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I don't know what about you guys, but I think that our phone cannot "carry out" the load of the WM 6.5.
I have tried all the great ROM's up to now - indeed great improvement, but still not getting to the latest performance, stability as well as power consumer as the 6.1.
We need to admit that our Polaris does not meet the "Vista" of the mobile requirement - and frankly, it is not expected to be like that.
From my point of view, we need to focus over the latest WM6.1 but to update it always with the latest application available in the market.
No other choice but to wait for WM7, maybe it will be lighter and faster than the 6.5.
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.
I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Well, that was my ramble!
Best regards,
Alan
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Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process itself, rather than by the results it may bring
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I agree on this - I was writing my post just as you posted yours. I'm using pcar's and no objections for me, although I believe a lite\naked version could help with the response rate of the device (it's not slow at all, but udk's was just REALLY fast).
I've already asked pcar for a LITE\NAKED version, but poor guy is already giving so much of his time developing the new ROMs as well as the support...i've never seen a cook so active and dedicated...probably the best quality in a cook as you have the confidance that he will work & solve all issues & improvements. But hopefully he will manage to offer a stripped-down version.
It's right! WM6.5 on Polaris is not for a daily usage. I'm so satisfied with 6.1-3lit3VIII.
Well, i do believe wm 6.5 is very good with all new features, but it's just too much for polaris to handle. The best option would be to have all improvements from 6.5 core(HSUPA f.e.) minus all that flashy menus and such.
Also, i cannot stand the way it wants me to use it(mainly fingers), I like my stylus, and i don't want to smudge it with my fingers. Why there isn't a option to let me choose how do i want to control it?
tl;dr make a naked version of 6.5
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DesertsStorm said:
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.
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I agree with the concept of what you have written, however if we will be case specific, the 6.5 version is to "heavy" for our "not young" Polaris. up to WM6.1 (XP) the system could be optimize for very good performance, but since WM6.5 (Vista), the Mobile is consuming 30-40% power (why?) and the response display can be really feel on daily use.
I don't think that this is compare to win98 - it is relative to XP that still continue to be use today, although the Win7 is out....
Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable
100% correct
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I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Agree with every single word, I have nothing to say about the great and huge cookers and there very good work, I just wanted to "heads up" people to re-think again about the current HW Vs the New OS - sometimes, it doesn't work well not meter what you are going to do...
By the way, this is why there is new 1 GHz CPU
Probably I'll stay with the latest 6.1 version up to the time I'll replace my mobile.
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Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
I agree with Yinnon-I also tried 6.5 (Costas early version wich was great),but I saw that the performance in 6.1 is better and got back to M-Amine 6.1-till I buys my new device.
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Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable
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Oh, I do!!! I so MUCH do!! Remember those Win 98 times when you would loose all your work and were forced to reboot just because any inserted corrupt floppy disk or media player that stopped responding would DEFINITELY result in BSOD??? And it didn't matter for me back then that my PC would run like 50% slower with Win2000 because I knew stability and reliability is sometimes more important than speed.
As to the features of WM6.5 I'll repeat that in day-to-day use (like 3 weeks since I've installed pcarvalho's latest ROM) I don't see any major performance problems on my Polaris whatsoever. Battery life is shorter, that's it. Media or GPS software, M2D v.2.0, Camera, 2G calls, you name it - everything runs good and stable. Not rocket-fast, like on some naked 6.1 ROMs but I just don't care, cause 6.1 is a thing of past for me.
P.S. Wanna see some real problems with performance? Try installing 3D drivers and Touch Flo 3D
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Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
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This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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I'm just afraid to think using larger cache in Opera 9.7 in wm6.5...
Wazowski68 said:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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But of course its wrong to run clean ram twice a day! Oh my god! ... manually! Twice a day!!! I would just write a script to do that for me!
No, seriously, people thats for everyone personally to decide what to use and what ROM to cook (maybe those cooks are bored with 6.1 and had enough of it already - didn't you think about that? ) . But don't forget that if there is a problem, it doesn't mean the whole thing is bad and should be abandoned. Maybe you will find it more interesting to try to solve the problem.
