Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.
ltxda said:
Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.
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Now that is nice. Especially if it worked in landscape on the Athena.
Indeed. Very interesting.
I'll be looking for it too.
HTC's Touch is QVGA....
From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.
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I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)
Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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I don't think so but I could be wrong. For example, the iPhone theme uses slider bars, etc and can be loaded onto the Athena, with a little help of third party software. I hope someone posts the CAB so I can test it out. I'll load it and report my findings if someone can get it.
Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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It isn't multi touch.
Or have I missed something?
ltxda said:
I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)
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Gotta agree with you ltxda. I still want to try it too.
i think it would be great. i know there are other softwares that use this interface. so i think ppc is capable but its all about the software limitation.
If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886
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If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886
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That's awesome! Great thinking mackaby007! Can't wait for him to reply and maybe send us a CAB or two.
Bad news so far...
This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
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P"
Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.
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This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
smile.gif
P"
Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.
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If he wants, have him give us the passworded ZIP file. I'll try to crack it.
I guess we'll have to have someone take a look at the dll mentioned above and see what can be done about that...if there is enough interest.
Maybe we could at least have the today plugin? That looks pretty sweet.
Touch.DLL
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?
2 things i do not like:
mackaby007 said:
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
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pretty dissapointing but to be expected i guess.
Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.
Osir1s said:
Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.
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Well see, we're not trying to recreate the interface, we're trying to get the actual app from the actual source and see if it works. Please try to contribute to the thread instead of making ambiguous statements!
WarezAppz said:
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?
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Just maybe, you never know. I can't remember which post I read, but I do recall it mentioning that the the screen is a new techology and another report that that would not make it a standard WM6 device (I remember now, a discussion at 4winmobile.com about the HTC Touch etc..). Anyway, that makes sense + fellow member neilm also went on to mention that a lot of current WM5 & WM6 wouldn't work on it as it wasn't written with this type of multi-touch screen in mind.
Fair point I think and follows the logik that HTC haven't built a WM6 device that is incompatible with software written for its O/S. No it's more likely that that .dll is all the software needed to make that plug-in (shell or whatever) interface with any WM touch screen.
So, WarezApps, if you have the .dll by default, it could mean that your device is capable of running the plug-in with the screen driver you seem to have, as they may have considered selling it as a default app within your device, but possibly recognized the potential to knock out another new device (for more money), which will appeal to some people just for this particular touch interface!
I think it will work with that Touch.dll screen driver.
Can you upload your file for us all to share and examine.
Anyway bottom line: I think it's all about transferable software now and just want to try it for myself to see.
Ok. UK Orange user here and I'll start by admitting I'm a long time fan of WM devices going back to the very first Orange SPV - that was the Canary from recollection.
I've had my touch HD for exactly a week now and I'm completely smitten with it. I've read some of the other forum post from people having problems and sympathise but I want to put the other side of the argument. I have no idea who in their right mine would pay hundreds of Euros for a mobile - it cost me less than £50! Perhaps if I'd forked out more than 10 times that I'd agree but there it is.
I love:
The screen - it's amazing! Huge and responsive compared to my other WM devices and better than the iPhone's that my friends all seem to have bought.
The performance of Manila 3D - again smooth responsive animation and beautiful graphics.
The design - The finish and quality of the device puts past abominations to rest. This really does look and feel like a thoroughly well engineered product. I always had a nagging shame when comparing my TyTN II to devices like iPods - or let's face it TV remote controls! It was rattly and the buttons moved on their own!
The applications - Office mobile and sync with my corporate exchange server aren't exactly new but they make the device a brilliant work tool. With the screen size I'm seriously considering buying a bluetooth keyboard and dispensing with the laptop for a lot of meetings.
I've added only a small number of third party applications to the device and have only done one soft reset since I bought it, that was following installation of some utility I downloaded from another un-named forum! My experience suggests that third party applications are the main cause of crashes on both windows and WM. The very extensibility and openness of the platforms is their major weakness.
I don't like:
The fact that I can't seem to make the Manila music player and photo album look at my mSD card. I've looked through some threads but honestly, I'm happy to use WM player for the audio - sounds perfectly fine to me.
Umm.....
Does that make me a fanboi? Not sure - but I do know that this phone meets all my requirements perfectly and looks amazing into the bargain. Line it up alongside and iPhone, go on - doesn't that iPhone look just a little bit yesterday's news?
