I Bought A O2 Locked HTC HD2, Bad Idea? - HD2 General

Heres the story:
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First I was going to buy it off Amazon, unlocked, £450 <-- Awesome!
But then I checked the next day, and it went up to £519, not sure if there was an original error or I was just very unlucky, needless to say I was very angry and dissapointed
So I headed over to ebay, I wasn't finding anything to great (price wise) but then I found a O2 locked brand new HD2. As I was going to use an O2 PAYG sim card anyway, I decided that that would be the phone I bought
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Everything seemed fine, but just now I've been reading around on forums (includng xda) and Ive seen that O2 models mess around with the HD2's software, ripping some of the things out of it (like the wifi router), so now Im worried im not going to have a very good version.
+ The phone is an unwanted upgrade from the guy on ebay, I didnt think that would make any difference going together with a PAYG sim, but now Im worrying.
Final question, will I have O2 branding on the back?

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Heres the story:
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First I was going to buy it off Amazon, unlocked, £450 <-- Awesome!
But then I checked the next day, and it went up to £519, not sure if there was an original error or I was just very unlucky, needless to say I was very angry and dissapointed
So I headed over to ebay, I wasn't finding anything to great (price wise) but then I found a O2 locked brand new HD2. As I was going to use an O2 PAYG sim card anyway, I decided that that would be the phone I bought
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Everything seemed fine, but just now I've been reading around on forums (includng xda) and Ive seen that O2 models mess around with the HD2's software, ripping some of the things out of it (like the wifi router), so now Im worried im not going to have a very good version.
+ The phone is an unwanted upgrade from the guy on ebay, I didnt think that would make any difference going together with a PAYG sim, but now Im worrying.
Final question, will I have O2 branding on the back?
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Dont worry. If the o2 software bothers you you can always put a stock htc rom on. See here for information.
Oh and there is no o2 branding on the case and barely any in the ROM either tbh. I have one myself. Im considering following the above guide 2moz just for the hell of it although i havent had any probs with the o2 rom so far.

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Heres the story:
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First I was going to buy it off Amazon, unlocked, £450 <-- Awesome!
But then I checked the next day, and it went up to £519, not sure if there was an original error or I was just very unlucky, needless to say I was very angry and dissapointed
So I headed over to ebay, I wasn't finding anything to great (price wise) but then I found a O2 locked brand new HD2. As I was going to use an O2 PAYG sim card anyway, I decided that that would be the phone I bought
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Everything seemed fine, but just now I've been reading around on forums (includng xda) and Ive seen that O2 models mess around with the HD2's software, ripping some of the things out of it (like the wifi router), so now Im worried im not going to have a very good version.
+ The phone is an unwanted upgrade from the guy on ebay, I didnt think that would make any difference going together with a PAYG sim, but now Im worrying.
Final question, will I have O2 branding on the back?
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No external branding from what I'm aware, but using goldcard / hardspl (when its out) you can flash to any standard rom and get the features back

damn you optiknerv, you beat me too it

Wow thanks guys, another LOAD off my mind, geez xda forums are great
So there are no problems right?
Oh and what are your views on the fact that its somebody elses contract upgrade?

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Wow thanks guys, another LOAD off my mind, geez xda forums are great
So there are no problems right?
Oh and what are your views on the fact that its somebody elses contract upgrade?
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If you got it cheap and it aint broke. Fool them!!

Mines O2 free upgrade on my contract. There is zero branding on the hardware and pretty much the only O2 branding i have seen on the phone is there wallpaper. I have filled out the form on there website to get it unlocked in case I ever need to use it on another network.
The only problem i have with it is that i am going have to jump through the hoops of using the goldcard method the flash it but i guess that's not to hard.

bzdemes said:
Mines O2 free upgrade on my contract. There is zero branding on the hardware and pretty much the only O2 branding i have seen on the phone is there wallpaper. I have filled out the form on there website to get it unlocked in case I ever need to use it on another network.
The only problem i have with it is that i am going have to jump through the hoops of using the goldcard method the flash it but i guess that's not to hard.
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What do you mean by jump through hoops, whats the problem?
Also could you send me a link to the form for unlocking? I'm thinking it might be a good idea for the future. Could I unlock now and keep my O2 PAYG card in it as normal, I could right? It would just be like using the sim card in a phone that was locked from the start

bzdemes said:
Mines O2 free upgrade on my contract. There is zero branding on the hardware and pretty much the only O2 branding i have seen on the phone is there wallpaper. I have filled out the form on there website to get it unlocked in case I ever need to use it on another network.
The only problem i have with it is that i am going have to jump through the hoops of using the goldcard method the flash it but i guess that's not to hard.
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What form is that? Havent heard of that.

