GPS- potential stupid question - Hero, G2 Touch General

ok, is using gps free? im in uk on orange?

garethclement2009 said:
ok, is using gps free? im in uk on orange?
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gps is free, as it is a signal as for example radio broadcast (the box where music comes out, and every hour someone reads out what happened in the world ), that is only received. however, there are many applications that use online-stored maps (google maps e.g.). this might produce some costs on your account, if you don't have a flatrate or a data plan.

brilliant, i have a data plan so i should be ok there, que using my htc hero to get into shape for the summer, thanks kendog

Not such a stupid question.
A national newspaper recently ran an article saying because there were so many GPS devices, the system would soon be full up! It was soon exposed as junk by 'badscience' website but not before they had already published!

drspikes said:
not such a stupid question.
A national newspaper recently ran an article saying because there were so many gps devices, the system would soon be full up! It was soon exposed as junk by 'badscience' website but not before they had already published!
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l m f a o !

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TeleNav for Athena

Nice job... Telenav
Enjoy...
Sorry, before I execute this CAB,,,, what is it? Like a TomTom GPS thing??
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
lbarouf said:
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
Pay by the month for use? No thanks I will stay with Igo that way I will not incur any data charges plus monthly usage.
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
Confucious said:
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
wgary said:
How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
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I run on many different providers ranging from T-Mobile, Telefonica and others. I have an HTC branded Athena (Advantage/X7500). Runs fine, as long as you create an account with them. I don't mind the premium since the maps are precise, up-to-date.
Review of TeleNav
OK, downloaded, put in my credit card (have until 8/11 to cancel) and... WOW!
Pros:
Very nice feature set. Best implementation of searches for points of interest that I have seen; makes GoogleMaps look downright clunky! One of my favorites was search for lowest gas prices. Can also search for restaurants by type, just by clicking. And the results seemed very accurate. Really, really cool. And the fact that it is live means that you don't have to wait a year for updates.
Haven't tested the voice recognition yet, but a neat idea.
Nice big buttons. Hi-res maps. Attractive.
It is surprisingly responsive, even when on EDGE. Although I haven't tried an interstate at 80mph yet. This is a keeper... NEARLY.
Cons:
My biggest concern is the routing seems a little "creative". I did routes to about 10 locations near and far, and I would say it is comparable to Mapquest 2001. In one case, it inexplicably routed me through a subdivision rather than the direct route. Then I remembered... Mapquest used to give me that same stupid detour! In another, a 8-9 mile trip routed out at 23 miles! Maybe it's just the area I live in, but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it if I really needed to get somewhere in a hurry.
The only other gripe is that while the user interface is pretty, sometimes the menus are confusing. I would hit the Menu button and get a set of options that weren't at all what I expected.
Also, with MvRTrueVGA, there is a gap between the bottom of the app window and the bottom of the display where a little bit of the app below peeks through. OK, this is a hack, so I can't be too harsh about that. But wouldn't it be great...
Summary
Bottom line, this has the potential to be THE killer GPS app. It's not there yet, but I'm betting this will get better in the next while. I definitely plan to keep playing with it at least until August 11, in conjunction with GoogleMaps and/or iNav as a second opinion. I'd be interested about experiences others have had, particularly with routing.
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
Staroip said:
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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Traffic really isn't an issue where I live. My only real beef is the routing. Otherwise, I would gladly give the $10/month... might anyway!
I've been wondering when someone would come out with something like this, but for me it's monthly fee is a deal breaker (or needing a data plan for that matter) because I almost never need/use GPS, so I don't want to pay $$ per month to use it once in a while...
Still I wish them luck and am glad to see them improving GPS.
lbarouf said:
7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
When is 7 going to be made available? Do you know yet?
Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
Confucious said:
CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
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:-S You got me curious now....
I love the fact that when I'm on the road for a long period, people (family, friends, customers) can track me and get an ETA on when I arrive, since I put my routes in CopilotLive. Maps are rough on edges, POI are not as rich as many features. I love TeleNav and consider TeleNav Track for the bidirectional functionality. Will see when they realease for the Athena. It's the really the best navigation PDA around in my eyes. By that time, I hope Alk will release Copilot Live 7. Can you send a screenshot? PM me if needed, I wonder how you got your hands on it and when it's due for.
Cheers.
Hey how did you guys get telenav to find the gps on the x7500? It keeps telling me that it cannot find it and to seek a clear sky position.
Thx
i didn't not notice it requried data plan before installation.
now, how can i uninstall it? TeleSav is not shown in the 'remove program' list. :-(
BTW, i still love my tomtom application.
UK friendly GPS software.
mikealder said:
Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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I have tried another one, webraska. I find not as nice as Telenav, but very close. excellent coverage in UK, Whales, and France. On my last trip I used it and found it just as useful as Telenav. Check it out... Webraska. For my friends on the other other side of the pond.
Anyone happen to know if this version works on other PPCs? Telenav hasn't updated their other Windows Mobile versions in years.