I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
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I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
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I totally agree with you...not just with the Polaris but with most of the HTC devices, this is why HD2 is (FINALLY!) a leap in hardware advancements. Ofcourse it still lacks the TV-Out & not sure about the camera but hopefully the camera will be resolved with the LED lighting as it's the light-filter that slows the fps down. I just hope the next-gen devices see the same leaps in technology & power as opposed to small improvements here & there!
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In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
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Exactly, my phone is reminding me of the days of the old pentium 1-2 & upgrading from Windows 95 to 98 to 2000, etc ...as long as the hardware can keep up performance-wise with the new software. We have an amazing community of cooks, testers, and users to keep the best coming, and while a lot of the earlier cooks left, thankfully we're still seeing some good talent coming on to the scene. And hopefully we'll be seeing more naked versions as well!
Eventually I think the polaris vs the new software generations will naturally push us to the newer\faster models with more hardware features to make the most out of... and this is before being dumped again by those cooks with more money hehe
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I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
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I'm with you 100%. btw, regarding the battery & GPS, if you're running the GPS for 4 hours it's going to drain your battery regardless of the OS you're using. In that case for the mountains, consider getting a solar or AA battery-powered charger (should be just a few $).
Regarding 'com5', i've always wanted to ask what is com2, com3 etc... i searched the forums but it was hard to find the right post with those keywords...can someone please explain? Thanks!
Just my 2 cents. I came to Polaris after 3 unhappy days spent with Touch Pro (will not comment it at all) Only thing I dislike with Polaris is a yellowish color temperature of the screen. And thats it.
Wm6.5 is definitely not heavy for Polaris - unless you understand wm6.5 is all about Titanium and Honeycomb start menu. The problem is that cookers mostly post ROMs overloaded with various things that YOU might never need (and cannot edit). Try one of 6.5 kithens (Gullum's is excellent) and clear everything you don't need from it to see how fast wm6.5 can be. My Polaris has some 62 MB free with S2U2, Today Agenda, HTC Home (yep, usability over looks) and pTravel alarm running on homescreen (all cooked into ROM). It is faster compared to 3lite VI naked ROM I flashed to my brother's Polaris. (3lite VI ROM is mentioned only as example, and is one of the best and fastest 6.1 ROMs IMPO).
From my experience wm6.5 biggest advantage is in tweaked interface compared to 6.1 (for example finger friendly tree-dialogue menus, taskbar buttons on the bottom of the screen, finger friendly contacts and calendar apps etc.), with some other minor glitches of 6.1 resolved. Add to that fact that with recent builds you have visible changes between them and you can choose one according to your preferences - gives you something very promising and inevitable.
From user's point of view, there is no much difference among the various cooked ROMs. Some of them are more stable then the other, but there is a minor difference, if at all, from functionality point of view. They basically perform the same and have similar appearance. Since "muscles" the machine is not lacking, there is very little value in speeding up the machine. I would like to see variety of user interfaces, customizations and new functionalities, that will facilitate better utilization of the investment = better fit to my specific needs and taste.
Thank you for your patience.
I also find the constant "this and that rom is 'fastest'" talk kind of pointless in regard to the Leo. Even stock 1.48 is more than fast enough for my tastes. This isn't the Kaiser, where speedups actually meant something.
So i would also like to see more focus on bugless and stable releases instead of "hacking" the system in terms of getting more points in a benchmark.
i am looking at the changelog of each rom and i found minor changes
does this deserve a new rom to be flashed???
really we need the taste of the chefs to be obvious in there roms.
I agree with all of you.
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So i would also like to see more focus on bugless and stable releases instead of "hacking" the system in terms of getting more points in a benchmark.
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This.
