Hey guys maybe it's interesting.
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/actu.asp?ID=4812
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greetings
fake! look at all the apple icons, and the signal strength and clock switch places.
i thought that these are fake but what convinced me that they are not are the images on the following page
http://www.exedamobile.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=7
Where are the apple icons? I personally can't see any.
Apparently, the apple icons are the home and the camera.
It seems that the images aren't fake, the webmaster was used to work with Microsoft France and keep serious contact
Let's see the future...
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While the arrival of Windows Mobile 6.5 for the year 2009 was announced here and there, then confirmed by Steve Balmer himself at the PDC 2008, Smartphone France is very pleased to present exclusive World 2 first screenshots of what should be Windows Mobile 6.5.
If for the moment there is no real information on the new version of Windows Mobile, what is happening is that Microsoft has finally decided to redesign the interface of the aging systems to try to catch up with his lags behind its competitors.
At visual we can see that Windows Mobile 6.5 is very close to what should be Windows Mobile 7. Does it mean that Microsoft has decided to completely revise their copy as regards WM7 and we propose intermediate version which should be initially WM7? In all what whatever happens in a case closely monitor ... although it will take many months before seeing a new version of Windows Mobile on the market."
my opinion hmmm they look pretty fake but hey we might be wrong who knows
the "T" in youtube is lower case, so that could be another piece showing that its fake.
Very fake (although cool looking)
why is the windows sign in the start menu different in both pictures...i think their fake
Horrible..
Those screenshots look like a mixture of Tango and MacOSX icons.
And I fail to believe that the next complete makeover of Windows Mobile will be proudly presented by QVGA screenshots with low compression. Microsofts interfaces usually dont look well composed, but these look like trying so hard, sorry, I give it a no go as well.
YouTube is owned by Google, somewhat like the biggest rival of Microsoft nowadays. An application integrated in what I suspect to represent the main launcher screen? Sorry, no.
And if that screen can be customized, I'd be highly surprised that there's a YouTube application for an unreleased system, misspelled, available as an install and put on that screen by a developer (who else would have access to a build?). Is YouTube the MS Devs most timeconsuming side-hobby...?
Edit: oh yes, the Windows-flags...
This is pretty hilarious. There is one other thread about these screens where all people approve the new looks. You guys all are haters
I do like the looks much btw.
Cheers.
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why is the windows sign in the start menu different in both pictures...i think their fake
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yep exactly what i thought too, definitely fake. besides it doesnt look like much of an improvement from what we can already do.
zeheres said:
This is pretty hilarious. There is one other thread about these screens where all people approve the new looks. You guys all are haters
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This is not really a discussion about the looks but about the fakeness of these shots.
Windows Mobile 6.5
i,m using WM 6.5 on my touch diamond P3700 and no problem yet everything works well at this time....... and i luv it!!! and those shots are for real!!....
bro check the date of last reply before you post something
@kosmodisk...... i thought from the thread is open that mean its open for discussion!!......tell moderator to close this discussion then!.....hej då
I have noticed here in Australia that the Iphone can come with Lonely Planet translation software. Has anyone been able to come up with a Pocket PC compatible one that could go on our Diamond/Pro. I am writing it in here as the Iphone does share a couple of things with the Diamond/Pro although our Diamond/Pro to me and many of us are far superior to the Iphone. I believe language translation software would be a valuable contribution to our Pocket PC's. I have not come across any good translation programs and have found livingsoft or whatever its called and etaco to be not really very good. (Have never been able to get english-Thai translations on either my old TyTn II or my Touch Pro.) Lonely Planet has by memory up to 6000 phrases in it in many different toungues. With international roaming now more prominant and with more and more people travelling I think it would be a very valuable addition to those of us who only know the very basics of some languages and with JBlend on our phones it should not be too difficuld as a widget.
do you mean like these fromCool Gorilla?
firstbuddha said:
do you mean like these fromCool Gorilla?