REV A and GPS Nav ROM update watch

OK, the rumored date is Jan 28th ... anybody know more G2 ??
I haven't heard anything official yet. I wish it would have come out before Tuesday since I will be going out of town and I could have tested it. I'll be back by the 28th, but I'll still be happy if its released by then. Hopefully they've thoroughly tested it and there won't be many/any bugs.
anywhereanytime said:
OK, the rumored date is Jan 28th ... anybody know more G2 ??
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will the GPS by turn by turn on the phone? or do i need an adapter of some sort?
spunks3 said:
will the GPS by turn by turn on the phone? or do i need an adapter of some sort?
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The GPS is just enabling the chip in the phone. You will need another app to actually use it. You could pay monthly for Telenav, which would use your internet connection to download maps as you drive. You could buy iGuidance, TomTom, or a similar program and load all of your maps onto your SD card. iGuidance will announce the street names, TomTom will just say "Turn left in 1 mile". This should make it work with Google Maps and Live Search as well. You can get directions off of these programs, but its not voice guided.
Check out this YouTube video - the author has comments "off" do you know exactly which software this is ??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4
Honest question/comment:
Everything I've read and seen in the last couple of months indicates the Titan would get RevA & GPS in early Q1, with the Vogue getting it several months later.
What did I miss?
TIA
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Honest question/comment:
Everything I've read and seen in the last couple of months indicates the Titan would get RevA & GPS in early Q1, with the Vogue getting it several months later.
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Everything I have seen suggests that BOTH will be at the same time - do you have a recent article that says they will be staggered ??
I am referring to the Sprint Touch, and therefore the Sprint Mogul - everything I have read is that both will be at the same time ?
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Everything I have seen suggests that BOTH will be at the same time - do you have a recent article that says they will be staggered ??
I am referring to the Sprint Touch, and therefore the Sprint Mogul - everything I have read is that both will be at the same time ?
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No, my data points are the standard rumors and speculation floating around all the sites. I've seen a number of comments about 'same time' recently, and a lot about 'staggered' in the couple of months preceeding that. The only published and official fact that I've seen anywhere in months is Sprint's statement about Mogul in Q1 on HTC's site and at BAW.
It would make perfect sense for them to be released at the same time - not that sense is something I would associate with Sprint! :=)
I will be thrilled if they both come out at the same time, and soon. I have given up on my Mogul and put it on a shelf pending a likely trade for a Treo 800w. My Touch is now my primary phone.
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Check out this YouTube video - the author has comments "off" do you know exactly which software this is ??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4
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This is the new CoPilot Live 7 (http://www.alk.com/copilot/). I have this one also. The software is nice (but I haven't tried it on the Touch). The maps in my area are out-dated compared to iGuidance v4. CoPilot also doesn't announce street names, iGuidance is the only one that does this. ALK said they plan on releasing an update to CoPilot to make it announce street names though, I was never given a time frame.
january 28th is the rumored release for the Moguls GPS/REV.A release, the touch is not set to get a ROM update to enable such until at least Q2 2008.
This may sound stupid, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a Garmin GPS (Nuvi250) in my wifes car, is there anyway to pull the maps from that and use them on the Touch?
MrCantrell said:
This may sound stupid, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a Garmin GPS (Nuvi250) in my wifes car, is there anyway to pull the maps from that and use them on the Touch?
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i think if your nuvi250 has bluetooth .. it will allow u to use gps on htc touch !!
neogin said:
i think if your nuvi250 has bluetooth .. it will allow u to use gps on htc touch !!
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I'll clarify.
Once they release the update, if it allows us to use the GPS, could I take the maps that are on the Nuvi and load them onto the Vogue?
no you might not be able to use garmin maps as they are very heavily copyrighted and protected. you cannot even use maps from one garmin device to another
top of that .. u can't use it ..
but u can load from underground web ..
it is impossible to load from the map from nuvi to your pda ..
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january 28th is the rumored release for the Moguls GPS/REV.A release, the touch is not set to get a ROM update to enable such until at least Q2 2008.
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What is your source - rumors or actual fact ??
Can anyone else confirm this - Touch not at the same time as the Mogul ???
That was my understanding based on what I have read as well. I hope to be proven wrong.
so just because the mogul came out first they're getting the update first?
this is bull****. sprint/htc's logic is ****ing trash.
sorry for the foul language but this just got me flamed. If iPhone v2 comes out within the next 4-5 months (thats what I'm hearing or something like that) and if that **** comes with all the features I need/want... then bye bye HTC.
well i hope it is soon, i would RUV to have this pupppy havin GPS. I mean the latency for gaming will be a nice improvement and FPS games will be playable via that mobile web, but GPS via tomtom and google maps will be [email protected]
well i guess the 28th wasnt the date?

