This might be an enormously newbie question, but if I have a work desktop connected to the internet via the LAN, can I add a bluetooth dongle to it to connect my Jasjar to the internet?
I think you can. You can sync your xda with Active Sync. Then it will use the internet connection from your PC, just like when you have it connected with the USB cable.
I just tried this and it worked.
What you gotta do is the following:
- Open your bluetooth connections on your PC
- Add new device
- Make sure you have your bluetooth turned on on your Universal and make detection of other devices possible
- Add your device on the PC
- Now go to the COM port tab
- Choose add and choose a new incomming port (your PC will make a new COM port, make sure this number is below 20)
- Open Active Sync on your universal and choose "menu" connect with bluetooth
- Now Active Sync will say that there are no devices are installed. Add a new device (your PC)
- You will see that the service "Active Sync" is available. Now check this option
- Now you can make the connection with your PC and also will be able to use the internet connection
A friend told me that the internet connection won't go faster then GPRS, so don't expect much. But you have your free wireless internet connection within a range of about 10 meter from your PC.
8YEight said:
I just tried this and it worked.
What you gotta do is the following:
- Open your bluetooth connections on your PC
- Add new device
- Make sure you have your bluetooth turned on on your Universal and make detection of other devices possible
- Add your device on the PC
- Now go to the COM port tab
- Choose add and choose a new incomming port (your PC will make a new COM port, make sure this number is below 20)
- Open Active Sync on your universal and choose "menu" connect with bluetooth
- Now Active Sync will say that there are no devices are installed. Add a new device (your PC)
- You will see that the service "Active Sync" is available. Now check this option
- Now you can make the connection with your PC and also will be able to use the internet connection
A friend told me that the internet connection won't go faster then GPRS, so don't expect much. But you have your free wireless internet connection within a range of about 10 meter from your PC.
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Oooooohh brother,i've read this and tried it at home.. i played arround for an hour or two,i had many problems...
But it works !!! Finally it works ! So what i want to say is :
THANK YOU !!!!
My PC is downloading full speed and i am surfing from my bed with my UNI
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
derrumbe said:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
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1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
3. You can use the internet connection from any program while BB Connect is running. However, Since BB Connect is a lower priority connection, applications like pIE, etc. will take a higher priority over BB Connect and force the BB Connect client to idle while it waits for the connection. This is an automatic process.
4. BB Connect will uses the built in PIM applications (Pocket Outlook, etc.)
Cingular has a few Blackberry plans including a unlimited plan.
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
derrumbe said:
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
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I am assuming I understand your connection question. BB Connect is no different then other applications that use a internet connection. BB Connect uses the internet connection to connect and pull down mail. Other apps don't use BB Connect to get a connection. If you have a BB plan, that will allow you to have a connection not only for email, but for any app (i.e. Internet Explorer)
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
derrumbe said:
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
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That's correct. Cingular has no idea nor cares what device you are using. They actually sell devices like the Nokia E62 (BB Connect preinstalled) and Treo 650 which has the BB Connect software available for download.
brmcguire said:
1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
yeah, it only works with GSM - you have to force the band away from utms.
if you go over on howard forums and look in the cingular section, you can find info - I think that I saw that error mentioned....
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
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When BB Connect is fully connected to the BES/BIS it will display 4 dots. For some reason, and I don't know why is that the BB Connect client doesn't like a UMTS connection. It might have todo with how GPRS/GSM holds a connection. Here is a handy link for connection status indications.
As far as the BIS registration, you will need to create a NEW account on the Cingular BIS site. Then you will be able to register your device and BB Connect.
http://www.dopodasia.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/connection.html
derrumbe said:
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
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No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
rsolomon said:
No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
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Hi there, sorry to be so unspecific, but at least I wanted to share my experience
German O2 XDA/HERMES recent, used in Belgium with a Company BB service from Proximus, using BB connect 2.16 usually via UMTS, but when roaming also via GPRS; never forced it to GSM.
It is very slow! so you need to be patient; 1 min waiting until everything has re-connected is not unusual.
I remember that I had the same issue of BB Connect monopolizing the internet connection so that Skype not even started and IE was not able to connect to the internet neither.
After a cold reset and re-installation of everything it works now to expectations:
BB C is usually always on and on UMTS
When starting IE, a pop up apprears saying, connecting to ...
that's when BBC goes 'offline' Symbol :!
I can then surf the Internet
You must TERMINATE IE, not just leave it running in the background
After some time, BBC will automatically re-connect. If you try to speed up, it will complain that the connection is still blocked by another program.
I believe that BB C creates another hidden connection which is not visible in the connection folder, but if you use fit4cat, there is a tweak for 'force connection always on' and there I can see Blackberry as connection
I did not notice any handling difference between UMTS or GPRS.