branded HTC devices
I made some bad experiences with an o2-branded HTC Touch HD from Germany. In case of warrenty HTC told me to contact an o2-shop in order to get it repaired. It took some extra time to get it back because I had to give it to o2 (and they sent it to htc) Therefore I decided to buy a HTC HD2 without any branding to avoid this kindergarden games this time and forever.
The second point is that (if you don't want do use HSPL) branded roms are published not that regularly as stock-unbranded are.
PS: o2 costumers help each other all across Europe, don't they?!!

weichei said:
I made some bad experiences with an o2-branded HTC Touch HD from Germany. In case of warrenty HTC told me to contact an o2-shop in order to get it repaired. It took some extra time to get it back because I had to give it to o2 (and they sent it to htc) Therefore I decided to buy a HTC HD2 without any branding to avoid this kindergarden games this time and forever.
The second point is that (if you don't want do use HSPL) branded roms are published not that regularly as stock-unbranded are.
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That is true but he has bought it second hand and so he doesnt have a warranty as a second owner. Flame me if ive got buyers rights wrong.

Good choice. You can install the WiFi router separately and the total ammount of branding on the phone is the wallpaper which you can change. And the O2 doesnt seem to have half the bugs that people are complaining about.
My handset speaker doesnt crackle, all of my SMSs send with no problem, there are no spelling mistakes and all is well with the phone!

I think this is the correct link
https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset Unlocking Form
basically O2 are unlocking there phones for free. Sounds like it takes a while for them to give you the unlock code. Think it told me 28 days or something. I am in no rush to have it unlocked just figured its worth doing just in case.

That is true but he has bought it second hand and so he doesnt have a warranty as a second owner. Flame me if ive got buyers rights wrong.
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Yeah thats one of the only problems I have with it, Its not really second hand though, its unopened, but I guess that still kinda counts as SH. Heres a question for you, is there anyway I can get new warranty on it from either O2 or HTC ?

Reading the warrenty agreement in my O2 HD2 i bought on ebay, it mentions about second hand buyers, (i should have read it a bit more); but its a case of, if you can show proof of purchase, it should be no problem.

MidnightDraven said:
Reading the warrenty agreement in my O2 HD2 i bought on ebay, it mentions about second hand buyers, (i should have read it a bit more); but its a case of, if you can show proof of purchase, it should be no problem.
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Ahh, well it was an upgrade, so He said there was no reciept with it? shall I just ask for all paper work he has for it ?

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Ahh, well it was an upgrade, so He said there was no reciept with it? shall I just ask for all paper work he has for it ?
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He will be able to print his receipt in his "My o2". I can print all my upgrades etc from this screen. Although the info in minimal, its better than nothing. Also take a note of his address and print off the ebay item as proof of purchase.
Please also note, regardless that the phone is second hand you will have warranty with it. The warranty is covered on the handset regardless who owns it. fact.

Mines an upgrade and the only bit of paper work i have for it is a single piece of paper confirming the order that came with the handset. Pretty much just has my name, the phones name and a return sticker on it. So i don't imagine he will have anything that will help you use the warranty.

It needs to be your proof of purchase.
Otherwise there's no proof it belongs to you.

