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try this to speed up your pocket pc, good programs , try for xda II at 530 mhz
I would have prefered you post all the warnings of using such utlity ... for some unexperienced users this could permanently damage their devices.
For all folks here ... pay all attention to the heat while working on high speeds ... and don't ever try ROM flashing on any speed but the default one (206 for XDA and 400 for XDA II)
Ive been running Gameboy Advance and SNES roms, using XPU scalar @ 530Mhz for hours and hours. The device gets VERY hot after 5 hours, but it still fights on without a restart...
Although, ive tried other clocking apps @ 600mhz and then it got so hot it restarted itself...
I use Pocket Hack Master and have had my device up to 1689Mhz without any ill effects, though this is apparently unusually quick for an XdaII - the SDRAM usually can't handle 147MHz.
With PHM, mine scales between 399MHz and 589MHz depending purely on load, I've been using it for about three months with no apparent problems.
I tried it on i-mate ... the device is frozen if I use 530 MHz
Mine runs fine at 530 and 473... I even did a benchmark in BetaPlayer; huge improvement at 530; however, I decided to back it off to 400 to save on batteries.
Biso007 said:
I tried it on i-mate ... the device is frozen if I use 530 MHz
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Probably the SDRAM can't handle the 133MHz - it's the first thing that usually falls over. You could put the multiplier down to 1/2x from 1x and it would probably work but that would mean your RAM was only running at 66MHz.
ok i must be real tired...
how the heck do you install this program from those files??
Questions :
- At 472 MHz as well as at 530 MHz, the memory is underclocked (50 - 66 MHz). I ask if it would be possible to maintain the memory around 100 MHz (+/- 10 MHz) during the overclock.
- Does the XScale CPU have the frequency fixed at 400 MHz ? Intel didn't think to dinamical frequence switch ? (like in Centrino or P4M) ? Because if not, then this software would allow battery economy. But it's weird, Intel wasn't able to do the same thing ???
With PHM you can choose whether to 1/2x or 1x clock the SDRAM and the LCD. I use 1x, so when I'm running the CPU at 590, the memory is running at 147MHz, most Xda II's won't handle this but it appears I was really lucky and got very good RAM in mine.
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Questions :
- At 472 MHz as well as at 530 MHz, the memory is underclocked (50 - 66 MHz). I ask if it would be possible to maintain the memory around 100 MHz (+/- 10 MHz) during the overclock.
- Does the XScale CPU have the frequency fixed at 400 MHz ? Intel didn't think to dinamical frequence switch ? (like in Centrino or P4M) ? Because if not, then this software would allow battery economy. But it's weird, Intel wasn't able to do the same thing ???
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Are you sure in underclocked? I am sure the memory clock is set to standard freq. with all the benefits,like stability and faster processor clock (472-530)
You can verify it downloading other Overclocking applications,like made from Mamaich.
I verify with CPUID, it shows all PDA frequencies. I can post screenshots, at 530 MHz, the memory runs in 66 MHz.
That's why I posted my question.
err..so whats the best setting when using the XCPUScaler?
And how come cannot access settings for over 500Mhz? Mine goes up to 475only
In Option select 'show frequencies over 500mhz'
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I verify with CPUID, it shows all PDA frequencies. I can post screenshots, at 530 MHz, the memory runs in 66 MHz.
That's why I posted my question.
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Use Mamaich Overclock program with:
L 27
M 4
N 1,5
You will obtain SDRAM and MEM LCD 100mhz,CPU 597mhz PXBUS 199mhz
I've Benchmarked it with GX BenchMark with no good results.
So,best performance for gaming you will obtain on 530Mhz
unapproachable2kx said:
Use Mamaich Overclock program with:
L 27
M 4
N 1,5
You will obtain SDRAM and MEM LCD 100mhz,CPU 597mhz PXBUS 199mhz
I've Benchmarked it with GX BenchMark with no good results.
So,best performance for gaming you will obtain on 530Mhz
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Done that.
But at 530 MHz, my memory cames down to 66 MHz thus not 133 MHz, I think it doesn't support anything above 100-105 MHz.
Now I want to benchmark myself , I'll try to find GX Benchmark.
I only regret the downclocking function of CPUScalar, that saves battery (can somebody confirm ?)
