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new to wifi - quick question

sorry for the newb questions but couldn't find an answer searching and figured someone who knows would be able to give an answer easily
the question is, when in the office, sitting near my laptop (dell lat 620 w wifi) I connect my phone to the wifi network 'wfield1' and the display on the laptop turns green, and the phone shows the little antenna signifying wifi connectivity. ok- now does this mean
a) that all data sent/rec'd will not appear on cingulars bill?
b) will my works firewall (vpn) infringe upon my browsing (ie if I hit a blocked site will it say blocked on my phone?)
I originally thought it would but I turned wifi on and walked away from my laptop and realized that the wifi connection stayed on throughout the building so therefore it has nothing to do with my laptops connection to our vpn server then right?
if so, c) would I be able to use the phones wifi connection and then usb tether the phone to the laptop to browse on the laptop off the firewall and off cingulars rate charges? I have unlim anyway but keeping usage down seems worth the small step it takes to tether
hopefully I am at least a little accurate in my guesses and not way off wack. if anyone could drop some knowledge on me id appreciate it

Your phone's connection to WIFI has nothing to do with your laptop. It should connect to your WIFI router in your office. Your phone should display a different symbol on the top line of the LCD, rather than your regular "antenna" symbol.
You need to check the above before you can confirm if you are actually connected to your WIFI router.

When you are on WIFI, it is subjected to the same firewall regulations as your laptop

yes it changes from the normal "phone" antenna to the wifi icon, i do know that much.
however i'm still unsure of whether or not it is using routered data vs cingular data. i think it is using the wifi data because as i said it is showing the wifi symbol and not the E or G that shows up when connected to cingulars service
and i think i mispoke, i dont actually use the wifi on the laptop to connect to the internet. i need to dial up with a verizon card, and it connects that way, and also launches a VPN which i think is what regulates the internet usage.
i am less worried about the routers firewall than i am my (proxy?) servers abilty to record sights that i visit, ie the forums/ebay. if i visit those on wifi and my server could see that (not worried about the wifi router seeing it since i am in different offices a lot), i will just stick with using GPRS/EDGE. confusing? sorry

If it was using Cingular data, you would get a message that your phone is 'Connecting to Cingular GPRS' ..in which case you would be billed, you don't get billed for using wifi because you are NOT using cingulars network to connect to the internet, you are using your own.

after checking it again, it seems that i cannot get to the iinternet with the wifi alone. i turned off the phone and had wifi enabled and could not connet to the internet.
so normally, if it wasn't a work firewalled network, wifi will let you get to the internet without being charged via cingular. got it, thanks all

hey i was going to do wifi connection to my work laptop too till i decided its pointless cause im sitting right in front of the thing and if i actually walked away from it its going to be a decent distance and the wifi wouldnt connect anyway.
besides theres not a whole lot you can do with the connection other than read a web page or browse a network folder.

Using the HD2 as a 3G modem for laptop: use bluetooth or the new Wifi router ?

In one hand, using the Wifi router is simple. On the other hand, Wifi draws more battery power than bluetooth...

How long do you intend to use it for as, in my opinion, both are a poor long-term solution due to the power draw.
Also, bluetooth may use less power but it will also create a bottleneck that will mean that you have to use it longer.

Yes both will eat power. Cable is much better, however if you have no choice then I'd use bluetooth it consumes a bit less power than wifi.
That said if you use Linux, as I do on some laptops, (and maybe Mac? I dont use.) you might have some trouble getting internet to flow through bluetooth, in which case wifi is better.

I would use WiFi, much easier to setup and use on the fly just as any wireless router is. In either case, I believe your best bet is to have it plugged in during use as power usage will be high either way!

The Wifi router of the HD2 only supports WEP.
That's a "no go" for me...

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The Wifi router of the HD2 only supports WEP.
That's a "no go" for me...
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Why not? What secrets do you have on your pc....and do you live in an apartment block surrounded by hackers?

I can plug my hd2 into my laptop and surf the net via mobile web. But how do i set it up so I can use the hd2 as a WiFi modem ?. Even with WiFi on, it still uses mobile web. Updating my laptop via my hd2 takes hours lol.
BTW I have WiFi router in my home.

fallenmonk said:
I can plug my hd2 into my laptop and surf the net via mobile web. But how do i set it up so I can use the hd2 as a WiFi modem ?. Even with WiFi on, it still uses mobile web. Updating my laptop via my hd2 takes hours lol.
BTW I have WiFi router in my home.
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You have to have the WiFi router app. Google XDA WiFi router for Windows Mobile you will find it. Oh and by the way just because it is WiFi does not mean it will increase the speed. The speed is dependant on your cellular data signal you know Edge or 3G.

