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Need some help with t-Mobile UK GPRS/3G Settings

Got myself an HTC Tytn a couple of days ago, found some config stuff on the internet, could connect with a big fat U at the top, but for the whole day now won't connect. Could someone share their T-mobile settings with me? I use a PAYG sim that has a £1 a day internet access, are the settings the same for payg as contract? Thanks in advance..

Re: t-Mobile UK GPRS/3G Settings same as Universals?
seanrkelly said:
Got myself an HTC Tytn a couple of days ago, found some config stuff on the internet, could connect with a big fat U at the top, but for the whole day now won't connect. Could someone share their T-mobile settings with me? I use a PAYG sim that has a £1 a day internet access, are the settings the same for payg as contract? Thanks in advance..
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I've got a T-mobile VarioII but I know that there are some minor but significant differences between the 2 setups. Why not search on the 'Universal' forum for 'T-mobile Pay-s-u-go' settings which would include everything you need as the Universal is 3G also? Just a thought. Good luck.

good advice, thanks

seanrkelly said:
Got myself an HTC Tytn a couple of days ago, found some config stuff on the internet, could connect with a big fat U at the top, but for the whole day now won't connect. Could someone share their T-mobile settings with me? I use a PAYG sim that has a £1 a day internet access, are the settings the same for payg as contract? Thanks in advance..
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I got a pay as you go sim from t-mobile last monday and it worked fine till early wednesday morning when it stopped working mid way through checking posts on here. Has not worked since and customer service have been unable to tell me why. It will not work in my web n walk pro data card either. I'm still trying to find out what's going on.
I will check on the settings but I've only found reference to the same connection settings.

My settings are...
APN: general.t-mobile.uk
User: user
Password: wap
Never needed anything else, no ports or proxys etc, just the above. Used them in my universal, wizard and no my tytn
For official t-mobile settings and setup guide see ...
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/pmsettings
Hope this helps.

T-Mobile Wap, MMS and E-mail settings
or go straight to here:
http://tmobileuk.wdsglobal.com/phon...0&captchaEnabled=true&phoneId=959&submit=Next

Re: T-Mobile Wap, MMS and E-mail settings
Got it sorted!
Username should be: t-mobile
Password should be: tm
Payg sim started working straight away.
Also improves the times when the connection hangs on my data card as well.
Phil

I still can't connect (although it wasn't a problem a couple of days ago) I just get the following:
Connecting...
Locating...
Then it just hangs there. Anyone got any other ideas?

seanrkelly said:
I still can't connect (although it wasn't a problem a couple of days ago) I just get the following:
Connecting...
Locating...
Then it just hangs there. Anyone got any other ideas?
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Mine can do this for upto a minute on each new connection. Once it eventually works mine will be fine for the remaining time of the connection.

Sean make sure you are using
general.t-mobile.uk NOT general.t-mobile.co.uk
The user and password I am using after converting my Orange 3100 is t-mobile and password.
Works fine for me.

Thanks Quilty, changing my password did the trick!

Best Network for PAYG Surfing (noob with m3100 hermes)

Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc

i dunno about cheapest/best data provider, but for sure noone offers free evenings.
3g service is a capability built into your phone, and a "3g" sim card is just a normal sim card. there really is no such thing.
Wifi IS most definitely free if you connect to your own router.

Thanks for the responce , I know Orange do free evenings....
"Get up to 1000 free texts to anyone every month
and free evening mobile Internet browsing"
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/sim/payg_sim
Apparently the most you can spend is 1 pound a day (on most providers) , is this for 3G as well as / or only for GPRS. And are there any hidden charges?
How have you guys found browsing on your PPC's/PDA's etc?
Also which provider should i choose , who provides the best service in your opinion?
cheers
roy

as i understand it, 100p = 1 pound, right?
It shows that each area/region code has different going rate.
It seems like a reasonable deal, and orange i believe has 2g services (EDGE)
I think it says that the REGISTRATION fee is 1 pound, and the most you will end up spending for data is 2 pounds a day. This works like any prepaid card, you add money, you call people, money gets taken off the card.
It seems like a good deal, but orange has a history of sneaky language.
For example, their "Unlimited Data" actually mean "At 3 gb, we start watching you"

roy8846 said:
Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc
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I think the 3 network is the best , 5 pound per month for 2 g data . it is very good at the moment , I use it for some months and the speed is ok so if you want to use the net on the go you should try to give it a go
buy a 3 simcard
install cap file on your spv m3100 which is all setting for internet
click start/setting/connection
click connection/manage existing connection
click Proxy setting/advanced
stick this network uses aproxy server to connect to the internet
click wap under server enter 192.168.71.35 under port 9201
click ok 5 times
topup 10 pound PAYG and then use your spv 3100 go to http://mobile.three.co.uk/pc/Live/pcreator/live/mwsun
go to my 3
from there you to buy internet add-on 5 pound p/m
you should only go to internet after bouth add-on because if you didnt they will charge very expensitive