As a matter of facts, I flashed some wm 6.5.3 roms, wich were unstable, now I'm on a stock-like-but-on-a-newer-sys-plus-some-updated-packages and I think I will stay there until the new official HTC Rom
I used to flash roms every week with my older HTC, having all the new "leo" features on my phone, but damn, THIS ALREADY IS LEO
Imho, without a new HTC update (or a manila update or a WM7 Leak) we will not see something really new, because the manila build is always the same, and cookers can't do nothing about it (so, non-sense roms are excluded)
After getting HSPL, I tried flashing to 2 popular custom ROMs for LEO only to encounter freeze and manual soft reset which automatically changed to a hard reset... within a day or 2 usage
All my stuff is gone and I had to wait till i return home to re-sync to get back my data..
I don't see others encountering my problem thus not sure why it's happening on my set.. so for now.. it's back to official 1.48.707 till a official HTC ROM update.
My last WinMo phone was the XPERIA X1. With the stock ROM, it was an absolute train wreck. I loved to browse XDA and flash custom ROMs for the interesting hybrid SE Panels / TouchFlo3D ROMs. They were so fast, too, compared to the original SE 6.1. The original was just slow and laggy and frequently buggy as hell.
That was just a year ago.
With the HD2 I find myself not nearly as compelled to flash the ROM. I purchased my HD2 T9193 used (got it in mint condition for a screaming good deal) and the past owner had a custom ROM on there. I actually flashed to an official ROM -- the 1.66 WWE. I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks. The device was snappy, fast, lag-free, and just plain ultra-responsive. I actually liked everything about it, from HTC Messaging and the HTC keyboard to the stock Opera browser to the stock task manager and whatnot. I just felt really at home, and I was really pleased with Sense both visually and in respect to its performance.
Then I see people deriding the stock ROMs thread after thread, blaming it for people's random problems with the HD2. They claim that custom ROMs can fix the problems, but I'm running a stock ROM pretty much trouble-free. The problems I read about that are frequently attributed to stock ROMs are problems I myself am far-removed from, including but not limited to crashing, lag, bugs, and general unsatisfactory performance.
So is it really the stock ROMs that cause so many problems? I'm fairly convinced they represent an excellent way to get a known experience that you can customize fairly easily to exactly the configuration that works for you. I'm very happy with my HD2 and once I get the bloody data connection issue fixed for good I can't imagine the stock ROM will ever give me a misstep. It's just stable and fast as hell for me.
Does the stock ROM just "work" for anyone else?
(I apologize if this is considered a ROM discussion thread [not my intention, but I understand if it is considered so or devolves into one])
I'd prefer a cooked stock-like ROM than any heavily-themed one...if that's what you mean.
I have a stock T-mo Rom, and it's work well for me...Coupla of reg tweaks, and apps. Still has some bugs though..
I too went from the X1 to the Leo (as I affectionally call it over the HD2). I am using the stock 1.72 WWE/HK ROM and am quite happy with it. The thing is there are several things about cooked ROMs that you simply cannot get from a stock ROM (not even by adding .cabs), but the cooked ROMs are always heavily themed.
If I remember correctly, there was only like a handful of X1-based cooked ROMs that matched the look of the stock but had the usability of a cooked ROM, that was my preferred choice.
As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
p.s. Anyone feel sometimes some cooks go insane (in a humorous way) with heavily skinning the interface? Just makes me go oh my god! (completely personal opinion with NO mentioning of names ).
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As for the Leo, there isn't that option just yet.. and regardless, some people (like me) usually stay on the stock ROM to let the cooked ROMs mature, then maybe I'll test one or two out..
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Isn't an option yet? Have you look at the ChuckyROM kitchen? Not all Cooked ROMs are skinned to death (though I agree, some people do have bad taste in themes ) and some are done exactly like stock. If that's not enough, you can always cook your own stock ROM with the added stability and performance tweaks.
I am actually quite happy with the stock T-Mo US ROM. I have not done much tweaking of any kind really. Someday I am sure I will but for now I am quite happy with the phone as it is.
I love stock as well. Tried a couple of coocked (artemis and another one I can't remember) but I am not happy with them at all.
Stock is good. 1.66WWE.
