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ROM Situation?

Hi,
I was active in the BA forum about a year ago, and have some free time now so would like to get my BA working again
When I was here last helmi had just released his first 6.0 rom. Could anyone advise me about how the ROMs have improved since then, i.e. improvements between 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5, and recommend which version to install?
I'm mainly looking for stability and a clean and well organised interface. I tried a ROM just now out of curiosity and found it was completely messed up with coverflow picture viewers, oversized task managers etc. which did not look good.
Thanks for any help, or just general ROM discussion
hardingt0110

maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM

wm6.1 build 21032 or 21038 are waiting for ya

Cheers for the help
So which ROM would you guys reccomend for my requirements of fewest bugs / cleanest interface? I guess imatrix you were talking about xtreme's ROMS there, or sun_dreams?
@xplode: once wm6.5 is stable, will it have any improvements over 6.1? Would I be better with a 6.0 over 6.1 for that matter? That would be great if you could make a new version of 6.1
Thanks

xplode said:
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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I for once don't agree with you! LOL Well I use R3 Your Creation... on a daily basis and beat the cheet out of it, and have had very few crashes... So... C'mon mate, trust your work Its going great. Getting ready to flash R5.1 . I just need to sync phone first. I had to re-format my pc and haven't installed Outlook yet, so, till I can find my Office CD and can Sync my contact I won't be flashing. Oh... I hate moving... Still have 1/2 my stuff in boxes and can't remember what is where.
@ hardingt0110: I can suggest Swampy's WM6.1 : BA_M2D_CE_OS_5220275__Build_20275.1.3.3_V3 I used it for quite a while, still have it on one of my other BA's and to me, it was pretty featured and stable. Use it with his ExtROM.
If you read a little on the top 10 threads, you will find most answers to your questions about 6.0 vrs .1 and .5
Happy Flashing!
@ Explode: Like I said, I haven't flashed 6.5 R5.1 yet, but just from what you've wrote, I can already say... Thank You! You've really put your time into this last ROM. My Respects to you and all the other great cookers.
@ Swampy: You've been a little quiet my friend. Waiting to see what's New @ Swamps Cooking
@ markanthonypr: Edit your signature lazy boy, you don't have a "working Tornado" anymore LOL
@ Rafyvitto: Thanks for suggesting BA its all your fault LOL

I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1

April 1 said:
I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1
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I'm totally agreed with that!
I tried Swampy's M2D CE_OS_5.2.20931, its fast but the folders are not really organized. I'm currently using xplode's Build 19209; slower but stable and looks pretty official.
Cheers to ROM developers!

xplode said:
maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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@xplode,
You know mark is right, right? You should have more trust in your work buddy!! Your roms are normally great with a few bugs here and there.
@ hardingt0110
If I were you, I would jump directly to WM6.5. markanthonypr is right on the money... I use 6.5 for daily use and I beat it like a rented mule without any issues. I have had to do a series or SR in the past week, but it is not because of the rom itself but rather because of the latest release of PointUI2, which for some reason is buggy as hell. I uninstalled it and everything is back to normal. Try it, you may like it...
@ mark
Moving is always a pain in the a$$. Don't feel bad though, I moved about 2 years ago and I still have half of my stuff packed in boxes.

Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?

hardingt0110 said:
Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?
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The apps enhancements are really up to personal taste... Here's what I normally have
Main UI: Varies but currently using PointUI 2 Free v 2.018b (later releases are too buggy)
Music Player: S2P
Lock Program: either S2U2 or ThrottleLock
Browser: NetFront Browser Concept 3.5 and Iris Browser (both are light, pretty fast, and Iris can use true Flv video (youtube and such))
Contact Manager: Pocket CM
Keyboard: PCM keyboard
Mail Management: I use the stock Pocket Outlook. However, Flexmail isn't bad either (not free though)
Video Player: Either CorePlayer or TCPMP
Picture Viewer: S2P
Games: A bunch!!
GPS Program: IGo 6 (will change it to Google Navigate eventually, but this one works rather well).
Calendar: Thumbcal (not free)

Thanks i will look into those
By the way I figured out that the honeycomb scrolls
I still don't know what those fixed themes are :S can I still use my own background in wm6.5?

yes of course you can use customized backgrounds. if you pick a qvga jpg picture, open it with "pictures and videos" you can set it as today background and select transparency, that also makes it the start menu background and those abstract pictures, general dark background with colorful lightplay looks wonderful. i already tried a lot of custom backgrounds and can't even decide with which to go permanently. i wouldn't recommend .tsk today themes though, they didn't just change the title bar and menu bar, which i expected, they took away all the finger friendlyness and put back the ugly old menus and scrollbars.

