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Noting that neither AEBPlus or DoubleLauncher seem able to access the OK and Win buttons, are there any other methods to assign an action to double or other states of these buttons? For example, it would be great if I could assign "close/kill" to a double OK click, or launch Resco Explorer with a double Win button click. Right now, only the Browser and Comm Manager buttons seem to be assignable, and press/hold for the Browser seems fixed to VueFlo. With AEBPlus, press/hold for the Comm Manager button shows up separately but can be assigned. I got really used to quick launch on my Wizard. I am finding iLauncher to be an OK sub in some measure, given that lots of icons can show on the VGA screen, but miss a quick double-tap to launch a frequently-used program...
yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...
Why hasn't this ***hole been banned from the forum yet? Its been 27 posts of spam so far.
I've banned him and removed his messages. This my leave a "hole" where they used to be, so FYI to anyone else - ladysovereigna has been permanently banned for spamming.
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bebox said:
yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...
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Back to topic... anyone have an idea??
I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
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vijay555 said:
I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
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No luck with AE Button Plus...
I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.
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I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.
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How were you able to do that? I don't see that button.
The Win-button can be displayed as an option (via Add Buttons menu). However, the new assignments don't seem to work.
The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).
From my experience you can map the 'OK' button but mapping on this hardware key seems to be limited and no mapping to the 'Windows' key.
IRC the developers of AEbutton informed me that MS have reserved those buttons strictly for O/S use and that AE hadn't found a way around it yet...that was over a year ago, but it seems they have made no real progress in this area except for a little with the 'OK' button.
I believe Vijay is right though...it can be done...just takes someone really dedicated to finding the solution.
Bear in mind though that most PPC's have more buttons than the Athena...hence the reason why AE haven't 'possibly' done their best to resolve this, or maybe it causes to many problems..who knows?
I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
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Moskus said:
The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).
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I tried this, and "OK" did not show as an option. But one of the other buttons I added ended up with code 4075, and this now works. There is also an option for "Win" button but that doesn't work at all.
i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind
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I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
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Hi Vijay.
Fellow member Antivirus has some good internal photos of the hardware and I think some other good info on the Ameo try this link. Antivirus.
lol, thanks mackaby007, but I don't need to see inside the device itself, just its rom. Although I would need to test on the device itself.
Anyway, just theoretical for now, need to see a rom.
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boinger66 said:
i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind
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So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.
wgary said:
So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.
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actually if u look in the ae button screen when u try to add a button it does say push the button u would like to bind I also got 4075 and for the win key its 405B
I have mine binded and working
Hi !
I'm writing an app (which i will post here for free ofc) and i'm trying to read the volume up/down keys. I also need to stop them from displaying the volume slider and changing volume while my app is running, i.e. inhibit default behaviour. And since my app will run in the background i want the rest of the keys to function as normal.
If you can help, please post here.
I would really like concise answers, not something like : "try to hook the keyboard driver and see what you get".
Don't ask what my app will do, i won't tell until it's ready (a beta will be available as soon as i can read the keys, i got the rest of it ready).
Thanks,
RPG
Sorry I will give you a "try to hook the keyboard driver and see what you get" like answer ;-) but did you get that keys were hardware specific ?
Sometimes those keys are mapped to Up and Down.
I have no problem in asking the user: press volume up key, press volume down key, so that it works on any machine (or maybe he wants to use different keys). The problem is that GetASyncKeyState for example has no idea those keys are pressed. And even when it works for some other keys (GetAsyncKeyState reads them), those keys still go to the system and stuff happens (like i said, i want to inhibit default behaviour).
Don't post if you don't know what GetASyncKeyState does
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I have no problem in asking the user: press volume up key, press volume down key, so that it works on any machine (or maybe he wants to use different keys). The problem is that GetASyncKeyState for example has no idea those keys are pressed. And even when it works for some other keys (GetAsyncKeyState reads them), those keys still go to the system and stuff happens (like i said, i want to inhibit default behaviour).
Don't post if you don't know what GetASyncKeyState does
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I'm guessing C++, which I have no knowledge in, however, briefly looking at the MSDN article on GetASyncKeyState, I'd guess the list on vijay555s site for VJKeyPress uses the same key codes...
So,
Code:
VK_VOLUME_DOWN 174
VK_VOLUME_UP 173
from here
l3v5y said:
I'm guessing C++, which I have no knowledge in, however, briefly looking at the MSDN article on GetASyncKeyState, I'd guess the list on vijay555s site for VJKeyPress uses the same key codes...
So,
Code:
VK_VOLUME_DOWN 174
VK_VOLUME_UP 173
from here
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Like i said, i already tried that. Doesn't work.
