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I apologize if this issue has been addressed, I did some searching but didn't find an answer.
So call me crazy, but I like Titanium better than Sense. No, its not as flashy, but I do like the look (maybe because I'm so used to my ZuneHD) and its a lot more efficient at getting you data.
I know you can very easily switch between the two, but what is keeping me with Sense is the other HTC apps that come with it. I'm not entirely happy about losing the HTC contacts, calendar, twitter, that fun stuff.
So I guess my question is, is it doable to access those apps from Titanium? Are there any ROMs out there that configure this for me?
Thanks
DeekoVB5 said:
I apologize if this issue has been addressed, I did some searching but didn't find an answer.
So call me crazy, but I like Titanium better than Sense. No, its not as flashy, but I do like the look (maybe because I'm so used to my ZuneHD) and its a lot more efficient at getting you data.
I know you can very easily switch between the two, but what is keeping me with Sense is the other HTC apps that come with it. I'm not entirely happy about losing the HTC contacts, calendar, twitter, that fun stuff.
So I guess my question is, is it doable to access those apps from Titanium? Are there any ROMs out there that configure this for me?
Thanks
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There should be shortcuts in the Start menu for those apps, can these not be used in Titanium? (I've not used Titanium myself yet)
rp-x1 said:
There should be shortcuts in the Start menu for those apps, can these not be used in Titanium? (I've not used Titanium myself yet)
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Believe it or not, no....those items actually disappear from the start menu when you turn off Sense. The only one that remains is the messaging app.
At least I know I am not the only crazy one who prefers Titanium, but unfortunately you cannot access the calendar etc without having Sense turned on, they are all part of that app, the only exceptions are as you have found things like the Messaging app which is a standalone program and replacement for the windows mobile version.
D'oh, thanks HTC. 6.5.3 improves on the stock apps, right? Maybe once we get HardSPL for the US T-Mobile version, that will be sufficient...
I've had some problems getting HTC apps working in cm6 latest nightly.
I get my apks from DC froyo.
First I tried an easy install which failed.
Then I moved it to the system/app folder and chmod and chowned to make sure the permissions and owners were the same as stock.
Right now the HTC internet browser opens but force closes.
How can I get it working?
Aren't the HTC apps tied to the Sense framework? If so, I don't think it'll be possible to get them working on a non-sense ROM.
I could be completely wrong.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
jkinnison90 said:
Aren't the HTC apps tied to the Sense framework? If so, I don't think it'll be possible to get them working on a non-sense ROM.
I could be completely wrong.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
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No you are not completely wrong. You are completely correct. Sense is deeply integrated into Android. It's not like there are just some added libraries. The source code that compiles into the framework.jar and framework-res.apk, etc are directly modified by HTC. This means Sense is no mere skin. It is a complete integration into Android. Regardless, without this framework HTC apps will only run on Sense phones. Some can be ported over but it's a difficult process so most likely the apps you want will not be ported over. Out of curiosity though, which apps are you trying to use on CM6?
If you want Sense, go back to Sense.
topdnbass said:
How can I get it working?
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Use DC.
Can't use HTC apps without Sense. Please check the FAQ in the future.
if you provide the applications you're trying to run, perhaps alternatives can be suggested for you.
I personally like the HTC Tip Calulator widget....
and the HTC Notes....
But you can't use them on adw.
I don't want an app shortcut, I want a widget.
I prefer AOSP thankyou very much.
I just like the option of having some apps that I got used to.
HTC_ime for example. The keyboard.
Even though I use swype.
The camera app which pwns the stock.
Got flashlight and car panel working.
FM radio and weather would be nice too.
There were some nice Widgets but the only one I miss is the clock.
Any porting tips?
topdnbass said:
I prefer AOSP thankyou very much.
I just like the option of having some apps that I got used to.
HTC_ime for example. The keyboard.
Even though I use swype.
The camera app which pwns the stock.
Got flashlight and car panel working.
FM radio and weather would be nice too.
There were some nice Widgets but the only one I miss is the clock.
Any porting tips?
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i liked the HTC keyboard as well. I'm assuming that you did your due diligence and found this did not work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7429254#post7429254
4G and FM Radio is not working in CM6 yet.
this is listed in the CM6 OP.
i'm not sure what HTC browser your talking about. perhaps try installing Dolphin HD browser.
last nights CM6 build incorporated a new camera app and deathray (er...Flashlight app w/ widget). just get the nightly build and flash over what you have...i wipe 'cache' and 'dalvik cache' ...you loose no settings.
i use 'MyWeather' but then, i don't care for weather widgets. have you even looked on the android market for this? maybe try browsing from a computer on a site like www.appbrain.com
i use digital clock widget to provide my time date...many folks praise Beautiful Widgets.
here is a post that may be of use..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7312516#post7312516
tips...
- everyone once in a while...copy a nand backup onto your pc (ie: what if you SD card gets lost or borked?)
