hi. i have an 8125 and i was painting and fell from the ladder. i wasn't hurt all that much but the the screen on my 8125 cracked and now there is bleeding everywhere inside my screen.
does anyone know if i can replace the screen easily by myself or where i can even get a screen?
i think someone was going to sell me a broken MDA (screen good) and wondering if that screen would work for the 8125.
thank you.
Hi!
There was similar discussion some time ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51395
Actually I broke my screen too this weekend I ordered replacement from ebay, such as this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140005879931
I am going to try to replace it by myself according to Wizard service manual. In my case only touch screen is damaged - not LCD, but it seems that these come as one unit. If I will find that these can be separated, I will have spare LCD part. In my case I have O2 XDA mini s - I do not know if lcd is the very same as in Cingular 8125 you have.
theorist said:
hi. i have an 8125 and i was painting and fell from the ladder. i wasn't hurt all that much but the the screen on my 8125 cracked and now there is bleeding everywhere inside my screen.
does anyone know if i can replace the screen easily by myself or where i can even get a screen?
i think someone was going to sell me a broken MDA (screen good) and wondering if that screen would work for the 8125.
thank you.
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Gutted for you m8. Hope you manage to get hold of something cheap.
Update to my previous post - after much tinkering I was able to replace broken touchscreen of my mini-s.
Some notes:
According to Wizard service manual there are two LCD versions:
p/n 60H00032-00M - LCD Module, (LTP280QV-E01 Samsung)
p/n 60H00037-00M - LCD Module, (TD028STEB1 Toppoly)
It seems that these are not interchangeable but I might be wrong. I was trying to replace my 60H00032-00M with new 60H00037-00M (whole module with lcd & touchscreen), however it did not work - LCD switched on but was all white. Then I managed to separate touchscreen from new module and replace it with my broken one. Seems that it is working now. It is possible to replace just touchscreen but care must be taken not to break it and some very fine soldering must be done.
To theorist - if you want to replace LCD by yourself you should check for exact part number of your LCD and find similar one - that should work.
So now I have spare and useless for me 60H00037-00M LCD Module (LCD only without touchscreen) that probably is in working order as I suppose that it is just not compatible with my mini-s.
In the US, HTC America can fix it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49361&highlight=
After obtaining a replacement touchscreen for my Touch HD; (no problem, $45 Australian ex Hong Kong) and after much searching, can still not find any reference to replacing the screen only. Can it be done or does one have to dismantle the whole thing as demonstrated in the service manual? It looks as if the touch screen and LCD screen are glued or taped together, but presumably can be separated. Has anyone managed to do this repair? Just need a few more clues as to it's feasibility. My screen is merely cracked due to pressure. All still functioning. This is obviuosly not a unique problem, but the answers are elusive.
heres the service manual, hope be helpful....
enjoy..
http://mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf
manual
Thanks for trying but as mentioned, I have the manual and its does not help. The question remains, does anyone actually have experience of replacing the screen?
Himalaya have two different Main Board?
I have two O2 XDA II, first one with broken LCD and the second one with broken LCD's connector. When I try to combining them, I found that the main board is different.
First one have LCD with P/N : 60H00022-03 and the second one have LCD with P/N : 60H00011-00, that's mean the main board series is different also.
I read the manual service, and it said the P/N is : 60H00011-00. Is that true that Himalaya published with two different series?
Please help me...
Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
Yet.Another.ID said:
Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
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Hi yai, I opened up an elf several times and it is not that hard to do. A howto is published, with clear photo's of the interior. You don't have to solder because the screen (with digitizer) is linked with a (very small) flat cable to the motherboard. It is advised to use proper tooling
so where can we buy a new screen, and how much does it cost? can we do it ourself?
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so where can we buy a new screen, and how much does it cost? can we do it ourself?
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Yes, you can diy. They sell on e-bay for about 20 euro's. Have no experience with shipment or quality from e-bay sellers. E.g. pda parts and repair in the Netherlands.
Oseven published a howto in the past.
Sold for $10 on http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20650 (free shipping). But be warned that it takes couple of weeks for the shipping.
I had to replace the screen on my touch.
I followed some instructions here clicky
The page is in another language, but its easy to see what to do from the pictures.
It took less than half an hour to get it all done.
I bought my screen off ebay for £11 including p&p
Works like a dream.
Dont be scared to do it.
Just make sure you use the right tools or you could damage it.
Yup i bought the same one from dealextreme and it's working flawless ,, there are sites which sell these digitizers for high as $100 even... i dont know how much qulaity difference will that make... but this one for $10 is working perfectly without issues till now...