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Prada said:
try this to speed up your pocket pc, good programs , try for xda II at 530 mhz
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Could you tell me how to install even I copied all the files to my XDA2 .[/quote]
After many hard-resets,installation of system files and progrs..
I can finally assure that CALLER-ID program seriously give conflicts on overclocked Cpu frequencies,more than 472Mhz..(like 530,ecc..)
And drains more battery power.
Just let you know..
Now is your choice..
To tell u the truth, i use xCPUScalar for a month in advanced mode:
0-15% - 300
16-40% -400
41-70% -472
71 -100 -530 and have no problems at all.
BTW - CallerID is a very uncertain subj by itself.
i also use xCPUScalar for a month in advanced mode:
0-15% - 200
16-40% -400
41-70% -400
71 -100 -472 and have no problems at all.
But I don't see where I can get over the 472 limit??
I have a XDA (QTEK 2020) with a 400MHZ chip.
I see you guys talking about 500 and more sometime???
and this is possible, where XCPUScalar indicate 472 MAX ?
Thank you
PS: OK I get it, I just forget to enable the "show frequency over 500MHZ"
Now I see 530MHZ.
Juste hope it's fine like this.
can p3600 be overclocked?
thank you!!!!!!
PS. I have the pocketpchack4 and I overclock it to 450Mhz but I want more.......................!!
nope.. pocketpc hack doesn't really work. If you run benchmarks at 200, 400 and 450 mhz, you'll get the same readings. So far, nothing out there can really modify the cpu speed.
As far as I know, there's no working program so far.
hi,there are news?
i'll want overclock my device.
the p3600i have the same processor of p3600?it work @500mhz...good...!
p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
Rudegar said:
p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
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and then I can't overclock...bad bad bad...
it's impossible have cpu 500mhz...?
I think that was the same processor...
only the same processor as a pentium 1.4Ghz and pentium 1.8Ghz is the same processor
overclocking is running the component in this case the cpu out of specs
how many overclock a cpu can handle before freezing up varies alot
and can shorten it's lifespan and give alot shorter battery lenght
Hello All
I've just found this line in Eugenia's ROM thread:
"*- CPU scales to a maximum of 1GHz instead of 712MHz"
Is it true that the CPU is limited to 712MHz in the shipping ROMs?
If Yes this may explain the lower performance compared to ACER F1 and Toshiba TG01
I was wondering this too
This could do with some deeper investigation by the experts amongst us...
If this is true, I can imagine the HD2 FLYING when we have custom ROMs!
Mine is pretty damn fast with ROM 1.48!
it's certainly a very bold claim, without any support to it..
I would like to see what hard evidence there is to support it,
as if it's true, then HTC have been illegally advertising the HD2 as 1ghz capable device..
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it's certainly a very bold claim, without any support to it..
I would like to see what hard evidence there is to support it,
as if it's true, then HTC have been illegally advertising the HD2 as 1ghz capable device..
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Suppose it is so, they did deliver a 1Ghz device, it's just limited for some reasons. First to my mind is battery life. Nevertheless, investigation is required and I hope kholk can clear some things for us since the seed was found in his thread.
fards said:
it's certainly a very bold claim, without any support to it..
I would like to see what hard evidence there is to support it,
as if it's true, then HTC have been illegally advertising the HD2 as 1ghz capable device..
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My point exectly!
The only evidence we have for now is the line I quoted from Eugenia's soon to be released WM 6.5.3 ROM
But I've been thinking for a long time that the lower performance of the HD2 compared to other Snapdragon devices is due to some form of power management lowering the CPU frequence!
fards said:
it's certainly a very bold claim, without any support to it..
I would like to see what hard evidence there is to support it,
as if it's true, then HTC have been illegally advertising the HD2 as 1ghz capable device..
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"HD2 as 1ghz capable"', does not mean it is running at 1GHZ but it could run at that speed, altough implied, but indeed it would be a misleading advert campaign
but i would like some proof too
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Suppose it is so, they did deliver a 1Ghz device, it's just limited for some reasons. First to my mind is battery life. Nevertheless, investigation is required and I hope kholk can clear some things for us since the seed was found in his thread.
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The way its advertised means it would have to actually run at 1GHz, not just be a 1GHz model limited to less.
