Difference between push mail and mail client - HD2 General

Can someone please explain me what is the difference between push mail option and mail client, I am not sure I even know what push email is....
Thanks

Bence said:
Can someone please explain me what is the difference between push mail option and mail client, I am not sure I even know what push email is....
Thanks
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Push-mails is supported by Outlook, and if your mail-server supports it too then you can activate it through the option in ConnManager.
Push-mail is in short, e-mails that gets "pushed" from the mail-server to your client (in this case your HD2/LEO) as soon as they arrive on the mail-server.
This goes for POP3 servers and so forth...
If you are using a hotmail or a live mail, then you can access the push-mail feature through the WindowsLive application on your device.
Just set it to recieve e-mails as soon as they arrive...
A very un-technical explanation, hope it helped

It helped, thanks
So push mail is something like: keep checking for new email all the time?
And I guess I need const. data connection or connected wlan for that, which eats my battery even more?

A mail client is a sfotware that connects to mail servers and allows you to read, write, receive and send mails.
Usually, your mail client connects to the inmail server when you tell him to do so (every x minutes or when you click the check mail button) and asks it if you've got new mail.
In the case of push mail, there's a permanent connection between your software and your mail server. As soon as the server gets a mail for you, he'll tell your client.

Bence said:
It helped, thanks
So push mail is something like: keep checking for new email all the time?
And I guess I need const. data connection or connected wlan for that, which eats my battery even more?
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Absolutely.

Bence said:
So push mail is something like: keep checking for new email all the time?
And I guess I need const. data connection or connected wlan for that, which eats my battery even more?
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Actually, no. With push mail, the client on your device isn't checking for new mail all the time. It's the opposite - it doesn't check at all. The server will notify it when there's new mail, and it will download it. Yes you do need an open connection but an "open" connection stays idle most of the time, your device doesn't do anything. To keep it alive, your client will only send very small packets ("heartbeats") to the server once in a while, so there is some overhead.
With classic non-push mail fetching the client will poll the server at set intervals. In order to do it, it will log in, check mail, download and log off. If there's no mail this traffic, CPU cycles, and therefore energy drawn from your battery are wasted. The overhead traffic is much more than in push scenario.
So push mail doesn't use more traffic than regular polling. Or at least there are many scenarios where it doesn't. It's safe to assume that if you check mail once a day or so you'll be better off with classic polling approach, but push will actually save your traffic and battery if you poll every 15 minutes or so.

Lamsebamsen said:
Push-mail is in short, e-mails that gets "pushed" from the mail-server to your client (in this case your HD2/LEO) as soon as they arrive on the mail-server.
This goes for POP3 servers and so forth...
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Wrong. There's no push for POP3. On WM, push mail is done via Exchange ActiveSync. Same goes for Gmail. IMAP has a command called IDLE, which lets the connection between the server and the client to stay open, and the server can initialte mail fetching ("push" messages, in other words). But WM has no native support for this.
So if you want push mail, you need an Exchange account (with Live, or Gmail, or another service), or a third-party client that will emulate push in the Apple/iPhone way - their server will keep connections with your mail services and will notify a program installed on your phone when new mails arrive by using various methods. I don't know exactly how they do it but there may be several approaches - i.e. by installing a server on your phone or by sending a specially crafted SMS that will initiate mail fetch.

vangrieg said:
Actually, no. With push mail, the client on your device isn't checking for new mail all the time. It's the opposite - it doesn't check at all. The server will notify it when there's new mail, and it will download it. Yes you do need an open connection but an "open" connection stays idle most of the time, your device doesn't do anything. To keep it alive, your client will only send very small packets ("heartbeats") to the server once in a while, so there is some overhead.
With classic non-push mail fetching the client will poll the server at set intervals. In order to do it, it will log in, check mail, download and log off. If there's no mail this traffic, CPU cycles, and therefore energy drawn from your battery are wasted. The overhead traffic is much more than in push scenario.
So push mail doesn't use more traffic than regular polling. Or at least there are many scenarios where it doesn't. It's safe to assume that if you check mail once a day or so you'll be better off with classic polling approach, but push will actually save your traffic and battery if you poll every 15 minutes or so.
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Actually, ActiveSync still polls the server at regular intervals. However, the server will hold the request until the end of that interval. If there's no change during this interval, server will return OK, and the phone will issue a new request. But as soon as there is a change (i.e. new mail), the server will send his response to the request, telling the phone there's new mail.
That's called long polling and isn't real push as Blackberry, but it still delivers mail instantly.