Thanks, great offer at dealextreme. Just ordered a replacementscreen to test the quality, 3 screenprotectors and disassembly tools for only 12 euro's
Found a decent guide to help replace both Screen and Digitizer
Yet.Another.ID said:
Hi,
As the the title indicates, I was wondering whether anyone who has replaced their screen/digitizer could tell me how difficult it was to do so. My current Touch has a number of scratches on the screen surface and I would like to replace it; but it functions fine and always responds to any stylus tap, etc., and displays everything perfectly.
I had two specific questions:
1. Given that I want to replace the exterior part of my screen, is it indeed true that I want a DIGITIZER and not a new screen? It's my understanding that the digitizer is what records stylus/finger taps. The digitizer is basically an exterior layer above the true screen (which is what displays all images, text, etc., through the transparent digitizer).
2. To replace the digitizer, in addition to opening up the Touch with a small tool, do I need to solder anything or do anything other than just unplug the old digitizer and plug in a new one?
I would hope that the whole operation takes about an hour to complete.
Thanks!
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I was off by 1 step replacing the Digitizer. Looking at the replacement digitizer I kind of knew that it is glued, but never was sure until looking at the guide.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/OSeven's Disassembly Guide to the HTC Touch - Elf .pdf
I could have replaced mine months ago (which was working fine but had watermark like damage - caused by my toddler son.)
Sriks
I have done it and it was not very difficult.
You are correct you are replacing the digitizer and not the LCD display.
Things to watch for:
When you are opening the phone watch out for some clips that hold the bottom together. I snapped mine and had to replace the body. The idea is to pry open the top portion of the phone and then slide the back up to release the cover.
Once that is done you are halfway there.
There is no soldering required. Everything plugs in to quick connectors. Raise the white bars on the plug connector before you pull or insert the flat cables.
Have fun
Good info, moved to general.
Please most in correct forums only.
I recently replaced the digitizer. Cost Rs.1500 if u r in India..
My screen started turning white awhile back. I now have a screen and a ribbon cable.
I replaced the screen first, and the new screen shows only white. Probably the cable, right?
Then I replaced the ribbon (keeping the new screen in) and still got only white.
Hooked the old screen back up with the new ribbon cable, and now I have a working screen, but the colors are horribly washed out and it looks like it has lines of white every other line or so.
Is there anything else I can do? Should I give up? Suggestions?
Thanks guys, I don't know if I've ever posted here, but you've been a great help for many years!
RoastGecko said:
My screen started turning white awhile back. I now have a screen and a ribbon cable.
I replaced the screen first, and the new screen shows only white. Probably the cable, right?
Then I replaced the ribbon (keeping the new screen in) and still got only white.
Hooked the old screen back up with the new ribbon cable, and now I have a working screen, but the colors are horribly washed out and it looks like it has lines of white every other line or so.
Is there anything else I can do? Should I give up? Suggestions?
Thanks guys, I don't know if I've ever posted here, but you've been a great help for many years!
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Assuming the cable connectors are good and clean, it is now generally accepted that white screen issues are caused by faulty chip connections on the d-pad daughter board. If you can replace that at a reasonable cost, it might be worth it.
Your new screen may have been white because either:
1
The d-pad board is indeed faulty
OR 2
The new screen although made for the Hermes is not an exact match. You MUST replace like with like. There were at least 3 different and NON-compatible screens made for the Hermes (by different manufacturers - Toppoly, Samsung etc). The only easy way to know if the new screen is the correct one is to compare the code numbers printed on the rear of the screens.
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485961
Mike
I'll have to keep a eye on eBay for a d-pad... There are a few parts phones out there now, but I can't tell if they have the right parts inside or not,
Does the serial number tell me what screen components it uses (IE Serial number XXXX+ came with the black flex, XXXX and below came with the white flex, etc?)
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I'll have to keep a eye on eBay for a d-pad... There are a few parts phones out there now, but I can't tell if they have the right parts inside or not,
Does the serial number tell me what screen components it uses (IE Serial number XXXX+ came with the black flex, XXXX and below came with the white flex, etc?)
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It may be that you can match screen to seriel number, but so far as I know, nobody has done that detailed matchiing task. So unfortunately at the moment, the only way to tell is to dismantle and see the number.
A thought crossed my mind about the d-pad board. Have you read the long thread about fixing the whitescreen problem. One reasonably successful solution is to place a little padding on a d-pad chip to press it against it's board. (simply put the issue arises from fractured chip solder joints - caused by finger presses on the d-pad). I don't suggest this as a permanent fix, but if such padding caused the whitescreen to disappear, then at least you could be sure it is a d-pad problem.
