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Extract exchange support from HTC SENSE?

Hi,
Is there any possibility that you smart guys could extract only the exchange capabilities from HTC's SENSE?

edit sorry guys

1. Wrong section
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3. ... all I am going to say.
Thanks,

There you go. Give it a try.

More politely put no it is not possible but you can use senseui with the normal launcher and have your exchange support.
Or just use touchdown OR motogal and motocal

Widgets
My problem is that I LOVE the widgets. the Calender Widget to be specific. I wish the Android calender would merge Exchange and Google calender information and present it out on a unified calender like HTC does. And I used Modaco's kitchen to dump the Sense UI but that also leaves me without the calendar and mail widgets :-(

Not working
Talderon - I have searched but didn't get a satisfying answer.
InGeNeTiCs - Tried it (adb push), but I don't see any new app..
genibus - If I get you correct, you are saying that the only possible way is using HTC Desire's ROM?

richardrahl said:
My problem is that I LOVE the widgets. the Calender Widget to be specific. I wish the Android calender would merge Exchange and Google calender information and present it out on a unified calender like HTC does. And I used Modaco's kitchen to dump the Sense UI but that also leaves me without the calendar and mail widgets :-(
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calwidget merges google and motorola, works like a charm.

itaysk said:
Talderon - I have searched but didn't get a satisfying answer.
InGeNeTiCs - Tried it (adb push), but I don't see any new app..
genibus - If I get you correct, you are saying that the only possible way is using HTC Desire's ROM?
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What functionality do you not want to lose from Stock Android?

Paul22000 said:
What functionality do you not want to lose from Stock Android?
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I need to overlay google cal and exchange cal. I am using calwidget which is nice, but I need a full calendar app. (i.e - pick a specific date, and see whats happening in both calendars)
I need to accept calendar invitations from exchange (Push) - motocal can do it only if I happen to navigate to the date and see the event invitation there. there's no way to know you received an invitation, and there's no centralized place where I can see my invitations.
I need to be able to search GAL from the email application. I have motogal, but it's not what i'm looking for. let's say someone sent me an email, I want to forward it to someone in the company. I dont want to go to motogal, search, copy, paste... I want to have the search in the TO field of the wmail app.
I need to search email and calendar..
These are the main problems...
Thanks for the help

Why do people seem to believe that everything can be ported, or "extracted" from everything. Not everything (as sad as this may be to some) can be ported to every single 'thing'. People seem to constantly ask for things from HTC Sense here, but they do not seem to comprehend that HTC Sense requires a specific framework, without Rosie we cannot simply port every minor detail over to the standard Vanilla Android. (From MY understanding, I could be wrong, but this is what I was taught).
Get the Desire ROM, or a imitation, and stop requesting..
This was not directed to the thread creator specifically, though it was to people who are requesting widgets. I really wish people could become a little more educated.. unless me myself is wrong.

itaysk said:
I need to overlay google cal and exchange cal. I am using calwidget which is nice, but I need a full calendar app. (i.e - pick a specific date, and see whats happening in both calendars)
I need to accept calendar invitations from exchange (Push) - motocal can do it only if I happen to navigate to the date and see the event invitation there. there's no way to know you received an invitation, and there's no centralized place where I can see my invitations.
I need to be able to search GAL from the email application. I have motogal, but it's not what i'm looking for. let's say someone sent me an email, I want to forward it to someone in the company. I dont want to go to motogal, search, copy, paste... I want to have the search in the TO field of the wmail app.
I need to search email and calendar..
These are the main problems...
Thanks for the help
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You can do all this already, or this is what you want to do?
Let me rephrase my earlier question, I think you misunderstood: What can you currently do that you will LOSE by going to the Desire ROM?

Eclair~ said:
Why do people seem to believe that everything can be ported, or "extracted" from everything. Not everything (as sad as this may be to some) can be ported to every single 'thing'. People seem to constantly ask for things from HTC Sense here, but they do not seem to comprehend that HTC Sense requires a specific framework, without Rosie we cannot simply port every minor detail over to the standard Vanilla Android. (From MY understanding, I could be wrong, but this is what I was taught).
Get the Desire ROM, or a imitation, and stop requesting..
This was not directed to the thread creator specifically, though it was to people who are requesting widgets. I really wish people could become a little more educated.. unless me myself is wrong.
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Because that's the idea behind the android OS? That everything is modular. Except that in this case HTC sense is a module for home, and not individual modules.
To the OP: If you want corporate usage, I believe it was pulled from the droid rom successfully. I've seen a few posts allude to it around here somewhere.

muncheese said:
Because that's the idea behind the android OS? That everything is modular. Except that in this case HTC sense is a module for home, and not individual modules.
To the OP: If you want corporate usage, I believe it was pulled from the droid rom successfully. I've seen a few posts allude to it around here somewhere.
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Well yes, I know that's the idea behind the Android OS, but not everything can be backported, extracted or whatever as easily as people seem to wish or think..