In the end Ive decided Im going to cancel the one on Ebay and buy a brand new one from expansys, it may be a little more, but at least its got warranty, I can return the product If I need too and its not unlocked.
I just hope the guy on ebay doesn't get too angry at me

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Getting a replacement X1i

I have an X1i from O2 in the UK.
It has a few problems. First of all is the crack near the stylus, another is a crack next to the camera lens area, but the most annoying the 3.5mm jack being very very dodgy. It is difficult to get the right channel to work, that is using various sets of earphones including the SE supplied ones.
How do I go about getting a replacement? Is it O2 I need to speak to or is it SE?
You can go back to the store where you bought your X1.
If you ordered it through the internet, go to the site where you bought it.
Looks like I'll backup my stuff tonight and have a trip to the O2 shop!
Exchange??
Lokatho said:
You can go back to the store where you bought your X1.
If you ordered it through the internet, go to the site where you bought it.
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Hi,
it would be nice if this would be so easy.
I have 3 cracks in the case by now and fighting about more than 7 weeks with Sonystyle and SE here in USA, guess what. NO replacement, they ignoring the emails, transfere me from one person to another and so on.
On top, i would have to pay for the repair.
So if you have other information or "written examples" for exchange, please share.
greetings
I went into the O2 store I got the phone from and they are willing to take it in for repair. There was no mention of cost and they said it'd most likely be replaced.
Also, is it best I flash my X1 with a stock firmware just in case they get arsey about custom firmwares?
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I went into the O2 store I got the phone from and they are willing to take it in for repair. There was no mention of cost and they said it'd most likely be replaced.
Also, is it best I flash my X1 with a stock firmware just in case they get arsey about custom firmwares?
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Yes, because only if you have an original firmware will you receive any form of service.
An original firmware includes the updates as given in the thread by Pavel X1
Do you have to revert the spl back to normal? Will they check?
hi i just realise it too today my x1 has crack below the power button and the plastic caseing holding the battery i got it from o2 too but i got my phone through upgrade in november last year will they fix it? i didnt drop it or so this cracks just develop naturally thats not really good about the qc
ant_thomas said:
I went into the O2 store I got the phone from and they are willing to take it in for repair. There was no mention of cost and they said it'd most likely be replaced.
Also, is it best I flash my X1 with a stock firmware just in case they get arsey about custom firmwares?
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Definitely yes!
Flash back to the stock O2 R10A ROM and flash the SPL back to the stock one while you're at it. It is the sort of thing that they do notice and bill you later on.
I'm also sending my X1i back to O2 for the crack by the battery compartment. I've had the phone less than 2 months. They're bringing my refurb handset tomorrow and taking my original one away. In fact my posting about it is here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3474988&postcount=680
X807, since you're in the UK, the magic words are "Sale of Goods Act, as amended" and "not fit for purpose". If O2 try to fob you off to SE, remind them that under the Sale of Goods Regulations you have the contract of sale with the retailer, not the manufacturer. It is up to the *retailer* to arrange repair or replacement.
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Yes, because only if you have an original firmware will you receive any form of service.
An original firmware includes the updates as given in the thread by Pavel X1
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Come to think of it... that question has always been at the back of my mind. What if your X1 was unable to power on? Had sent my X1 for servicing cos of that before. If that's the case you wouldn't be able to flash back to the original firmware. Guess that's one of the reasons for me holding back from using a custom firmware till now.
ZenithUK said:
Definitely yes!
Flash back to the stock O2 R10A ROM and flash the SPL back to the stock one while you're at it. It is the sort of thing that they do notice and bill you later on.
I'm also sending my X1i back to O2 for the crack by the battery compartment. I've had the phone less than 2 months. They're bringing my refurb handset tomorrow and taking my original one away. In fact my posting about it is here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3474988&postcount=680
X807, since you're in the UK, the magic words are "Sale of Goods Act, as amended" and "not fit for purpose". If O2 try to fob you off to SE, remind them that under the Sale of Goods Regulations you have the contract of sale with the retailer, not the manufacturer. It is up to the *retailer* to arrange repair or replacement.
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Right, all sorted ROMwise, I went into the O2 shop where I bought it to sort it out and I was nicely informed (or maybe fobbed off) that another employee in the shop who will be in tomorrow and supposedly has an X1 and had the same problem. But what he did was find online a list of models which was in a bad batch, printed it off and took it to O2 and got an instant replacement in the shop. I've now come home with my X1 and I'm looking for said list. Bare in mind I'm dubious of anything official here.
Since I've been around these parts for long enough (Previous Orange SPV Original owner) I knew that surely here would be the first place to look. Only "list" I can find is on the first page of the cracks thread, and yes mine is one of them, 08W46.
Maybe this is the list, who knows, but I will print the page off and take it to them, and hopefully speak to this guy.
It seems the link in question was
http://xperia-x1.com/xperia-x1-starting-to-show-some-cracks/
So it's not official and the person who originally told me of an instant replacement it talking a load of bollocks.
I am now sending it directly back to SE. Hopefully I'll get a replacement but obviously I'm not overly confident.
u'll most likely get a new one.. i had an issue with my phone where the volume key wasn't working and sent the phone to SE and i got a new one in like 4days..