Unless its just a rubbish claim then i assume the ROM developer means limited to 712Mhz in certain situations, which might be for perfectly good reasons.
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The way its advertised means it would have to actually run at 1GHz, not just be a 1GHz model limited to less.
Unless its just a rubbish claim then i assume the ROM developer means limited to 712Mhz in certain situations, which might be for perfectly good reasons.
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I don't agree: a software underclocked 1GHz CPU is still a 1GHz CPU. The chip is the same.
Not when the phone claims its a 1GHz CPU, which it does. The speed is not the name, its a physical attribute of the CPU that only exists if its actually running at that speed. This has been covered by EU law before, HTC cannot legally sell a phone running a CPU capable of 1GHz and claim its 1GHz if it never reaches that speed.
I suspect this ROM will just force full throttle all the time, which can only be bad for the battery life, but since we cannot flash it yet we dont know the effects, or if it even works at all.
HTC is advertising the HD2 machine as "1GHz capable device", but not as "1GHz device" that it's different.
It's barely legal.
Anyway, there IS evidence. And you can see it using TCPMP and doing some tests using the device's CPU
On this purpose, we've been talked on the xda-devs IRC channel about that, and I'm saying what I'm saying ONLY based on my tests: try to run TCPMP and see the CPU freq that it's reporting: 396-412MHz!
Use a program that is HEAVY on CPU load and run it in background (make sure that it won't close and that it will continue its work even in background) then see che CPU freq in TCPMP: you'll reach a maximum of 712MHz.
Another evidence of this statement is the performance of other SnapDragon machines like the Toshiba TG01.
P.S.: I think that the HTC HD2 will reach its 1024MHz frequency only when playing with the GLES2.0 Qualcomm test game, ELECTOPIA.
Electopia takes the device in EXCLUSIVE MODE, so it's possible that its frequency will be raised to 1GHz.
Its also quite possible that the CPU speed reporting programs do not support the snapdragon properly and report the wrong information.
The phone itself says the CPU speed is 1GHz in the phone hardware properties, this is a claim of speed, not name or theoretical capabilities.
So we're talking about dynamic freq adjustment on the go depending on processing power needed, similar to AMD's Cool and Quiet concept?
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Suppose it is so, they did deliver a 1Ghz device, it's just limited for some reasons. First to my mind is battery life. Nevertheless, investigation is required and I hope kholk can clear some things for us since the seed was found in his thread.
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doesn't work like that does it though? they advertise the device running at 1ghz and it doesn't then that's false advertising..
If (and I doubt looking at the benchmarks) it ran at 700 ish mhz (maximum) then they should have advertised it as such
they don't mention "1ghz capable" here.. They clearly state its CPU processor Speed (not theoritical or otherwise) as
CPU Processing Speed
1GHz Snapdragon™ processor
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/specification.html
and Overview
HTC HD2 delivers an experience your senses have been waiting for. The unprecedented 4.3-inch pixel-packed display is stunning. The world’s first capacitive touch technology on a Windows® phone along with 1 GHz processing power ensure a smooth and lightning-fast response to the lightest touch of your finger
It's like stating it has a 4.3 inch screen and then actually finding it was 3.3 inches because the edge was covered in protective cover..
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/overview.html
not saying this is true at all.. we all know cpus have been scaling for a while, and the HD2 certainly scores high enough in integer testing..
but if that's what it is then they are likely to be in trouble over this.
anyway Kolhk you claim to have it able to scale up, how have you done that?
this way we can try to replicate it
rovex said:
Its also quite possible that the CPU speed reporting programs do not support the snapdragon properly and report the wrong information.
The phone itself says the CPU speed is 1GHz in the phone hardware properties, this is a claim of speed, not name or theoretical capabilities.
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If it reports the frequencies of other snapdragon devices correctly it shouldn't be an issue. And to they can't advertise the device as having a 1Ghz processor unless it runs at that speed(would it be ok for amd and intel to sell 4Ghz chips if they actually run at 2+Ghz, just because that would be their theoretical maximum?). The processor is probably, as mentioned earlier, just scaling back when it isn't used to 100%.
