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IMAP E-mail client

Wat I would love to have is an IMAP E-mail client for my MDA II.
I've seen lots (and lots and then some) of POP3 E-mail clients somewhat modified to speak IMAP; but i have so far not seen an IMAP E-mail client. One that scans a folder when you select it and then stay connected instead of getting all headers over and over again each time you want to check for new mail. Only fetching the message when i want to read it etc etc
In short an e-mail client for imap like imap was intended to be used would do wonders for my gprs bill
Is there such a programm

read these ?
http://www.okspain.com/docs/imap/pocketpc2002.htm
http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/imap/npop.htm
found from this search
http://www.google.dk/search?client=...da&q=pocketpc+IMAP+&meta=&btnG=Google-søgning

read these ?
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Now I have, they contain howeven no information. I know how to configure poutlook for IMAP and I personaly have not tried nPOP because i'm loking for an IMAP-client not a modified pop client who tries to download everything again each time in the FAQ of the page you linked to <a ref="http://www.okspain.com/docs/faqparts/ExternalMail.htm#ExternalIMAPVsPOP">
Why should I use IMAP? What is the difference between POP and IMAP?</a>
poutlook generated 0.5-0.7Mb of trafic just to check my e-mail (because eacht time if tries to get an compleet folder list and I have quite some folders)
A true e-mail client could scan INBOX at startup and keep connected at less than 1K per day.

Any way to Config OUTLOOK to send/ Receive?

Hey all.
At home I've my desktop outlook setup to my pop3 email.
Is there anyway to set this account so I can send/ receive to see if there is new mail - or (as I think is the case) do I have to setup a separate pop 3 account to be able to initialize send/receive.
Cheers fellaz!
lr

little_rock said:
Hey all.
At home I've my desktop outlook setup to my pop3 email.
Is there anyway to set this account so I can send/ receive to see if there is new mail - or (as I think is the case) do I have to setup a separate pop 3 account to be able to initialize send/receive.
Cheers fellaz!
lr
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I was asking the same question on other forums, but it seems that no1 considers this as a "normal" question; I have never got a reply...

When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......

airbag14 said:
When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......
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You do make sense, but… you have just explained to us what we’ve already knew. I would just like to have normal SEND/RECEIVE in pOutlook without having to setup the same thing on the side (my Yahoo pop3). And after that they could synchronize normally…
I hope that I made some sense now…
:?

Yup perfect sense,
the phrase that airbag14 was looking for was:
'no you can't, not to our knowledge'
Gareth

airbag14 said:
When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......
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Or just use exchange

www.4smartphone.com

I struggled for quite some time to make email work 'properly' on using my MDA Pro.
First, note that I use Outlook on the desktop. My situation is complicated because I have multiple accounts that I want to sync.
What I found was:
1. Syncing desktop & pocket outlook mail is useless, unless one uses exchange. There is no way to send and receive mail short of syncing with the desktop. And given that activesync 4 cannot sync over the net, means that messages I want to send are stored until I manage to get close to my desktop. Totally stupid design. Someone must have been smoking illegal substances when s/he came up with it.
2. Switching both desktop and PPC to POP sort-of works, but there are severe problems. The first is that a pop account on the PPC is completely separate from the outlook-synced account, so messages appear twice on the PPC. The second is that if either the desktop or the PPC delete messages off server, then the other device gets confused. Copying a message to another folder on the PPC causes the message to be removed from the server, so that it never arrives in the desktop. Read message indications are not reliable. etc etc.
3. Switching to IMAP on both the desktop and the PPC works the best. One ends up with a set of IMAP folders on both the desktop and PPC, separate from the 'normal' outlook inbox (which are no longer used). Operations on either the desktop or PPC are reflected in the other device when mail is checked. Of course, it is absolutely imperative that both devices download messages, not just headers.
So, in the end I have a set of IMAP folders on both devices for each account. Both devices are set up to download messages + headers. The desktop downloads the entire message + attachments. The PPC downloads 15K of the message and no attachments. Deleting a message on one deletes on the other (when mail is checked). Reading a message on one caused the message to be marked 'read' on the other.
Messages sent from the PPC show up in desktop outlook's IMAP sent items folder. The reverse is not true, because desktop outlook puts sent messages into a generic 'sent items' folder, not the IMAP one. This is not a problem for me.
I have turned off activesync for all mail folders, because sync is done using IMAP. I still use activesync for contacts etc.
FWIW, IMAP in desktop outlook has a few problems. The worst is that sometimes it decides to duplicate a message. IMAP is also a bit more sensitive to network glitches, "disconnecting" from the server and requiring outlook to be restarted to reconnect. In addition, as messages are left on the server more-or-less permanently, one might run into quota problems.