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i think me means lonley planet the game,
and when he talkes about languages he means programming languages
lol
annonymouse said:
i think me means lonley planet the game,
and when he talkes about languages he means programming languages
lol
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No Lonely Planet is a well known travel Guide which originates from Australia but has spread worlwide. They started up with Language translation Books and tapes (Audio Tapes) and now they have spread to mobile phone software which they have so far launched on Iphone (I know its on Aussie spec Iphones unsure if on other country spec yet) They have covered every English to Other language eg. english to French, English to Thai. It lso gives guides to overseas accomodation, restaurants etc. But the language idea would be tops as Overseas travel becomes more possible and with so many Phones/PDA's having ever increasing memory capacity it would be a very handy tool to have on ones Diamond or Pro.
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do you mean like these fromCool Gorilla?
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Looking at your link firstbuddha, it is very simiar idea but there are many, many more languages translated on Lonely Planet.
If you are the kind of person who gets emotionally attached to the gadgets you buy, please stop reading this post.
I'm not trying to start an inflamed discussion about which is the best device or manufacturer.
I’m not an Apple fan, in fact, I hate being “Apple locked” and that’s one of the main reasons I’ve bought the Leo after owning an Eten x500, a Kaiser, a Blackstone and finally, an iPhone 3GS.
I could go over and over describing the differences and the pros and cons of each device but I won’t. I’ll just try to tell you guys a few things we don’t have to accept.
We don’t have to accept …
the endless steps (gold card, hardSPL, regEdit, dictionary hacks, you name it) needed to get the phone speaking your language. You just have to say: I want “THAT” system language and “THAT” input language and that’s it. That’s how it’s done on the iPhone. And I’m not talking 3 or 4 languages. I’m saying over 30 different languages and oh, you also have voice control on YOUR language. You don’t need to hack Voice Command…
an SMS conversation that gets all messages out of order (doesn’t HTC know how to do time calculations?)
a Gigahert processor which can’t smoothly scroll a web page. I know it’s probably due to bad Opera coding but… have you ever scrolled an iPhone Safari?
a whole bunch of bad designed apps which you can’t effectively control / interface with because Windows Mobile programmers really don’t seem to realize that “user friendlier” is better. Have you ever used a same App on both platforms? Take Trapster for example (It’s available at Micrsoft app store). The windows mobile version of it makes me feel sorry for the programmer while the iPhone version feels very nice. Of course this is not the only example…
a lot of small bugs on the first ROM. Apple got it right on the first and they had never (ever) built a phone before! How many phones will HTC have to make before they get a stock ROM right? The small things are often the most annoying...
I could go on but there is something I realized that made me feel really hopeless (yes, I would really like to like a Windows phone). While HTC (and other manufacturers) keeps on launching device after device in a short time frame and thus creating new bugs and issues to deal with, Apple keeps on improving its one and only iPhone OS, for its one iPhone device (ok, different versions but very similar) which keeps getting better and better.
While iPhone developers have to deal with interface and compatibility issues for 3 very similar devices, a Windows Mobile developer has to deal with hundreds of them, some very poorly designed and a few very good (like Leo) but in the end, there is no way to develop a very good app for so many devices without a huge effort (and cost). Also, developing an App exclusively for one Windows phone wouldn’t be cost effective as a single model doesn’t represent a large enough consumer market.
Apple, with the iPhone, didn’t create a device as we are used to. Instead, they created a product with a long roadmap, mature SDK, sufficient market share, providing the necessary ecosystem for developers all around the world to make it even better.
It won’t be possible for any manufacturer, using any OS, to compete with such a mature product if they don’t realize it’s not a device we need. It’s a product.
Sadly, I’m going back to my 3GS… (god I hate iTunes…)
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a lot of small bugs on the first ROM. Apple got it right on the first and they had never (ever) built a phone before! How many phones will HTC have to make before they get a stock ROM right? The small things are often the most annoying...