What is your experience with win 6.5 build 11?

Will you please give your experience with win 6.5 build 11.
My experience:
Positives: Very cool: More storage
Negatives: Frequent crashes especially upon installation of new programs. Like I installed new version of spb keyboard, it crashed altogether and I had to hard reset.
It is more slower than 6.1.

i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol

ryanstephney said:
i thought it was it was a kewl upgrade until i tried it .............
Its much slower than 6.1 not just a little but much slower, looks great but some of the options in the settings menu were missing that i was looking for but all in all i prefer the 6.1 over 6.5....which i loaded back a few mins ago(6.1)....cant wait for 7 next yr to see what tht has to offer but im assuming Viva's processor might its work cut out for it lolololol
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes I am also of the same opinion. How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.

well, for me, it works great, except it doesnt have windows live and onenote mobile, i had to download it (except onenote cos i dont need it) on my own... speed is okay, not as fast as wm6.1, startup is slow, the new lock screen, honeycomb and titanium is cool, but the panel for email and text is EXTREMLY BUGGY (they show a X sign and nothing else), album and touchflo 2d seems to respond faster, theres a few bugs but they dont really show up much, the new touch engine (or watever the thing is called for the touch scrolling) is great, but theres touchflo scrolling which makes it really annoying (btw, is there any way to remove the scrolling? i changed the registry but its still there)... but for me, its okay for everyday use...
P.S according to the ORIGINAL POST ON PDAVIET, its based on the iolite rom(i think) and i DONT recommend you guys to upgrade to v12 but wait for v13, so in the meantime, use the v11 rom...
mirchichamu said:
Thanks for your reply!
How can I go back to original ROM? Because we have changed the hard spl. I shall be thankful.
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i too am trying to find a way... too bad theres no solution yet to change to original spl...

guys, when you say go back to the original rom, do you mean the version with 6.1? all you have to do is flash your viva again but using the
HTC OPAL ROM 6.1 V05 - Build 21014.1.6.0 version you can find in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494083
That rom is from PhamQuang too

its quite good enough,.. but sending message always notify me delivery report, and get load.... , i cant unchecked the box..

I am switching back to 6.1

MOD! please move to Vogue Upgrading Forum!
I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?

Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...

kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D

just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry

yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...

kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)

I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.

I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.

joe11211 said:
I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...

i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?

I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.

kei78 said:
Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please

joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*

I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.

Sophos1 said:
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide

dkl73 said:
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug

joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug

[REQ] WM 6.5 today plugin for WM 6.1?

Is there some kinda plugin for the WM 6.1 to get the WM 6.5 today plugin/home screen? Perfect would be a cab which installs this as an object in the Today list!
Anyone knows where to find it - or make it?

Mmmm...
As far as I'm aware, Titanium (WM6.5 home screen) doesn't run on 6.1

Ummm...
Okay... Was kinda hoping some one would be able to "re-create" it as a today plugin for WM 6.1....! It is mostly grahics, so...

longice said:
Okay... Was kinda hoping some one would be able to "re-create" it as a today plugin for WM 6.1....! It is mostly grahics, so...
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Not the case. I'd imagine there are dependancies on 6.5 that aren't compatible with 6.1. Not to mention it's not just 'mostly graphics'. That'd be the easiest bit. There'd be a ****-load of code crammed in that. Look at all the different things it can do.
Why don't you just flash a 6.5 ROM? It's pretty much retail quality as it is now. M$ are claiming 6.5 is done and we have the latest builds. It simply makes no sense why you'd want to go backwards for just the UI?

Not really worth the effort of making it since you could just go install 6.5
Or just wait a bit longer if the latest version we have isn't exactky complete.

Hehe, well, I definitely see your point. But all the WM6.5 ROMs for Diamond that I found, didn't seem to be working 100 % (but more like 90 %...).
But if it's as ready as you claim, I guess I'll get my ass going and upgrade! I believe it's possible to get TF3D for 6.5 as well?

longice said:
Is there some kinda plugin for the WM 6.1 to get the WM 6.5 today plugin/home screen? Perfect would be a cab which installs this as an object in the Today list!
Anyone knows where to find it - or make it?
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I am using the Shaks 4.30 -WM6.1 with SPB mobile Shell 3.0 and this skin, superb addition also for WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492203
give it a try !