mailbox copy
I stumbled on this mailbox problem here again.
I got exactly this issue, as my provider gives me Pop3 (can't get imap to work), and I cant reply on mails when i'm out (outlook mailbox has no send-receive)
Now I figured out, that in case if I COULD do an mail-box copy on my device from outlook-inbox to anonther account inbox, and before syncing do and send-items-box copy back to outlook send-items-box, this would solve a BIG part of my problem.
Has anyone EVER heard of an app that can let you copy whole mailboxes between accounts on your PPC device?

I also posted this question befor but to be sure are you all saying in a round about way.........
i ave a pop email account on my laptop, this i sync with a cable to my Exec, And on my Exec i also have a pop3 account the same account as on my laptop....
so if i am out ( and my laptop is not on) i use the pop3 account on my Exec for sending and recieving mail no problem, BUT if whilst out i see from my Sync,ed email from the laptop befor i left in the morning a email i need to repley i cant, i wish i could read the email then tell it to reply / send via the proper pop account on my Exec not the sync account
Do you all have this problem
Thanks
John

I prolly dont understand the problem fully, because I think it has a simple answer. On your PPC dont sync the mail from outlook through activesync but set up a new (p-outlook) pop3 account with the parameters from the pop3 outlook account (minus the smtp-server offcourse, this should be the smtp of your phone operator). I have this setup and can send/recieve mail on my MDA Pro. When I get home I recieve all mail from that day on my pc, storing it on my pc. At the next send/recieve on my MDA Pro, all the mail collected by the pc will dissapear (on the MDA Pro) and new mail will arrive. If you want you can sync the outlook mail with your PPC but it will function as a old-mail-database next to your p-outlook pop3 account.

what I did was:
1. I Created a new mail account - POP3 - and configured it to be read just in O2 exec.
2. I configured my mail account to forward all mail to the mail account I created for the PDA, and also keep messages in my mail account, so I can read them in my PC as well.
3. I dont SYNC mails, just check them by using WIFI/GPRS/3G.
This is not very "polite" but works for me. anohter solution, IMAP, another, REAL MAIL from Vodafone.

Email - leave message on the server?

I have just received a Vario11 and setting up email I see there is no setting for this in the same way there is in Outlook desktop versions or Outlook Express.
Searching the forum and wiki, there are lots of posts about this, but they all seem to be inconclusive.
My only experience so far has been with a Dell PDA winmob5 and I'm sure it had this setting.
I am using pop3 email from an account the same as you would get from Freeserve and many others. I want to be able to ensure all mail received on the account gets to the desktop at some point, and only when travelling with the Vario will it be downloading email and replying/sending. Sent messages would be nice to get onto the desktop as well instead of having to copy the email to myself.
Testing it; I just tried downloading an email on the Vario and a copy seemed to stay on the server which I have been able to download to the desktop. So maybe it is default set to always leave on the server.
But what happens with active sync? I'm reluctant to test this without more understanding of what goes which way and what happens if messages are deleted on either device.
My desktop Outlook pst is approaching 1gb, so maybe I need to achive and tidy it up before I sync?
Is there a comprehensive post anywhere, or a good website that spells all this out?
Any other recommendations for use in my situation would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hi, I use gmail, and there is a setting on the prefrences at the gmail site to keep messages on the server and most by default do, I don't use active sync to sync my mail, so I get mail on my tytn with gprs, and if I had a home pc connection, I could just run my mail client on the desktop to check my mail, and I would have all the same messages, not sure if that was what you were wanting to accomplish or not.