Wmobile Network cards problem fixed?

Hey, i'm currently using WM2003 on an xda2i.
What is exceptionally frustrating is if I want to use wifi internet, I have to to to
Start-> Settings-> Connections-> connections-> advanced and change BOTH drop downs to WORK NETWORK.l If I want to use GPRS internet I have to do the same but select MY ISP in the first drop down. Switching between communication methods is extremely annoying :S
Also, if I connect to GPRS and leave it on it auto disconnects quite quickly, (10-15 mins) and then the phone needs to be reset inorder to reconnect.
My question might seems illy, but can anyone tell me if things work PROPERLY on pater versions of windows mobile and on the blackstone as I've never used anything except WM2003.
Thank you for your help, I WANT this phone.
.........Ib a n e

The problem you describe is not present on my Touch (Elf) so I'm sure it's been fixed by now. In fact, I didn't have the same problem even on my Exec (Universal) three years ago.

Fantastic! thank you for the input. I'm slowly realising how much I am putting up with in my 2i. I love it, but I need a change, and I don't really want an iPhone.
Might sell my SOUL to afford a sim free Touch HD and this was a stumbling block.
Thanks for clearing it up

I'm also just wondering whether I can justify buying SIM-free and a SIM-only contract from O2, against the cost of a phone on contract.
SIM-free for 18 months:
Phone - £500
SIM card - £20 per month (including unlimited mobile web)
Total - £860
On contract for 18 months:
Phone - £100 (guess based on Touch Pro)
Monthly cost - £35 (including unlimited mobile web)
Total - £730
There's a huge difference in cost and I'm not sure I can justify it just to get one today instead of waiting a couple of months until O2 release the Touch HD on contract (assuming they do). But I really really want this phone. (In fact, mainly I really really want to leave Orange and go back to O2, whose network actually works where I live.)
To add further info to your original question, I've set up seven email accounts in my Touch and they check for new mail periodically (some accounts every two hours, some every 30 mins). If I've turned Wi-Fi on then the connection happens through Wi-Fi but if I'm out of range or Wi-Fi is off then the phone will automatically and silently connect to GPRS and check emails that way. I never need to touch anything. Once it's connected to GPRS it stays connected for hours with no problems.
The only slight inconvenience is that to send an email the two connection methods (GPRS and Wi-Fi) have different SMTP requirements. I can't send emails through Orange's SMTP server while connected to a Wi-Fi network, and I can't send through my ISP's SMTP server (through my home Wi-Fi connection for example) when I'm connected to the internet with GPRS. But this isn't a limitation of Windows Mobile; my laptop is just the same. My solution was to set up my own SMTP server through which I can authenticate to send emails regardless of how my devices connect to the Internet.

mm... yes hadn't thought about the SMTP but I have experienced this before. It is a slight annoyance, but a necessary one I guess without setting up your own server.
I'm glad to heard of your good checking experiences with the email.
mmm.... i'm not a fan of buying contract and using contracts. I prefer to try to buy SIM FREE outright, and if possible Avail of a simplicity contract with vodafone, which only requires one month warning to leave.
The reason I choose Vodafone is because O2 block MSN messenger... and I'm unsure about skype (not that I use it a lot, but I don't like being TOLD by my network what I can and can't use.)
I have no idea about vodafone 3g hsdpa reception though, might have to look into it.
Yeh, I swap from northern ireland, to southern ireland frequently, and as I am currently looking for permanent work, I don't know exactly where I'll end up....thus, contracts are not suitable for me right now.
I did see the Touch HD in a swiss shop for about 469 sterling. think it was www.digitec.com
I've emailed them to see how much shipping would be.