A2Z said:
I am using the Shaks 4.30 -WM6.1 with SPB mobile Shell 3.0 and this skin, superb addition also for WM6.1
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Ey, this looks great! Maybe I'll try it out...! Thanks, man!

Windows Mobile 6.1 on Tmobile HD2

Hey
I just wondered if this is possible?
Sory for my bad eng...
Windows Mobile 6.5 he is just ugly bastard... And that HTC Sense also...
Just clean WM 6.1?

There are very few versions of 6.1 available for the HD2...and most of them haven't been updated in ages. Just flash a custom ROM, then hit up settings to get the old Start menu back...hell, even the stock ROM has the option I think.

ashasaur said:
There are very few versions of 6.1 available for the HD2...and most of them haven't been updated in ages. Just flash a custom ROM, then hit up settings to get the old Start menu back...hell, even the stock ROM has the option I think.
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I can`t find anything that is build on WM6.1. Where You saw them?

WM 6.5.3 is much better than any previous versions thanks to the multitide of finger friendly tweaks made

devgron said:
I can`t find anything that is build on WM6.1. Where You saw them?
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he didn't see it, he's mistaking 6.5 titanium with 6.1

anhyeuemmaimai said:
WM 6.5.3 is much better than any previous versions thanks to the multitide of finger friendly tweaks made
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I don`t like such that sh**
Standard Windows Mobile 6.1 is awesome and sweeeeettttt.
Please help me and my Leo...

samsamuel said:
he didn't see it, he's mistaking 6.5 titanium with 6.1
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No bro, I know the difference between 6.1 and Titanium.....been doing this a long time. There are a handful of 6.1 builds for the Leo...somewhere buried within the ROM development section at the main Leo section.

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Just flash a custom ROM, then hit up settings to get the old Start menu back...hell, even the stock ROM has the option I think.
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ashasaur said:
No bro, I know the difference between 6.1 and Titanium.....been doing this a long time. There are a handful of 6.1 builds for the Leo...somewhere buried within the ROM development section at the main Leo section.
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gotcha, its the red bit that i read as you saying to just turn sense off. Oh teh joy of misinterpretation, , heh.

maybe i don't hang out here enough, but I still can't see what this trivial argument is about...
doesn't WM6.1 = turning off titanium and reinstalling your old today plugins? e.g. before running GPS or Android, I turn off sense and just re-enable BatteryStatus and TodayAgenda from my WM6 on the today screen, and the HD2 magically turns into my old wm5.
If the OP was referring to the other device-specific tweaks like the new notifications or volume controls, they can all be changed in the registry or with programs like SchapsAdvancedConfig3.3 etc. One can even bring back the old start menu with new programs like this recent front page post 3D WinStart. But then again, all these tweaks might be too much for a newbe to handle, so i guess, yer right, just flashing a retro rom might be simpler, as long as one can still find it?

atlaswing said:
maybe i don't hang out here enough, but I still can't see what this trivial argument is about...
doesn't WM6.1 = turning off titanium and reinstalling your old today plugins? e.g. before running GPS or Android, I turn off sense and just re-enable BatteryStatus and TodayAgenda from my WM6 on the today screen, and the HD2 magically turns into my old wm5.
If the OP was referring to the other device-specific tweaks like the new notifications or volume controls, they can all be changed in the registry or with programs like SchapsAdvancedConfig3.3 etc. One can even bring back the old start menu with new programs like this recent front page post 3D WinStart. But then again, all these tweaks might be too much for a newbe to handle, so i guess, yer right, just flashing a retro rom might be simpler, as long as one can still find it?
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Ouch, a low blow lol!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

atlaswing said:
maybe i don't hang out here enough, but I still can't see what this trivial argument is about...
doesn't WM6.1 = turning off titanium and reinstalling your old today plugins? e.g. before running GPS or Android, I turn off sense and just re-enable BatteryStatus and TodayAgenda from my WM6 on the today screen, and the HD2 magically turns into my old wm5.
If the OP was referring to the other device-specific tweaks like the new notifications or volume controls, they can all be changed in the registry or with programs like SchapsAdvancedConfig3.3 etc. One can even bring back the old start menu with new programs like this recent front page post 3D WinStart. But then again, all these tweaks might be too much for a newbe to handle, so i guess, yer right, just flashing a retro rom might be simpler, as long as one can still find it?
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Tell me what your post brings to this topic?
I do not want any tweaks or crap like that. I want just good old WM6.1.

atlaswing is mostly correct though...WM6.1 really is just 6.5-Titanium. You can just go into settings and enable the classic WinMo Today screen to achieve the same effect.