It doesn't poll the server, it rather pings it to keep the connection alive, which happens every several minutes. With polling, the amount of data is much greater.

According to Microsoft, it does :
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997252(EXCHG.80).aspx

Have you actually read the article? The client pings the server and only syncs when there is new stuff.

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Have you actually read the article? The client pings the server and only syncs when there is new stuff.
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Yep, read it. But as it says, there's been some change since winmo 5 :
Windows Mobile 6.1 includes improvements to the synchronization process. With Windows Mobile 6.1, the concept of "parking a request" remains. However, Windows Mobile 6.1 supports Exchange ActiveSync version 12.1. Exchange ActiveSync 12.1 supports parking the actual synchronization request, not only the ping request. Therefore, if new content arrives within the configured time limit, the HTTP response to the synchronization request will contain content. This behavior speeds content transfer and helps extend battery life on the device.
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So? The quote you give doesn't change anything. It says that the "New item in Inbox" response at T=26 on the diagram will come with actual data to make things faster, use less traffic and save battery. It doesn't say that the client issues sync requests all the time, and that's what matters to distinguish between polling and pinging. Because with the push scenario, the server knows how many messages the client has, what's the last downloaded message ID is etc. With polling you refresh and recalculate this stuff, and exchange all this information between the client and the server every time you hit Send/Receive (or at regular intervals). This causes much more overhead, together with logging in and off every time. You can see what happens every time without push when you open ActiveSync and hit Sync. Or look at the status line on the bottom of Outlook when you hit Send/Receive. With push it's just a tiny ping packet.

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Push Email V.S. Outlook (speed)

Check this out.
I sent a test email from a web email account to my exchange server. I had outlook open on my desktop, and my Wizard chillin next to me (in standby mode.) The desktop is connected to the exchange server with gigabit (the pc and server have gigabit and there is a linksys gigabit switch in between.) The email hit the exchange server in about 5 seconds (give or take.) A second or so later my phone beeped at me (the new mail notification) and a second after that outlook popped up the new email notification.
So my conclusion is exchange must send emails to the mobile device first, because obviously EDGE is no faster than gigabit (I wish!) However it is still cool that I get it faster on my phone!
Just another geek making fun observations; Lew
lol.....i did the same thing...
actually i did it from a few differnt accounts to see the speed of each one in comparison...hahah
I'm definitely luv'n this also. Finally we have the BlackBerry Killer. My typical response to my 8125 is about 8 to 10 seconds, slightly faster than my workstation. Keep meaning to turn off caching the OL2003 on my pc's profile ... just to be fair .....
i have not upgraded rom so i just get my ms exchange email via the "pull" method. you know... the sms-pingy thingy where i am set to receive as email is sent. when in my office, i usually get my email on the wizard just before it arrives in my pc inbox. i'm on edge btw
I use the push-mail option also, but the mails (or tasks or agenda items) usually need about a minute to arrive on my Wizard. But sometimes it arrives almost immediately. Since the PDA is set to notify directly, I suspect there must be a setting in Exchange to define an interval something like that, causing the Exchange server to send (accumulated) notifications only once per minute.
I have also noticed this, new mail arrives earlier on the Wizard than in Outlook.
If only the Wizard would notify me when I have new mail in the subfolders...
sure when you connect your device to your computer via usb from AS go to the config of your Mail (settings) and check the boxes (mail folders) you'd like sync'd
lvlolvlo said:
sure when you connect your device to your computer via usb from AS go to the config of your Mail (settings) and check the boxes (mail folders) you'd like sync'd
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i am not connected to my pc when i notice exchange "pull"-mail hitting ppc-outlook before desktop outlook
Moskus said:
I have also noticed this, new mail arrives earlier on the Wizard than in Outlook.
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I suppose Outlook uses "pull", that's why it's slower. I don't know the interval Outlook is using. "pull" and "push" is to different technics and "pull" is faster in most cases.
IMAP, POP3 - "pull"
SyncML - "push"
Does any of the new Outlook versions offer push mail compatibility?
i'm lost :shock: :shock: :shock:
Going out on a limb here, but I *think* Outlook client (PC not Pocket PC) sits there and waits and Exchange sends it some UDP traffic when there is an update to the mailbox and at that point it refreshs itself.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I do know that if the client is firewalled for incoming traffic from Exchange it won't auto send/receive and has to be manually done.
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When using push mail ... the connection between the client and server is always on. When a mail arrives the server is pushing the mail through it's open connection. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The exchange push mail.developers even mentioned this in their blog.
Cached exchange mode does usually take longer, the idea behind it is to take the load off the server. If you're not running cached mode, then you should always see the message first in Outlook as in direct mode it's a direct view onto the mailbox.
I get a outlook pop up in cached mode about 1 second after my phone beeps, it doesn't half make people see how good push mail is!
this is worthwhile reading, if you haven't already
http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/06/07/406035.aspx
I've been testing the push mail as well. Watching https connections with a netstat viewer on the Exchange server, I noticed that the connection to the device will occasionally drop. The device will reestablish after about a minute or so. I think that is why it sometimes takes longer to get the mail notification on the device. There are heartbeat settings in the device registry. If I have time I might play with those and see what it does to traffic and reconnection times.

