Having now had the HD2 for many weeks I have built up a large set of applications. As before in my HD, I tried to move some into sub-folders of windows/start menu/programs, e.g., sub-folders called "multimedia", "tools", "reference" etc.
It helps me to have these organised into folders rather than a big long list of applications in the top Programs directory. I used JWMD to set the icons nicely for these sub-folders.
But, it seems not all applications transfer across OK. Two examples: SPB Radio and SBSH GoNews I wanted in windows/start menu/programs/multimedia. But just copying the file link to the sub folder does not work - had to reinstall the two programs !
What am I doing wrong ?
Sometimes it works to just move the xxx.lnk file to a sub-folder and sometimes it does not - I'm confused !
Are you copying and pasting or cutting and pasting?
The copy method if its being used may be causing a conflict.
Just out of interest, have you managed to fix this?
I do it via my laptop, browsing to the windows folder and doing from there. If you can't see the windows folder from your PC (assuming you have Windows) then you need to go into Control panel > folder options > View > tick "show hidden OS files".
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Does anyone have a hack that would allow me to view and save data files at a lower folder than the first level?
I.e. my folder structure is \Personal\Financial\ but excel and word can only see files stored under \Personal\ and not the next folder down. I need to be able to access this second level from within the application.
Would be a great help to me.
If you haven't installed Mad Programmer's dialog changer, you're not using your pda properly.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17133
V
Thanks vijay555 but this is not in relation to installing apps.
There is a particular problem in WM2003 whereby if I store for example my pocket excel files in the folder:
\Financial\Spreadsheets\
I cannot access this folder from Pocket Excel but only from File Explorer. Pocket excel will only show the files existing in the folder "Financial" here. It means that when I create a new excel (or any other document) from within the application, I have to save it to the "financial" directory first, then manually move it to the next folder down.
Same applies to Pocket Word, Listpro etc files (any files in fact).
Paul
pauldcullen: although the link I gave is talking about installing cabs and stuff, Mad Programmer's dialog changer hooks into the OS and changes all of the rubbish OS dialogs (that only allow you to see My documents etc) and replaces them with the more advanced kind that let you navigate anywhere.
The link I gave is a useful one on installing the app itself, because Mad Programmer's website is generally Japanese. But hopefully, try installing the app and you should be able to navigate anywhere for saving files.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039
Ensure you use the right version for your OS.
V
thanks a lot I'll give it a shot - any stability problems with it?
I've never had any and used it for > 1year on both Wm2003 and Wm5.
V
vijay I've installed it and it seems to work for SAVING new files into a sub-directory which in itself is great!
However, as soon as I OPEN pocket excel etc, I cannot see these files in the subfolders, only those in the parent folder - any ideas?
Thanks for your help!
Paul
Hmm, I just noticed that...
It seens mad programmer only hooked the saving, not opening dialogs.
Not the best option I know, but I never open files using word, I use gsfinder to locate them and open directly by double clicking.
Other then that, I don't think Word was "designed" to show the subfolders as you've got them configured. PITA I know.
V
I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
I would love to know too
madmatt079 said:
I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
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There is a small app here that does the job http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35536
VJEschaton has this feature built in too - but with the same limitations, it only takes effect after the reset.
I think there may be another way to entirely remove recent programs, but it needs some hacking that I don't have time for right now.
If anyone is interested and would feel competent to write it, PM me.
V
The first solution worked well. Thank you.
Although if there is a method to remove "Recent Programs" all together then I'd like to know.
Thank you.
Dont they disapear when you soft reset ?
In another forum some guy (sorry I can't remember where and who), gave this solution:
"Use some type of utility (like Resco File Explorer or just browse to the PDA while in the cradle from your PC) and browse to the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder on the PDA. Create sub-folders in the root of the Programs folder (such as Utilities, Applications, Games, etc) and copy all of your shortcuts from the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder into these sub-folders. Once complete, go to Settings and Menus. From here, uncheck all of the programs that are checked and place checks next to all the sub-folders that you just created (* Make sure you stay under the maximum limit of 5 (or whatever)).
It seems that the "recent list" only monitors the Start Menu\Programs folder. If you move your shortcuts out of this folder, they no longer appear on that dreaded recent list. The major bonus that I've noticed is that the Start menu no longer has that 3 - 5 second lag!!!
Note: Using this work around, you will need to move the shortcuts of any newly installed applications into your sub-folders manually. Also, be sure you remap your PDA buttons to the location of the new shortcuts. Other then these two "cons", this solution works GREAT!!!"
I've tested it and it sure works great!!!
I forgot to mention that with this trick you can DISABLE recent documents list
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
Delicious, worked for me on my Cingular 8125 w/ 2.25. I was really getting tired of running ClearTemp all the bloody time.
Interestingly enough I have a folder called "Settings" and it won't let me show it on the Start Menu - I had to rename it to "Utilities".
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jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
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EDIT: Screenshot added of what your tree should look like after this change. Removed confusing post.