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Like i said, i already tried that. Doesn't work.
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Then, I'm sorry, but I'm clueless
bump !
I'm really close, i just need the way to read the keys
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bump !
I'm really close, i just need the way to read the keys
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Do you need them within your program, or to be redirected to your program (as in, the volume keys open your program)? In the Diamond volume control app, there are some reg keys for opening that program rather than the WM volume control applet...
I need them in my program.
Right now i do have them redirected to run my prog, for tests, but it's not the way i want it.
What i do need is a way to know in my prog when that key is pressed and when it is released. Again, my app will run in the background, so i need the rest of the keys untouched.
Tell us some things that you recently discovered this or the previous month, but never knew that the Xperia was capable of (respond to this thread).
poetryrocksalot's things:
1) The Xperia's shift key can be used in correspondence to the D-pad to select text or files. (I didn't know that the CAP's symbol was actually a shift key)
2) The center button on the Xperia's optical joystick/D-pad can be used to open context menus in file explorer, total commander, resco explorer, spb diary, and just about anything etc. All you have to do is highlight the field of text and press and hold the D-pad. You will see the circular animation indicating that a context menu is about to be open.
3) Your Xperia's mono speakers leave a 1.5 seconds hissing sound after you press a key tone or activate the speakers. This causes your X1 to lose a lot of battery especially if you enable the following: keypad tones, screen tap tones, hardware button tones. Not all Windows Mobile Phones have the hissing sound. The Xperia is one of a few phones with this imperfection (test your other Windows Mobile phones and report here).
comeradealexi's things
4) If you want to select text in opera you have to hold down your finger on the screen and turn text selection ON.
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
The same for contacts.
Anyway you also have shortcuts in emails,
just press&hold "H".
All the shortcuts there are invoked by press&hold.
You can also navigate through inboxes and messages without going out,
just with navipad.
oTToToTenTanz's things
5) If you dial with hardware keyboard you do not have use this "shift" key. It gets the numbers in instantly. I guess it is not much of a new thing though...
Bronx's things:
6) ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
If you want to select text in opera you have to hold down your finger on the screen and turn text selection ON.
The optical button is the same functionality as a left-mouse click. Holding it is a right-mouse click.
WhyBe said:
The optical button is the same functionality as a left-mouse click. Holding it is a right-mouse click.
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Yeah that's what i said in my post too. It surprised me too, and now I love my Xperia so much more because I don't rely on touch screen anymore...it's amazing...
But the way worded that sounds better than the way I said it in my post.
Kudos
Holding space on the hardware keyboard leads to ". "
I don't know if this is stock or FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow, but I like it for typing emails.
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Holding space on the hardware keyboard leads to ". "
I don't know if this is stock or FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow, but I like it for typing emails.
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Wow on my Xperia it doesn't work. I want that feature! Actually I want to be able to use the "hold" function as an auto input for function symbols.
Does anyone know how to tweak for this to work?
poetryrocksalot said:
Wow on my Xperia it doesn't work. I want that feature! Actually I want to be able to use the "hold" function as an auto input for function symbols.
Does anyone know how to tweak for this to work?
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Didnt WhyBe say something about "FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow"
You can customise the àü key ...for example I have £, % and _ set up against the H key
So to get "_" I just type "H" and then hit the àü key twice (first time gives me "-" then second makes it "_")
...to get "%" I hit the àü key once more
I have the Euro symbol and several others set up this way too... never have to use the SYMBOL key any more!
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You can customise the àü key ...for example I have £, % and _ set up against the H key
So to get "_" I just type "H" and then hit the àü key twice (first time gives me "-" then second makes it "_")
...to get "%" I hit the àü key once more
I have the Euro symbol and several others set up this way too... never have to use the SYMBOL key any more!
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How to do?
doministry said:
How to do?
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Sorry -should have said!
Got this from member Maedox...
Connect your phone in ActiveSync mode to your computer and open \Windows\sym.0409.txt
Each line is representing one hardware key. Each time you press àü it jumps to the next character on the line in that text file.
Here's the original thread
Hmm.
If you dial with hardware keyboard you do not have use this "shift" key. It gets the numbers in instantly. I guess it is not much of a new thing though...
Keep them coming there are simple and easy things that people just don't know.
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
comeradealexi said:
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
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erm, i think that has been so since Windows mobile 5.
ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
here's a good one: sliding it open reveals a qwerty hardware keyboard
bronx said:
ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
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Props for that one!
etegration said:
erm, i think that has been so since Windows mobile 5.