HD2 - sealed box - what's a fair price?

Right guys, I have received my FIFTH replacement HD2 today and I'm not even going to open the box, it's for sale. So what would a brand new, sealed box HD2 - on the O2 network - be worth on the market? I see they can be had unlocked from Play.com for £499 with free delivery and the ones on Ebay are probably used and messed around with, so I think mine is worth more than they go for....any ideas?
Will be worth less than that if it's got an O2 ROM I think its safe to assume, also O2 HD2's appear to be locked according to one of the threads on here
How come you're simply not accepting it from O2 and cancelling the contract? I assume that if you sell it then you have to continue paying for it till the contract runs out.
Brand new sealed HD2's are going for between £380 and £450 on ebay, with brand new ones that are not sealed going for a touch less. However, most have been around the £400 mark. I have been watching intently over the past week as wanted to buy one.
The cheapest I could find on the internet was £469.99 on offer from eXpansys. However, on sunday I was out having a coffee with my wife and popped into carphone warehouse on the off chance they might have a HD2, and see if they'd price match.
Much to my amazement their price for a brand new factory sealed SIM free HD2 was £449.95, so I got out my credit card and bought it there and then. My iphone 3G 16GB is now up for sale on ebay to recover some of the cost of my HD2, and then in6 weeks time when I'm due an upgrade I'll sell that as well. I was just too impatient to wait for my upgrade
johncmolyneux said:
How come you're simply not accepting it from O2 and cancelling the contract? I assume that if you sell it then you have to continue paying for it till the contract runs out.
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Due to the number of replacements I've had, I'm now over the 28 days and therefore can't cancel my contract. If I purchase a different handset with the proceeds from the sale, that can be my 'contract' phone if you like. Sure I'll still be tied to the original contract but I'll have a phone so it will make no difference.
sunking101 said:
Due to the number of replacements I've had, I'm now over the 28 days and therefore can't cancel my contract. If I purchase a different handset with the proceeds from the sale, that can be my 'contract' phone if you like. Sure I'll still be tied to the original contract but I'll have a phone so it will make no difference.
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Getcha. Sounds like O2 win here though, despite not being able to supply you with a satisfactory handset. I'm sure if it went as far as court then you'd win, but who's gonna go that far for a phone?
DMAND said:
Will be worth less than that if it's got an O2 ROM I think its safe to assume, also O2 HD2's appear to be locked according to one of the threads on here
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Yes, they are locked apparently. O2 unlock them free though, if you email them. Can take up to 28 days. I don't want to open the box and unlock the phone because then it would be classed as 'used'. If anyone wants to unlock it there is no problem doing so...
johncmolyneux said:
Getcha. Sounds like O2 win here though, despite not being able to supply you with a satisfactory handset. I'm sure if it went as far as court then you'd win, but who's gonna go that far for a phone?
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Exactly. What's the betting this phone sat here in the sealed box is *perfect* too.
Hi - this is true - i placed the other forum thread "HD2 locked" - i got my unlock code last night. Turns out that mine was obsolutely brand spanking new and o2 hadnt generated the code to unlock it - the previous owner/ebayer put in a request for the code (it took about 3 weeks) - i am now unlocked!!
@Sunking,
You decided on a price yet?
WB
wacky.banana said:
@Sunking,
You decided on a price yet?
WB
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Nope, got any ideas? I was thinking around £430 but I'm not sure if that's too lo-ball.
It's probably too high ball if you ask me. You've got three things in your way:
1. It's branded to O2 (yes, it's easy to unbrand and customise now we've got HSPL but it's an additional step and it's a negative)
2. It's sim locked to O2 (you'll have to request an unlock code from O2 and it takes about 2 weeks - but crucially you seem to have to use your O2 registered sim you bought the device against to get the correct code)
3 - Anyone on O2 can buy the exact same thing as yours for £365
May I ask what issues you have had with the phone? I've got one from O2 myself (only one) and have not noticed anything amiss.
kai_ said:
It's probably too high ball if you ask me. You've got three things in your way:
1. It's branded to O2 (yes, it's easy to unbrand and customise now we've got HSPL but it's an additional step and it's a negative)
2. It's sim locked to O2 (you'll have to request an unlock code from O2 and it takes about 2 weeks - but crucially you seem to have to use your O2 registered sim you bought the device against to get the correct code)
3 - Anyone on O2 can buy the exact same thing as yours for £365
May I ask what issues you have had with the phone? I've got one from O2 myself (only one) and have not noticed anything amiss.
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£365? Where??
sunking101 said:
£365? Where??
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O2 haven't publicised this very much, but an existing O2 contract holder can buy one SIM free for £365 (in fact it was £277 for the 1st day, by mistake!)
Not all shops or call centre staff know about it, and some say it is business customers only, but that is incorrect.
We had a thread on it Here but no posts in the last week!
NeilM said:
O2 haven't publicised this very much, but an existing O2 contract holder can buy one SIM free for £365 (in fact it was £277 for the 1st day, by mistake!)
Not all shops or call centre staff know about it, and some say it is business customers only, but that is incorrect.
We had a thread on it Here but no posts in the last week!
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If the shops don't know about it and the call centre staff don't know about it, I'll expect it's a tall order to purchase one at that price then. So basically my brand new HD2 is worth (much) less than a used one on Ebay....
id probably say 400 at the most for it
sunking101 said:
If the shops don't know about it and the call centre staff don't know about it, I'll expect it's a tall order to purchase one at that price then. So basically my brand new HD2 is worth (much) less than a used one on Ebay....
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The spoiler for most people is that you have to already be in an O2 contract. I suspect those that do know about it are selling on at the 'normal' Ebay price
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The spoiler for most people is that you have to already be in an O2 contract. I suspect those that do know about it are selling on at the 'normal' Ebay price
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Yeah but I want to do a buy it now....can't be watching the price go up to £44,000 at the end of the auction because some idiot scammers have decided to ruin it! I was just trying to get an indication of what price to set.
There are two for sale on ebay both at 360, one is still sealed and one isn't.
Doesn't seem like there is much difference with sealed and unsealed. Although the sealed one is locked to T-Mobile.