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Couldn't agree more on that.. Actually some people believed that HTC guys were deaf to provide us with such a loud distorted audio quality. I can't forgive HTC for the SMS bug.. I can't load all my SMS, device becomes really really slow and laggy.. How come they did not run a proper test to ensure their HTC Messaging application was working fine with dozens of SMS? This is really unprofessional. What where they busy with? The weather animation?
HTC support will contact me today to collect some symptoms and bugs I found but they did NOT ( as they claimed ).
Hopefully a hotfix will be available ASAP.
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Couldn't agree more on that.. Actually some people believed that HTC guys were deaf to provide us with such a loud distorted audio quality. I can't forgive HTC for the SMS bug.. I can't load all my SMS, device becomes really really slow and laggy.. How come they did not run a proper test to ensure their HTC Messaging application was working fine with dozens of SMS? This is really unprofessional. What where they busy with? The weather animation?
HTC support will contact me today to collect some symptoms and bugs I found but they did NOT ( as they claimed ).
Hopefully a hotfix will be available ASAP.
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Well, one thing we can safely assume by now is that no one at HTC actually uses their devices. Unless they are all deaf, send and receive SMSs only to/from their one and only imaginary friend and probably spend too much of their time watching the weather channel...
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Well, one thing we can safely assume by now is that no one at HTC actually uses their devices. Unless they are all deaf, send and receive SMSs only to/from their one and only imaginary friend and probably spend too much of their time watching the weather channel...
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Some bugs are bearable.. I had too many with all my previous XDA/HTC phones. But for such basic bugs to be found, the device primary tasks ( phone calls / SMS ) should never be affected because it makes the device useless...
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the endless steps (gold card, hardSPL, regEdit, dictionary hacks, you name it) needed to get the phone speaking your language. You just have to say: I want “THAT” system language and “THAT” input language and that’s it. That’s how it’s done on the iPhone. And I’m not talking 3 or 4 languages. I’m saying over 30 different languages and oh, you also have voice control on YOUR language. You don’t need to hack Voice Command…
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Uh... you do realise that the reason these hacks exist is because the HD2 probably hasn't been officially launched in the country / language of your choice, and that people are hacking so they can use the HD2 in their country sooner than as decided by the carrier?
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an SMS conversation that gets all messages out of order (doesn’t HTC know how to do time calculations?)
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That's Microsoft's fault - having said that, I haven't had the problem with the HD2 itself - only the custom ROMS cooked with Leo packages on a Touch HD.
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a whole bunch of bad designed apps which you can’t effectively control / interface with because Windows Mobile programmers really don’t seem to realize that “user friendlier” is better. Have you ever used a same App on both platforms? Take Trapster for example (It’s available at Micrsoft app store). The windows mobile version of it makes me feel sorry for the programmer while the iPhone version feels very nice. Of course this is not the only example…
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And this is more due to laziness on the developer's part and nothing to do with Windows MObile or the HD2 in general. Take a look at S2U2 - have you seen how nice the settings page is? Or GAlarm, *the* best alarm program ever.
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a lot of small bugs on the first ROM. Apple got it right on the first and they had never (ever) built a phone before! How many phones will HTC have to make before they get a stock ROM right? The small things are often the most annoying...
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Agreed. Wish HTC would get their act together.
If you hate iTunes so much why not wait a few more months for the Xperia X10, running Android with Snapdragon? Or the Motorola DROID for that matter?
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Uh... you do realise that the reason these hacks exist is because the HD2 probably hasn't been officially launched in the country / language of your choice, and that people are hacking so they can use the HD2 in their country sooner than as decided by the carrier?
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Humm... not exactly. Most people here at XDA were trying to switch from an oficial ROM to another. That said, we're talking about official languages. I was trying to flash a WWE ROM on a french device for example. The HTC excuse for this terrible language mess is, of course, microsoft: "Unfortunately, due to licensing restrictions put in place by Microsoft, it is not legally possible for us the change the language of a device once it has been loaded" - Quoted from an HTC support email I received.