- read the entire forum for the ROM you're playing with
- use the search function liberally. (both on xda and google)
- read more
DraginMagik said:
i liked the HTC keyboard as well. I'm assuming that you did your due diligence and found this did not work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7429254#post7429254
4G and FM Radio is not working in CM6 yet.
this is listed in the CM6 OP.
i'm not sure what HTC browser your talking about. perhaps try installing Dolphin HD browser.
last nights CM6 build incorporated a new camera app and deathray (er...Flashlight app w/ widget). just get the nightly build and flash over what you have...i wipe 'cache' and 'dalvik cache' ...you loose no settings.
i use 'MyWeather' but then, i don't care for weather widgets. have you even looked on the android market for this? maybe try browsing from a computer on a site like www.appbrain.com
i use digital clock widget to provide my time date...many folks praise Beautiful Widgets.
here is a post that may be of use..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7312516#post7312516
tips...
- everyone once in a while...copy a nand backup onto your pc (ie: what if you SD card gets lost or borked?)
- read the entire forum for the ROM you're playing with
- use the search function liberally. (both on xda and google)
- read more
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Thanks for your post, but.
This isn't about anything specific, i simply want to know how to get apps ported, without the java source.
That said, I AM using dolphin, but I prefer the copy-paste that I can only find with HTC sense, I was hoping the browser on stock sense would help.
I've come across that thread, and use Swype without much issue, but having no trackball () makes me wish I had some arrow keys.. Not available in that thread.
Since my OP I have customized ADW and i'm quite pleased with it overall.
Now I just want to be able to use any app I wish. Regardless of alternatives!
Beautiful widgets is good, but has no analog clocks last I checked.
I do use it either way, but again, this isn't about anything specific.
I want to unlock apk's so they work anywhere. Any rom. Not just with HTC apps, but even the touchwiz apps!
Don't care about 4G, and i know that there are bugs being worked out with CM6 but i'm following it closely. On the 8/11 nightly build right now.
Finally, I read too much. I know a lot more than I put on..
Been "playing" with android roms since Dream (especially CM).
The problem which I have won't be solved by simply looking around for a version of the APK that works.
I want to know how they are being ported/unlocked .
If you can help, then thankyou very much!
Otherwise, I don't need your irrelevant tips. (No offense intended)
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I've come across that thread, and use Swype without much issue, but having no trackball () makes me wish I had some arrow keys.. Not available in that thread.
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Swype from the Swype key to the SYM key. Voila.
i ve seen alot of people mentioning that they dont want to have sense on their android( different tastes)
i personally like the looks of sense but it reminds me so much of the windows mobile nightmares that i avoid it.
even though its not same as using sense with winmo...
but for those of you that dont want to use sense,
download LAUNCHER PRO or any other launcher app that is available on the market. once installed the phone will ask you which one would you like to use by default, very simple.
i did that on mattc build and new froyostone build as well...
im posting this because not that many people are aware of this.
i discovered it by accident as well.
u still have sense items like dialer and other aspects of sense even if u download launcher
does launcher pro do landscape mode?
Nevermind... I should know to reasearch before asking by now.
the main reason i dont like sense is even after disabling , there iis still like 10 apps running in the background lol
if you use launcher pro (which I like becuase you can get more icons on the page) you dont have access to the sense widgets, and I cant find a clock I like as much as the standard sense/weather clock (ANYONE??).
i found myself setting up launcher pro to look like my winmo sense. But I still think winmo sense looks way better.
I would love to use sens rather than froyo att his point. but I got used to having my dpis at 180. And I still want my sense widgets and clock but then I wont be able to shrink the resolution much, or fit more icons.
thatruth132 said:
the main reason i dont like sense is even after disabling , there iis still like 10 apps running in the background lol
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I agree. HTC sense is BLOATWARE even if you just "disable" it.
Hi Guys is there a froyo rom with sense for the legend? really hating the software on my legend after the last update and my texts are all wrong Would love froyo with sense on my device.
Thanks
way too fat
No... Sense is too fat. Try the Azure build... you won't miss the HTC stuff
owenw said:
Sense is too fat.
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Agree But it seems like azure doesn't use jit, so it's performance is almost the same as stock htc rom with sense
False...
Firecold said:
But it seems like azure doesn't use jit, so it's performance is almost the same as stock htc rom with sense
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Who told you that?
JIT was disabled until v0.6. Ali Ba said it somewhere...
We're at v1.0.1, so JIT is there and working
TheGrammarFreak said:
JIT was disabled until v0.6. Ali Ba said it somewhere...
We're at v1.0.1, so JIT is there and working
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Exactly
Ok will try this with the notfancywidget widget don't like my homescreen without the sense clock lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Jammie_1989 said:
Ok will try this with the notfancywidget widget don't like my homescreen without the sense clock lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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try Beautiful widgets, the weather clock is very customizable. costs a couple of bucks, but totally worth it if you miss the clock.
i've tried the azure, but it's almost unusable without htc's stuff (no smart dialer, facebook and twitter integration with contacts)
in my opinion azure is the best.i am getting best performance than any other rom.
i don't miss htc sense ui........i am using better widgets and some twitter and Facebook widgets i manage to get my nostalgic feeling of htc sense..........so my opinion to go for azure rom...........