What are my rights?

Sorry mods, I didnt know where else to put this. Feel free to move it if this isn't a good place.
Ok, So I sent my phone in for repair (a backlight problem) and they sent it back after 2 weeks, and its still exactly the same.
So Ive sent it back again.
But in all honesty, Im not happy paying my monthly bill for a phone Ive not been using.
So do I have the right to demand a refund/not paying next month?
Also, Can I demand a brand new phone if it comes back broken again this time?
thanks guys
Boinngggggggg
Your signature says that you're running a custom ROM. If that's true then I wouldn't expect that you have any rights because you will have voided the warranty. What did they tell you when the phone was returned last time?
jakem said:
Your signature says that you're running a custom ROM. If that's true then I wouldn't expect that you have any rights because you will have voided the warranty. What did they tell you when the phone was returned last time?
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I flashed everything back to stock so there is no sign Ive had a custom rom.
They said they couldn't find a problem at all with the phone. They re-flashed the software for me So i guess its a hardwear problem with the acctual phone....
lonelykatana said:
I flashed everything back to stock so there is no sign Ive had a custom rom.
They said they couldn't find a problem at all with the phone. They re-flashed the software for me So i guess its a hardwear problem with the acctual phone....
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OK. I think the first step will be for you to get HTC to agree that there's a problem with the phone. Until that happens you don't really have a leg to stand on because the phone company will simply argue that you're not owed a refund because there's no problem with the phone (and I think they'd be right to say that).
Once you've proven that the phone is faulty you may be able to contact the phone company and ask for a refund. Unfortunately I don't know exactly what your rights are in this case but it seems reasonable that you shouldn't have to pay for the time when you were unable to use your contract phone. Maybe someone with a bit more expertise can jump in and help here.
The main point though is that you need to prove that you have a problem before you can ask for your money back and I don't think you've managed to do that just yet.
but your still using the SIM right?
Can you take it to their high street shop and demo them the fault? Does the backlight come on at all?
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but your still using the SIM right?
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No because I dont have a backup phone...
Can you take it to their high street shop and demo them the fault? Does the backlight come on at all?
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No its the oppersit, It doesn't go off....
But thats not what Im asking.
lonelykatana said:
No because I dont have a backup phone....
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then i'd argue with them till im blue in the face! i dont think you should be paying for a service you cannot use. at the very least they should knock it off your next bill or credit you what you've paid already...
id politely argue the point that you cant use your sim without a working handset and since the one they provided is faulty they either have to provide a backup handset whilst yours is being repaired or credit your account.
not sure how it would all work out but its worth a go.
as for the other stuff... if they keep sending it back saying there isnt a problem then you need to be able to prove that there is.
My experience...
My HD2 is off for repair, and as I haven't got insurance which would have entitled me to a loan hand set, VF UK have credited me with a month’s worth of my line rental. Used that to buy a crappy PAYG Nokia and popped my contract SIM in to it. It has £10 of calls on the PAYG SIM I can keep 'in case of emergency, which means I am actually only £10 down.
in the uk if you return something 3 times for the same fault and on the third occassion it still has the same fault you have the law on your side which i believe states they have not made reasonable effort to resolve the problem and they have to replace the device with the same model or another of equal value.
i had a similar thing with vodafone and they ended up giving me a 3gs for my broken hd2 as they had no hd2's or desires in stock.
vodafone didn't charge me for the 2 months it took to send it in and out for repair as i was being inconvenienced through no fault of my own.
on your repair notes it should state the fault you sent it in for each time. phone trading standards or at least threaten to if they don't sort it out
Johnston411 said:
in the uk if you return something 3 times for the same fault and on the third occassion it still has the same fault you have the law on your side which i believe states they have not made reasonable effort to resolve the problem and they have to replace the device with the same model or another of equal value.
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That's what they've told me on '3 strikes and you're out', but also that have some HD2's in reserve for situations like this...
There must be a way for you to put your plan on hold so you don't pay the plan since you are not using it... all the matter of coordination and loosing time
Johnston411 said:
in the uk if you return something 3 times for the same fault and on the third occassion it still has the same fault you have the law on your side which i believe states they have not made reasonable effort to resolve the problem and they have to replace the device with the same model or another of equal value.
i had a similar thing with vodafone and they ended up giving me a 3gs for my broken hd2 as they had no hd2's or desires in stock.
vodafone didn't charge me for the 2 months it took to send it in and out for repair as i was being inconvenienced through no fault of my own.
on your repair notes it should state the fault you sent it in for each time. phone trading standards or at least threaten to if they don't sort it out
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Ahh thats made me happy
Im glad to know Ive not been left with no cover.
Thanks guys