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That's Microsoft's fault - having said that, I haven't had the problem with the HD2 itself - only the custom ROMS cooked with Leo packages on a Touch HD.
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Do you realise it shouldn't matter whose fault it is? It's a faulty device sold by HTC, period. I don't feel any better knowing it's an OS fault.
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And this is more due to laziness on the developer's part and nothing to do with Windows MObile or the HD2 in general. Take a look at S2U2 - have you seen how nice the settings page is? Or GAlarm, *the* best alarm program ever.
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I know but I think it's a bit more complicated as I said on the original post. Besides the laziness, WM developers face a too heterogeneous ecossystem that makes things really harder. "Ok, I've finished my app, now I just have to port it to 640x480, 480x640, 480x800, 800x480, 320x200, and who knows what else, despite the fact that standard WM UIs are really crap so every developer has to start from scratch if they want to make something look good. In short, only a few very brave souls will be capable of that.
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Agreed. Wish HTC would get their act together.
If you hate iTunes so much why not wait a few more months for the Xperia X10, running Android with Snapdragon? Or the Motorola DROID for that matter?
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Because Android is not that good also. It seems like a better OS than WM but when it comes to user experience and, most important, a consistent user experience across all apps, it fails for the same reason WM fails. Lack of a product design and roadmap. It's just trying desperately to be installed on as most devices as it can.
Regards
And yet, the reasons people still use Winmo/Android is because the Iphone OS has serious deficiencies in some areas.
There is no perfect phone....all we can do is make the best of each OS.
Honestly you'd be better off with an iphone. I love my HD2 despite some minor problems, because I enjoy messing around with my phone. Also browsing the net on the HD2 is much faster than on the 3GS and you don't have to zoom in in order to read anything on the screen.
Let's not forget that the device is going to be upgradeable to winmo 7 as well.
Solution - keep HD2 and get ipod Touch - best of both worlds. Connect ipod via Wifi to HD2.
I owned iphone 3gs...
I read all you've been writing and i, as former iphone 3gs user, must say that everything you say is corect but... why don't you say to all of us why you gave up your iphone... or why you really hating go back to itunes... and of course why in the close future you'll give up again, and sell the iphone???
The answer, real answer is that with iPhone you have everything right in place as you say but there is no fun... no joy... like trying to have the best sex but not in the mood... if know what i mean...
I had moments when i pulled out my iphone, from my pocket, and i wanted to play arround with it and...come on, really boring!!!
Iphone is the best in terms of everyday use, but if wm 7 will get better in terms of use it's going to be a strong iphone killer!!!
I really like my HD2, in spite of all the hiccups, because it's fun, you can lose yourself for hours doing nothing but looking inside of it... settings, registry, HKLM, HKCU... does ring a bell, than entering here at xda and finding that someone did something and you hold your breath till you see if that is working or not...
I only say that i like playing... and HTC HD2 is giving me that!!! i don't need silly games to have fun from my device...
By the way...
No OS can have better handle of e-mail attachments than wm... for sure!!!
I HAVE NO REGRETS FOR SELLING IPHONE OVER HTC HD2!!!
Cheers!
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I really like my HD2, in spite of all the hiccups, because it's fun, you can lose yourself for hours doing nothing but looking inside of it... settings, registry, HKLM, HKCU... does ring a bell, than entering here at xda and finding that someone did something and you hold your breath till you see if that is working or not...
I only say that i like playing... and HTC HD2 is giving me that!!! i don't need silly games to have fun from my device...
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Thanks for perfectly expressing my thoughts
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Honestly you'd be better off with an iphone. I love my HD2 despite some minor problems, because I enjoy messing around with my phone. Also browsing the net on the HD2 is much faster than on the 3GS and you don't have to zoom in in order to read anything on the screen.