Paul22000 said:
You can do all this already, or this is what you want to do?
Let me rephrase my earlier question, I think you misunderstood: What can you currently do that you will LOSE by going to the Desire ROM?
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OHHH sorry I thought you asked a different question.
Actually, I wouldn't mind having a complete sense experience - That would be even better.
But I'm a little afraid to flash the entire Desire ROM because it's still experimental.. isn't it?
I'm currently with Cyanogen so it's not the idea of flashing that bothers me, it's just that specific ROM.
Thanks for your reply.

itaysk said:
OHHH sorry I thought you asked a different question.
Actually, I wouldn't mind having a complete sense experience - That would be even better.
But I'm a little afraid to flash the entire Desire ROM because it's still experimental.. isn't it?
I'm currently with Cyanogen so it's not the idea of flashing that bothers me, it's just that specific ROM.
Thanks for your reply.
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I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Nand Backup/Restore feature then?

Paul22000 said:
I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Nand Backup/Restore feature then?
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OK.. Ill give it a shot..
I was just trying to find out if there's a possibility that I wouldn't have to go through this, because all I need is proper exchange support.
Thanks.

Curiosity.
Without a Rooted Incredible I assume I can't install the sensemail.apk on the incredible?
I tried and the app won't install although both are HTC Sense UI's?
Verizon seemed to have downgraded the HTC Mail to only one screen option. I wanted the screen widget that showed the messages in a list not by individual pages where you flip through them to read the headers(single page).
I also tried the extracted widget from the HTC Desire ROM and it didn't want to install. said it was an application error.
Any hints? or just wait for the root?

[Q] Apps I can remove if I never want to use sense UI again?

Hello all. I have searched and have found some info on this but not sure if I am missing anything so I wanted to ask. My scenario is basically this.
I have Myn's Warm RLS4 installed on my rooted Evo with Riptides clear froyo V9 theme flashed as well. I do not use sense as my interface at all, I use Launcher pro plus. The only thing I want to keep from sense is the dialer and the applications that allow my facebook pics and info to link to my sense contacts (Friendstream and/or Facebook for HTC sense I believe is responsible for this I believe)
Does anyone have experience in what apps I can remove safely and still keep the social integration provided Sense?
I want to freee up more space for memory and apps as well as not have things load from sense into the memory banks if I am not using them. I see a bunch of sense widgets installed that I will not use anymore so I assume I can remove those, but I am just afraid of losing the contact/social integration that sense provides.
If anyone has done this before and can offer some assistance or maybe a link that I have not found yet I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance for any responses!!

leenypost said:
Hello all. I have searched and have found some info on this but not sure if I am missing anything so I wanted to ask. My scenario is basically this.
I have Myn's Warm RLS4 installed on my rooted Evo with Riptides clear froyo V9 theme flashed as well. I do not use sense as my interface at all, I use Launcher pro plus. The only thing I want to keep from sense is the dialer and the applications that allow my facebook pics and info to link to my sense contacts (Friendstream and/or Facebook for HTC sense I believe is responsible for this I believe)
Does anyone have experience in what apps I can remove safely and still keep the social integration provided Sense?
I want to freee up more space for memory and apps as well as not have things load from sense into the memory banks if I am not using them. I see a bunch of sense widgets installed that I will not use anymore so I assume I can remove those, but I am just afraid of losing the contact/social integration that sense provides.
If anyone has done this before and can offer some assistance or maybe a link that I have not found yet I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance for any responses!!
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Just FYI, the official Facebook and Twitter apps offer contact integration/syncing. In AOSP it's the way native social integration works. It probably works best on a AOSP ROM and might not even work on a Sense ROM so YMMV.

Award Tour said:
Just FYI, the official Facebook and Twitter apps offer contact integration/syncing. In AOSP it's the way native social integration works. It probably works best on a AOSP ROM and might not even work on a Sense ROM so YMMV.
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Thanks for that info. I was not aware that I could achieve the same contact integration functionality with AOSP. I would love to use an AOSP ROM instead but none of them have functioning 4g and 4g in my area is wicked fast so I find it really hard to give up, LOL

Android Contacts

Hello Everyone,
Im using HTC Desire with AuraxTsense 8.1.1 and ive seen a few roms with the core android contacts app. I tried using mybackup pro to back this app up and install it but it says "application not installed". Do i need to download a .zip and use recovery to install this? where could i get those files from either an .apk or a .zip.
Thanks for any help guys.

i believe the contacts is two apks contacts and contactsprovider. And you cannot get them into a sense rom by merely installing it, theres some wierd issue with it if u try to replace the senseui's contacts with it...