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they don't mention "1ghz capable" here.. They clearly state its CPU processor Speed (not theoritical or otherwise) as
CPU Processing Speed
1GHz Snapdragon™ processor
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/specification.html
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...and I bet if there's a text on the chip inside the device, it states the same on it. As far as I see things, HTC has a device with a 1G Snapdragon CPU which I bought. CPU inside, as described.
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If it reports the frequencies of other snapdragon devices correctly it shouldn't be an issue. And to they can't advertise the device as having a 1Ghz processor unless it runs at that speed(would it be ok for amd and intel to sell 4Ghz chips if they actually run at 2+Ghz, just because that would be their theoretical maximum?). The processor is probably, as mentioned earlier, just scaling back when it isn't used to 100%.
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Actually AMD sells processors like this: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ which actually runs at 1800.
A CPU speed programs needs to support the way the CPU is actually controlled, not just the CPU, so basically the clock generator as well. If The HD2 uses a different method from the F1 or TG-01 then the program wont work.
I just saw that Huawei launched PRO version, they even have firmware for this and website page http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3780 but there's is no info about specifications of phone.
I'm guessing what may be new in that "pro" version. I think it's for Europe only cause softwares are released for europe counties, one of them is mine ( http://page2rss.com/page?url=www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=doListSoftware) and spain.
Maybe somebody knows something more about it?
They also have some Linux package for it http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwi...=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDE1MTM= still don't get it what that package do Drivers or something like source code..
looks like it has 4gb internal memory
It has a upgraded 1Ghz CPU and some various hardware kinks worked out -
Also I'm guessing it will run Gingerbread with the Huawei launcher/skin.
Btw - do you have a method for downloading any of the files/ROMs which you found on the huaweidevice.com website using the page2rss cache ?
i hope its not just for European countries and that they release it everywhere else... SOON
here's the specs:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3066&c=huawei_ideos_x5_pro
Looks like this version got a radio: Analog:Radio Receiver: FM radio (87.8-108MHz) ? (from Hayden18's link) Maybe that is why our u8800 got a radio chipset..
**** HUAWEI than! Just bought X5 and they released PRO version and the price is the same... My carrier sells it for 280$ (i'm guessing that it's PRO version cause i saw in firmware list that they, carrier got firmware for just PRO version).
And no i was unable to get any of those download links from rss feed
But version was 2.2.2 not 2.3
Any possibility to get our FM Radio to function with this Phone's ROMs (or something)?
Or is it a completely different qualcomm chipset? I miss my FM Radio when I commute...
Without custom ROMs the PRO is useless even tough it might be a bit faster.
people, it's not faster, that cpu is almost the same as regular x5's one which huawei CHOOSE to set clock to 800 mhz. only pro in pro xD is 4gb internal storage.
darkado said:
people, it's not faster, that cpu is almost the same as regular x5's one which huawei CHOOSE to set clock to 800 mhz. only pro in pro xD is 4gb internal storage.
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They chose to set it to 800MHz because it's an 800MHz CPU! Read the specsheets for the MSM7230...
The pro uses a MSM8255, 1GHz chip same as the Ideox X6.
flibblesan said:
They chose to set it to 800MHz because it's an 800MHz CPU! Read the specsheets for the MSM7230...
The pro uses a MSM8255, 1GHz chip same as the Ideox X6.
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Exactly my friend is a newer generation of processors, btw it has 2gb for internal sd and 1gb for applications, FM radio.
And no it doesn't have Gingerbread, it has 2.2.2
Later i will submit a print screen of the phone options.
Sent from my U8800Pro using XDA App
Odinforce said:
Exactly my friend is a newer generation of processors, btw it has 2gb for internal sd and 1gb for applications, FM radio.
And no it doesn't have Gingerbread, it has 2.2.2
Later i will submit a print screen of the phone options.
Sent from my U8800Pro using XDA App
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It's not newer generation. They're both Snapdragon S2.
Snapdragon is not the cpu itself, the cpu is called scorpion. The Snapdragon S2 systems have scorpions with 800MHz (our u8800), with 1000MHz (the Pro), and scorpions up to 1.5GHz... maybe these are all different scorpion-processors, maybe not. I am not sure if this always is the same processor with a different clock-setting.
