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So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
CHPunk said:
So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
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you can get rid of about 95% of the blur, some has to stay but its being worked on, custom roms are just starting to roll out. However the kernel is locked so no major tampering with the cpu yet.
I had the inc for about a week or two, X is a big upgrade. I wouldnt switch back.
The Droid X wins in every category you can think of but UI(senses). Custom roms/themes are being worked on, and since we rooted and have deodex'd we are fastly moving foward....
So you guys think I should switch? And would you say it's easier or harder to root than the Inc?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have the best phone possible for the next 18 months lol.
Droid X is easy to root on 2.1 just use Universal Androot Beta 1.6.2(Link is clickable) for easy installation of apk for phone for a 1-click root solution. but if you want root on 2.2 require a bit more work but its still easy.
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
CHPunk said:
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
dr154 said:
if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
But I came from the INC and I can basically do EVERYTHING that I coulddo with the INC on the X... except kernal modding.. obviously.
MrDanger said:
That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
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You know it MrDanger...
only issue you may have, well 2. When taking pics you will think they are horrible when looking at them on the phone, but when you look at them on a comp they are better than the inc. Just something i noticed when switching. And if you frequently use the speaker, (music or voice) the volume is stupid low...
Just thought i would give you a heads up on the only things i have noticed.
Thanks for the help guys, only problem is after going to verizon today I kind of want the Fascinate
I suppose the screen is a big plus, but I hear it feels cheap when compared to the build quality of the X.... not that I beat my phone up on purpose...
I have both (got my X today). Sense and it's quirks are vastly superior to Blur, but I won't keep a phone stock if I can find a real vanilla build. I do miss things like having a dialer that doesn't suck and some of the skins for sense. I could use Sense builds, but I can tell there is no way I'll want to use any of the Blur crap (except DNLA, which looks neat).
The device itself the X wins hands down. The look and feel of the actual device is just.. better. It's faster overall (I get quad scores about as fast as my SkyRaider build without OC) and the screen looks great and it doesn't ever lag for me. The downside is that it's huge and I don't use a case. One slap in the junk with this thing from my pocket when I was trotting down some steps had me thinking twice.
But the INC has lots of customizations and badass devs (SkyRaider/Cyanogen/Virt/Redemption and now Ruby), and I'm kind of just checking out how active it is over here to see how much support it will get. I know the Ruby guys just got an X so that would satisfy me pretty well and they seem to have 2 or 3 devs that seem dedicated.
In a few weeks/months I think the X will have some good things coming. Once they do, I will like the phone more than the INC.
Just remember the Fascinate does not have a LED notifier but there are some hacks around. There is no HDMI out either. I have to admit the screen colors are amazing as well as the form factor, but it almost feels cheap. I love the screen size on the DX, its fast, ruins cool and the developers are flocking to the device since Koush made the Bootstrap recovery. Some of the developers already are, Pete(BB), Koush, ChevyNo1, Birdman, P3, cvpcs(Sapphire), the guys behind Rubix, JRummy was talking recently about getting one and I am sure I missed a few. I would also like to see the UnRevoked team get their hands on a DX to work their bootloader magic.
New Roms on their way are FlyX 1.0 and Obsidian(cvpcs) said he only needs a week from delivery of his X for release which means it could be by next weekend.
Sent from my DROIDX
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have the incredible for a few weeks now, a few days left in my 30 day window (like 4 haha). I like the device, but the battery life irks me (which is kind've silly since I'm not a heavy user and have had no issues making it through a day with the stock battery. still, I'd like a device that I can use without watching the percentage drop in a few minutes). My two brothers got the X, I went with the incredible as (mostly) I was impatient and liked the hackability it has. Having actually used the device, the ability to load custom roms is nice and all, but using a stock rom isn't really much of a difference for my use. Of concern to me is primarily dumping the Verizon trash but as long as the phone's rootable it's doable. I use Skyraider vanilla but I don't have any real reason that I couldn't use a stock rom.
I've spent many hours trying to come to a conclusion and I've not gotten anything conclusive from online posts and such, everyone seems to get caught up in the 'omg its sooooo big', followed quickly by their gripes with the 'blur-but-not-blur' implementation. I use LauncherPro anyways so much of Blur's issues are not a concern. My only reasonable complaint is the hardware buttons on the X's face vs the touch ones on the incredible, but this is minor imo.
I hate having to babysit my phone to get the best of the battery and the bump charging stuff rubs me the wrong way. I'm coming from an iphone 3g and the widget capabilities are so great, but to save battery on my incredible I have only one auto updating widget, despite desiring more. Separate concern is how Verizon would handle the return since I'm near to my 30 days and the X wouldn't ship for a handful of days, and returning the incredible before that time would render me without a phone. I'm probably going to call them tomorrow and see what they'll do. Perhaps I can get the phone and see how it fares in my normal usage patterns.
If anyone has any input I would much appreciate it as I need something to push me over the edge. Granted, this is the X forum so I doubt anyone will give the incredible much love.