I understand the benefits of cooked ROMs with regard to features and incremental bug fixes, but I don't understand why these benefits come at the expense of the stock ROM's reputation -- that is what I am getting at. I find nothing egregiously wrong with the stock ROM for me now that I've tweaked it sufficiently.
The BEST part about the HD2 is that I always have the option. And the options are all attractive.. I guess there's just too many of them for me to pick just one.
i like my stock ROM don't see any point yet to go for a custom one.i updated to the official one from htc website and hot nolag or problems
There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
I use stock 1.66 ... no problems for me! (well no major ones anyway... got a minor issue with text size when writing an sms but i think every rom has this)
I have the stock 1.72 and I have to say im very happy with it. I would consider a cooked Rom but it will be for curiosity not because of any probs with the stock one.
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It depends on people's taste
I love cook roms because I like 6.5.x finger-friendly style, and in cook rom I dont have to install some apps 1-by-1, and dont have to apply tweaks 1-by-1. Another good things is cook rom decorate the start menu quite well.
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I also flashed the radio, and I was damn impressed after applying g.lewarne's brilliant registry tricks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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I'm still using the stock rom, but of course I've applied CoOkie's Home Tab mod, which should be stock imho.
Can you provide a link to g.lewarne's registry mods? I'm using BsB Tweaks which is pretty good but I'm always looking for more info...
thanks.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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They're pinned in this forum.
I use the 448MB-compatible tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
And the Opera and Cache tweaks from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
All I need are battery-related registry tweaks for improved battery handling (right now I'm on full HSDPA all the time with no 3G handoff = battery drain) and I'll be golden.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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There's no stock ROM with WM6.5.x available, so using a stock ROM is not an option.
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I like this statement. Very true.
I use a custom ROM because the OS has a footprint of under 50Mb with a few tweaks, it's fast, and good looking. WM 6.5 stock ROMs are ugly, and I am spoilt with the finger friendliness of 6.5.x.
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I stayed on the stock ROM for a day. TBH, I bought the HD2 knowing I was going to flash to a Cooked ROM, which I did as soon as I could.
btw, when you're ready for a cooked ROM, you should consider g.lewarne's Series of ROM's which include even more of these tweaks (including the ones for battery life)
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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Now that I've got my data connection issue resolved I'm not sure I'll ever want to reflash to anything. Seriously, every time I hard reset the data connection has issues staying alive for more than 5 minutes. It just perishes dramatically and doesn't return unless I soft reset the device (even the CommMgr wouldn't do it).
I'll figure out the battery tweaks on my own; shouldn't be too hard with an unlocked registry. When I'm ready to flash to a cooked ROM it'll likely be an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there.
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"an ultra-lite ROM that's almost totally naked (little to no cooked-in apps, perhaps even Sense natively absent) so I could get it to exactly the way I want from there."
You just described g.lewarne's ROM Series mate
I've flased the O2 1.72 stock rom and I have no problems to report. It even solved the SMS lag. Along with Cookie, BSB, HD2 Tweak and all the fab clocks from everybody, the stock rom suits me fine.
Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of the roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms the last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
Had an iphone for 2 years. Got my HD quite recently, came with some win6.5 manilla2.5 rom. Tried a lot of roms, and all the time had the feeling of lagginess and slowness.
Then i tried kwbr topaz and rhodium roms and the stock rom. Well this device is meant to be fast afterall. I don't really get why you people use those i_wanna_look_like_leo roms =)
And i don't really see any sense in upgrading windows as well, unless you don't like your manilla, coz titanium is quite ok for a daily use.