Let's not forget that the device is going to be upgradeable to winmo 7 as well.
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I must say i have had an iphone 3g and i'm more happy with my HTC HD2. One of the reasons is because i simply think you pay way to much for the piece of hardware itself still no 5mpx camera while 8 is almost normal and 12 is high end. The new gs is worth more the money tough but the camera keeps me off and i kept hearing a annoying resonance while calling and the software isn't perfect as well and not that stable after a few days plus the battery life of the HTC HD2 is better as my iphone 3g and way better as the 3gs.
I like the default windows mobile software HTC Sense is annoying, camera flip, weather animations can't be turned off. Emails why show the email in the way it is shown now? i just rather had opened the whole email app so i can view the emails like your supposed to and not like a letter.
While calling you have to slide to get the extra options, why? there is a hang up button on screen wich you can press so why not the other buttons?
HTC tried to make a nice looking skin but not a functional one.
I use the default titanium skin with some modifications like a task manager added to the options and msn and the camera. But the apps for calling and the communications manager work great.
About windows mobile 7:
Windows mobile can be great. But i still have the idea they haven't learned from their mistakes. Look at the buttons a phone is supposed to have according to microsoft for windows mobile 7. a Pickup, a home, a start, a back and a hang up button. Why so many? Home and start could be one, 1 press to go home another to go to start and press again to go home again, simple and effective. Why a back button? when would you use that? Press the home button and your back in the home screen and applications usually have their own back button when needed. So pick-up home and hang-up would have been enough. Since Microsoft asks for these buttons they still think to complicated and i bet windows 7 will to complicated as well all though it will be more complete compared to 6.x.
But i love how i can change things to the user interface and multitasking is great, the iphone can't do that by default and that really sucks. And backgrounder that does make it possible, makes the phone more unstable as a windows mobile one. It is stupid windows mobile doesn't use it's greatest advantage for marketing and battling the iphone with it, this is where windows mobile could stand out with.
I'm writing this from my macbook on os x snow leopard and even i still prefer my windows mobile HTC HD2.
Windows Mobile 7 will simply use CE7 Kernel, compiled for new ARM CPUs and will use the new ARM instructions.
Now we're running Windows Mobile 6.5 that runs on CE5.2 kernel.
It's like running Windows98 on a Phenom X4 quadcore CPU
Even on other MSM chipsets that has got an ARM11 CPU, that potential isn't seen because of that.
When WM7 will be released, we'll see our device performance unleashed
I've had my HD2 for a week now and I must say I'm more than pleased with it. I did consider the iPhone as an option, but as I want to connect my phone to my Exchange Server then it was a no brainer to opt for a Windows Phone and the hardware specs of the HD2 are way above the iPhone. A big thing that put me off the iPhone was it's reliance upon iTunes to synchronise my calendar & contacts - it's dreadfully buggy toy software and I don't want a music application on my work PC.
If anyone has any doubts as to the iPhone's reliability and stability just Google "iPhone faults" and you'll see the problems users have experienced with their iPhones are considerable, with many being bricked through their hardware faults. Interestingly the most common reported faults are similar to those reported by the HTC dissenters such as slow SMS sending - maybe these are network issues? On top of that there's now the 'Astley' virus which Apple helpfully explain away as "the users' fault".
The emergence of open source Android phones whill hopefully spur the mainstream smartphone OS writers to concentrate their efforts on developing their own platforms. It's true to say that Microsoft haven't trerated their Windows OS as a mainstream product and there's still too much legacy code in 6.5, but it's still a decent OS for its intended purpose Hopefully that will be addressed in Version 7 which looks likely to be available to HD2 users as an (free?) upgrade. There's masses of quality third-party apps avaiable to maximise its smartphone potential for just about all users,.
There isn't a perfect smartphone out there and as we demand ever more features of them I doubt if there is likely to be in the forseable future, but the nice thing about the Windows Phone OS is that it is eminently hackable.
HD2 Simply Put...