Hi all,
I am a Milestone2 user from China.
Did anyone ever care about the way the phone vibrates? I tried MS1, MS2, DEFY, DROID X, I like the feel when DROID X vibrates, much better than the others. It seems there is a gradual intensity in vibration of DROID X.
My question is, is there a way to copy the vibration "feel" from DROID X to other MOTO android phone, such as our MS2 or DEFY(my wife is using this)?
stanley_opt said:
Hi all,
I am a Milestone2 user from China.
Did anyone ever care about the way the phone vibrates? I tried MS1, MS2, DEFY, DROID X, I like the feel when DROID X vibrates, much better than the others. It seems there is a gradual intensity in vibration of DROID X.
My question is, is there a way to copy the vibration "feel" from DROID X to other MOTO android phone, such as our MS2 or DEFY(my wife is using this)?
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That's suggestive
waigx said:
That's suggestive
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Hahahahaha! Oh god xD
Anyway, I think it depends on the hardware how your phone vibrates, not software hehe
well, maybe there is a way to replace hardware driver of vibrator(don't think about sex...)
waigx said:
That's suggestive
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I agree =P
stanley_opt said:
well, maybe there is a way to replace hardware driver of vibrator(don't think about sex...)
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You want to replace a vibrating mechanism? Don't you have any more interesting things to do?
mkmck said:
You want to replace a vibrating mechanism? Don't you have any more interesting things to do?
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Define interesting?
Not replacing hardware but driver for hardware
if you ever tried droid x, and you are not those who are born to hate vibration, I think you will like the feel.
Like G Flex and G Pro2
The hardware is pretty the same, except cpu and ram, that are not a problem for software side
So yes, the rom is 100% fruible, but devs ,maybe, will need to resize thing to match our resolution
erto90 said:
The hardware is pretty the same, except cpu and ram, that are not a problem for software side
So yes, the rom is 100% fruible, but devs ,maybe, will need to resize thing to match our resolution
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thank you
The video below shows it best, but basically, the touchscreen on my Turbo 2 doesn't seem to track the touch point until after it's moved about 60 or so pixels away from the original point of touch. After that, it tracks just fine. It's somewhat problematic when trying to finely control something like the slider on a video player's progress bar, because if you want to seek only a few seconds behind, you have to make a larger drag backward in order for the touchscreen to pick up the drag and then drag back to where you wanted to seek.
I'm confused by this because my previous smartphone (Galaxy S4) tracked movement instantly from the original touch point without this kind of "dead zone." Is this normal for this handset?
The forums won't allow me to post a link or embed yet, so here's the copy/paste link to the video: youtu.be/J35FE4inzJo
I used the "Yet Another MultiTouch Test" app in the video (and the stylus to make it easier to see).
My phone acts the same as your video. It is not something that has caused me any issues so far.
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Back in Atrix 4G, Moto implemented feature to prevent digitizer to be confused by rain drops. Years after looks like that they're still doing the same. Back then it was easy to fix but root access is needed.
Here is the original topic about that "feature" for Atrix 4G (still have it, not feature, Atrix ) and here how to fix it with just editing conf file. Maybe something similar can be done for Turbo 2/Force.
calash said:
My phone acts the same as your video. It is not something that has caused me any issues so far.
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Thanks for confirming this for me. At least now I know it's an intentional behavior of the phone and not something wrong with mine. I really wish it didn't exist though because it can be annoying at times. Though having come from the Galaxy S4's slow and buggy TouchWiz, I suppose the Turbo 2's butter smooth Android experience and really nice Moto features make up for it, Verizon bloatware and slow updates not withstanding. :good:
Zeljko1234 said:
Here is the original topic about that "feature" for Atrix 4G (still have it, not feature, Atrix ) and here how to fix it with just editing conf file. Maybe something similar can be done for Turbo 2/Force.
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Thanks for looking that up. It'd be quite nice if editing a file could fix it. I'll look into, but i'm betting it won't be so simple, if possible at all.
NobleOne18 said:
Thanks for looking that up. It'd be quite nice if editing a file could fix it. I'll look into, but i'm betting it won't be so simple, if possible at all.
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If is not hardware limitation (doubt it is) or hard coded in the kernel or system should be easy to fix. Even if is in the kernel, Moto should release source soon and it's fixable again. So only remains that Moto may have special digitizer...
Is there any way we can change the boot screen animation on the Turbo 2 yet? It seems like unlocking the bootloader is possible with the Moto X Force but TBD on the Turbo 2. I know that will open up a lot more options, but until then that whole blue ice Turbo 2 animation is really tacky.
It's better than the pulsating Droid eyeballs
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It's better than the pulsating Droid eyeballs
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I dunno, if you ever had to restart your phone late at night, I'd take one giant "DROIIIIIID" eyeball vs the 30 seconds of random there music playing when the DT2 reboots.
One of the first things I do with root is disable boot sounds and camera sounds.