[Q] Tips & Pointers Needed for buying a HTC Wildfire

Hi All,
I need some tips and pointers on buying a htc wildfire on gumtree. The person is saying that it is brand new in box used for 2 hours.
Could you tell me some things to look out for and to check when buying second hand.
you could probably ask if the phone has been updated to 2.2.1
If you are wanting to root it or think you might at a later date you really dont want a 2.2.1
gmd1 said:
you could probably ask if the phone has been updated to 2.2.1
If you are wanting to root it or think you might at a later date you really dont want a 2.2.1
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Hi, its gonna go to my mother i dont think she would know how to root or something like that, would there be anything else to look out for?
yea make sure ure not recieving a lump or painted resin :/
how can it be brand new and used at the same time?
how much is he asking, is it unlocked or locked?
ephbee said:
how can it be brand new and used at the same time?
how much is he asking, is it unlocked or locked?
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maybe the shop owner use for himself for awhile.....
amtzone said:
maybe the shop owner use for himself for awhile.....
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in that case it's a demo phone, not brand new. brand new should be factory sealed.
as new maybe
ephbee said:
in that case it's a demo phone, not brand new. brand new should be factory sealed.
as new maybe
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Hi, its not from a shop, the person said its was a present for his girlfriend but she never wanted it and used it for 2 hours, i think it locked to vodafone. Im not sure if i can post the link to the ad on xda, can i do that?
how much is it, if your on a different network you'll have to pay to unlock it, but it will still be loaded with voda apps that you won't be able to use, and i would imagine a vodaphone splash screen when you boot. if you do get it for a good price and its still 2.1 you could root and flash a custom rom which will get rid of preloaded bloatware. also i'm not sure if warranty is transferrable.
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how much is it, if your on a different network you'll have to pay to unlock it, but it will still be loaded with voda apps that you won't be able to use, and i would imagine a vodaphone splash screen when you boot. if you do get it for a good price and its still 2.1 you could root and flash a custom rom which will get rid of preloaded bloatware. also i'm not sure if warranty is transferrable.
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hes selling it for £160 but i think i can budge him down to about £20 down, What do you recon should i just buy one new?
that seems a bit excessive, they are selling over here brand new on prepaid for$299
australian, according to exchange rates about 187 quid
and i've seen as low as $260. they are locked to a carrier same as the one you are looking and also unlocked on ebay for $280. in the end of course its your call, but if you have to unlock its going to cost as much as a brand new phone and have bloatware from voda.
and if there is something wrong, with a retailer you can normally get an immediate swap if less than 14 days old, i would presume you would need original receipts from 2nd hand phone for warranty sake.
Used is used, even if its 5 minutes.
You never know what he has done with the phone.
I just suggest you to buy a brand new factory one, that way you will never have any problems, and even if you will, they will be easily solve-able.
The extra cash is well worth it.
I got a used one from e-bay for £130 a couple of months ago but they were selling them for £129-99 in Phones4U a couple of weeks ago but you had to pick a network and buy £10 top up, but I dont know if the deal is still available

[HELP] Am i being scammed?