Depth & Customization!
iphone got it right???
I remember hearing complaints about iphone for at least the first year, and as omneity says:
"If anyone has any doubts as to the iPhone's reliability and stability just Google "iPhone faults" and you'll see the problems users have experienced with their iPhones are considerable, with many being bricked through their hardware faults. Interestingly the most common reported faults are similar to those reported by the HTC dissenters such as slow SMS sending - maybe these are network issues? On top of that there's now the 'Astley' virus which Apple helpfully explain away as 'the users' fault' ".
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5. a lot of small bugs on the first ROM. Apple got it right on the first and they had never (ever) built a phone before! How many phones will HTC have to make before they get a stock ROM right? The small things are often the most annoying...
Sadly, I’m going back to my 3GS… (god I hate iTunes…)
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p.s. I am a former Apple user. Iphone is more of Jobs' controlled user experience.
I couldn't stand it.
I find it ironic that Apple started out supporting open source while Gates worked hard at controlling users choice.
Now it is the reverse.
New things r always trapped in some trouble, and that's why i have paid close attention to leo, but i didn't buy it! im just waiting for a staid one.
To put it simply - the HD2 is the best phone I have ever used. I think it is awesome. I've had an iphone, etc - but the truth is there is no phone that hasn't got problems. The Iphone is falwed because it has no multi-tasking, crap camera, poor messaging (in my opinion), limited configurability, and its tied to iTunes which is horrible. The HD2 has non of the above. Yes it has flaws itself, but in my eyes less than any other phone out there at the moment.
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To put it simply - the HD2 is the best phone I have ever used. I think it is awesome. I've had an iphone, etc - but the truth is there is no phone that hasn't got problems. The Iphone is falwed because it has no multi-tasking, crap camera, poor messaging (in my opinion), limited configurability, and its tied to iTunes which is horrible. The HD2 has non of the above. Yes it has flaws itself, but in my eyes less than any other phone out there at the moment.
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I FULLY agree with you ; I also have a iphone 3G 16 GB but is now in the drawer collecting dust. As saying goes, One man's meat is another man poison . No point debating about how good/bad the HD2 and iPhone and any other PDA. It will never end
As far as I am concerned , the HD2 is my choice now vs iPhone
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Solution - keep HD2 and get ipod Touch - best of both worlds. Connect ipod via Wifi to HD2.
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Yep, I totally agree...and that's just what i've now done
Coming from a Droid and really loved Swype. ANyone know when/if we're getting this?
There is no support for replacing the input method on Windows Phone 7.
It would be safe to assume that it is not coming.
Never say never, but definitely not at least for a few months. There is a rumor floating around that the February update is supposed to unlock more for developers, which may introduce the possibility for a Swype installation, so there is that. Of course, since we haven't even heard whispers of rumors from the Swype guys, I wouldn't start holding my breath. There is a very real probability that, even if the possibility for Swype opens up, that the software itself may not happen on WP7 until you're ready to upgrade from one of the launch handsets anyway.
Why would you want Swype? That is ancient technology which reminds me of the first Palm device. We need and want speech to text ! Typing on a phone or any small form factor should not be in the future. Bring on better technology !
Really? Talking? So many situations where that just doesn't work.
Swype is nice especially on 4+ inch screens.
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PaullikesWINMO said:
Why would you want Swype? That is ancient technology which reminds me of the first Palm device. We need and want speech to text ! Typing on a phone or any small form factor should not be in the future. Bring on better technology !
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I'm just imagining 100 people at an airport trying to send an SMS through Voice Recognition - guess that's not going to work to well.
Your secure Password is: "AUTOBAHN" - also a nice one.
Swype is actually really nice and I would love to see at least something similar on WP7 devices. Microsoft used Swype technology in a Win CE Demo so perhaps this might at one point or another be licensed for the whole operating system. Wouldn't bet on it though.