Any good deals on a Touch HD in the UK - prefably Tmobile

Had a good look here and was wondering if anyone has managed a to get a good deal on Touch HD on T Mobile in the UK by upgrading.
My current contract ends in a week, and have a Kaiser at the mo, all that appears to be on the TMob site is the G1 and I dont fancy that!
Would be prepared to use another operator if necessary.
Thanks

After looking around for many weeks, this is easily the best deal I could find anywhere... and you can also add on the 500MB of internet access a month for £5. Unfortunately you have to deal with phones4u...
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=233801&MPItemKey=250428&NetKey=4
It works out at £25 a month, with the phone free (+ you get the 8GB memory card)

I got the phone last week on t-mobile from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk. It's £35 a month on an 18 month contract with 700 mins, unlimited text, unlimited data and the phone for free.

AND! Mobilephonesdirect.co.uk supply the phone already unlocked and unbranded!

AND, it also arrives the next day, unlike some suppliers

Just had a look at http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p3185.aspx
I am currently with T-Mobile on a Flext contract paying £25 per month which includes unlimited web browsing. My contract is up in 2 weeks and I currently have an Omnia but was thinking of going for the HD and maybe sell it on if I didn't think it was any better.
I am a bit confused, T-Mobile don't have the Touch HD on their own website (they only have the Diamond & Touch Pro). How does it work that another website can sell phones using their contracts.
If I bought from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk could I just do an upgrade through them rather than T-Mobile. The Combi 30 offer looks nice (£35 incl web browsing) however it asks you to phone 0845 470 4000 for latest Upgrade price. Is this liable to cost me more or less and if so what is the reason?
If an upgrade price costs more, what options do I have. Ideally I'd like to stay with T-Mobile but I will go to another network if the price is right. Ideally I want to pay as little as possible for the phone but require unlimited data/web browsing.
Please help

T-Mobile don't have the Touch HD on their website because Orange have the network-exclusive supply deal with HTC for the UK.
However, that doesn't mean that the HD is incompatible with T-Mobile, so third-party suppliers such as Phones4U, CPW or the sites linked-to in this thread are able to sell the phones on whatever contract they want, so long as they can agree a price with the network.

Cheers, was looking to buy this on O2 as I thought that was the best deal...currently using Kaiser on T-Mobile and my 18 month contract is up. Just bought a spanking new Touch HD from http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/...447/p3185.aspx thanks!!!

I really wanted the HD on T-Mobile too, so I got a Vario 4 (Touch Pro) and sold it on eBay for £450, used the money to buy a HD and now I'm happily using it on T-Mobile.

but does T-Mobile not restrict you so that you cannot use your phone as a modem , cannot use skype and cannot use IM (msn yahoo gtalk etc)
i just read it here http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/#Combiwebnwalk
"You'll need a compatible phone and internet coverage. Remember that you can only use web'n'walk in the UK and you can't use your phone as a modem or use web'n'walk for peer to peer file sharing, instant messaging (except if you have a Sidekick) or making internet phone calls." Tmobile website

Not really...I've used as a modem now and again, used MSN and now I've got Android on my Kaiser, I've tried Meebo too. Connected to Skype too, not actually tried a call yet. Never had a warning or anything either. Guess if you were abusing the amount of data then maybe they could tell?

I use my HD as a modem with web'n'walk basic, works well no problem. You can try using MSN I'm testing it out now and it seems to be working dispite T-Mobile stopping it when used as a modem or when used on other phones.

Best deal I could find was the mobilephonesdirect one. Only problem I've had with T-mobile is that their web proxy blocks some ports (like the one I'm using for webguide from my HTPC). Easily solved by removing the use of the proxy altogether.
For information: The proxy settings are under "Settings" -> "Connections" tab -> "Connections" -> "T-Mobile Internet", "Manage existing connections" -> "Proxy Settings" tab. Untick the option "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet".
I'd guess that not going via the proxy may increase overall data usage, but my first bill hasn't shown any anomalies.

naturbo2000 said:
Best deal I could find was the mobilephonesdirect one. Only problem I've had with T-mobile is that their web proxy blocks some ports (like the one I'm using for webguide from my HTPC). Easily solved by removing the use of the proxy altogether.
For information: The proxy settings are under "Settings" -> "Connections" tab -> "Connections" -> "T-Mobile Internet", "Manage existing connections" -> "Proxy Settings" tab. Untick the option "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet".
I'd guess that not going via the proxy may increase overall data usage, but my first bill hasn't shown any anomalies.
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I've been doing this for the last 18 months on my TYTN II, as I had some connection issues, but never had any problems once removing the proxy.