Newbie questions - M5000 Email Options

Hi,
I have just upgraded from a very tired SE P900 to an Orange SPV M5000/HTC Universal and so far am loving it.
I run several email accounts and would like to be able to monitor at least two or three of them from the M5000, collecting the emails seperately as opposed to forwarding them all to a central inbox but there doesn't seem to be any logical way of doing it.
Also, what is the cheapest way of setting up some sort of push email functionality - I have only just started to look into this and see that Orange charge extra for the service.
I have updated (after problems with the Country ID error) to Orange's AKU2 ROM and have Exchange Server 2003 installed and have access to fixed IPs on the web, etc so can do a lot of things from my end.
Most of the time I will be using it at 3 different sites where I have wireless access and then occasionally would want to use either 3G or GPRS, whatever is available.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
For three seperate e-mail accounts, I'm not sure how to do that with normal POP email.
However, I myself run an IMAP server instead, and it keeps the IMAP emails in a seperate folder for each account. And as a big plus, everything you do is automatically synched between your email clients (e.g. when I read something on my phone, it's also marked as read on my PC)
I hadn't considered IMAP, however how do you deal with sending messages so that they go out of the different messages?
I need to ensure that the messages from the three accounts are kept totally separate with no confusion between sending addresses.
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I hadn't considered IMAP, however how do you deal with sending messages so that they go out of the different messages?
I need to ensure that the messages from the three accounts are kept totally separate with no confusion between sending addresses.
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I'm not sure with multiple IMAP accounts, but I do know that if you press "New", it'll just start the message with the current account you're browsing. So if I'm browsing the SMS inbox and press "New" it'll send as a text message, and in IMAP it'll send as an email.
Think your best option would be to test
Sorry, I am a newbie to this. Would you tell me what is IMAP?? and how do i set it up to check my email account?? is it sort of like the push email??
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Maggie
The two main protocols for collecting email on the web are POP3 and IMAP - with POP3 your mail gets delivered into a POP3 mailbox at your ISP and you then login with your mail program to download the emails to your local machine.
IMAP was developed on the basis of leaving your emails on the server and then only grabbing the headers or message bodies that you are interested in reading.
For example I run my own Exchange server and connect to exchange from my desktop to read/send emails. I can then use IMAP from my Universal to connect and give me a view of my message on the Exchange server - it downloads the headers and shows the ones I have read/not read. When I read a message on the Universal it is marked as read back on the Exchange server and appears as read on my desktop and vice versa - this way I don't have any duplicate messages.
Sorry, a bit long winded, but should give you an idea of how handy it can be - the biggest problem is that few ISPs openly support it due to the message store overhead.
Thank you Julian. What program should i use for Imap???
I wanna give it a try. Is there any other softwares out there which givesyou the blackberrry function??