Yes I can see there is a need for typing text (meetings or being discrete not disturbing anyone) but if voice technology is improved the message could be wispered into the phone. Texting while driving is now illegal in many juristictions, so it would be great to say it and have the phone type it out. Hence my ask for voice recognition for talk to text.
As for Swype I've never used it. Might be a good tool and useful for non-driving situations.
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Really? Talking? So many situations where that just doesn't work.
Swype is nice especially on 4+ inch screens.
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Hi, I see you use an XDA app, is there any for Windows Phone 7, I have a Focus. Thanks!
PaullikesWINMO said:
Why would you want Swype? That is ancient technology which reminds me of the first Palm device. We need and want speech to text ! Typing on a phone or any small form factor should not be in the future. Bring on better technology !
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LMAO! Why?
Do you use "Dragon Naturally Speaking" instead of a keyboard when you use your computer?
Do you know how much slower it would be to edit the wrong words selected like "Their" instead of "there"?
Also why bother speech texting, when last time I checked a phone can make calls?
Speeh text is OK and I do it from time to time, but to have that as my primary way of texting? Ummmm NO!...
Okay so basically I want to do on my Nexus 7 what I do on my Windows PC. Have Jelly Bean display in English but the on-screen keyboard to have a standard German Qwertz Layout.
On a Windows PC this is easy language & keyboard settings are separate. But having a scout around the Android forums on here & the Nexus 7 forums. This is apparently problematic.
Lily
PS. I have never used an android device before & I did use search so please forgive my ignorance.
Check out the Android app store. A search for "Keyboard German" got 348 hits.
For example, Slideit offers 45 free language and layout packs. That just happens to be the first one I pulled up.
Thanks for responding. But I simply want to do this in Jelly Bean without an external app. I'm not going looking for apps unless I know that Jelly Bean isn't capable of displaying in one language & using a different keyboard. Are you saying that android can't cope with such a basic requirement natively? And that I have no choice but to use an independent app & shell out money for a basic OS requirement.
Why would you pay for an App when there are so many free ones?
Go Keyboard, for example, is free with over 90,000 downloads.
If you don't want to use Apps with a Nexus - I am not sure why you want a Nexus.
Apps make Android what it is.
Maybe someone with a pre-production Nexus 7 can tell you what the keyboard supports out of the box. I will say the language on the keyboard has nothing to do with the language the device displays in.
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Why would you pay for an App when there are so many free ones?
Go Keyboard, for example, is free with over 90,000 downloads.
If you don't want to use Apps with a Nexus - I am not sure why you want a Nexus.
Apps make Android what it is.
Maybe someone with a pre-production Nexus 7 can tell you what the keyboard supports out of the box. I will say the language on the keyboard has nothing to do with the language the device displays in.
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The one you recommended costs nearly 3 quid.
I never said I won't use apps. My question was not about apps. My question was does Jelly Bean support this. I just assumed that a feature this basic must be stock. So I thought I would post the question & hope someone that actually knows the answer would happen along. Or for that matter someone familiar enough with other Android incarnations who could make a best guess. Basic logic dictates that I see what it can do natively before filling it up with unnecessary apps.
Not a recommendation of mine - I said that was just the first one that search pulled up.
Older versions of Android support 13 languages on the multi-touch keyboard, including German.
My post was intended to point out, if by chance, Nexus 7 does not have what you need, there is an app for it...
So does somebody else know or have any actual insight as to whether android can handle this natively? I'd be really grateful for some info from peeps who actually know their way around android. Because I definitely don't.
Just tried it on my Galaxy Nexus (ICS) and what you require is there out the box. You can pick from a variety of keyboard languages without changing the system language.
rowanparker said:
Just tried it on my Galaxy Nexus (ICS) and what you require is there out the box. You can pick from a variety of keyboard languages without changing the system language.
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You Sir are bloody lovely. Fingers crossed they allow this in Jelly Bean. Thanking you muchly. :fingers-crossed: