Hey guys,those lucky bas*ards over at the G2 forums have a kernel with overclocking up to 2GHz.Where is the DHD version of it,huh?
Yeah,I know,such a high overclock will most probably damage our phones and battery will go completely all the way to hell,but c'mon!Don't any of you wanna try it?Plus,we get 3200+ @1,6Ghz while the G2 gets just over 3000(something like 3006) @2Ghz in quadrant!Imagine what the DHD will do with 2GHz!And we are supposed to have better quality CPUs!
So come on,dev up!
With the current UK temperatures the only benefit of having a 2Ghz overclock would be a warm hand/pocket.
As a technical exercise/project it may have some benefit, but practically what use is a DHD that will get really hot, really quick. And then the battery dies, or the thermo cut out kicks in.
I would never clock at 2ghz...that's asking for trouble and the voltage would be to risky...no one is going to make a 2ghz kernel for the DHD
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Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
tolis626 said:
Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
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Well..I guess it is a matter of risk...
I am no expert, but I can imagine overclocking to 2Ghz, if possible, will require a lot of overvolting and may seriously affect your cpu....for the worse...
Even for a short time, if you are not sure what will happen, are you really willing to potentially give up your phone?
tolis626 said:
Why not?I mean,not for everyday use,I wouldn't do it too!But for some time to do some benchmarking etc it would be really nice!Plus the G2 seemed really stable @2GHz.
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Yeah it can be done...There is a 1.7ghz kernel out..(its a risky overclock so its not for download on the public forums)
You can drive a car with your feet if you want to but that doesn't make it a good idea
2ghz is twice its clock speed...if you really want 2ghz then wait for the dual cores...1.5ghz is the max safe overclock...and even then its not been tested over a long period of time.
Saying the G2 is stable at 2ghz is meaningless.....there are so many different variables, its just not that black and white.
rixsta said:
Yeah it can be done...There is a 1.7ghz kernel out..(its a risky overclock so its not for download on the public forums)
You can drive a car with your feet if you want to but that doesn't make it a good idea
2ghz is twice its clock speed...if you really want 2ghz then wait for the dual cores...1.5ghz is the max safe overclock...and even then its not been tested over a long period of time.
Saying the G2 is stable at 2ghz is meaningless.....there are so many different variables, its just not that black and white.
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I guess you're right...But there must be someone crazy enough to try!Well,one has to wait,right?Thanks for the replies by the way!
And btw,the G2 requires to be overvolted @1500mV.
tolis626 said:
I guess you're right...But there must be someone crazy enough to try!Well,one has to wait,right?Thanks for the replies by the way!
And btw,the G2 requires to be overvolted @1500mV.
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which is over 35% more than stock DHD
No!
Using any CPU frequency that is not default ( underclocked or overclocked ) requires testing and manipulating the various variables. The CPU needs to be in sync with the GPU and the other parameters. Needs modifications in the kernel itself. The device is not made to run at those frequencies. You will burn your device, sooner or later.
asim.sidz said:
You will burn your device, sooner or later.
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Yes and device can freeze the most of times.
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Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
pinhead said:
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
SimPRoBer20 said:
yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
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+1 for the android, I am waiting with alot of hope! haha
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its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
He needs to suck his battery power out!
kholk said:
He needs to suck his battery power out!
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Exact, already drains more than enough
To answer the question, no, there's no overclocking app that works on the HD2.
Really the answer is
"Yes, write an app and overclock it!"
....but I recommend not to do this, the HTC HD2 gets hot at 1GHz when doing intensive things, like executing flash content and remember that we aren't in the summer when the external temperature reaches over 37°C.
If it gets hot with an external temperature of 14°C, imagine at 37°C.
My PhenomX4 for example is overclocked (with overvoltage) from 2.5GHz (stock) to 3.4GHz (OC) and I remember that in the summer I had to put it at 2.8GHz because it got too much hot!
Winter: 32°C(idle) - 54°C (full load)
Summer: 53-55°C (idle). I didn't want to try at full load. lol
Anyway, remember that a PC CPU has got a huge cooler on it, while the SnapDragon hasn't got it and there isn't too much heat dissipation. Remember then that the SnapDragon is a mobile CPU that is supposed to work at a low temperature (PC CPUs are supposed to work at high temps) and it is supposed to NOT reach 45-50°C, so beware!
as far as the gps question goes... i use ALK's CoPilot 8. It's only $30 and is a full featured gps app. You get free live local search, free map updates and more. If you want live traffic info it's only $20 a year.
SimPRoBer20 said:
Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
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Telenav works great for me. I use for free. If you know some one that has an unlimited sprint account u can log in using there phone number and the pw is the last 4 of of the number.
I'm be more interested in undervolting and underclocking it. The standard voltage is what is needed for ALL the processor chips to work at the speed, however most can use less than that voltage and still do the same speed and be stable.
I undervoltage my laptops and it makes them run cooler and get better battery life.
CDR123 said:
its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever. thats the main thing about the HD2 and Nexus. I waited for this to come out so i can get it mod it and run it at its full potential.
I have my LEO in the mail now or ordered any way. cant wait to get it. I want to see win 6.5 but im a bigger fan of android. I have modded all of my phones and Im a big HTC fan. Cant wait to see what this brings.
If your worried about battery life get an extended battery. As for heat, hey small price to pay for speed increases. Unfortunately until someone actually writes an app that can cpu scale, nothing can be assumed.
~Jasecloud4
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever
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it already scales to 1ghz when it needs to. It can scale quicker than the OS can start opening programs, so say it is idling at 700, you click to start a program, it is already doing 1ghz by the time you release your finger from teh link.
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
jasecloud4 said:
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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Yeah, that would be awesome, to get this thing up to 1.5!! But...if somebody did, the battery might not even last long enough to take a screenshot to prove it
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.
remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n
JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2
i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
p.s.
Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***
Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.
11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?
@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds
most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/
i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers
I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
thx
tomeu0000 said:
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
thx
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In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
atticus182 said:
In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
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I would encourage you to do a little more research into overclocking. Some kernels allow up to 1190mhz through setCPU and i have played games at this speed - so for real life use that speed has been stable. A thorough benchmark will better test the stability, but only if you raise the voltage will the CPU's life be effected, but if by only a small amount then you will probably upgrade before the CPU is anywhere near giving up. I do agree with the post above that there will be little noticable change in experience, but this will show in benchmarks.
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Read my thread dude
I'm thinking of buying this in August or sometime near that month and I have seen various reviews regarding this phone. It's very cheap and well worth the price. Since full custom roms can be flashed, exactly how much faster can you make the Blade? It's clock speed stock is 600Mhz, how much can you safely overclock too without heating problems or too many reboots? How much faster in general?
mine doesn't overclock that much i use 672mhz and would only get a reboot once in 2-3 weeks i can overclock to 710mhz but get reboots twice a day, but as with all overclocking it's different on different devices, some people have said they get 768 with no reboots
Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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agree.
how fast your proc can go is really depend on your chip, because every chip is unique.
some can stable at 710Mhz, some even can stable at 800Mhz.
just reading this, iv had a pulse, a wildfire and now a blade, all of them i cant go over 710mhz lol
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And keep in mind that overclocking has a huge impact on battery life
@ Will
Seems you have very bad luck.
you wouldnt believe it lol, even my scroll tablet is supposed to rin at 800mhz but its been set at 720 lol, im using wbaw rom now and its set at 600mhz, tho i cant complain cause its really good
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Yeah, overclocking hardly makes much difference in terms of performance.
This phone screams at 1.5ghz, why do people feel the need to overclock?
Overclocking in the long run can damage your phone; is this CPU capable of it?
Also, the technology in this should be capable of running everything underclocked, don't you think?
I had a sensation before and had to overclock that to make it usable. This phone requires no such thing. I would underclock this to increase battery life because I know it's still going to be just as smooth!
So there are my thoughts, sorry about the disorganized manner by which I worded and placed them. Discuss
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Overclock is rarly needed but feels good.lol.cant resist the urge:*)
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I completely agree with you. It runs so smooth and fast as it is I see no reason to bother overclocking.
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Agree, OC is not a Mod I need with this fast bad boy!
Even with overclocking on my SIII and Galaxy nexus it still wasn't even close to as smooth as this N4 is without any mods at all. Overclocking is not necessary for this beast. The only reason I would flash a new kernel would be to possibly fix the on screen coloring to be less washed out but even that doesn't bother me.
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Even with overclocking on my SIII and Galaxy nexus it still wasn't even close to as smooth as this N4 is without any mods at all. Overclocking is not necessary for this beast. The only reason I would flash a new kernel would be to possibly fix the on screen coloring to be less washed out but even that doesn't bother me.
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Could try this if you're rooted. I'm not, so can't test with stock kernel:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
Undervolted (-100mv) and underclocked to 1.026Ghz, still runs smooth as ever, so my answer would be "No."
And after reading about people getting the red LED of death, I'm not keen to OC even if it was needed. I did so on my GNexus but the CPU in that was terrible IMO.
stock kernel is feel warm when use for awhile, so im not even bother to oc, not trying to ruin this beautiful baby
Simple answer, no. Unless you are a tinkerer or live in a cold weather climate and want a really hot hand warmer
Shouldnt overclocking make it slower? The phone throttles itself pretty hard at the slightest heat increase. If the phone was underclocked it would perform better in benchmarks because it wouldnt get throttled.
Besides I never understood the point of overclocking top end things that far exceed the requirements of current applications. Its not like there are any apps that run too slow. I only overclock my computer after it becomes too slow to handle modern tasks.
Let's overclock to 2.5ghz for the hell of it. We need to own the benchmarks.
Joshua3109 said:
I had a sensation before and had to overclock that to make it usable. This phone requires no such thing. I would underclock this to increase battery life because I know it's still going to be just as smooth!
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I had a sensation too, and when that was first released there were threads asking why people felt the need to overclock that.
The dilemma is that clock speed has very small impact on battery compared to the screen, and the wake lock issue that sucks power in your pocket does not help either. so more clock speed appears to contribute very little to total battery usage.
faun_h said:
Undervolted (-100mv) and underclocked to 1.026Ghz, still runs smooth as ever, so my answer would be "No."
And after reading about people getting the red LED of death, I'm not keen to OC even if it was needed. I did so on my GNexus but the CPU in that was terrible IMO.
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Running at 1.026GHz you should be able to undervolt to -400 or more. That's what mine is running at.
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Undervolted (-100mv) and underclocked to 1.026Ghz, still runs smooth as ever, so my answer would be "No."
And after reading about people getting the red LED of death, I'm not keen to OC even if it was needed. I did so on my GNexus but the CPU in that was terrible IMO.
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I think red led of death is caused by stock charger!
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I think red led of death is caused by stock charger!
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I've gotten it without the stock charger and with.
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I want to overclock mine since it doesn't handle NDS emulating (well, one game I want to play) very well.