I'm an orange customer too love my Hd also.
I don't have any problems with manilla media player recognising music files on my micro sd.
Growltiger said:
The fact that I can't seem to make the Manila music player and photo album look at my mSD card. I've looked through some threads but honestly, I'm happy to use WM player for the audio - sounds perfectly fine to me.
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i'm a newbie with winmo, i only used symbian phones and the passage was a bit hard but i was able to make manila play my mp3s and see my photo in the SD Card
I created 2 folders on the SD Card
Music
Image
and the manila mp3 player automatically "pools" from that folder for new mp3s automatically.
in the manila photo viewer simply press "Album" and when in the new windows press again "Album" here select "Memory Card" and "Image", the viewer will load all the images inside after this simply press "Menu" and "Set as favorite"
If you can't see the "Memory Card" menu press "All" since the viewer forgets that there's a memory card insert'd if you plugged the phone on a pc as external drive, and yes this means that everytime you'll plug the phone to a pc as external drive and not in active sync you'll have to do this
The fact that I can't seem to make the Manila music player and photo album look at my mSD card
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Manila......is that a term for TouchFlo3D? (I've been seeing the phrase manila a lot lately and have only got ot the point where I'm assuming it's the name of the registry entries or cab files relating to the touchflo program...)
Anyway - if so, then mine does! (I use my phone as my MP3 player)
I cant recall what I did though - I *think* it was...[you may want to try] - opening WMplayer - hitting the update library option on that - it'll then search both device and starage for tracks - then you have to hit another option to add files - then it recounts everything adding it all into library, then u can close WMplayer and forget about it - that could be what I did because my TF3D reads all my tracks from the storage card
HTH
You say Touchflo 3D, I say Manilla 3D ... yes it's basically the same thing in the same way that a Blackstone is a Touch HD!
I can get all of my media files to play through windows media player which suits me fine. I have tried messing about with the various SD card solutions on here but hey, this way I have fewer tabs to scroll through - everyone's a winner!!
Got the photos to work, not the music - don't care!! Still love it.
blackb1ade said:
Manila......is that a term for TouchFlo3D?...
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Growltiger said:
You say Touchflo 3D, I say Manilla 3D ... yes it's basically the same thing in the same way that a Blackstone is a Touch HD!...
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Actually, Manila is the user interface component of TouchFLO (the pretty part you see on the screen). Besides Manila, TouchFLO is also responsible for finger input/gestures on the touch screen and scrolling/panning. I think HTC needs to let the author of iContact work on TFLO, cause iContact scrolls so beautifully!!
Hi,
in all the Reports about the HD2 they allways say "Multitouch" but i was not able to find out, how many touches at the same time the HD2 can recognize.
Is there anyone who has an answer for me?
greetz
virtually unlimited.
so is there an application around which uses more then two right now?
So far I've only seen dualtouch on HD2. But it might be capable of more than just dualtouch..
LOL
Physically the hardware may be unlimited but WM 6.5 can only support 1 touch!!!
HTC worked around this for the PZ in Sense, but there is no native support for multitouch at all.
WM7 Should do though so keep waiting and hoping..............
i see! thanks for that!
hopefully microsoft and htc will hear our prayers!
That is not entirely true. WM6 might not support multitouch officially. That does not mean HTC does not use it's own extensions. It does.
You must enable multitouch for each application in similar way as rotate (there is white list in registry). Then new events are sent to the window, which allows you to use more 'cursors' at the same time. Of course application must be made to support that. I've seen some demo (which only showed 2 cursors actually), and there was documentation too, unfortunately I can't remember where it was.
Hi All,
What do people think is the best application to watch video and listen to music on the HD2?
Also has anybody put togeter a list of the top 10 must have apps for the HD2?
Cheers,
P
I'm afraid I don't know, but I desperately want to, and I'd prefer this list to be the Top 100 Apps.
I mean, Leo has unbelievable specs for such a little unit, but I feel like what's the point if there are hardly any apps to take advantage of it?
I'm very much hoping that WinMo 7 will be a success, HTC will stay true to its rumours and give us an update, and developers will get interested in WinMo on the same scale as the iPhone.
you will probably get a better response in the software section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=535
The core pocket media player is in my opinion the best video player available to date.