Co-pilot 8 Australiasia maps finally avaliable for purchase!

Finally! Just received reply from ALK that Australia / NZ maps are finally avaliable for purchase. Checked CoPilot Central and can see a Australiasia link now.
http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/cart.asp?Action=AddItem&SKU=CP8-DIG-AUNZ-WEB
Edit: weird, the maps don't appear when logged into Central. it does show up if you're not logged in though.
Purchasing Copilot 8
How do you buy Copilot 8?
I contacted them and they said not sold in Au.
Maps are no good without CP
You click on that link I posted. That's the one the Copilot support person gave me when I asked the same question.
Oddly enough it seems you can't actually purchase via Central (yet)... as I said earlier the "Australiasia" map option disappears from the Copilot Store section as soon as you log in. Purchasing through the link I posted does indeed work however; I just bought and activiated my Copilot for Australia maps successfully last night
Just watch out for the key issue. I purchased the Au maps on Monday and found that the key was accepted by CoPilot but every time I closed it and re-opened I had to re-enter the key. Contacted support and they said that the key I had was the wrong one (for upgrades only) so they generated me a new one. Just be aware of that...
Do the maps cover the whole of AUS, not just the major centres?
Can you please check and see if places like Broome, Darwin and Karratha, Jabiru are in the AUS maps?
Finally!
simopimo said:
Just watch out for the key issue. I purchased the Au maps on Monday and found that the key was accepted by CoPilot but every time I closed it and re-opened I had to re-enter the key. Contacted support and they said that the key I had was the wrong one (for upgrades only) so they generated me a new one. Just be aware of that...
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Damn! You're right, I have the same issue. *sigh* Time to contact them I guess...
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Do the maps cover the whole of AUS, not just the major centres?
Can you please check and see if places like Broome, Darwin and Karratha, Jabiru are in the AUS maps?
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For the locations you listed: yes, yes, yes and yes. I tested by punching in the locations into the route planner (starting with Broome). Total trip time from Broome => Jabiru via Darwin and Karratha was ~7100km, 101hrs
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You click on that link I posted. That's the one the Copilot support person gave me when I asked the same question.
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Thanks Mate.
I haven't used CP yet. The HD2 I purchased came with Garmin pre-installed with full AU maps and works perfect. I would like to read some feedback on CP though
aussiebum said:
For the locations you listed: yes, yes, yes and yes. I tested by punching in the locations into the route planner (starting with Broome). Total trip time from Broome => Jabiru via Darwin and Karratha was ~7100km, 101hrs
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thanks for that, I'll have to add to my list of software purchases
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I haven't used CP yet. The HD2 I purchased came with Garmin pre-installed with full AU maps and works perfect. I would like to read some feedback on CP though
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[OFF TOPIC] Where did you get you HD2 with Garmin pre-installed?
lexx-luthor said:
Do the maps cover the whole of AUS, not just the major centres?
Can you please check and see if places like Broome, Darwin and Karratha, Jabiru are in the AUS maps?
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Hi Lexx, Yes I checked for Broome and there was a listing of all the hotels that I know about in Broome. Seemed to know a bit about the place.
simopimo said:
Hi Lexx, Yes I checked for Broome and there was a listing of all the hotels that I know about in Broome. Seemed to know a bit about the place.
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thanks Simopimo
aussiebum said:
Finally! Just received reply from ALK that Australia / NZ maps are finally avaliable for purchase. Checked CoPilot Central and can see a Australiasia link now.
http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/cart.asp?Action=AddItem&SKU=CP8-DIG-AUNZ-WEB
Edit: weird, the maps don't appear when logged into Central. it does show up if you're not logged in though.
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Great work AussieBum! I wasn't going to register mine until they'd officially released the maps. I'm usually a TomTom guy but I really quite like the way CoPilot looks/works on the HD2.
$100 for the upgrade version?
It's great that you're grabbing the Australian maps. If it was $30 (as i think they were offering for the UK) I might consider it, but $100 seems a bit steep... especially when my copy of CoPilot 7 (from my old TyTN II) works just fine.
Might try version 8 when I head to the UK next.
Updating the maps would be good though... was kinda annoying to have to use google maps to search for the Merthyr Bowls Club last weekend. Having the HD2's car kit system go for CoPilot 7 rather than 8 (as it does by default) would be good too.
Don't know if any of you are grinning like I am when you see a specialist GPS unit advertised that has a smaller screen than our phone
Still waiting for the Wm version software update which was supposed to come out at the same time as the new maps. Still waiting for the other lives services to come on-line such as live traffic updates