I have never used the wi-fi app, and have had no need to do so so far. Bluetooth works two different ways--through DUN or PAN.
However, I could see certain situations where that could come in handy. FOr instance, with a device that cannot BT tether, but can access wi-fi--for instance if one has an Ipad

Wifi router working for anyone?

I have a vodafone uk hd2 and have been really impressed with it as a product. I have not had any luck with the supplied wifi router software, I go through the minimal setup and press start and as far as the phone is concerned the router is up and running, the problem i have is that neither of my laptops can see the router.
Has anyone had any luck using it? Is it possible that vodafone have disabled it somehow?
Alternatively so i can manually add the router does anyone have the following details that would be setup automatically;
wep in use? is it 128 pass phrase or 40/128 key?
open system authentication or shared key?
im guessing the wep index would be 1?
Thanks

Search .. it was discussed 10 times already.

Thats as maybe but none of the several threads have a real answer as to why some people have it working and others dont. It also seems that the functionality can be effected by soft reset which isnt ideal at all. Also i havent been able to find any of the above original settings that i asked for in the threads hence the post.

Works for me
Hi,
works great for me - just have to make sure that you're not connected to WLAN with the HD2 when trying. Disabling WLAN, then starting WIFI-Router does the trick for me.
Good luck !

I am on vodafone and wifi router works perfectly for me. It worked when I had the stock 1.43 rom and it works with all the cooked roms I have used since.

i did notice it only works with 802.11g not with 802.11b devices like PSP or some other phones..

Is that really the case that it only works with 802.11g devices? Im fairly sure my netbook isnt new enough to have 802.11g and as such probably wont see the router. Has anyone found a way to get the router visible to 802.11b devices?

Wonder if u have enable the N band function . I think Wi fi router will not work properly when it is enable. I did numerous testing with my laptop and iphone . When n band is enable on HD2 , Iphone can surf net thru HD2 but not the laptop . When n band is disable , device can connect no problem ..... So , to get wifi router to work , just have to stick with g band until someone can solve the issue .

Just to add on my previous post , I tried using WMWIFIRouter , also come back to same result ....

pagoda123 said:
Wonder if u have enable the N band function . I think Wi fi router will not work properly when it is enable. I did numerous testing with my laptop and iphone . When n band is enable on HD2 , Iphone can surf net thru HD2 but not the laptop . When n band is disable , device can connect no problem ..... So , to get wifi router to work , just have to stick with g band until someone can solve the issue .
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The N band doesn't work anyway on the HD2.. better turn it off.. just because there's a parameter in the registry doesn't mean it works..
I have a N router at home and while it looks like it's doing N and it states "auto" instead of 54mbs, it still connects to the narrow band channel on the router..

N Works
bel_z_bub said:
The N band doesn't work anyway on the HD2.. better turn it off.. just because there's a parameter in the registry doesn't mean it works..
I have a N router at home and while it looks like it's doing N and it states "auto" instead of 54mbs, it still connects to the narrow band channel on the router..
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N Works. I have a Linksys WRT320N router that can operate on N only, and the phone connects fine (at regular 2,4 ghz, the new 5 ghz doesn't work). Didn't speedtest.
I tried the standard sharing prog and wmwifi router (different versions) and can only, with a lot of effort, get my laptop on the net through the BT of my HD2. I have the N tweak on. Also did the trying in range of the router.

Any chance it's the computer you are trying to connect with? Tried with my work computer, but couldn't because our Dells have computer to computer(adhoc) connections locked out for security. Does the wifi router function show up as adhoc or access point?

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N Works. I have a Linksys WRT320N router that can operate on N only, and the phone connects fine (at regular 2,4 ghz, the new 5 ghz doesn't work). Didn't speedtest.
I tried the standard sharing prog and wmwifi router (different versions) and can only, with a lot of effort, get my laptop on the net through the BT of my HD2. I have the N tweak on. Also did the trying in range of the router.
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ok, now try and get N speed with only one antenna...

Ok Ive got a similar problem with the wifi router and vodafone
everything works hunky dory wifi router turns on, computer connects all is good only when i try and access a website i get a http error 403 forbidden message as if voda have restricted access i have no idea how this would be possible though.
Ive tried many site same result and many browsers chrome, safari, ie, firefox and opera
same thing
the strange part is that tweetdeck and skype work while the browsers don't
HHMMM
anyone else experienced this problem

As I'm on O2 I was quite keen to flash a new ROM to get the wifi router working as they did the dirty on us by ripping it out of the 1.43 they shipped it with...suffice to say that I'm not overly impressed with it after the couple of trials I've made using 1.66 ROM as the speeds its capable of generally fall short of what you get if you simply connect it via usb and use data sharing..bear in mind that I've only tried it twice so far and as such I may refine my opinion with further trials in different locations but as I was hoping to avoid repeatedly connecting leads to the usb socket it's a bit of a blow sooner or later, wear and tear will be an issue to think about.