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makaze said:
no...facebook and twitter integration with contacts
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Froyo offers contact-linking out of the box which basically means any app can add information to your contacts. The official Twitter and Facebook apps synchronize contacts and with 2.2 you can select which ones to link (just like with Sense on 2.1 ROMs).
If you tell me you need Sense for this then I'm quite sure you didn't even try.
ali ba said:
Froyo offers contact-linking out of the box which basically means any app can add information to your contacts. The official Twitter and Facebook apps synchronize contacts and with 2.2 you can select which ones to link (just like with Sense on 2.1 ROMs).
If you tell me you need Sense for this then I'm quite sure you didn't even try.
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Thanks Ali ba for these explanations. I can understand makaze because I also tried a froyo rom, not azure, maybe a couple of months ago and I went back really fast to myprevious rom because I missed exactly these two things, facebook contact sync and smart dialing.
Like makaze , when I saw these problems, I thought it was because the sense absence, and I didnt search a lot for a way around, they just were 2 very important issues. But if you say facebook contacts syncsworks, I wil try azure tomorro!! by the way, does anyone know how to install a smar dialer like htc's? with that it would be just perfect
I like a clean rom, what I need I can install myself, when I buy a Computer, I also format it and reinstall it without the software of the pc maker.
Dialer one I use, is nearly the same as HTC and
http://www.appbrain.com/app/kz.mek.DialerOne
Sense Theme,
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.haxzamatic.adwsenses
Beautiful Widgets,
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.levelup.beautifulwidgets
Smooth Calendar,
http://www.appbrain.com/app/se.catharsis.android.calendar
the above theme wont work on azure 1.0 ... smooth calendar wont sync as no sync option with fb or twitt..manual :| ... and Beautiful widgets work .
dhanu007 said:
the above theme wont work on azure 1.0 ... smooth calendar wont sync as no sync option with fb or twitt..manual :| ... and Beautiful widgets work .
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I have same issue such as you , no life without sense !
try zeam launcher
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/zeam-launcher_guca.html
Syncing with facebook and twitter is working fine here, lets not give out false information to anyone reading this. Facebook integration is supported fine in Azure ROM (and others)!
I am going to give it a try... I guess that if we want to have the last version of android, now and in future releases, we are gonna have to get use to live without htc sense
i've installed both facebook and twitter but haven't really noticed much of an integration (eg. people photos not downloading, unable to browse their albums directly via phone like in htc's friendfeed, see status updates when opening contact...). but then again, the biggest drawback is that there is no smartdialer and i still can't understand why an smartphone operating system does not include this by default (we're not in 2001)
makaze said:
i've installed both facebook and twitter but haven't really noticed much of an integration (eg. people photos not downloading, unable to browse their albums directly via phone like in htc's friendfeed, see status updates when opening contact...). but then again, the biggest drawback is that there is no smartdialer and i still can't understand why an smartphone operating system does not include this by default (we're not in 2001)
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Why it so hard to read a few post above.
Dialer one I use, is nearly the same as HTC
http://www.appbrain.com/app/kz.mek.DialerOne
I'm running LauncherPro on my phone. Even though all launcher-related defaults are set for LauncherPro, the HTC Sense is still listed as a running process. I don't observe any problems with that, but nevertheless I'd like to know if there are any known issues with, say, freezing HTC Sense using Titanium Backup.
Actually, I just froze it and the phone seems to work fine (and, as one would expect, HTC Sense is no longer in the list of running processes). However, it will take time to test if everything really works. Maybe someone knows something already?
TheKorbenDallas said:
I'm running LauncherPro on my phone. Even though all launcher-related defaults are set for LauncherPro, the HTC Sense is still listed as a running process. I don't observe any problems with that, but nevertheless I'd like to know if there are any known issues with, say, freezing HTC Sense using Titanium Backup.
Actually, I just froze it and the phone seems to work fine (and, as one would expect, HTC Sense is no longer in the list of running processes). However, it will take time to test if everything really works. Maybe someone knows something already?
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If you don't want sense, why not just flash a non-sense ROM like CM? Save the hassle of masking it with a bandaid and fix the root issue.
Flash a ROM so u dont have WM
Er... I'm not talking about getting rid of the entire HTC Sense GUI platform. I just want to replace the launcher. "HTC Sense" also happens to be the name for the launcher application, which is probably why people confuse one with another. Again, I'm perfectly comfortable with HTC Sense GUI platform, I just want to replace HTC Sense application. Why would anyone want to reflash the entire ROM just to replace the launcher application is not exactly clear to me.
I've been running, Launcher Pro while having HTC Sence app frozen by TiBackup for a day now. No problems so far.