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..............Testing it; I just tried downloading an email on the Vario and a copy seemed to stay on the server which I have been able to download to the desktop. So maybe it is default set to always leave on the server......
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I found that downloading leaves email on the server. However, deleting mail on the HTc TyTN, also deletes the mail on the server at the next download.

[SEEKING ADVICE] - "push" mail

Hi mates,
I'm sure this question have been asked before, but I just cannot find a keyword to search for the answer. Would appreciate if you guys could answer here or direct me to the appropriate thread (or at least give me a hint on the keyword please - THANKS!)
ok. I was trying out emoze to get "push mail", but to do that, I need a 24/7 PC that is connected to the internet 24/7..
and I just realised that with my WM6 838PRO (Hermes), in the email settings, I could actually set it to check emails at a predetermined time (ie. every 10mins, 30mins etc..)
now, if anybody have already compared the data usage (cost), assuming its the same email (with the same amount of text) that arrives via emoze and WM6's email function.. and also assuming in both cases, it is set to every 10mins, could you tell me which one would cost less? (data usage)
and also whether the battery consumption would be the same?
with this WM6's email scheduled checking, is this MS DirectPush? or DirectPush is something else altogether?
THANKS SO MUCH !!
Regards,
[Charles]

I know this isn't a direct answer, but I would avoid emoze at all costs. The PC connector version requires you have your PC running and Outlook open at all times (unless you have an Exchange server and can use the Outlook Web Access version) and the application is hopelessly unstable. Have a look at my posts in the emoze support forum. Requests for help end up in an endless loop and then just disappear without resolution.
WM6 has true push email through MS Direct Push, which at present (I think) only works for Hotmail/Windows Live accounts. Other POP3 accounts can be set up in Pocket Outlook with a timed mail-check setting. In practice I have found that to work only intermittently.
It depends on whether you want the service to allow you to read your emails or reply as well. I am more concerned about reading them, so my solution was to set my corporate email account to auto-forward to my Hotmail account, which is then pushed instantly to my XDA. It's not a perfect solution at all (and a bit ridiculous to have Hotmail providing corporate mail) but the third-party solutions just don't seem ready as yet. I have tried a few and all have serious stability issues. Emoze is, however, the worst of the available offerings, IMHO.

I'm surprised more people haven't already responded.
Head over to http://live.mail2web.com and get a free Live account with them. Then, forward your regular email to that email address and set up your phone to use Direct Push with your mail2web account. Easy as sleep.
It's really push email, really fast, really FREE. Obviously, if you want any kind of email service on your phone, make sure you have a data plan that will support that much data transfer.

Hi mates,
Thanks for responding.
Although I am a cheapo (looking for free services), but i also need my receipients to see my domain's email address. I think mail2web allows some form of POP3 mail checking, but every email replied is from <myname>@mail2web.com ..
I don't mind the advertisements at the bottom of the emails (like what emoze does), but i cannot keep a PC 24/7 connected permanently..
I've been "testing" (trying) emoze for some time, and yes, it is not exactly stable. it crashed a couple of times.. ran outlook permanently in my PC (not running a server OS, just plain 'o Win XP) for a couple of weeks, and it did crashed once too.
for the past day, i've been using the Pocket Outlook to do the "pushmail" at atimed interval. it's actually pulling, not pushing.. only setback is, i can't set peak/off-peak times ..
guess beggars can't be chooser ya?
btw, i set Message download limit to 1Kb, and when i receive a email that states "3/28K", so the actual email is 28Kb, but what is "3" ? can't be 3Kb, right?
THANKS!!

Unfortunately, I have not found ANY service (push or otherwise) that will give you the "proxy address" capability that you want (making the email look like it came from your domain) for free. Inexpensive, yes....but not free.
You can sign up for mail2web's "enhanced email" plan ($4.99/month), which still gives you push mail, but adds proxy address options and pop/imap access, but for $6.99/month you can get a 1&1 personal exchange plan over at 1&1.com that gives you all of that PLUS full Exchange hosting (meaning you can hook into the Exchange server with your desktop Outlook 2003/2007 to syncrhonize with your handheld).
I actually am currently using the latter option for myself. You can get push mail for free, but not with the proxy address you want (you get what you pay for unfortunately).

