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Telus HTC touch/Elf GPS trouble

With the new Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade is available for the Telus HTC touch, we can now have access to the GPS function. Witch is great. The only problem, I kneed to use the Telus Navigator program in order for my GPS to work.
Other program will work but only after enabling the GPS by starting Telus Navigator.
The 2 other program I'm trying to configure are : Google maps and GPS Tuner.
Both work, but not before I turn on the Telus GPS program, even if I set the port manually.
Is there any buddy els with that same problem ?

Salut alex
I have the HTC Touch from Telus (wich is the Vogue by the way, not the Elf, that's the GSM version ( from Rogers))
I have acces to my GPS from Google maps without having to open Telus Navigator or any other software. You just have to make sure you have a data session active. Just move the map in google around so it will connect the data and you should be good to go!
Also, of course, make sure you have checked the "use GPS" function!
Oh! Remember that the phone needs to see the sky to detect satellites! It won't work well inside...

Guys... check out this thread which I started once the leaked rom was released.. In it you will find directions to fully activate your gps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus

Thanks Guys.
I spent two days searching post on finding a way to make it work. For a reason I dont know, I could not activate my GPS without the Telus navigator. And it seams I'm not the only one.
The best way I found is true GPS gate. A software the activate your GPS port. Then I could use any GPS program I installed.
Still trying out a programs to find the best one that suites me tho !

Problems with new IGO 8.31

I have one big problem. I am using Polaris/HTC Touch Cruise with latest WM 6.1 offical release. I have installed IGO 8.31. I have constantly GPS signal losing. GPS signal (all satelites)just disappear and then is back. About 30 sec I have GPS signal and then is about 30 sec.with no GPS signal. Basicly this software works just fine on my Polaris, but I can't use software because of this GPS signal disappearing problem.
Google maps works just fine, with no GPS signal dissapearing problem. I have 3-7 satelites all the time.
So I think that there is not problem with my device. I think that there is some problem with com ports.
Can somebody please help me
Thanks in advance.

Maybe a radio problem with your ROM. There is a newer ons... its in M'amine ROM post..: 1.59.42.23

Hard Reset
Some time (most of the times ) you need to consider one of the options:
1. Hard reset and before reconfigure your device - see if the IGO works fine
2. change ROM - since different ROM behave differently regurding your device
3. upgrade to IGO 8.0.4 - since 8.0.3 is known as problematic since 6.1

He means iGo 8.3, not 8.0.3 There is such a release but IT'S ONLY FOR PNA. Some ppl got it working on PDA, but well....many things don't work as expected. Animated menus crash the program etc. So go back to 8.0.4 and forget about those 07.08 maps for some weeks

Maybe upgrading the radio ROM might help...

forget the version 8.31
use the 8.0.0.54000
this works
the new version hav a lot of bugs and can't use the generic skins, maps, ....
there are more bugs as the version 8.0.0.54000
you ca trust me
(i test the new version for 2 days .....)
cu camel

camro said:
forget the version 8.31
use the 8.0.0.54000
this works
the new version hav a lot of bugs and can't use the generic skins, maps, ....
there are more bugs as the version 8.0.0.54000
you ca trust me
(i test the new version for 2 days .....)
cu camel
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Bullsjit! The 8.3.xxxx version is way better then the previous one. I suggest u do a hard reset, install iGO8.3 and see if it works...
Upgrade your radio to version 1.59.42.23. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379599 I use Khanx 1.4 with igo8.3xxx and TT7 and it works perfectly.
Maps is no problem: just follow this link: http://http://volny.cz/sstopar/mio_mapy_igo8.html and download the 2008.07 maps. They only works with Igo8.3xxx
For plugins en speedcams check this site:
http://http://www.i-go8.com/
Hope it works; otherwise PM me for some additional "questions".

Thanks guys for all answers.
I tested almost all 6.1 ROMs and both radios.
The problem is same with all ROMs an radios.
I prefer 8.31, because of Slovenia 08.07 map. This map have 72% coverage for Slovenia. Is almost perfect and works just with 8.31 version of IGO.
All earlier maps have about 40% coverage.
And I really have no more ideas why is this GPS problem.
And yes, 8.31 version is best till now. This version have some "reality view".
Someone told me that I must completely dissable A-GPS function, but in registry I can see that A-GPS is set to 0. So I think that already is dissabled.

gregy74 said:
Thanks guys for all answers.
I tested almost all 6.1 ROMs and both radios.
The problem is same with all ROMs an radios.
I prefer 8.31, because of Slovenia 08.07 map. This map have 72% coverage for Slovenia. Is almost perfect and works just with 8.31 version of IGO.
All earlier maps have about 40% coverage.
And I really have no more ideas why is this GPS problem.
And yes, 8.31 version is best till now. This version have some "reality view".
Someone told me that I must completely dissable A-GPS function, but in registry I can see that A-GPS is set to 0. So I think that already is dissabled.
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I am using iGo 8.3.1 (sep25) with new maps and don't have any problems, working perfectly fine. Better than version 8.0.0.54000, which used to crash a lot and never worked. Using udK's R0 and radio that came with that.