I know what you mean with wanting this, but if you're willing, try a different rom to see what you like at the same time? Something AOSP built. If you search there are ways to adb push the stock contact app which is what you want, but that includes the dialer which you also need if you want the contacts.
If you're willing to experiment, try a different rom. I was on AuraxTSense 8.1.1 also, but the battery drain was totally annoying. So I went to Oxygen and I haven't looked back (and has the contact app which you want). Done 18 hours on my phone today with relatively standard usage and,went down to 32%, amazing tbh.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You can try to flash the "Android_Contacts.zip" file that is found on the mini-site I built for LeeDrOiD's ROMs. I have done so in the past (flashed through recovery) and both the HTC People AND stock Android Contacts seem to co-exist in perfect harmony It simply asks you which you'd like to launch when tapping the "Phone" button for example.
Of course it would be wise to perform a Nandroid backup first just for safety's sake!

Sense should allow all that harmonies in AOSP rom too. why dont they~~

Thanks for all the replys. im gona go try that website now!! ill post how i get on.

ok tried that but just got a load of force close messages before i could even start up the app. is there any .apk on the marketplace that would do this, or even a similar app. I know you can get it on sense cause i had it on one of the sense roms that i use. I just like AuraxTsense because of the power control in the notification area.

well actually i dont understand why do you want the android dialer? Sense dialer is what people want. Well at least i want it it, want it so much but sad it cant be used on AOSP roms.

Cause i love having to click a phone app and having my dialer/contacts/recent calls all in one app and just tabbed on the top. I dont care if its the android dialer but this is the best one ive seen laid out for what i want. Is it possible to get the samsung one or a similar app?

Ricochet I totally agree on that. The standard Android dialer app is way more functional and looks nicer too IMHO. Only thing missing is T9 search. I used Dialer One from the market when I wasnt rooted, however found it to be less snappy then a standard app.
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scar45 said:
You can try to flash the "Android_Contacts.zip" file that is found on the mini-site I built for LeeDrOiD's ROMs. I have done so in the past (flashed through recovery) and both the HTC People AND stock Android Contacts seem to co-exist in perfect harmony It simply asks you which you'd like to launch when tapping the "Phone" button for example.
Of course it would be wise to perform a Nandroid backup first just for safety's sake!
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I tried that and it somewhat worked. The dialer comes up but the contacts aren't there. The favorites and call logs are populated though. I'm using an HD rom though so I'm not sure it's the same (RCmixHD)

Tust found "TouchPal Smart Dialer" in the market. The main screen is a mix of HTC with Android Contacts tabs at the top. Gonna try this out to test functionality, but the layout is awesome!

Thanks man, that app is exactly what i wanted.

[Q] `com.android.htcprofile` and `recovery` in Titanium Backup

At the bottom of my Titanium Backup application list I see two entries: `com.android.htcprofile` and `recovery`. Both are crossed out, as if they stand for uninstalled applications. They are not backed up, so there's no reason for them to appear in the list. Refreshing the list does not make these entries to go away.
What are these entries? What is the importance of having them in the list? Why does Titanium Backup display these entries in the list, even though Titanium Backup itself seems to understand that they are "uninstalled" and not backed up?

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I was wondering the same thing, I don't see Recovery anywhere in my list but I do see com.android.htcprofile
I'm having problems with my widgets disappearing on the stock Rom. Only on the stock homescreen not ADW. Was thinking this could be the cause possibly?

Mrdaviso said:
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I was wondering the same thing, I don't see Recovery anywhere in my list but I do see com.android.htcprofile
I'm having problems with my widgets disappearing on the stock Rom. Only on the stock homescreen not ADW. Was thinking this could be the cause possibly?
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If it was i am thinking it is.
HTC profile is a stock application much like blackberry has different applications. Same basic idea. When you are are home, and you have the "home profile" active it will not pull your work emails. If you are at work it pulls everything but lowers the volume not to disturb people around you.
and i do not have "recovery" on mine so i do not know what it does.

google doesn't even know the answer to your question, therefore, it must not have an answer.

option94 said:
google doesn't even know the answer to your question, therefore, it must not have an answer.
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stumpped the google? the world must be ending shortly.