I've been happily using the Pocket Outlook for "pull mail". I set it to check my pop3 account every 30mins.
so far so good. no missed emails for about a week!!
Since it is my own pop3 email account, replies all come from my own email domain name. professional!!
only issue is, i can't specify peak and off-peak time (ie. peak hour = every 30 min, off-peak = every 60 min or 2hrs) ..
if that could be done, i'll be very glad!

mail2web html
With mail2web I cant specify html. Only "Plain Text" message format is possible. Any ideas.
Thank you

Disappearing emails with Gmail(workaround)

I was having some setup issues with Gmail pop; I’ve found a workaround so thought I’d share it.
I like to check my email regularly with the HD2 throughout the day, but manage the majority of these through Outlook when I get home. So on my HD2 I set up a pop mail account to check my Gmail at regular intervals (5 mins), get the entire message but leave a copy of the message on the server so I can still access these with Outlook later.
Problem was whenever the HD2 downloaded an email despite the setup being configured to leave the message on the server these mails were marked “as read” by Gmail and archived, presumably because my Gmail account was set to “archive emails that have been accessed through pop”. This was clearly overriding the “leave a copy on the server” setting. So I’d get an email on my device, this was then automatically removed from the Gmail inbox and archived, 5 minutes later the HD2 would check again, see the inbox was empty and therefore delete the email from my device. Outlook never got a look in as when I got home all the emails had been archived so it was seeing no emails at all.
Hence the disappearing email problem.
Firstly I tried changing the Gmail setting to “keep Google mails copy in the inbox when it had been accessed by pop”, this worked to a degree but I found it slightly irritating having to go in and manually erase all the emails in my Gmail inbox once I had downloaded them.
I then tried enabling imap in Gmail and binning pop access altogether, i.e., accessing all my emails through imap both on the HD2 and on Outlook. Again this worked to a degree but I have Outlook set up a particular way and I found that imap didn’t really work for me in that regard.
Eventually I sussed getting it to work the way I want, I set up both pop and imap access in Gmail. I had the HD2 accessing mails through imap, and Outlook accessing through pop (with the setting for ” archiving emails once accessed through pop” enabled in Gmail). So the HD2 would accrue all the emails that I received throughout the day and keep these in the Gmail inbox so when I fired up Outlook at home these were still there to be downloaded. Of course once I had retrieved these emails through Outlook these were automatically archived by Gmail and only then were they removed from the HD2 then next time it checked the server, which was fine as they had been dealt with and were no longer required, perfect!
So that’s been my weekend really, hope it helps anyone that wants a similar setup.

POP is the wrong method for your interest.
POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it.
You only need to use IMAP method to leave a copy on the server.
Just that easy.
You could have saved a lot time if you only setup imap in your email settings in the phone.
All other stuff was completely too much. Sorry
Im using that method since i had the Touch HD and still use it with Gmail on the HD2 and my mails stay on the huuuuuuge google servers too.

Undoubtedly imap has its advantages, certainly on the phone its working well for me.
You did raise a point:
"POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it"
Should this happen when the you have set-up an account on the device thats configured to "do not delete messages from the server"? Because despite my account being set-up this way my emails were being deleted (or archived, either way, disappeared!) nevertheless. That's specifically why i wanted to detail why I did what I did as I'm sure this issue could catch other people out.

POP is designed to catch mails AND clean up your email account on the server.
This makes sense when you have limited storage space (i have an arcor account too and have only 25mb on there).
From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option.
This is mostly the reason that the emails get deleted when using POP.
IMAP is designed to give you the opportunity to have a look at your emails like on the server.
When you read an email on your pda the mail will be automatically flagged as read on the server too.
It is some kind of sync.
There are these two well known ways just to give you the opportunity and fulfil your needs. Just use the one that serves you well.
In your case this will be IMAP

"From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option"
When i was setting up the account on the HD2 I was ticking this option to leave message on server upon deletion (see screen shot), although it seems i was misunderstanding this function.

Yeah the function you checked was only for the deleted mails.
It just tells the server what to do with the mails that you deleted on your device.

Sounds good, I'd just replace imap access on the HD2 with activesync, even better.
I'm interested in what your "weird configuration in outlook that makes you not able to use imap" is though.