Hi, everyone, I'm using the latest touch navia 1.4 pro and the iGO 8.3.1, the program seems to install fine, but hangs on for forever every time I try to run it. The radio is 1.59.42.23 and the only thing that comes to my mind is that i've put some of the content from (neither maps nor poi's) the previous version into this one, can anyone suggest something else to get it working?

Try a clean install. iGo 8.3 works perfectly for me with KhanX 1.4 Navia ROM.

Alright, worked as a clean install (with a file downloaded from a different source) after a hard reset. This was a really clean install - all the additional files (maps, buildings, etc) were added later, and it works. Thanks for advice

Sorry, don't work with clean install and Knax 1.4 ROM.
How can I completely dissable A-GPS?
Thanks

Hi guys.
I found solution for my problem.
Seems that this version of Igo don't keep GPS signal active (problem with internal GPS). You must run some another application in background, google maps,holdux,... to keep GPS signal active all the time.
But the easiest way is this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17072
Thanks for help

gregy74 said:
Hi guys.
I found solution for my problem.
Seems that this version of Igo don't keep GPS signal active (problem with internal GPS). You must run some another application in background, google maps,holdux,... to keep GPS signal active all the time.
But the easiest way is this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17072
Thanks for help
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Strange.. i dont have this problem...

I also have IGO 8.31 and I confirm that it works fine on my Polaris.... there is indeed a number of bugs but compared to 8.0 it's better.

i was testing igo 8.3.1 and i have to admit, that maps are impressive
i had no any problems with software stability, connection loosing or so
only thing i had to change was keeping tc alive - change setting responsible for power management in igo (default was stupid...)
unfortunately gps was inaccurate and had huge delay - sa there was no point to use it at all for example even with "high accuracy" my position on map ware jumping around my real location for few hundred meters (with or without "keep on road" setting active) and, on the move, igo was showing were i was about 15 sec ago (kinda off...)
definitely that's not stable version for pda
strongly unrecommend

nimal said:
i was testing igo 8.3.1 and i have to admit, that maps are impressive
i had no any problems with software stability, connection loosing or so
only thing i had to change was keeping tc alive - change setting responsible for power management in igo (default was stupid...)
unfortunately gps was inaccurate and had huge delay - sa there was no point to use it at all for example even with "high accuracy" my position on map ware jumping around my real location for few hundred meters (with or without "keep on road" setting active) and, on the move, igo was showing were i was about 15 sec ago (kinda off...)
definitely that's not stable version for pda
strongly unrecommend
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that's what i said on post 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2882539&postcount=6
well - some guys thinking to knowing it better ...
of course , there are some good features .. but more new bugs .... and forgotten fixing of old bugs ... ;-(

I used iGO 8.3.1 series for a week but just had to revert back to the older versions. On the whole it worked OK, no bugs, and I love the way it would display the large road signs when passing junctions on major roads, but, it was the routing, it was completely bizarre. Everything was set-up as with earlier versions but it used to take me, or try to take me completely different ways, and not even by a little, I mean major diversions within my town where I've lived all my life, and thus its usage became unbearable.
Hopefully this was just a 'one-off' so I'll give later versions a try when released.

how do you guys use gps?

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
crankshaft said:
Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
crankshaft said:
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

crankshaft said:
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

touch hd gps

Hi
i have read in a few other posts regarding GPS issues and Sat Nav software not working
now i have seen a few programs that 'kick off' the GPS and then runs the program and i have run these to no avail,
i was wondering if anyone else has not only had this issue but struggled to get it working, google maps seems to pick me up via GPS but tomtom is saying 'no gps device' go into settings within tomtom and set to internal gps device, and check gps status and no cannot see any satellites. i have had the phone outside inthe line of sight of the sky for an hour so me being inpatient isn't the issue, any help would be greatly appreciated
ta

Try this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/GPS/GPS-Test-34335.shtml
Update QuickGPS.
If no satellites show up after a max of 5mins of you standing outside with clear view of the sky, then you either need to flash another radio or the gps is dead.

hi
thanks
have left phone outside running that, seems to be scanning com1-9..pausing for a second on port 3 then continuing. will let you know in 10 mins, what is flashing another radio involve?
ta

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274

ok stupid question time, but if it google maps seems to be working ok would that not suggest that the GPS radio is ok, and secondly if i did flash which one would i go for on that link you sent
i have radio version 1.09.25.14 protocol 52.49a.25.261u
there is a link
Download 1.09.25.14 / 52.49a.25.26W Radio only Megepload
Download HD_Blackstone_Radio 1.09.25.14 (with RUU) 4shared
am i flashing this even though my protocol is different?
and there is about another 10 files below all them called
Blackstone Rilphone.dll Cabs
all confusing can you help any more please
thanks