HOWEVER
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
I'm using BB Connect with a Vario II on TMUK.
When BB Service is on, I am connected through the blackberry.net APN, but via UMTS. If I want to browse, check POP3 email or do anything else, I have to be connected through the TMUK Internet Access Point, which is how I access Web 'N Walk and my unlimited data allowance. This, of course, interrupts my BB connection.
I believe it should be possible to use the blackberry.net APN for web-surfing as well because on RIM devices, all data goes through the BB APN. However, if I try to manually set up a new connection with the blackberry.net APN and route data traffic through it, it doesn't work.
So, not quite sure, but it should be possible to use the blackberry bundle on whatever network as the conduit for data traffic that one of the posters here was referring to - might just need a chat with tech support at your network.
Dave
other post says BBC does not support MDS, so you cannot surf using blackberry.net (not sure what MDS is, but guess it is in a real BB)
also can confirm that I have to suspend the Blackberry GPRS/EDGE connection before IE and POP3 mail will work - both GPRS connections (Blackberry and normal GPRS) are active, but the Blasckberry one seems to have priority
using HTC P3300 and TMO BBC client 2.1.2.31
ive been using BBConnect on both the XDA Exec and the V1605 for well over a year, it will connect to the BB Server using whatever PHONE network band is available e.g. UMTS if in a good Vodafone signal area or it will step back to GPRS if it doesnt, there are issues when roaming on other networks which will not pass through the BB connection so for example when in Germany on a supposed Roaming Partners network BB doesnt connect. I just have to force the Phone to try to connect to VF which then obviously works albeit a low speed connection. as for using PIE whenever I try to connect it disconnects the BB Connection and connects again using the VF connection, I agree this is a bit @rse as you would have thought the applicaitons could see that there is a usable connection there and should therefore utilise it..
If anyone knows of a registry setting that can be modified to fix the connection hopping I would be interested.
Problem with BB C on Tytn
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
Timmy-Boy said:
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
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try this....
1) Change device ID, from Start -> Settings -> System -> About -> Device ID to HTC_TyTN
2) Edit your registry: HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change the key from (1.0.0) or whatever in there to .0.4.2
lve0200 said:
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
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As he mentioned above I have the same problem. For regular Blackberry devices they give the advice to check the options on the messaging screen and there is setting to choose delete on handheld, both, or prompt, But I could not find any such setting in the BB client for WM6.1
BB Client is 4.0.0.97, desktop software is 4.0.0.18
Any advices?
!!! SOLVED !!!
1. Tap Start > Settings.
2. Tap the System tab.
3. Tap the BlackBerry icon.
4. Tap the Services tab.
5. Tap the BlackBerry [CMIME] service book
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
8. From the Conflicts drop‐down list, tap an option.
9. From the Delete on drop-down list, tap an option.
I just got issued a Cingular Berry at work. We use a BES server with Exchange. Any way I can use my 8525 (unlocked) instead of my BB.
I've read mixed results and methods on forums/sites. I'd just like a direct answer and a how-to would be even better.
You'll find TONS of information on that particular issue here..
Either get the blackberry connect service from Cingular and use your 8525 with the black berry client on it... or.... use the company's exchange server with activesync. If you're lucky and they have exchange 2003 with SP2 you will even get direct push email, just like a berry.
Here's my setup:
1) Cingular 8525 SIM/CID unlocked (HardSPL 7)
2) Elf's 2.1 Crackberry ROM (WM6) - very nice stable build.
3) BBConnect 4.0.0.67 CAB
4) Cingular Blackberry Tethered Unlimited (both BIS and BES enabled)
Make sure you have a data connection working first.
BBConnect will issue you PIN after you click the Register button - you can see this in the BB Connect utility on your handheld.
You can then use this PIN and your phone IMEI on Cingular's BB site:
http://mycingular.blackberry.com/
Don't forget to download the Service books.
If your company has Outlook Web access for Exchange Server you can avoid BES.
BBConnect only allows 3 email boxes on a non-BB device.
Everything works fine except that the BB Service hogs the wireless connection so that I sometimes have problems with other services require internet connection.
Toss that Cingular ROM (even the latest 2.15 update) - it's worthless and a real headache - very unstable
Hi, I'm using WM6.0
I have several question about Microsoft Direct Push, I greatly appreciate if anyone can answer these questions:
I just setup a direct push through my company's exchange server. Everything works fine but I don't get it:
1. I set my Activesync to sync "As items arrive". Then GRPS will start and start sync'ing with exchange but it will stay on and won't disconnect. Is this normal? GPRS is very expensive in my country, I can't afford to have it on all the time.
