mini 5, so a jvm is not necessary for that. And it is different from Opera Mobile. It starts up much faster, for instance. The other option is the new Opera Mobile, v 10. Three different Operas one can use.)
By the way, pinch to zoom can be added to practically any app, with tweak apps such as BSBTweaks. I don't really find pinch to zoom to be such a great feature though. Easier to use the zoom scroll bar.
Regarding using the Gmail midlet with the included JVM--there is a problem with that! (See other thread.)

ashasaur said:
As far as I can tell, no and no. I cannot make the built in JVM create out of program shortcuts, but there is a freeware application on the WM Marketplace to do just that that I use everyday. And no, I cannot make the permission messages go away either.
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You're wrong on the permission messages. Highlight an applet in the jvm, choose permission settings, and you can choose for it only to ask permission the first time, never again.
One other nice thing about the Sun JVM included on the HD2--you can choose to install the midlet apps in either main memory or storage card.
The ability to go directly to the midlet app, without having to go through the jvm interface first, is important, a nice feature that one can tweak with many of the esmertec jbeds. If one can do that with this Sun JVM, using that freeware app you speak of, then this Sun JVM is looking pretty good,
Except--that so far I can't get the Gmail midlet to work with it at all!

Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)

me said:
Well, I would still like to know what JVMs people have found to work well with the HD2. Once again, I have the T-Mobile USA model, with the stock ROM (not the newest one, but the older one that came on it). (I haven't had time to flash to the new one and reinstall and reconfigure everything yet..)
I cannot get the built-in Sun JVM to work with anything involving the Internet. (By the way, has that been improved with the newer stock ROM?)
I use one of the Esmertec JBeds from here (XDA developers) for the Gmail app. It works, but not all the time. It doe not work for composing messages, as the text ends up too small and unreadable.
So, I usually use the built-in mail client. However, I like that Gmail app better, if I could find a good JVM for it to work on. (Sure wish they had a WM client!)
Opera Mini does have a WM cient now, for OM 5.1. I use that, works good. However, now there are two new Opera Minis--6.1, and 4.3. I would like to try them. Neither come with a WM client though, so one has to use java. The question again then-which JVM to use?
Also, with Skyfire no longer running on Windows Mobile, one of the only mobile browsers that can play flash video is the Bolt Browser. That also is a Java-only browser requiring a JVM.
What JVMs have folks found to run good on the HD2? (And please tell me if the built-in one has been improved in the newest TMO stock ROM?)
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