Bing now has Voice Nav!

I already posted this in the Tmobile US HD2 section but just in case you're not looking there... Bing has added Voice Nav with turn by turn directions!
http://www.bing.com/community/blogs...05/11/updated-bing-app-for-windows-phone.aspx
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/bing-for-windows-mobile-now-has-real-navigation-features
It appears to work really well for folks in the US... other countries ymmv for now. This is a great FREE app for Windows Mobile! Now I don't have to buy CoPilot Live!!!!!
Yes yes yes!!!!
thanks this is great
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
eenbox said:
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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Never hurts to have a backup, and it does look very nice....
Its about time thougt that MS sorted our this US only BS, you cant compete if you dont actually have a working product.
sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France Still I use GMaps when travelling, it's just easier to handly then iGo and it has phone numbers etc. matching your destination.
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sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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Lol! Hopefully MS will continue to make improvements and add regions to the app... I'm very, very impressed with the new version and the voice input works very well for me... (I don't end my sentences with "have a nice day y'all" either , maybe the version you downloaded was corrupted, hehe).
have a nice day y'all!
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GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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I agree, but... A) this is free! B) I already own a GPS but no longer have to carry an additional piece of consumer electronics along with me. C) I have the (unlimited) data plan anyway so no downside for me in using it...
ymmv of course.
For those who can't find the download link it's m.bing.com/download

[Q] Orange maps

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I have an HD2 running android. My contract is with Orange and i am on the panther 40 plan. Inclusive with that plan is Orange Maps, normally Orange maps is imbedded within the OS but as i got my phone from the carphone warehouse and it is now running Android I do not get this option Has anybody had experience with this? if so were you able to resolve it? is there an orange Maps .APK somewhere?
Please help....
Is there anything specific you want from Orange Maps that you can't get from Google Maps? Or is it that the data is included in your plan? If that's the case then running the Android version will probably not make any difference and you'll still use data regardless.
Bear in mind (as poo as it is) that they sold you a WM device with WM software, compatible with their network requirements. You simply may not be able to get an Android equivalent.
My only advice is to go and have a search round the Desire forum. They did package Orange Maps on that device, so it may be available in the forum. To be honest, I don't really fancy your chances though. Most people get rid of what's considered "bloatware" as soon as they can.
Good luck mate
Is there anything specific you want from Orange Maps that you can't get from Google Maps? Or is it that the data is included in your plan? If that's the case then running the Android version will probably not make any difference and you'll still use data regardless.
Bear in mind (as poo as it is) that they sold you a WM device with WM software, compatible with their network requirements. You simply may not be able to get an Android equivalent.
My only advice is to go and have a search round the Desire forum. They did package Orange Maps on that device, so it may be available in the forum. To be honest, I don't really fancy your chances though. Most people get rid of what's considered "bloatware" as soon as they can.
Good luck mate
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Hi John
Thanks the the quick response.
To be honest, I would probably never use it but as it is included with the panther plan I thought I might as well try it, no problems if I can't though ( I don't have a car ATM anyway )
jhol3368 said:
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Thanks the the quick response.
To be honest, I would probably never use it but as it is included with the panther plan I thought I might as well try it, no problems if I can't though ( I don't have a car ATM anyway )
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lol. No loss really then, which is good. I thought Panther had unlimited internet anyway (or as unlimited as they ever are!)
Just use Google maps - it's great, and comes with free satnav. I bet Orange maps doesn't go 3D with a 2 finger swipe
http://www1.orange.co.uk/orangemaps/download/index.html

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