Mike
My boss is a parnter in a Electric car conversion company, and they build all sorts of small circuitry (including surface mount stuff) so I'll take the board into one of them and ask if they'll re-do the solder joints for me, thanks.
I never posted here, but I got all the information I used to try and fix it here, but in all my searches, I don't think I ever read anything about the Dpad untill the past few days... So thanks alot for that...
RoastGecko said:
My boss is a parnter in a Electric car conversion company, and they build all sorts of small circuitry (including surface mount stuff) so I'll take the board into one of them and ask if they'll re-do the solder joints for me, thanks.
I never posted here, but I got all the information I used to try and fix it here, but in all my searches, I don't think I ever read anything about the Dpad untill the past few days... So thanks alot for that...
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One thing if you have the solder reflowed (obvious to some but not all!!) remember to peel off the sticky plastic layer on the opposite side or you'll end up with a sticky mess
Mike
Hi XDA peeps.
I would like to share my notes and pictures of my recent repair i performed on my touch HD. If you end up suffering from the Newton_Ring problem or cracked lcd, and decide to purchase a factory assembled LCD + Digitizer, you can use the Official Service manual and this thread, to perform the repair.
The Battery and the Battery cover have been removed.
Lower mainboard cover and inner housing have been removed
the Digitizer & LCD (preassembled) replacement Part, beside the damaged Blackstone.
Removal of the GPS Coaxial cabling.
I'll skip past the wifi coax removal, but will like to note that you will find a spare coax socket on the mainboard next to the wifi one, so dont get those mixed up when reassembling it!!
both Coax cables removed. (bad quality picture)
Removal of the Ribbons Mylar
this is the removal of the Ribbon plug.
Removal of the Volume buttons and its petite PCB. Take your time, dont break the ribbons or damage the pcb trying to remove this.
Removal of the mainboard phillips screw.
Power PCB slot removal, this ones tricky.
Unplugging of the 5 megapixel main camera, a nice and easy step.
Note: Please be aware that the whole Top PCB is very fragile and does actually bend, hence the term Flex PCB, be gentle with this component.
You wont see this part of the repair listed in the official manual, infact when I had a google around, there was little to no information on howto perform this anywhere.
Let me make one thing certain, if you've just spent like an hour on the above, while following the Official service manual, squinting at the poor quality photos (or my poor quality photos ) and you're feeling a little impatient, take a decent break before attempting the above!
Because, for the above procedure, you need to tear off the 3 layers of Digitizer and LCD from the front of the phone, if you don't take your time with how you do it, you'll dent your frame (a lot).
you won't find this in the service manual, if you worked out its significantly easier do a factory pre-assembled Digi+LCD replacement, and if you don't purchase the housing along with LCD and Digitizer, then you'll need to take the front Speaker piece grill, and transplant it to the new part.
Note: that you don't need to add any extra glue to perform any of this.
Next you simply gently fold a ribbon so you can place the new part into the old frame, and you'll end up with something like this:
I also did a lot of very minor aesthetic damage to the inner area of the frame, between the frame and the touch screen.
Take your time to prevent this, also if you don't care for the old part at all and aren't replacing a LCD or Digitizer standalone, you can pretty much gain access to the layers from one corner then tear the layers away from the glue with your hands.
Next proceed to rebuild the phone following the above in reverse or keep following the service manual (or both, is probably the best way IMO)
Note: Don't forget to place the camera back into the reassembly as you're re adding the coax wires. The service manual won't instruct you to do this.
Install back your flexible and mainboard pcb. as above.
The above is with all the boards, cables and camera installed back into place.
Verify the replacement part is good before fastening in the shell casings.
Lastly the two shells are fastened back on and the battery is put back into place.
Note: When installing the main shell, be very considerate of the camera, while at the same time, ensuring that none of the coaxial or the vibrator cable falls out of their desired places.
OK, if you have the HTC Service manual PDF, and need to repair your Blackstone (and want to DIY), it can be done albeit some instructions are clearly omitted from the official service manual.
One final note, When researching on what part to use to perform the repair of my Blackstone mobile, I read a great many people have attempted to repair their Blackstones and failed miserably, so even if you're savvy with repairing small electronics, the general suggestion is to get a pre-made digitizer & LCD, it is without a doubt well worth the price difference of a Digitizer or LCD standalone.
Thank you for taking the time to check this out, I hope someone may find it useful and save them from a bit of misery.
you are fantastic! i will try to replace the screen in next days...your guide is the best!
very thanks
excume friends, but i'm from venezuela...... i buy a HTC TOUCH HD in miami, the february 2009, ,i phone present this problem, the LCD work fine, but the touch no responding, anybody know where can buy it...... i don´t know how call the replace..... digitalizer, LCD.... how???