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okay. but the thread says "Tell us some things that you recently discovered this or the previous month"
so i am
ring-bearer said:
Props for that one!
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The same for contacts.
Anyway you also have shortcuts in emails,
just press&hold "H".
All the shortcuts there are invoked by press&hold.
You can also navigate through inboxes and messages without going out,
just with navipad.
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here's a good one: sliding it open reveals a qwerty hardware keyboard
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lol!!! laughed my heart out
Guide for Dummies.
Hi,
Can someone how have it working on his/her pro 2 explain in detail how to set up:
1. The landscape mode
2. Full screen
3. Use the fysical keyboard for controll.
Thanks
Ps:
I manged to downlaod Morphgear and added some roms.
Try this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565163
Should get you set up for playing morphgear on your TP2!
Sorry. not working,,,
Got it working fine on my Rhodium (unbranded TP2) :
Install Morphgear.
Once it's done, go into settings, hold the CTRL key then click the assign button and press the key you want to assign. You can release CTRL.
To assign another key, press CTRL again then click assign, and repeat.
Afterward, in Morphgear menu select "Polling method".
You should be able to play just fine using the hardware keyboard
I dont see a CTRL button on the physicall keyboard on tp2..plz help i only got it to work full screen
coolwater22 said:
I dont see a CTRL button on the physicall keyboard on tp2..plz help i only got it to work full screen
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Can't find the Ctrl-key?? Try again...
... bottom left on your keyboard. Says "Ctrl" and nothing else.
mhurg said:
Can't find the Ctrl-key?? Try again...
... bottom left on your keyboard. Says "Ctrl" and nothing else.
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I'm pretty sure "Ctrl" is only the unbranded TP2. On the Tilt 2, Verizon, Sprint phones it is labled "Fn"
godfa7h3r said:
I'm pretty sure "Ctrl" is only the unbranded TP2. On the Tilt 2, Verizon, Sprint phones it is labled "Fn"
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nope, tmobile gots it labeled as ctrl
lilchicano said:
nope, tmobile gots it labeled as ctrl
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Not U.S. T-Mobile. Take a look at all the keyboards here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2009/09/02/carrier-design-philosophy-touch-pro2/
Only the unbranded shows a Ctrl button the others are FN or Alt.
Dangerously said:
Not U.S. T-Mobile. Take a look at all the keyboards here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2009/09/02/carrier-design-philosophy-touch-pro2/
Only the unbranded shows a Ctrl button the others are FN or Alt.
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I've got a US T-Mobile-branded Rhodium/TP2, and I've got an 'alt' key in the bottom left and a 'ctrl' key right next to it. Whatever you've got there, maybe just try one then the other to see if either will work, regardless of how they're labelled?
Hi all, I'm trying to add the following actions as the 3 keyboard shortcut keys:
Button 1: Voice Input (voice-to-text)
Button 2: Home key
Button 3: Back key
So far, I've only had success with Home key by choosing my Launcher app as the shortcut.
Anyone have any advice on how to make these actions work as shortcut keys?
There is a guide in the development section, I forgot the name, but its an older guide so just look carefully for it. Also, try searching for it.
Sent from my HTC Vision
why would you need this? you can just reach up with your right thumb and hit the buttons lol.
As far as voice search (or voice dialer), there's actually an app for that so you should be able to just apply that as the app to launch on key press.
martonikaj said:
why would you need this? you can just reach up with your right thumb and hit the buttons lol.
As far as voice search (or voice dialer), there's actually an app for that so you should be able to just apply that as the app to launch on key press.
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I'm lazy ok, lol.
Voice search is different from voice input I think.
Voice input is the one that's only for text-to-speech. The virtual keyboard has a button for it, but not the hardware keyboard.
EDIT: Cool, I found the guide to add Home and Back buttons.
I just needed to change vision-keypad.kl
Now to find out how to add Voice Input to the button on the left!
Hahutzy said:
I'm lazy ok, lol.
Voice search is different from voice input I think.
Voice input is the one that's only for text-to-speech. The virtual keyboard has a button for it, but not the hardware keyboard.
EDIT: Cool, I found the guide to add Home and Back buttons.
I just needed to change vision-keypad.kl
Now to find out how to add Voice Input to the button on the left!
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Well if you're really lazy, you'd want to keep the home, back and search buttons where they are, and use the 3 quick launch keys for 3 apps that can't be created with the capacitive home back and search keys.
martonikaj said:
Well if you're really lazy, you'd want to keep the home, back and search buttons where they are, and use the 3 quick launch keys for 3 apps that can't be created with the capacitive home back and search keys.
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The concept got me intrigued lol.