Lol that's why I posted and my profiles/modes work just fine.
option94 said:
google doesn't even know the answer to your question, therefore, it must not have an answer.
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Mrdaviso said:
Lol that's why I posted and my profiles/modes work just fine.
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Im just glad that you searched first. lol.

neidlinger said:
If it was i am thinking it is.
HTC profile is a stock application much like blackberry has different applications. Same basic idea. When you are are home, and you have the "home profile" active it will not pull your work emails. If you are at work it pulls everything but lowers the volume not to disturb people around you.
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Well, what I'd like to know is not what "HTC profile" does. The main question here is really about Titanium Backup: what exactly does that mean when Titanium Backup shows in its list an application that is crossed-out?
Normally, Titanium Backup shows a crossed-out application when you uninstall something. An uninstalled app is shown crossed-out until you refresh the list. After refresh it disappears. Sometimes, an uninstalled application might remain in the list if you previously backed it up. So, a persistent crossed-out entry normally means "it is uninstalled, but you still have a backup for it".
In my case I see `com.android.htcprofile` and `recovery` crossed-out in the list, but I have no backup for these applications. So, the question is why Titanium Backup keeps showing them in the list? What is Titanium Backup trying to tell me by keeping these crossed-out entries in its list?

Same here. DAMN, and I just did a system wipe, thinking I unistalled something by mistaki

I ended up at this thread when I Googled after encountering the same thing. I came across it because I was trying to free up some space. It is associated with a 4 MB+ text file which Titanium can't delete. I think the text file is the reason it's showing up.

Hello mate, 2 questions

1> what's difference between Android Development and Original Android?
2> I use Titanium Backup (pro version). Every time after I flashed a new ROM, I restore all sys + user app + data. But my widgets on the home screen still not restored. I can use the Apex to restore most of the shortcuts, but not widgets. Anyone know how I can restore the widgets?
Thanks

That is odd. Ti backup restores everything for me including widgets.. But i do not use but like 3.. Beautiful widgets Acallender and Well i think those are the only ones . Sometimes i will use a email widget and box. just only use those when im moving files around ...

erica_renee said:
That is odd. Ti backup restores everything for me including widgets.. But i do not use but like 3.. Beautiful widgets Acallender and Well i think those are the only ones . Sometimes i will use a email widget and box. just only use those when im moving files around ...
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You mean TB restores your widgets on your home screen??? It never does for me. I have a customized weather widget and a customized power control widgent. After I flashed a new rom and used TB to restore things, these two widgets were always missing....

wildcolor said:
You mean TB restores your widgets on your home screen??? It never does for me. I have a customized weather widget and a customized power control widgent. After I flashed a new rom and used TB to restore things, these two widgets were always missing....
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I'm pretty sure that titanium backup cannot restore active widgets. On any device.
As for android development vs original , i'm not sure

PJ_DnB said:
I'm pretty sure that titanium backup cannot restore active widgets. On any device.
As for android development vs original , i'm not sure
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thanks meter added.
Any idea of how to backup those widgets?

I want to know the answer to the first question too!

wildcolor said:
1> what's difference between Android Development and Original Android?
2> I use Titanium Backup (pro version). Every time after I flashed a new ROM, I restore all sys + user app + data. But my widgets on the home screen still not restored. I can use the Apex to restore most of the shortcuts, but not widgets. Anyone know how I can restore the widgets?
Thanks
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The people who have threads in the Original Android area are the creators of said ROMS and Kernels. Posts made in the Android Development area can be variants of those posted in the Original area.

Original development is the 'innovative' ROMs and kernels, the adroid development is for ROMs based on other ROMs (usually) or just a few many pulls with AOSP source
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Thanks for describing the difference between the two development sections - been wondering that myself! Couldn't find a post describing the difference anywhere (may have missed it though) - I would have thought that there would have been a sticky about that in each of the development sections...
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Thanks for the explanation. I had the same understanding in the beginning. But, then I was confused by the the word "innovative". I thought only Google can make such changes, ie, an innovative Android means its version goes from 4.1 to 4.2?

wildcolor said:
Thanks for the explanation. I had the same understanding in the beginning. But, then I was confused by the the word "innovative". I thought only Google can make such changes, ie, an innovative Android means its version goes from 4.1 to 4.2?
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I'm pretty sure innovative is being used subjectively and just means ROMS that are substantially different from those around it. A good example is Paranoid Android which uses a phone / tablet hybrid layout that is pretty 'innovative' comparatively.

wildcolor said:
Thanks for the explanation. I had the same understanding in the beginning. But, then I was confused by the the word "innovative". I thought only Google can make such changes, ie, an innovative Android means its version goes from 4.1 to 4.2?
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Innovative is just new ideas like Paranoid Androids DPI Per app stuff, or ROMS that have features no other ROMS dont