So now there's only three roms that i really enjoy: the stock rom (it's meant to be like that), the rhodium/topaz rom (fit just like the stock one, but with some added features)(thank's a lot kwbr), and a clean 6.5 - 6.5.3 rom (haven't really found the perfect one)
i can speak for italian stock rom but every topix beats the sh33t out of the stock rom. cfc compression of tf3d/sense and all the tweaks cant be beaten by the stock rom
My question is can someone direct me to the LINK from where i can Download the Latest WWE Stock ROM, i need only the nbh File because i will use the Stock one with diferent Radio version
I saw alot of Official ROM in the Wiki but they are Uploaded in few Pars and they are on Rapidshare so i will need to download one ROM few days because when i download 1 or 2 times from Rapidshare i cannot download more for today. Also im not sure do this post is Up to Date for this reason im asking you here...
I need a WWE ROM its good enought if its WWE Europe.
I already have on my Desktop PC ROM: RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship
But i don`t know do this is the Latest Avalible? also is writen that is 1.56 so this mean someday in the future when i need to get back to the Stock one and im not with 1.56 Olinex i don`t need to be back to 1.14 Olinex right? because this ROM is 1.56
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Hello fellow flashers,
What a journey it has been.......
About 1,5 years ago I started flashing cooked roms. Miri and Dutty produced some great roms which showed what our precious Blackstone can do. Those and other roms had lots of bugs, but it was fun to play around with them.
Lately, the most popular roms have been developed into great pieces of work and major bugs are in the past. It's mostly minor stuff that's hardly annoying.
I flashed almost all available roms on this forum from chef's such as Energy, Xannytech, Grzegorz, Cloudy, Miniteror's, Mikenifficent, BlackSTONEhenge, Kenia's Blacknew, Millski, Maryone, PhamQuang and Lotus, but I always went back to one of the KWBR's Topix roms. Especially the WM6.1 sense 2.1 rom, which was my longtime favorite.
So why back 2 basics?
I flashed back to the "latest" Dutch stock rom and almost fully tweaked it to optimal settings using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and driverpack signed 2010. The rom is flying like a maniac and I can't believe how fast my blackstone is (even compared with the fastest coocked roms floating around). I also made some cosmetic colour changes to the slider and taskbar (see avatar) and it still uses only 33% of memory....amazing!
The only downfall in my opinion is the WM6.1 part. Some programs can't be instaled through marketplace, but I can live with that. Also because of the age of teh roms a lot of programs are old, but everything works like a charm. Also, TomTom and Google maps work extremely fast and the responsiveness and quickness of the rom is extremely good.
By using all the latest roms teh last couple of months (which usually use between 45-55% of memory and even more after applying tweaks) I forgot how fast this device can be.
I think i'll stick with this rom-version 4 a while and see how the development on this forum goes. On the other hand, I might flash tomorrow again as one of these great chef's comes up with with Dutty called: "the holy grail". We'll see....
Fact is: it's addicting as hell to play around with our device, but you all know what i am talking about, right?
Tnx 2 all you chef's 4 the great roms and keep up the good work!
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Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
SJackal said:
Same issue here! Been trying almost every ROM you mentioned, and I planned to go back to the Dutch Stock tomorrow. Just out of curiosity, what tweaks did you do? Do you have the tools you installed available as an installer or something. Please let know.
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Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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Hi _7_
I returned today to the Oficial Portuguese ROM too.
Can you tell me where can I find the Colored slider+taskbar that you use, or the name?
Thanks
_7_ said:
Hi there,
Almost all the speed improvement tweaks while using HD-tweak, HD settings, SKtools and I installed SD-tuneup, Colored slider + taskbar, Wifisharing and driverpack signed 2010. That's about it.
You can find all those programs as cabs on this forum.
Good luck!
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I flashed back to the original Dutch stock, did the tweaks you mentioned, added a nice theme+taskbar and installed Facebook, Marketplace, G-Alarm, TomTom and Opera 10. The ROM flies, has every tool a use and just uses 33% at startup. Never went over 48% till now!
Thanks for your tip!
As much as I appreciate this thread, it hasn't got anything to do with development so I am moving it to the general forum
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
the main reason to move from stock 6.1 to wm6.5 and sense2.5 is the look, isn't it? I like on home tab the weather animation, links to programs (CHT), the funktionally people and the email tab ...
so my question is:
what eyecandy/tools are you using to make an old stock rom look good?
any pics & links, please.