XphX said:
Snapdragon is not the cpu itself, the cpu is called scorpion. The Snapdragon S2 systems have scorpions with 800MHz (our u8800), with 1000MHz (the Pro), and scorpions up to 1.5GHz... maybe these are all different scorpion-processors, maybe not. I am not sure if this always is the same processor with a different clock-setting.
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X5 Pro's cpu: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_msm8255
X5 cpu : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
infact i don't see any differences just pro uses 1Ghz by default, and x5 800mhz. But i think both are overclockable to the same freq. And both have tha same Adreno 205 Gpu. Also pro supports HSPA+ and i think many people don't give a crap about it Because that speed is just theoretical as everything in pc world
Tommixoft said:
infact i don't see any differences just pro uses 1Ghz by default, and x5 800mhz
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The sheets just say Scorpion, but not which scorpion.
flibblesan said:
They chose to set it to 800MHz because it's an 800MHz CPU! Read the specsheets for the MSM7230...
The pro uses a MSM8255, 1GHz chip same as the Ideox X6.
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MSM7230
Recommanded Minimum Clock Frequency: 800 MHz
Recommanded Maximum Clock Frequency: 1000 MHz
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
MSM8255
Recommanded Maximum Clock Frequency: 1000 MHz
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_msm8255
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Seems about the same?
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The sheets just say Scorpion, but not which scorpion.
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it says S2
Tommixoft said:
it says S2
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Please read my other post again. S2 is not the cpu.
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I just saw that Huawei launched PRO version,
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I'm guessing what may be new in that "pro" version. I think it's for Europe only cause softwares are released for europe counties, one of them is mine ( http://page2rss.com/page?url=www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=doListSoftware) and spain.
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We see in this link, the U8800-51 for Brasil-Claro. In the Huawei site we see also that new type.
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I am not sure if this always is the same processor with a different clock-setting.
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sure, it's same as motorola does with defy to defy+, cpu just has higher clock multiplier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3
Wasjust reading this and it says the CPU goes to 1.3Ghz in single core mode. does that mean 4 cores run at 1.2 then it shuts 3 down and bumps one of them to 1.3 if it needs it?
also anyone now the memery the gfx uses
4 cores @ 1.2Ghz = 4.8 G-ops/sec
1 core @ 1.3Ghz = 1.3 G-ops/sec.
So, the answer to your question is yes and no. Under an idle condition (not sleep) where there is little processor load or runnable threads, there will be only one CPU running @ 1.3 Ghz Fmax. (It can of course be running at a slower speed than this based on what the rate governor has decided) If the demand changes so that one or more additional cores need to be brought on line, the Fmax is constrained to 1.2 Ghz, and those additional cores are brought on line as needed. It may or may not have actually been clocking at 1.3 Ghz when this happens, but probably it will be.
This answer applies to the STOCK kernels. All of this behavior is under control of the kernel, and some of the dev kernels alter this code with different behaviors.
cheers.
Niice info man. thanks very much. any idea on how much RAM the gfx uses?
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Niice info man. thanks very much. any idea on how much RAM the gfx uses?
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No clue. Don't even know if the GPU has some private SRAM on the SoC. Consult the Tegra 3 TRM for that. But, a single-layer 24-bit framebuffer @ 1280x800 needs 3MB for a single layer. Add in z-buffering and whatever else the openGL ES (1.0 & 2.0) libraries do with offscreen/onscreen primitive storage in userland memory space and I suppose it can be much much higher than that.
Somehow I sense you are asking about kernel-reserved memory; I don't know if the kernel reserves some minimum amount of general-purpose RAM (e.g. for the framebuffer) or not. Sorry. (Use the force, read the source!)
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No clue. Don't even know if the GPU has some private SRAM on the SoC. Consult the Tegra 3 TRM for that. But, a single-layer 24-bit framebuffer @ 1280x800 needs 3MB for a single layer. Add in z-buffering and whatever else the openGL ES (1.0 & 2.0) libraries do with offscreen/onscreen primitive storage in userland memory space and I suppose it can be much much higher than that.
Somehow I sense you are asking about kernel-reserved memory; I don't know if the kernel reserves some minimum amount of general-purpose RAM (e.g. for the framebuffer) or not. Sorry. (Use the force, read the source!)
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No im thinking more a portion of the 1gb system RAM was given to the gfx to play with. so our system RAM is only say 768mb