Thanks and excuse me by me bad english........ i know, soooo bad.....
Believe me it's almost imposible to replace just digitizer.
I have similar problem few weeks ago, and I buy pre-made LCD+Digitizer and replace it without any problem. I bought my from ebay. UK reseler. 65 euro. I heard that you can find it for lower price but I was searching on ebay.de so maybe on US ebay you can find for less money.
Don't bother to replace just digitizer, just to go 40$ less. Sometimes is batter to give 40$ more but to do job without any problems. (PS It's very, very hard to detach factory attached LCD from frame without braking it!)
Good luck!
Thank you so much, look for us on ebay or on amazon.com to see them .... any questions do not hesitate to do that around here ...... thanks again
Greetings, I got this on ebay usa,
h**p://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-HD-T8282-Digitizer-Screen-Repair-Part-TL-/290471976452?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a17a9e04
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... What do you think? Does this serve me?
my baclstone started acting funny with screen alignment getting messed up and than it completely stopped responding...
even the touch sensitive hardware buttons donot work no more...i have hard reset many times did task 29. i have changed different roms and went back to stock rom but screen doesnt respond at all... not even the backlight turn on to full brightness when screen is tapped?
anyone have any idea whats broken lcd or digitizer or both... or maybe something else.... and there is no official htc repair shop so i probably gotta fix it on my own
Got Touch HD from someone I know.
He has scratches on the fone screen, so he decided to DIY by replacing the screen, he did not manage to screw everything together so he gave it to me...
I have tried to follow instructions both here and another thread which points me to videos that I can watch...
The problem is that I have black screen, I can hear the sound when turned on. Just no life on screen.
The screen was super glued on so there was no reponsibility of removing and check if eveything OK.
Could it be that the screen defect?
Have google but found no info on how to attach screen to the fone !!!
There was just one ribbon cable, I believe from the screen to the main borad and it is attached to the main board....
OK
Have had some free time over the weekend, disassembled the phone and found that 1 of the fles connectors was loose. Reconnected and all was perfect...
Now I have a fully working phone
Thanks for the guide....
Don't try to replace only the digitizer...i suggest to disassembly the phone first to buy the digitizer.. to see how much is hard to detach to lcd without broke lcd! if you can detach you can buy only digitizer!
i bought the digitizer but i broked my lcd to try to change...with Lcd+touchscreen's block I ve changed in 10 minutes and it is perfect!
Glad to see this has helped others.
My main intention was to cover the steps missed by the not so comprehensive service manual, if it was more comprehensive i probably wouldn't have started this thread to show how I repaired mine. was quite a few too many important steps missing really. (re-adding the camera, etcetera)
Hi all,
I just replaced the lcd screen of my blackstone and got a new touch screen, I put all together but the touch screen seems to be dead. Is there anything I should check? you always talk of touch panel and digitizer like two different layer, does this mean that I should have 3 different pieces (LCD - digitizer?!? - plastic touch panel)? Because I only have two, the LCD and the "glass" with an outgoing flat cable. In the case I am not missing anything, should the touch panel work even if not in contact with the screen ?
If you got one pre-assembled (which we call LCD + digitizer), it would actually just be one whole piece.
If you have two pieces, then you have a LCD screen (the glass one AFAIK) and a plastic layer (the digitizer)
My replacement part came in as one, and in the OP I disassemble, and remove it and place the new on in the old ones spot.
Sounds to me like youve gotten the parts not pre-assembled by the manufacturer, unfortunately its common for non- pre assembled ones to not make contact to eachother properly when you assemble it, some people reported being able to do it, and others from what i've read found either partial or no touch capability, but it would likely be the digitizer contacts are not touching the LCD contacts (kind of a ribbon on the plastic piece)
It maybe worth just getting a pre-assembled replacement. if youve already used the current one and cannot fix it.
No it's not preassembled but you probably solved my problem. you basically say the touch panel and the LCD MUST be in touch in a specific point to close some contact (maybe the lower LCD ribbon must touch the lower part of the touch panel?)!! If you confirm that than probably that is my fault. I've seen some videos on youtube where the touch panel works even if it's away from the LCD but it was not a blackstone and probably not a resistive touch panel.
Please confirm I got it right, you probably saved my blackstone.
as far as i know, the digitizer will have some kind of ribbon, on the LCD theres contacts or a socket for that ribbon, you can see (poorly) in the pictures I took, where I show the LCD and digitizer and a layer (digitizer and face place layers) of torn apart.