A while back, I flashed back to the latest WWE stock ROM and thought I'd stick it out for a bit, but the lack of kinetic scrolling really caught me out to the point I could hardly use the phone (I never realised I'd gotten so used to WM6.5!)
Then I tried kwbr's WM6.5 and Manila 2.1 (no sense) and found that while it does use more memory than a WM6.1 ROM does (37% after a softboot), I've not seen it over 50% unless I've a few apps running at the same time. And I've got my kinetic scrolling back
Out of curiosity, how much difference does Neo's driverpack actually make to the stock ROM as I was led to believe it only made a noticeable difference to those using Sense 2.5 which used the graphics-side a lot more?
Well.......after using the modified stock rom for a couple of weeks I could not resist trying some newly coocked roms.
I found a rom that really meets my expectations and needs:
[ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
Try and see 4 yourself!
Greetz!
Barebone
Have you tried [ROM][WWE][WM 6.1][Jun 24]Barebone 2.6 ?
Very fast ROM with all the useless stuff removed. Much faster than stock ROM in my experience.
Well i decided to make this thread has there seems to be numerous ROMs out there and they're suitable for different needs. I just wanted to know what you guys like about certain ROMs and what you think makes them the way you like it.
First ROM i used was ENERGY Mar 18th I think 23XXX for my Xperia X1
I found it to be a great Rom as my first. Except that it was too packed. Full of useless stuff that I didn't need. The ROM was fast but wasn't the most stable. Soft reseted probably once a day. Touch Flo wasn't really my favorite thing, it wasn't smooth and waste a fair amount of battery. Everything else seems to be alright.
Tried a few ROMs: x826, unOFF and Valkyrie
I didn't use this ROMs much, they seemed a bit choppy and wasn't really my taste. Valkyrie I used for a bit, no standby of death or anything and i thought it was better then ENERGY ROM.
Currently using Jack's Rom 5.4
This ROM would be my favourite overall by far. Its stable 21XXX and using Titaniums. It came with everything i needed especially the nice mapping of the XPANEL button to the menu (Of course you can do this to any ROM), but it was the first time i saw it so it was pretty cool haha. The ROM is stable as and i probably just soft reset the phone once a week just for a little new feel but its not really necessary. The phone battery can last me 3 days of usage using an hour a day for music, some web browsing and a lot messaging and a decent number of phone calls a day. The ROM is also very smooth.
Great post xxvelocityxx, but i have to say that 826X w/o sense is my personal fave. I get 2-4 days with constant texting. Also hero.
Im procastinating. Please leave me alone.
I also love
Conjy said:
826X w/o sense
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ALL of you are WRONG!
jus kiddin!
i use V-LITE Cobalt Hardcore.
I did some reading and figured it best suited my needs.
However, i'm a newbie and just got my xperia x1 a couple weeks ago.
I would like to know the pro's n cons of my rom.
Also, if there's anything else i should know, please do say.
Thankz!
I use the ROM in my sig (click it to visit the thread), and I've found it to be more stable than the stock ROM Battery lasts 2, maybe 3 days of constant SMS usage, but then again it's also a year and a half old. The only problem I have with it is the increase of storage memory and decrease of program memory. Though I'm sure Adv Config could edit those to desired values I'm just lazy
Thumb's Up for Wildchild's untamed 1.3 ROM,it proven itself to be absolute rock solid for me!
Let's put it this way, I need a phone that is reliable to me, it should wake me up in the morning!So i really can't use those overnight freezes.
I need to be able to charge the phone whenever its needed without risking any unexpected SOD's.
I need it to have a fingerfriendly OS, so i really needed a WM6.5 rom.
with Htc SenseUI! All Sense2.5 Roms and most sense2.1 Rom's caused my phone to freeze while charging overnight, or leaving WIFI connected.
Flashing Wildchilds rom whas such a relieve(Winmo6.5+Sense2.1+SE Panels+plenty of storage to add whatever you like!)