I ordered yesterday morning, and it got delivered this morning at 9am! Excellent service especially on Saturday! Just that I was at f'ing work all day and now I can't get it till Monday now!! Arrggh!

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but does T-Mobile not restrict you so that you cannot use your phone as a modem , cannot use skype and cannot use IM (msn yahoo gtalk etc)
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If you read the terms and conditions of any of the web bundles offered by any of the networks, none of them include tethering usage.
True enough, a lot of people get away with it but if they work out that's what you're doing, they will charge you.
T-Mobile and Three also offer tethering bolt-ons which are specifically for using the phone as a modem.
As far as I know, with any of the other networks, your only option is to buy a separate USB modem/dongle.

Check out Expansys. If you dont see the plan you want just give them a call. Paid £334 for my HD sim free in December on TMobile Combi 15 +W&W. Tariff comes in at about £22 per month.
Obviously the lower the tariff the higher the cost of the handset.

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True enough, a lot of people get away with it but if they work out that's what you're doing, they will charge you.
T-Mobile and Three also offer tethering bolt-ons which are specifically for using the phone as a modem.
As far as I know, with any of the other networks, your only option is to buy a separate USB modem/dongle.
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Not quite, the literature says they will not charge but will restrict their service until you upgrade or reduce traffic. But if you take it easy you should be OK. For TMobile an extra £5 permits tethering an increases the allowance to 3GB.

I got mine on an Orange contract, via Lingsmobiles don;t forget free internet with a 10gb allowance (worth a tenner a month)

Unlocked T Mobile HD2's Won't Let You Connect To The Internet

I read about this somewhere, but i can't find the thread.
I know that normal T Mobile firmware requires you to connect to the web through T Mobile Web n Talk.
Well my firmware is now flash to 1.66 WWE and my phone is now unlocked.
I bought a O2 sim and a Vodaphone sim with 3GB and 1 GB prepaid data credit.
Whenever i open a browser app or go to setting> wireless controls > data connections i get this error message:
Cannot Connect
Dialed:
Cannot connect for unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings and change them if needed, tap settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacture's documentation and try again.
Settings
Anyone have any idea what is going on?

Hi
I have done the same to my phone and it works fine on O2.
I assume you did a hard reset after the debranding operation?
Once my phone came back to life after all the software changes, I went to Start/Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connection Setup. Tapped the operator button, selected O2 from the drop down list and the phone connected and got all the necessary settings for GPRS an HSPDA connections. You will need to setup a WiFi connection first (I think). It might have downloaded the settings via SMS.
However, if you want to set your phone up manually, try this site first, filesaveas.com/gprs.html
(as a new user I am not allowed to post links yet, so you will have to add the url to the beginning of the link).
it is full of great advice for UK mobile Phone Operators WAP/GPRS/HSDPA/Email settings.
Cheers

Cubiceye said:
Hi
I have done the same to my phone and it works fine on O2.
I assume you did a hard reset after the debranding operation?
Once my phone came back to life after all the software changes, I went to Start/Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connection Setup. Tapped the operator button, selected O2 from the drop down list and the phone connected and got all the necessary settings for GPRS an HSPDA connections. You will need to setup a WiFi connection first (I think). It might have downloaded the settings via SMS.
However, if you want to set your phone up manually, try this site first, filesaveas.com/gprs.html
(as a new user I am not allowed to post links yet, so you will have to add the url to the beginning of the link).
it is full of great advice for UK mobile Phone Operators WAP/GPRS/HSDPA/Email settings.
Cheers
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I'm not sure if i did the hard reset or not.
I'm going to test it on another Sim, as there is a chance that i don't actualy have usable credit on these Sim's so i'm going to try on a 3 Sim which gets 150mb free with 10 pound top up and is definitely for use in 3G phones.
My sims might be for wireless modem only, not too sure.
If that fails then i'll start look into other options.
How much of a problem would not hard resetting be?
Hopefully i did and that's not the problem.
Good to hear others have had success with T-mobile unlocked.
What is the worse case scenario? Re flashing and hard resetting?
Thanks.