[SEEKING ADVICE] - "push" mail

Hi mates,
I'm sure this question have been asked before, but I just cannot find a keyword to search for the answer. Would appreciate if you guys could answer here or direct me to the appropriate thread (or at least give me a hint on the keyword please - THANKS!)
ok. I was trying out emoze to get "push mail", but to do that, I need a 24/7 PC that is connected to the internet 24/7..
and I just realised that with my WM6 838PRO (Hermes), in the email settings, I could actually set it to check emails at a predetermined time (ie. every 10mins, 30mins etc..)
now, if anybody have already compared the data usage (cost), assuming its the same email (with the same amount of text) that arrives via emoze and WM6's email function.. and also assuming in both cases, it is set to every 10mins, could you tell me which one would cost less? (data usage)
and also whether the battery consumption would be the same?
with this WM6's email scheduled checking, is this MS DirectPush? or DirectPush is something else altogether?
THANKS SO MUCH !!
Regards,
[Charles]
I know this isn't a direct answer, but I would avoid emoze at all costs. The PC connector version requires you have your PC running and Outlook open at all times (unless you have an Exchange server and can use the Outlook Web Access version) and the application is hopelessly unstable. Have a look at my posts in the emoze support forum. Requests for help end up in an endless loop and then just disappear without resolution.
WM6 has true push email through MS Direct Push, which at present (I think) only works for Hotmail/Windows Live accounts. Other POP3 accounts can be set up in Pocket Outlook with a timed mail-check setting. In practice I have found that to work only intermittently.
It depends on whether you want the service to allow you to read your emails or reply as well. I am more concerned about reading them, so my solution was to set my corporate email account to auto-forward to my Hotmail account, which is then pushed instantly to my XDA. It's not a perfect solution at all (and a bit ridiculous to have Hotmail providing corporate mail) but the third-party solutions just don't seem ready as yet. I have tried a few and all have serious stability issues. Emoze is, however, the worst of the available offerings, IMHO.
I'm surprised more people haven't already responded.
Head over to http://live.mail2web.com and get a free Live account with them. Then, forward your regular email to that email address and set up your phone to use Direct Push with your mail2web account. Easy as sleep.
It's really push email, really fast, really FREE. Obviously, if you want any kind of email service on your phone, make sure you have a data plan that will support that much data transfer.
Hi mates,
Thanks for responding.
Although I am a cheapo (looking for free services), but i also need my receipients to see my domain's email address. I think mail2web allows some form of POP3 mail checking, but every email replied is from <myname>@mail2web.com ..
I don't mind the advertisements at the bottom of the emails (like what emoze does), but i cannot keep a PC 24/7 connected permanently..
I've been "testing" (trying) emoze for some time, and yes, it is not exactly stable. it crashed a couple of times.. ran outlook permanently in my PC (not running a server OS, just plain 'o Win XP) for a couple of weeks, and it did crashed once too.
for the past day, i've been using the Pocket Outlook to do the "pushmail" at atimed interval. it's actually pulling, not pushing.. only setback is, i can't set peak/off-peak times ..
guess beggars can't be chooser ya?
btw, i set Message download limit to 1Kb, and when i receive a email that states "3/28K", so the actual email is 28Kb, but what is "3" ? can't be 3Kb, right?
THANKS!!
Unfortunately, I have not found ANY service (push or otherwise) that will give you the "proxy address" capability that you want (making the email look like it came from your domain) for free. Inexpensive, yes....but not free.
You can sign up for mail2web's "enhanced email" plan ($4.99/month), which still gives you push mail, but adds proxy address options and pop/imap access, but for $6.99/month you can get a 1&1 personal exchange plan over at 1&1.com that gives you all of that PLUS full Exchange hosting (meaning you can hook into the Exchange server with your desktop Outlook 2003/2007 to syncrhonize with your handheld).
I actually am currently using the latter option for myself. You can get push mail for free, but not with the proxy address you want (you get what you pay for unfortunately).
I've been happily using the Pocket Outlook for "pull mail". I set it to check my pop3 account every 30mins.
so far so good. no missed emails for about a week!!
Since it is my own pop3 email account, replies all come from my own email domain name. professional!!
only issue is, i can't specify peak and off-peak time (ie. peak hour = every 30 min, off-peak = every 60 min or 2hrs) ..
if that could be done, i'll be very glad!
mail2web html
With mail2web I cant specify html. Only "Plain Text" message format is possible. Any ideas.
Thank you