Need some advice XDA. (im from the UK)
im aware of the common scam of second hand contract binded phones sold on eBay and other marketplaces where after they have been sold a few month down the line there IMEI is blacklisted and blocked and there is nothing you can do about it.
Is this happening to me?
I bought a s7 edge from eBay (sealed box g935f)
It was described as being "no network logo's factory unlocked"
I received it, opened it and it booted with 3 (three) network logo and then when i got through set up it was filled with reinstalled 3 network Apps.
now as far as i know if a mobile is has this branded firmware it is binded to a contract... am i wrong?
i messaged the seller and he assured me it was not a contract phone but was purchased from 3 and he said being as its a unlocked phone he assumed it would not have any logo branding on the software and seeing as he did not open the box he couldn't be sure.
in the end i asked for a receipt.. he provided this delivery note (attatched file) (i have crossed out his address and imei in paint)
-yes that really is the original picture quality (god knows if he really is just taking the piss or eBay hosting is terrible)
after i questioned this delivery note and bad quality image he got very irate and simply asked me to return the device for a refund and began accusing me of being a scammer saying that he will get the police involved if i send back a different handset and try to pass it off as the one he sent
What do you think?
is he trying to scam me with a contract phone?
or is he being honest can a non contract phone be on a network branded firmware?
Resumen:
its not a Scam, make sure that it works and keep it.
the logo is because of the rom.
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Look, this will help you, Three and other companies have the option to sell unlocket or locket phones, but all of the phones, has the Three's ROM, the rom, make sure that the phone works, and u have data and all, its fine..
misterashman said:
Need some advice XDA. (im from the UK)
im aware of the common scam of second hand contract binded phones sold on eBay and other marketplaces where after they have been sold a few month down the line there IMEI is blacklisted and blocked and there is nothing you can do about it.
Is this happening to me?
I bought a s7 edge from eBay (sealed box g935f)
It was described as being "no network logo's factory unlocked"
I received it, opened it and it booted with 3 (three) network logo and then when i got through set up it was filled with reinstalled 3 network Apps.
now as far as i know if a mobile is has this branded firmware it is binded to a contract... am i wrong?
i messaged the seller and he assured me it was not a contract phone but was purchased from 3 and he said being as its a unlocked phone he assumed it would not have any logo branding on the software and seeing as he did not open the box he couldn't be sure.
in the end i asked for a receipt.. he provided this delivery note (attatched file) (i have crossed out his address and imei in paint)
-yes that really is the original picture quality (god knows if he really is just taking the piss or eBay hosting is terrible)
after i questioned this delivery note and bad quality image he got very irate and simply asked me to return the device for a refund and began accusing me of being a scammer saying that he will get the police involved if i send back a different handset and try to pass it off as the one he sent
What do you think?
is he trying to scam me with a contract phone?
or is he being honest can a non contract phone be on a network branded firmware?
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Who cares, flash BTU firmware and problem solved. In my country, a lot of people by phones they don't need on contract then resell them to make money. Nothing shady there. If the imei is clean, why worry?
Stevica Smederevac said:
Who cares, flash BTU firmware and problem solved. In my country, a lot of people by phones they don't need on contract then resell them to make money. Nothing shady there. If the imei is clean, why worry?
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In the UK people get a phone on contract with insurance sell them on ebay wait a month or 2 and then report it stolen . They get replacement phone and the guy who bought his old one gets a blacklisted IMEI and can't do anything about it
bathcrow said:
Resumen:
its not a Scam, make sure that it works and keep it.
the logo is because of the rom.
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Look, this will help you, Three and other companies have the option to sell unlocket or locket phones, but all of the phones, has the Three's ROM, the rom, make sure that the phone works, and u have data and all, its fine..
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So how can I tell if the phone is binded to a contract?
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So how can I tell if the phone is binded to a contract?
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you should call three and ask them if the imei is binded, because you bought it.
bathcrow said:
you should call three and ask them if the imei is binded, because you bought it.
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Unfortunately 3 won't release any information about it because Im not the one that bought it from them :/
misterashman said:
Unfortunately 3 won't release any information about it because Im not the one that bought it from them :/
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sadly i cant help you further than this.
bathcrow said:
sadly i cant help you further than this.
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Thanks anyway! I think I'm just gonna have to return it. I can't afford to risk it.
As far as I know 3 don't sell phones separate from a contract unless you pay more than what Samsung charge lol
misterashman said:
Thanks anyway! I think I'm just gonna have to return it. I can't afford to risk it.
As far as I know 3 don't sell phones separate from a contract unless you pay more than what Samsung charge lol
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Three branded ROM but apparently it is unlocked? Suspect. He could have flashed a Three ROM on there but why didn't he say this? Suspect. Typically three branded ROM will come from Three directly.
Take videos of the phone working/booting up. Take multiple pictures of the phone from all angles. Return it via special delivery, probably £6-8 but totally worth it for peace of mind. He won't be able to claim it not being delivered since it MUST be signed for. Special delivery will cover you for around £500 in compensation (Can be bought new from Amazon for around £475).
Hope it all goes well. If you can, buy from a reputable company next time.
Galactus said:
Three branded ROM but apparently it is unlocked? Suspect. He could have flashed a Three ROM on there but why didn't he say this? Suspect. Typically three branded ROM will come from Three directly.
Take videos of the phone working/booting up. Take multiple pictures of the phone from all angles. Return it via special delivery, probably £6-8 but totally worth it for peace of mind. He won't be able to claim it not being delivered since it MUST be signed for. Special delivery will cover you for around £500 in compensation (Can be bought new from Amazon for around £475).
Hope it all goes well. If you can, buy from a reputable company next time.
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Thanks for the advice I'll make sure to do that, going to post it today.
Galactus said:
Three branded ROM but apparently it is unlocked? Suspect. He could have flashed a Three ROM on there but why didn't he say this? Suspect. Typically three branded ROM will come from Three directly.
Take videos of the phone working/booting up. Take multiple pictures of the phone from all angles. Return it via special delivery, probably £6-8 but totally worth it for peace of mind. He won't be able to claim it not being delivered since it MUST be signed for. Special delivery will cover you for around £500 in compensation (Can be bought new from Amazon for around £475).
Hope it all goes well. If you can, buy from a reputable company next time.
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Nowadays, phones from Three are sold unlocked, but still have some Three branding due to the CSC.
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foxmeister said:
Nowadays, phones from Three are sold unlocked, but still have some Three branding due to the CSC.
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Yeah I didn't mean in the traditional sense that the phone is sim-locked, but that it is still branded somewhat, so it's more likely that it is an unwanted network upgrade from Three directly.
lol, what is this?
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