2. If I disconnect GPRS and close Activesync, when I reopen it, the configuration of Activesync changes from "As items arrive" back to "Manually" > is this normal?
3. If I set it as "Manually" and close the Activesync and disconnect GPRS and try to send an email to myself. It will not push the email like I expected. I have to either go to COMManager and click on "Microsoft Direct Push", which will turn on my GPRS and will make it stay connected to GPRS.
4. If I use WiFi and send an email to myself, I will not get push email. Unless if I go to Activesync and press "SYNC"
5. If I use BT connection to my laptop and start Activesync. It will only sync with server when Activesync sync'ing with computer.
6. Why does Direct Push doesn't work like a Direct Push, it's more like a Direct Pull to me? I always thought that Direct Push meaning that it will connect to GPRS and retrieve an email and disconnect. JUST LIKE MMS.
7. Is there a way to make it a real Direct Push? like it will connect to GPRS only when I'm about to receive an email. Or it will push the email when I'm connected to WiFi?
Thank you for your help. Any comment or any explanation will do. If anyone has a website that explains this, it'll be great also. I have done researches as usual before I post this email but I can't find any answer.
Thx again
Direct Push and 3G-GPRS
Hi,
Same problem and same question about direct push.
I bought a tytn with WM5 to Orange (France). With VM5, the synchronisation is ok with usb and GPRS / 3G also : The 3G goes up as soon as the usb is disconnected and falls down as soon as USB is re-connected up.
With USB, the scheduling is about 5 mns. With 3G this is really "As items arrive".
Today I use WM6 (schap' s 3.54b) with ROM radio 1.51.00.10. The difference with WM5 is the following: 3G / GPRS with pushmail is ok, but when I connect up the usb, the 3G connection remains active, but I think that it is not used by activesync. I'm not sure.
I think that the directpush works only with the 3G, never with wifi, bluetooth or usb.
However, I do not know what has an influence on connection. Is this WM6, the version of protocol or the version of ROM radio? I have not found any doc yet.
If you have any suggestion...
thanks too
Yes, I read from somewhere that push mail will not work over WiFi or USB. When you are using WiFi or USB, you must click SYNC manually to sync with exchange. It will not push the mail.
I hate that fact that the GPRS won't disconnect after getting an email. MMS works that why, why can't push mail be that way?
GPRS is very expensive in Singapore. I wouldn't use it for Push Mail. I just have to make sure that it's doing it manually not "AS ITEMS ARRIVE". That will hurt my pocket and kill me slowly with bills.
A simple explanation would be necessary...
What is push mail ?
Push mail is when the server send a signal to your device so the latest can sync an retrieve any new event signaled. What it means is your device must be reachable from the outside world : your device NEEDS an IP address.
So yes, GPRS (EGDE, 3G, whatever...) needs to be activated all the time, or else the server won't know how to send a signal to your device.
This is like asking someone to send you some package without giving him the address...
You can replace the GPRS with a Wifi link, btw it would need to be always on, and I mean real ON, not the device falling a sleep. The PDA would run out of power in less than 2 hours.
Via Activesync ? Good try. Unfortunally although the device has an IP address, this one is not reachable outside from the computer. Only Activesync classical synchronisation can do the job.
Hope this help.
foxenesys said:
A simple explanation would be necessary...
What is push mail ?
Push mail is when the server send a signal to your device so the latest can sync an retrieve any new event signaled. What it means is your device must be reachable from the outside world : your device NEEDS an IP address.
So yes, GPRS (EGDE, 3G, whatever...) needs to be activated all the time, or else the server won't know how to send a signal to your device.
This is like asking someone to send you some package without giving him the address...
You can replace the GPRS with a Wifi link, btw it would need to be always on, and I mean real ON, not the device falling a sleep. The PDA would run out of power in less than 2 hours.
Via Activesync ? Good try. Unfortunally although the device has an IP address, this one is not reachable outside from the computer. Only Activesync classical synchronisation can do the job.
Hope this help.
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Then, how can you explain how MMS work? How can the GPRS turn on automatically when there is an MMS and disconnects after it finishes downloading the MMS?
Doesn't Blackberry do that?
bankir said:
Then, how can you explain how MMS work? How can the GPRS turn on automatically when there is an MMS and disconnects after it finishes downloading the MMS?
Doesn't Blackberry do that?
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For blackberry, you need a gateway to format all messages from exchange to cell phone.
Only to supplement explanation: The pda opens a session via the 3G on exchange server.The channel is so supported opened. At the arrival of a message exchange point out in the pda that he must synchronize. Then it is the habitual process activesync...
But i don't know why the 3G connection isn't disconnected when i plug the craddle. May be the version of protocole version ?
Blackberry also has an always on GPRS connection/