I don't remember as to how well it worked on the hd2 though.
My phone is off to be repaired so I wouldn't be able to try till I get it back.
Here is the link to the site:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
dont have a list but here are some applications i really like and use
fpsece (playstation 1 emulator)
nav4all (free satnav, because i dont use satnav much and im too tight to pay for nav 4 all)
the flashlight application (cant remember the real name but uses your flash as a torch)
[email protected] CM internet router (came from this forum... allows you to use your phone as a wireless router... This feature is removed in o2 roms so the application is well needed)
Hello dear Xdas...
I use my HD2 now since November 2010. I just used the Artemis ROM(Thanks for this great ROM!!!), as i was afraid to brick my phone during flashing.
However I installed WP7 (16.05.11 HD2O) yesterday and want to offer some Experience i gathered. Overall i am satisfied at all but some Key features are missing.
PRO
Fast
Energy saving
Good handling in the menu
great appearance
the keyboard is great, i never experienced such a good writin on the HD2 (tried los of keyboards incl. Swype)
So at all its ok.
BUT!!
I usualy used my HD2 as carPC. Through i have an CU-S400 car holder + an car stereo with freetalk and A2DP Profile.
So i miss:
Easy music transfer (Zune iss like iTunes and i hate iTunes!!)
Music player with Visualization and online Streams ( Pocket Player 4 was great!)
A navigationsoftware which dont uses the Web, i want the maps on my SD!
Voicedial doesnt work
No palringo or other multi-protocoll chatclient (I think that will be solved soon )
And Gpc is not available at the moment( I hope xtreme Apps is developing a WP7 version)
Also the missing Outlook syncronization and missing USB stick function su**s a lot.
I think this is not to much, i expect from a mobile. However WM6.5 did all the jobs very well.
Maybe someone has some hints for me to get me more satisfied with WP7.. Or maybe a possibility to make a Dual Boot WP7 and WM6.5 (Plz keep that android crap away from me )
Regards screamor
Btw. Wanna Thank DFT, Cotulla, HD2O and sternas...
@ screamor
For filetransfer like music,ringtones etc. search for touchxperience. It´s a very good app & very easy to handle.
greetz
pego2007
screamor said:
Hello dear Xdas...
I use my HD2 now since November 2010. I just used the Artemis ROM(Thanks for this great ROM!!!), as i was afraid to brick my phone during flashing.
However I installed WP7 (16.05.11 HD2O) yesterday and want to offer some Experience i gathered. Overall i am satisfied at all but some Key features are missing.
PRO
Fast
Energy saving
Good handling in the menu
great appearance
the keyboard is great, i never experienced such a good writin on the HD2 (tried los of keyboards incl. Swype)
So at all its ok.
BUT!!
I usualy used my HD2 as carPC. Through i have an CU-S400 car holder + an car stereo with freetalk and A2DP Profile.
So i miss:
Easy music transfer (Zune iss like iTunes and i hate iTunes!!)
Music player with Visualization and online Streams ( Pocket Player 4 was great!)
A navigationsoftware which dont uses the Web, i want the maps on my SD!
Voicedial doesnt work
No palringo or other multi-protocoll chatclient (I think that will be solved soon )
And Gpc is not available at the moment( I hope xtreme Apps is developing a WP7 version)
Also the missing Outlook syncronization and missing USB stick function su**s a lot.
I think this is not to much, i expect from a mobile. However WM6.5 did all the jobs very well.
Maybe someone has some hints for me to get me more satisfied with WP7.. Or maybe a possibility to make a Dual Boot WP7 and WM6.5 (Plz keep that android crap away from me )
Regards screamor
Btw. Wanna Thank DFT, Cotulla, HD2O and sternas...
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I check this site every day in the hope that someone has got WM running off the SD card, it would complete the device.
I think you need to remember though that WP7 is the best smartphone out there, it isnt however a pocketPC and i think that is what people are compare it too, which is a shame because its not ment to be a pocketpc
i wouldnt go as far as saying android is crap but i would say its boring, its like it has an identity crysis, it doesnt really know what it wants to be, pocketpc or smartphone? and it does neither very well in my opinion
there is a few things missing from WP and personally i think if they created some kind of sandboxed WM environment it would help slove most of these issues but thats just me