Outlook sync times

Hi all,
I know that i can manage my sync times for hotmail by going
start>messaging>menu>options>hotmail>sync schedule
so i can basically only get my hotmail emails during the day, or when i want them, but there doesn't seem to be a similar option with outlooks direct push.
just wondering is it a possibility, or am i missing something simple?
many thanks
The reason why you can choose not to sync during the night with your hotmail is because you need to check periodically if there is new mail on hotmail, thus using the internet connection regularly.
Push mail works the other way around: whenever the server gets a message, it will contact your device and tell it that there's new mail.
I think that for stopping Pushmail from sending you mails at night you need to change a serverside setting, because it is the server that does the work.
thank you very much for your help mate
i'm with you now!
You can set the schedule of your Exchange email by going to Programs > ActiveSync> Menu > Schedule
In Schedule you can set how often to sync for peak and off-peak times, so what you would probably want to do is set your off-peak times to "Manually" or "Every 4 hours" etc.
At the bottom of the page there is a link that directs you to the page of adjusting the Peak Times.
Hope this helps you.
Cheers
Marcieking said:
The reason why you can choose not to sync during the night with your hotmail is because you need to check periodically if there is new mail on hotmail, thus using the internet connection regularly.
Push mail works the other way around: whenever the server gets a message, it will contact your device and tell it that there's new mail.
I think that for stopping Pushmail from sending you mails at night you need to change a serverside setting, because it is the server that does the work.
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Sorry but that's wrong.
Hotmail is now pushed to WM6.1 phones when you use the Live Wizard to set it up. (Other webmail emails will need a 3rd party app).
If your Outlook is Exchange Push, then you should have the same settings for both.

Push E-Mail?

Could someone please explain how push e-mail functions on the HD2, WinMo 6.5?
How is it set up?
Will it work with any mail service (for example Gmail Imap)?
How does it differ from having the mail program check for mail every half hour or so?
Email that is delivered directly to the phone, automatically, as they arrive in the users inbox.
There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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Thanks. I don't recall seeing that thread, but I'll look for it.
Does setting it reduce battery life a lot?
Is it as if the device is frequently going online to check for e-mail?
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There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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Do you mean the thread "Sync with Google"?
It involves installing a Google Sync app to the phone.
I'm not sure if I would want to do that. Probably a great reduction in battery life (as well as taking up memory), for the app to constantly check for new Google items to sync the phone with. (I wish I could figure out how to kill ActiveSync, so that it would only come on when I use it. I end it in TaskManager, and it starts right up again! Still worse if there were two such sync apps, constantly checking and syncing.
As far as it being Push, is it really? Would the Gmail server really know, every time one gets an e-mail, to send it to your phone?
Or, is it that Google Sync app, always running in the background, frequently checking online, to see whether a new piece of mail has comin in?
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
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Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
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Personal experience actually. Maybe I just had the schedule check for email too liberally but it does seem to last longer. Best guess is that while the data connection is on it is not actually transmitting or receiving anything.
I will grant you it could simply be subjective, but it is my experience.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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me said:
What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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Actually, at this time, my understanding is while you can have multiple email accounts you can only have 1 set up through exchange. I could be wrong, I haven't done in depth research.
Current reviews and reports say that Windows Phone 7 is supposed to support multiple exchange servers.. But we haven't actually seen it yet.
Vectre
I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
me said:
I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
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I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
Vectre said:
I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
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You mean the mail alerts from T-Mobile?
That is not something you set up on the phone, and has nothing to do with WinMo.
In fact, I had nothing to do, to set it up on my HD2. I had it set up already, worked on my previous (non winmo) phone, and it worked on my HD2, without any re-setting up.
You set it up at the T-Mobile web site. Log on to "My T-Mobile", with your user name and password, go to "configure e-mail". You can set up any e-mail accounts you have there--POP, IMAP, etc (including Gmail and others), and you can set it to send you a text alert for every e-mail received on any of the e-mail accounts you configure there.
It is completely phone-independent. Once set up, it will send those alerts to any phone you have, unless you turn it off. (If having a problem with it, call T-Mo CS.)

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