I looked around my room for my old damaged screen but unfortunately I can't find it I think I may have disposed of it.
lucky, ebay type sites do have some pictures of the digitizer and its ribbon as you can see in this picture - link (I googled this and found it here
that ribbon would likely attach to the lcd panel, I'm quite sure if they aren't making proper contact the touch won't work.
But, having said that, before I made this thread, while reading about others who did a repair without a pre-assembled part, they mentioned that the digitizer part contained many tiny bubble like resistive cells in the digitizer layers, its imperative you don't damage the any of these touch cell things, because if they somehow get damaged, even if you get the digitizer ribbon to make proper contact with the LCD board/slot/contact (which ever its supposed to plug into), if those tiny cell break in the digitizer the touch wont work (could be partial, or could be overall interoperability) and if that happened, it would be a circumstance where you'd need to source another digitizer.
this is more or less an elaboration on my prior post I think.
What I can say for sure is before I fixed mine, after some searching around on these forums and on others, I found that most of those who did not get the digitizer, face plate and lcd factory pre-assembled did not fix their handset (only a minority did), they either ran into a problem with the digitizer making contact with the lcd panel, or they somehow damaged the digitizer resistive cells.
Also, since I did do mine with a pre-assembled part, I cannot say absolutely that the resistive cells will be between the faceplate layer and the second layer of the digitizer replacement part (like you see in my pictures, I ended up with 3 layers) it could be that the resistive cells are exposed on the back of the last layer and need to sit against the lcd, once again though, I'm not sure about it because I did opt for the more expensive easier choice to fix mine up.
Hope you get it all working smog
No way, tried to push lcd and digitizer together without any result. I don't believe there is something that can be broken on the back of digitizer (Resistive cells???) but I hope you are right, I am waiting for a housing I bought from HK it's complete with a new digitizer ... we'll see
Thanks a lot
Hello, great guide but I am still having a problem and I wonder if it's with what I bought; Off ebay I got the plastic and the glass attached to each other as I assumed thats all I needed because my lcd works fine. So I connected it all up and it only slightly works, where you touch the screen is actually showing up as quite a bit below (depends where - top left corner works fine but if you click the center of the screen the phone thinks you're clicking at the bottom).. I have tried calibration with no luck.. Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Afraid that theres not a lot you can do, if you havent fully reassembled it yet you could try reapplying the digitizer layer but I think that even trying that could make it worse then it is.
Like i said a few times, I wouldn't try replacing the digitizer on its own, I read up on it before repairing mine and concluded it was too much risk or trouble and just got an all in one lcd + digitizer which I used in the guide.
anyway these phones are quite old now, its hard to justify spending on an LCD and digitizer to fix one up.
you need to decide if thats worth it to you or not.
Infact, my blackstone has Newton rings again on the replacement screen, im not certain what squashed against it hard enough to cause them but it happened recently, the digitizer on mine is still working even with the newton ring damage so Im not planning on replacing the screen again.
Okay thank you very much for your help,
Are they still good phones though? I have a nokia 5800 from around the same time and i'm bored of it now but can't afford a new one so i bought this one really cheap as broken and was just going to fix it.. Or is it not really that much better?
Thanks again for your answer
they're considerably faster then nokias usually, i had the 6600, 6260, 9300i and they were all considerably slower ARM processors.
but It will all come down to what OS you run on it, if you do put a WinMo 6.5 rom on it it will be slow to the degree where its unusable. but if you use a 6.1 rom on it then it will never suffer from slow downs (unless the rom is hybrid 6.1 with 6.5 stuff like the one i use).
It also can do heaps of stuff the nokia can't, assuming your nokia is a series 60 or similar.
the Os can do tethering and heaps of other neat things, winmo also has got a fair range of apps, tho dated now, the variety is nice and gives you functionality, you could obtain a lot of this on a nokia symbian phone but winmo (based on wince) is just even better then symbian.
I think it all comes down to how much it will cost you to fix, I have a better phone so i cant justify spending over 50 dollars on fixing a slower older one, but to someone who doesnt have a better phone it may be quite viable to spend that to benefit the improvement over their current worse phone.
ideally, I would say just skip over it, its not truely that fast, you need at least a gigahertz phone to be fast. a HD2 or something, if you can get one like that quite cheap and in good condition, it would be worth more then spending a bit on the blackstone (touch HD).
just my opinion though
I would repair my blackstone again because i get use out of it each time its healthy even though I have something better its still handy to have, i love the audio output on it over my htc desire, but i wouldn't be spending the amount i spent on another repair screen like it did back when it was the best potential phone i could have had at the time.