my findings
had a play with the router, just to see and initially thought it wasn't working.it connected, but wouldn't pass any data.
25 minutes of my best network technician skillz later still no joy... that is until I remembered the laptop has a fixed ip and default dns server address set. as soon as I set them to automatic, bingo, fully working.
did a speed test from the laptop (mobilespeedtest.com) and got just under 900kbit over 3g. winner!
The connection only shows as 802.11b, but that's fast enough for the 3g connection so no worries.
the only down side is that it's adhoc, so the wifes n95 doesn't see it..but then again thats possibly a blessing In disguise!
EDIT as mentioned by the poster below, I had three connections present, (wap.o2.co.uk, mobile.o2.co.uk and paymonthly.o2.co.uk) and the router wouldn't work on them all, though I forget now which it would and which it wouldn't.

I never tried with 1.43 O2 ROM, but after flashing to 1.66 stock rom I just tried this.
For some reason I have 3 internet connection options:
1) Pay monthly contract
2) o2 active
3) mobile web
My standard connection is "mobile web" so I tried this first, and my laptop couldnt see the HD2 as a WIFI router. I then tried the "pay monthly contract" option and it worked straight away.
Now under my Notifications screen under O2 3G UK, I have two connections running, and the download speeds running the same as my home broadband due to the HSPA connectivity available through the phone.
Anyway, I just thought I would share this with anyone it may help.

Sharing a WM ICS connection in a Wifi (adhoc) network

I figured out that using my Imagio as a WiFi Router drains the battery faster than it can charge. This is bad for a sometimes day-long connection using low bandwidth sites (live blogging for hours on CoverItLive.com).
Typically, I use the Imagio when WiFi isn't available, or is flat out ridiculously priced ($thousands in some convention centers).
I have to work with my partner, who also needs a connection, and sharing it would be oh so convenient using WiFi. So I thought, why not share my Imagio's connection by using Internet Connection Sharing on my computer through the WiFi. Not so fast: all ICS uses a fixed IP of 192.168.0.1. Conflict city when you try to use ICS twice in the same daisy chain.
"So", says I, "why not use Network Bridging to accomplish the same thing?". Well, this works in getting the signal to my partner's machine. She can internet beautifully. But, it turns out, my machine can't access the Internet anymore so long as the Imagio's ICS is bridged to the machine's built in WiFi. Take it out of the bridge, it works on my machine but not my partner's. Put it in the bridge, it doesn't on my machine, but it does on my partner's.
Anyone have any insight as to how this can be accomplished. Imagio ICS via USB to computer A, computer A's Wifi set in ad-hoc mode to be used as a router to get Internet to computer B, both machines being able to access the Internet.
Also, USB-Modem works with ICS on the laptop, but it uses dial-up, and the problem with that is that if you stop using it for a certain period of time, it loses the connection, which can screw up things royally. ICS is much more consistent.
There has to be a way that bridging can be used without taking the Imagio's ICS out of that computer's universe.
None of this would be a problem if she got a WM phone instead of the LG Touch (which requires a hefty monthly plan to use it as a modem).
Thanks to any who know more about this than me or have some other ideas.
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You can configure ICS on the phone to use a different IP range (probably also possible on the PC but don't know how).
So then you can use Phone->ICS->USB->ComputerA->ICS->Wi-Fi->ComputerB
WMWifiRouter uses 192.168.3.x instead of .0.x by default. I think this can also be configured using ICS Control.

frankenbike said:
I figured out that using my Imagio as a WiFi Router drains the battery faster than it can charge. This is bad for a sometimes day-long connection using low bandwidth sites (live blogging for hours on CoverItLive.com).
Typically, I use the Imagio when WiFi isn't available, or is flat out ridiculously priced ($thousands in some convention centers).
I have to work with my partner, who also needs a connection, and sharing it would be oh so convenient using WiFi. So I thought, why not share my Imagio's connection by using Internet Connection Sharing on my computer through the WiFi. Not so fast: all ICS uses a fixed IP of 192.168.0.1. Conflict city when you try to use ICS twice in the same daisy chain.
"So", says I, "why not use Network Bridging to accomplish the same thing?". Well, this works in getting the signal to my partner's machine. She can internet beautifully. But, it turns out, my machine can't access the Internet anymore so long as the Imagio's ICS is bridged to the machine's built in WiFi. Take it out of the bridge, it works on my machine but not my partner's. Put it in the bridge, it doesn't on my machine, but it does on my partner's.
Anyone have any insight as to how this can be accomplished. Imagio ICS via USB to computer A, computer A's Wifi set in ad-hoc mode to be used as a router to get Internet to computer B, both machines being able to access the Internet.
Also, USB-Modem works with ICS on the laptop, but it uses dial-up, and the problem with that is that if you stop using it for a certain period of time, it loses the connection, which can screw up things royally. ICS is much more consistent.
There has to be a way that bridging can be used without taking the Imagio's ICS out of that computer's universe.
None of this would be a problem if she got a WM phone instead of the LG Touch (which requires a hefty monthly plan to use it as a modem).
Thanks to any who know more about this than me or have some other ideas.
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FB
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I use WM WiFirouter, it is a great program with multiple different configurations. I use it at home on an old IPAQ hooked to my PC as a wireless router so my kids can use the internet on their laptops.