I don't believe anything google maps says in relation to GPS after it told me one of my non GPS phones had inbuilt gps, and then calculated my position using the mobile phone network.
As for which you need, well it depends on which rom you are running, whether it's a stock rom (bog-standard rom you get on device when you buy it), or a custom cooked rom from someone on the forums. I suggest you read up on it thoroughly then post in the correct radio thread if you want to ask any more questions regarding the right radio version you need.

fair do's
thanks

Did you have google maps open when you started Tomtom? That may have caused an error

hi
thanks for reply, no i open google maps it seems to find my location. close google maps, then open tomtom and is saying no gps device. the 'onboard' gps device is set on tomtom options it's just as if the gps reciever isn't picking up, same in other sat nav progams too, garmin is the same so makes me think is phone not software issue

AFAIK, Google Maps is A-GPS software, while TomTom, iGO and others are full GPS software.
Don't know about TomTom, but iGO DOES NOT work if A-GPS is enabled...

hmmmm. i'll give it a whirl, not got the phone withme at the mo, a mate is attempting to simunock it, agps is enabled so i will disable it see if that helps. tempted to get rid and get an effing iphone at this rate

Let us know how you go....
Don't give up, it;s a great phone

had the same issue with tomtom v7.450. using tomtom v7.916 now and it's running like charm

Just had replacement Touch HD delivered from Orange this morning, flashed to my usual ROM, and get exactly the same symptoms as Pete did.....
Tried:
TomTom
Memory map
HTC GPS Tool
Updating QuickGPS
Updating Radio ROM to latest version
Reflashing different OS roms
nothing makes a difference.
Not really keen to take it apart as i'll break the VOID sticker and probably end up in an argument with Orange, but Id bet any money that the GPS cable has come loose......so frustrating as im working abroad as of next week and i'll really use the GPS a lot......
Also just found out that the replacement handset is "refurb".....I bet the muppet that refurbed it didnt reconnect the GPS cable

[Q] GPS doesn't work anymore

Hello androids,
I'm another n00b trying to kill my phone
I tried to flash some roms from this forum for my Tattoo, with different versions of OS (1.6, 2.1, 2.2). My preferences goes to Pancake 1.0.6; anyway I tried to see if all works and I get stuck with the GPS:
when I turn it on and start a navigator like NDrive or Navigon, they says "No GPS".
If I quit these programs, switch of the GPS from my tattoo and restart one of these programs (of course I tried one by one) they let my switch on the GPS receiver. Then back to the navigator, it tries to reach some satellite without an end. Also, there's no GPS icon in the topbar when the navigator, or another program that uses the GPS receiver, is working.
So I tried to switch back to a backup of my original rom without success. I also tried to flash another rom with 1.6 version like the original one, but without good results.
Can someone help me?

Yeaaah!
I've made a flash with the original rom for the HTC Tattoo and now it works!
Ok, let's retry some custom roms

pulu256 said:
Hello androids,
I'm another n00b trying to kill my phone
I tried to flash some roms from this forum for my Tattoo, with different versions of OS (1.6, 2.1, 2.2). My preferences goes to Pancake 1.0.6; anyway I tried to see if all works and I get stuck with the GPS:
when I turn it on and start a navigator like NDrive or Navigon, they says "No GPS".
If I quit these programs, switch of the GPS from my tattoo and restart one of these programs (of course I tried one by one) they let my switch on the GPS receiver. Then back to the navigator, it tries to reach some satellite without an end. Also, there's no GPS icon in the topbar when the navigator, or another program that uses the GPS receiver, is working.
So I tried to switch back to a backup of my original rom without success. I also tried to flash another rom with 1.6 version like the original one, but without good results.
Can someone help me?
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Good evening,
I have the same problem.
I've switched back to the original rom but nothing work.
The GPS seems on but no application can use it.
Please help us .
Thank you.

I guess this is a very common problem on tattoo.My phone sometimes connects to satelites but sometimes not.I have tryed severals programs like GPS STATUS which show that there are satelites in view , but the programs just don't connect to them.Any solution ?

The Tattoo always needs a lot of time for connecting to satellites. If your inside a building it probably never will. So maybe that's the simple solution. Just go outside where it's got better connection.

sandrome said:
The Tattoo always needs a lot of time for connecting to satellites. If your inside a building it probably never will. So maybe that's the simple solution. Just go outside where it's got better connection.
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My Tattoo needs less then 1 or 2 minute to connect to satellites, but now never. I've tested that the only ROM that is able to connect to satellite is the SP-Froyo AOSP. I've tried lot of ROM, my original nand backup, other 1.6, 1.6 SenseUI, 2.1, 2.2 but nothing to do. The only one is the SP-Froyo AOSP. Anyone can help us with this issue??? Lot of thank in advance.

You may try Ndrive 10 it is the only program that runs smoothly for me and connects to satelites even from my room.