if you were still on your tmo sim when you flashed to 1.66, then you probably still have the tmo settings for mobile data set as default. A hard reset is a good idea, and let the phone pick up the settings from the sim automatically, or at least make sure all trace of tmo is gone.
look here
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connections - manage existing connections to see a list of currently configured mobile networks

I use both a 3 SIM and a t-mobile and the HD2 will pick up their use, configure the settings and store them both at the same time and all automatically.
You shouldn't have the problem that you are experiencing.And its nothing to do with setting a WiFi connection.
Who unlocked the phone for you?

randommann said:
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I'm not sure if i did the hard reset or not.
I'm going to test it on another Sim, as there is a chance that i don't actualy have usable credit on these Sim's so i'm going to try on a 3 Sim which gets 150mb free with 10 pound top up and is definitely for use in 3G phones.
My sims might be for wireless modem only, not too sure.
If that fails then i'll start look into other options.
How much of a problem would not hard resetting be?
Hopefully i did and that's not the problem.
Good to hear others have had success with T-mobile unlocked.
What is the worse case scenario? Re flashing and hard resetting?
Thanks.
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I haven't seen a phone SIM with prepaid data credits. If your phone is set for the right operaror, my guess is that you can't use this data allowance through your phone. You might try the router feature or connect a laptop to use the Web via your phone. If you're in the UK you might try T-Mobile and see if they still offer the PAYG SIM I have. 'Unlimited' data and texts are included in the month after you top up with £10. If you top up in April, data and UK SMSs would be free in May. Top up in May and browse and text for free in June. The £10 top up remains for calls. The offers change but this one suits me.
I use my laptop to connect to the Internet via my HD2 router. T-Mobile say this is against their rules. If they can tell the difference between phone and laptop use, perhaps you can use your data this way and so my earlier comment. They haven't said anything to me yet so I doubt it. I think you'd need to install the router; it's been removed by most operators.

DrATty said:
I haven't seen a phone SIM with prepaid data credits. If your phone is set for the right operaror, my guess is that you can't use this data allowance through your phone. You might try the router feature or connect a laptop to use the Web via your phone. If you're in the UK you might try T-Mobile and see if they still offer the PAYG SIM I have. 'Unlimited' data and texts are included in the month after you top up with £10. If you top up in April, data and UK SMSs would be free in May. Top up in May and browse and text for free in June. The £10 top up remains for calls. The offers change but this one suits me.
I use my laptop to connect to the Internet via my HD2 router. T-Mobile say this is against their rules. If they can tell the difference between phone and laptop use, perhaps you can use your data this way and so my earlier comment. They haven't said anything to me yet so I doubt it. I think you'd need to install the router; it's been removed by most operators.
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Like I said I have the same SIM as the OP and of course it works in the phone. Its just a SIM with credit on it and I also use it in a mobile broadband USB modem through a 3 WiFi router without any problem.
Some of the prepaid 3 payg boxed deals are preloaded with bundles of data access thats what the OP must have, but there shouldn't be any problem with them connecting in a phone.

pa49 said:
Like I said I have the same SIM as the OP and of course it works in the phone. Its just a SIM with credit on it and I also use it in a mobile broadband USB modem through a 3 WiFi router without any problem.
Some of the prepaid 3 payg boxed deals are preloaded with bundles of data access thats what the OP must have, but there shouldn't be any problem with them connecting in a phone.
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Well the O2 and T-Mobile sims that i suspected were modem only i used did not work, but the 3 payg sim i am now using is working perfectly.
3 offer 150mb free with every 10 pound credit topup.
The sims i got were not payg for phone use but modem use i believe.
In anycase it works now.
Where might i find any payg sims with preloaded data for mobile phone use?
Thanks.

randommann said:
Well the O2 and T-Mobile sims that i suspected were modem only i used did not work, but the 3 payg sim i am now using is working perfectly.
3 offer 150mb free with every 10 pound credit topup.
The sims i got were not payg for phone use but modem use i believe.
In anycase it works now.
Where might i find any payg sims with preloaded data for mobile phone use?
Thanks.
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I have a T-mobile PAYG SIM in my HD2. When I top up with £10, I get 'unlimited' data and UK text messages in the following month. The definition of unlimited varies but I've used over 1Gb without T-mobile becoming upset. It's not pre-loaded data but amounts to the same thing. You might need to check that the offer is still valid.