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
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hanmin said:
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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meschle said:
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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You are the lucky one, I guess There are many (including me) which seems to find the start menu to be slow (e.g. this one ). I'm not sure why mine is slow (1-2 seconds), probably because I had many of the software installed on my SD (instead of the main memory) and my phone is a Charmer. Topic aside, is Wizard faster than Charmer (is there any benchmark to it)?
Other than the start menu, the Start->Setting pages are also very slow (a second or two) after each softreset. You don't have this problem?
madmatt079 said:
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
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Goto '\Windows\Start Menu' and create a directory (name it e.g Applications).
Now, under the 'Windows\Start Menu' there must be 3 subdirectories (Applications, Programs, Settings).
If yes, then move the desired apps, from the '\Programs' folder to the '\Applications' folder. (Before you remove the apps make sure that you have uncheck them from the 'Menus' list (Start -----> Settings -------> Menus).
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i cant move any
it gave me error access is denied when i try moving any shortcut
please help
ok i guess it was my expedition it was easy sory
and am shy of my weak knowledge ... thank you all any way
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
actually i had this question too *bump* haha
cmccarter said:
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
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Sure. Easiest way: in ActiveSync (on your PC), "explore" your PocketPC. Find the executable you want to have in the programs screen, then drag it WITH THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON to the Windos\Start Menu\Programs folder of your PocketPC. When you release the right mouse button, chose "create shortcut". That's all. Oh, you may want to rename the shortcur you just created to something nicer.
Cheers
tadzio
cmccarter said:
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
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Some programs do not create a nice shortcut in your program list. You can however create one and put it there yourself.
There are different ways to do this but what I do is:
Connect to PC with active sync
Use the explorer option on PC part of active sync.
Track down the place where your program is. (maybe in it's own folder on storage card or or in a programs folder on the sd card.
When you find the executable file that launches the program - create a shortcut (right click mouse to get the option)
Right click to "cut" the shortcut you have created and go navigate to:
The Windows folder on the Hermes. Keep navigating to the Start Menu folder and then the Programs folder.
In the programs folder right click and paste the shortcut you created.
Now when you go to programs you will find your program listed.
Mike
My Start Menu is really crowded. The Custom ROM I had on my TP2 had the icons sorted into folders -- which I really liked -- so I'm trying to do that on my HD2.
Doing that through File Explorer seems tedious, however, whenever I navigate to the Start Menu folder on my PC with the phone hooked up via USB, I can't move icons into folders, I'm told I don't have the permissions.
Any fix?
Also, is there any way to get the Start Menu (and it's folders) to sort themselves like Windows Explorer typically sorts files -- folders first, files second, and after that alphabetically?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.5.5 if it makes any difference.
Back to the top...
Would appreciate help.
I'm not aware of any editor for the start menu I'm afraid, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
I've tidied mine before now, but just using the method you suggested and using totaly commander. At least I could multi-select links, rather than move them 1-by-1.
Sorry mate.
Maybe i'm missing something, but I can't replicate the problem? I have just tested this, and I can quite happily browse to the windows/start menu/programs folder of my mobile from my pc, (it takes quite a while to open the windows folder, maybe 2 minutes) , then create folders and move links around without a problem. Is that what you are trying to do?
<Edit>Using windows 7 ultra, and i have the allow all programs tweak from bsb tweaks, doesn't that set the permissions in teh registry to something less controlling?
I´m looking for a tool that not only sorts the icons but also changes the registry settings for the links. That means that if you uninstall the program the start menu icon is also removed and so on...
Hi,
Hd2 is fantastic fast... But browsing "Windows folder" from WM7 Synchronization Center via USB is so slow!
Does somebody know a way to speed up the this "windows folder" browsing.
I did not find a way to fix this in xda or Google. May be i missed it.
Using explorer or Resco explorer from Hd2 is ok, no slowdown.
Thanks in advance.
I can't even browse the Windows folder from Win7, it freezes up the explorer window, my computer and the phone until I unplug the USB cable. Very strange.
For me in W7 I can't even get to the Windows folder, it's hidden even with hidden files and system folders set as shown.
To answer, it just takes very long to enumerate the 10'000+ files in the windows folder with the rather slow activesync protocol.
@kilrah - in folder options there are two tick boxes that control visibility.you need to both tick show hidden files and folders, and also a few entries further down untick hide protected operating system files.
plus don't forget to apply settings to all folders.
@OP its always been slow over active sync.personally if I'm dealing with files in windows I copy them to sd with resco on the phone and only then browser the sd from the pc.
samsamuel said:
@kilrah - in folder options there are two tick boxes that control visibility.you need to both tick show hidden files and folders, and also a few entries further down untick hide protected operating system files.
plus don't forget to apply settings to all folders.
@OP its always been slow over active sync.personally if I'm dealing with files in windows I copy them to sd with resco on the phone and only then browser the sd from the pc.
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Thanks for your suggestions, but does somebody knows a way to realy speed up browse of "Windows folder" from WM7 explorer?
I dont think there is a way to "speed" it up through sync center. Even browsing the directory from your phone itself takes moment to populate all of the files in there.
First time I loaded that dir from my old old phone I thought it was frozen too but after a few minutes everything came up lol.