Hi Gang!
I started my HTC journey with the original Touch which at the time was an unbelievable device.
I used to have a CPU throttling utility that would underclock the CPU to bare minimum when not in use and would overclock it under heavy usage.
The result was better performance and lower battery consumption.
Does such a software exist for our HD2? Or maybe it's already doing that throttling natively?
If this is available i would like to have this application as well. It would be nice for the small battery pack.
BTW, would they release a new battery with a higher volt/wattage?
Well, for the app if its out there come to us
Been thinking the same and this should have been included in the device in the first place. I believe Toshiba TG-01 has this. Would help improving the quite disapointing battery lifetime. Lousy HTC...
Alisha said:
Been thinking the same and this should have been included in the device in the first place. I believe Toshiba TG-01 has this. Would help improving the quite disapointing battery lifetime. Lousy HTC...
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Idk if Toshiba has it, but still i would go for the HTC HD2 because this device is magnificent. It has it all and you can do with it all. If I didn't got a girlfriend I would do the other stuff with it to hahaa
Well fortunately I got one so don't be afraid for some weird news haha..
Well, I'm not here to discuss HD2 shortcomings, although there are always things to improve with *any* things.
Anyways...
I have looked at CPU throttling utilities for the Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU and it appears indeed that the Toshiba TG01 has such utility. It's not clear at this point if it's an OS-level utility and it seems that it needs to be manually set.
I'm new at xda so I'm not sure whether somebody could port that app for our HD2 and automate the throttling...?
I guess if we're able to develop a HSPL for the HD2 then this is doable as well... provided that there is enough interest in it.
Thoughts?
Have you tried nueDynamicClock?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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I'm not sure it supports Snapdragon...?
And I'm actually more interested in underclocking/undervolting that overclocking, 1 GHz is plenty fast for me so far
gshdtwo said:
I'm not sure it supports Snapdragon...?
And I'm actually more interested in underclocking/undervolting that overclocking, 1 GHz is plenty fast for me so far
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Yea, I guess it might not support 1GHz... But it is intended for only underclocking, not overclocking....
Idk, it'd be interesting to try.
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dwizzy130 said:
Have you tried nueDynamicClock?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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doesnt work at all.
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i am wondering if there is any possibility to overclock the cpu of the HD as it was possible on old HTC devices with omap processors?
i often found the HD to be very slow and i would like some more speed 9as probably most of us)
would it be adviseble to overclock it?
thanks for any useful info!
would be very cool! i bet htc is running it in a ridicolous safe speed =)
no infos on that matter?
any tech guy with some more experience?
nobody?
i did some research in to the matter, and there are some things that can be changed but i believe its just timeings, at the moment it would appear that you can not adjust the clock speed its self.
Also, changing the timings seemed to have a negative affect on stability, id imagin that whilst the clock speed may be running low, the timings are about as tight as you can get.
anyone tried using Pocket Hack Master yet?
will try it out tonight
I tried it but it didn't work. May not have been the right version perhaps.
It was a few weeks ago so I can't remember what actually happened when I tried it sorry.
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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i wonder what software that would be?
can you point it for us? any details about it? would it be dangerous for HD integrity?
just installed it, then bells rang..... ur processor is not supported, looked rubbishw when the app loaded up. all distored, defiantely not meant for our wvga. Soooooo whats this qualcom overclocking software... i will explore google see what i can find.....
id give up, i searched for ages to no avail, i believe the only thing that can we tweaked are various timings but it seems that almost any attempt improve these results in instability and crashing.
I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/
Updated: March 2, 2009
WTF?!?!?!anyone tested stability of the 2 day old version?
HappyLlama said:
I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/
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This won't work - the Touch HD has a Qualcomm processor NOT an OMAP
Yes Please let us in on the action
well, i've saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507798&highlight=overclock , but you guys read carefully, its apeears to be no effect, through if it has, every processor u overclock have its life shortened...i've a blue angel, 400 mhz working at a 200~530, xscale processor can do this (change it's frequency accordinto to the necessary) but i wond the Qualcomm ones do the same (according to the post appears to not, but it's no cleary).
everyone may say...so all you said righ now is a load of crap... Thats not, i'm just sharing wat i've discovered until now, since i've gone to blackstone few day ago.
Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks
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Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks
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i think most if not all winmo is slow but i love it still lol
Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
SimPRoBer20 said:
yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
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+1 for the android, I am waiting with alot of hope! haha
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its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
He needs to suck his battery power out!
kholk said:
He needs to suck his battery power out!
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Exact, already drains more than enough
To answer the question, no, there's no overclocking app that works on the HD2.
Really the answer is
"Yes, write an app and overclock it!"
....but I recommend not to do this, the HTC HD2 gets hot at 1GHz when doing intensive things, like executing flash content and remember that we aren't in the summer when the external temperature reaches over 37°C.
If it gets hot with an external temperature of 14°C, imagine at 37°C.
My PhenomX4 for example is overclocked (with overvoltage) from 2.5GHz (stock) to 3.4GHz (OC) and I remember that in the summer I had to put it at 2.8GHz because it got too much hot!
Winter: 32°C(idle) - 54°C (full load)
Summer: 53-55°C (idle). I didn't want to try at full load. lol
Anyway, remember that a PC CPU has got a huge cooler on it, while the SnapDragon hasn't got it and there isn't too much heat dissipation. Remember then that the SnapDragon is a mobile CPU that is supposed to work at a low temperature (PC CPUs are supposed to work at high temps) and it is supposed to NOT reach 45-50°C, so beware!
as far as the gps question goes... i use ALK's CoPilot 8. It's only $30 and is a full featured gps app. You get free live local search, free map updates and more. If you want live traffic info it's only $20 a year.
SimPRoBer20 said:
Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
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Telenav works great for me. I use for free. If you know some one that has an unlimited sprint account u can log in using there phone number and the pw is the last 4 of of the number.
I'm be more interested in undervolting and underclocking it. The standard voltage is what is needed for ALL the processor chips to work at the speed, however most can use less than that voltage and still do the same speed and be stable.
I undervoltage my laptops and it makes them run cooler and get better battery life.
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its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever. thats the main thing about the HD2 and Nexus. I waited for this to come out so i can get it mod it and run it at its full potential.
I have my LEO in the mail now or ordered any way. cant wait to get it. I want to see win 6.5 but im a bigger fan of android. I have modded all of my phones and Im a big HTC fan. Cant wait to see what this brings.
If your worried about battery life get an extended battery. As for heat, hey small price to pay for speed increases. Unfortunately until someone actually writes an app that can cpu scale, nothing can be assumed.
~Jasecloud4
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever
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it already scales to 1ghz when it needs to. It can scale quicker than the OS can start opening programs, so say it is idling at 700, you click to start a program, it is already doing 1ghz by the time you release your finger from teh link.
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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Yeah, that would be awesome, to get this thing up to 1.5!! But...if somebody did, the battery might not even last long enough to take a screenshot to prove it
How can i overclock or set my cpu speeds??
......new to winmo
Android man, tryin somethin new tho
There is no program that can overclock the QSD Chips! There isn't one even for the old MSM so I'm not optimistic that there ever will be such a prog!
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There is no program that can overclock the QSD Chips! There isn't one even for the old MSM so I'm not optimistic that there ever will be such a prog!
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no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
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no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
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can you please give me a link to this program?
SimPRoBer20 said:
no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
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And here are most of the tweaks I use!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
yea sure, this is the link for setcpu for android phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
SimPRoBer20 said:
yea sure, this is the link for setcpu for android phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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The only question I have now is WHY didn't someone did such an app for WM?
OrionBG said:
The only question I have now is WHY didn't someone did such an app for WM?
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Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
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Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
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haha my battery life is amazing on this, plus i see lags in the programing n a higher cpu frequency would deff fix them. plus if my battery life was bad, i could then scale down my cpu n conserve battery life...
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Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
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1. Proof of Concept?
2. Because Adroid Have it!
I can think of some more
AMEN!!!
seems like winmo ppl arent as enthusiastic about there developing.
Comin from the android forums....where is the love for winmo..or is there any...
new ****s comin out daily for android.
id love to get an android port goin for my leo, itd b a much more beautiful piece of technology
At the same time, there's still no decent multi format video player on android... and that actually matters a lot more than overclocking a few MHz
True, multimedia is more serious, but (i know, i know here goes) the Droid is overclockable to nearly double it's clock speed and still remains kinda stable. If the HD2 could even be overclocked just 300-400mhz it would really be insane. The Nexus is already being pushed, why not push the HD2?
sounds like one quick way to have a very expensive paperweight,
1ghz is more than enough for what is primarily a telephone. perhaps if applications were followed more, updated, improved etc etc and took efficent use of the hardware availible then overclocking wouldn't even enter your mind.
overclocking should stay in home computers (its cheaper to fix ) i see no reason to attempt to get an extra 1mhz out of a phone worth £470 only to see it exhale a small puff of smoke and turn into 50pence worth of scrap...
get involved with the development of the apps you use, make them better, thats the way forward
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sounds like one quick way to have a very expensive paperweight,
1ghz is more than enough for what is primarily a telephone. perhaps if applications were followed more, updated, improved etc etc and took efficent use of the hardware availible then overclocking wouldn't even enter your mind.
overclocking should stay in home computers (its cheaper to fix ) i see no reason to attempt to get an extra 1mhz out of a phone worth £470 only to see it exhale a small puff of smoke and turn into 50pence worth of scrap...
get involved with the development of the apps you use, make them better, thats the way forward
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what's a pence? is that like a penny? jk jk lolol...there are safeguards built into every chip to prevent it from going over the engineering redline. so if you do go too far...and ignore the signs (and there will be plenty) then shame on the operator for being a dumb-a**...to each his own...
lol thats true, im sure some overly keen 'clocker will no doubt prove us wrong... many moons ago i did overclock my i-mate JAM another 50mhz or so in order to gain and extra few fps when watching .wmv movies... the battery life was shocking though!
oh, and a 'pence' is a completely pointless denomination of currency...several thousand years of social evolution and we still use coins???
paper ftw
I honestly still cant wait for an android port for this beauty!!
Don't quote me on this but isn't the HD2 underclocked to 750Mhz?
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Don't quote me on this but isn't the HD2 underclocked to 750Mhz?
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it scales as required. this was much discussed in regards to the 1ghz hack.
If you really want to be the first one to get over 1Ghz of super duper processing power from your HD2, i suggest you use Pocket Hack Master
Remember, neither the developer of this app nor anyone at xda-developers is responsible if you somehow manage to f*** it up, also, the latest version was built in 2008
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.
remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
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JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2
i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
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Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***
Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.
11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?
@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds
most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/
i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers
I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.
Hey guys,those lucky bas*ards over at the G2 forums have a kernel with overclocking up to 2GHz.Where is the DHD version of it,huh?
Yeah,I know,such a high overclock will most probably damage our phones and battery will go completely all the way to hell,but c'mon!Don't any of you wanna try it?Plus,we get 3200+ @1,6Ghz while the G2 gets just over 3000(something like 3006) @2Ghz in quadrant!Imagine what the DHD will do with 2GHz!And we are supposed to have better quality CPUs!
So come on,dev up!
With the current UK temperatures the only benefit of having a 2Ghz overclock would be a warm hand/pocket.
As a technical exercise/project it may have some benefit, but practically what use is a DHD that will get really hot, really quick. And then the battery dies, or the thermo cut out kicks in.
I would never clock at 2ghz...that's asking for trouble and the voltage would be to risky...no one is going to make a 2ghz kernel for the DHD
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Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
tolis626 said:
Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
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Well..I guess it is a matter of risk...
I am no expert, but I can imagine overclocking to 2Ghz, if possible, will require a lot of overvolting and may seriously affect your cpu....for the worse...
Even for a short time, if you are not sure what will happen, are you really willing to potentially give up your phone?
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Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
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Yeah it can be done...There is a 1.7ghz kernel out..(its a risky overclock so its not for download on the public forums)
You can drive a car with your feet if you want to but that doesn't make it a good idea
2ghz is twice its clock speed...if you really want 2ghz then wait for the dual cores...1.5ghz is the max safe overclock...and even then its not been tested over a long period of time.
Saying the G2 is stable at 2ghz is meaningless.....there are so many different variables, its just not that black and white.
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Yeah it can be done...There is a 1.7ghz kernel out..(its a risky overclock so its not for download on the public forums)
You can drive a car with your feet if you want to but that doesn't make it a good idea
2ghz is twice its clock speed...if you really want 2ghz then wait for the dual cores...1.5ghz is the max safe overclock...and even then its not been tested over a long period of time.
Saying the G2 is stable at 2ghz is meaningless.....there are so many different variables, its just not that black and white.
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I guess you're right...But there must be someone crazy enough to try!Well,one has to wait,right?Thanks for the replies by the way!
And btw,the G2 requires to be overvolted @1500mV.
tolis626 said:
I guess you're right...But there must be someone crazy enough to try!Well,one has to wait,right?Thanks for the replies by the way!
And btw,the G2 requires to be overvolted @1500mV.
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which is over 35% more than stock DHD
No!
Using any CPU frequency that is not default ( underclocked or overclocked ) requires testing and manipulating the various variables. The CPU needs to be in sync with the GPU and the other parameters. Needs modifications in the kernel itself. The device is not made to run at those frequencies. You will burn your device, sooner or later.
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You will burn your device, sooner or later.
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Yes and device can freeze the most of times.