WM WiFi Router was my first choice. Note the point I made that the battery drains faster than it can recharge. This becomes something of a problem after an hour or so.
Sadly, I got the connection sharing option to work now on the laptop using ICS control, but it seems to disconnect the WiFi ad-hoc network. And doesn't actually share through the WiFi. I suspect this is a problem with the way the WiFi on the laptop works, since I had the same problem with Network Bridging, and had to run a Dos script to enable the WiFi. It only works when bridging is being used, so I have to find the equivalent for when bridging isn't being used but ICS is.
I don't suppose anyone knows anything about *that*?
EDIT: I just downloaded the latest version of WMWifiRouter, which has USB connection support and seems to be a whole lot more reliable in general. AND IT WORKS with connection sharing, the laptop WiFi works as a router, and it DOES solve my problems. Thanks for the suggestion that made me reconsider it again.
EDIT +1: Still uses up the battery faster than it charges. Not as fast as WiFi though. WMWifiRouter is a pretty amazing connection sharing tool kit with USB, BT and WiFi connectivity and lots of control without the weird IP address pathologies. Amazing that it also gets around my laptop's weird connection sharing WiFi pathology as well. Another nice thing is the "keep connection alive" ping feature, and the real time power status and information. They really try to pack a lot of useful stuff for your $20.

Wi-fi not working

After connecting to 3 different wireless connections and none of then working, I'm concluded that my wifi isn't working.
I go to settings and check wifi on, it finds the network, connects, but I lose my entire data connection for the duration wifi is turned on!
Is anyone else having this problem?
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant

I'm having the same issues with the wifi. I downloaded wifi analyzer to make sure I was on a good channel. Set it to the best channel and my signal strength is 100%. I will be able to connect for a little bit but for some reason it goes in and out, connection unsuccessful, yada yada yada. I messed with all the troubleshooting solutions for my router (dgl-4300) but nothing works. If anyone can reply with a fix or point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated.

Same Issues
Any help is greatly appreciated. Data working fine when on 3G but Wifi = no data. Connection is fine, IP is fine.
UPDATE: It's working again on my home WIFI. Will have to see if it's just an "at work" issue. Hopefully IT can assist.

Same problem with Verizon MiFi
I have had ZERO problems connecting to the Linksys access points we have setup at my home and my office, but recently my work provided me with a Verizon MiFi (as well as an iPad - don't hate ) and I've had MANY issues trying to get my Vibrant to consistently connect to the MiFi.
My iPad, Motorola Droid, and Laptop have no issues connecting to the MiFi.
On my Vibrant I'm running the 2.1 stock ROM with root & the latest ClockWork recovery.
It will "connect" to the MiFi (I use quotes because I can't really tell - it AT LEAST receives an IP). But I'm unable to send and receive data. I can't even browse to the MiFi's internal configuration page .
To FINALLY get it to connect consistently I have to do some kind of random combo toggling the wifi off and back on and then turning the MiFi off and back on and it will EVENTUALLY connect and stay connected with data flowing freely.
I've customized my configuration a little bit on the MiFi so I'm going to reset it back to factory and not change the config to see if it makes a difference - because at lunch I was able to connect to my boss' MiFi with no problem. I'm thinking it may either be the phone or the mifi...

I've connected to about 10 different wireless networks with NO issues, at all. The connectivity is actually much better than my G1/Nexus.
HOWEVER, last night at a bar I was connected to their wifi, strong signal, but I was not able to use Data. I was in a very poor reception area for T-Mobile... don't think that could be an issue, bit the other places I use wi-fi that is not the case.
I just chalked it up as a fluke and moved on. Not sure what was wrong.

I had this happen to me today. I just rebooted and it went away. Toggling wifi didn't help, but I only tried it once. The phone reboots so quick I figured I'd give it a try.

I have set the phone up manually with static ip. Seems like its a problem with the dhcp.

robnil said:
I have set the phone up manually with static ip. Seems like its a problem with the dhcp.
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I'm gonna try this.
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