Hi, I just wondered if all the people who use the software made by complete strangers to root there phones are concerned about the safety of the programs they use.
As most phones being rooted are Android, which I think is based on linux, can it not also install some kind of unwanted code to infect you phones software. I read somewhere that some custom roms contained viruses etc.
I would like to know what you think and learn more about how the software works and if this is actually true, thanks.
Ive flashed every rom here in the last few weeks
Still have my google account and My phone
Also nothing important on my phone - if you run a multinational company? maybe think twice
If someone has hacked me ,i make sure they have hacked the most boring person on the planet.
So i feel completely safe flashing
I cant control or guess at your level of paranoia though - so you will or you wont flash random roms to your phone
Not my paranioa, just read some things about phones that run android and that some custom roms can contain viruses, it was more like they were blaming these roms for all the viruses that infect android phones.
Thanks for your reply.
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Hi, I just wondered if all the people who use the software made by complete strangers to root there phones are concerned about the safety of the programs they use.
As most phones being rooted are Android, which I think is based on linux, can it not also install some kind of unwanted code to infect you phones software. I read somewhere that some custom roms contained viruses etc.
I would like to know what you think and learn more about how the software works and if this is actually true, thanks.
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What do u mean by that. This kind of thread is already created. This is not a debatable thing.
There are great developers here who sacrifice their free time and work to bring awesome things to us. And it is up to u whether to trust them or not. I completely trust them. The ones u adressed complete strangers are really great great people here.
And i believe xda and market are completely genuine things. I never worry about that. Even if some non-functional thing is introduced here, it will be removed immediately ASAP. And lastly, it is up to u.
[IMO, android phone without xda and market = nothing]
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If someone has hacked me ,i make sure they have hacked the most boring person on the planet.
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LOL....
Answering to the OP: you should be much more worried about what manufacturer did to your phone and its software. Manufacturer knows both of these very well and would probably plant something hard to detect, if it were to happen. Of course, the software would have much more power over the device than any virus produced by third party, like being able to brick the device.
As for your concern of lack of trustworthiness - these people are doing the hacks for long time. They are hackers, not crackers. Hackers create and mod, crackers destroy and vandalize. Do not confuse the terms, they mean opposite things. Hackers are the people who power this forum, crackers would get kicked out as soon as detected. No reason for concern. Just stick to open source ROMs and you will be safe.
One more thing if u cant believe developers then i think u must not use any cellphones as blaming developers or hackers here is equal to blaming a manufacturer who have complete control over their device. They can steal your information without informing you and send it to server of their own.
I too 100% trust developers here. It depends on u to trust or not. Android is an open source software or OS. So, u can too build your own ROM and try it. Make sure u've knowledge on this else u'll surely brick ur phone forever. So, the last option is to trust developers here!
I am not referring to any developers on this site and apologize for any offence caused, I am new to this and have just bought my first smart phone. I read an article about viruses being spread on the android market and it continued to explain how this happens but also mentioned that people using custom roms were also at risk.
I feel you've answered my question from your replies, I was always going to try custom roms but HTC's update installed a new locked boot loader. I was just curious what people thought about the methods used to gain root control, I was just trying to learn more about the whole issue. I think the people who do this sort of thing are very clever and intelligent people and admire there dedication and hard work.
Obviously you very passionate about this kind of thing and I agree entirely that manufacturers and carriers can put far worse things on my phone, thanks for your replies.
No one can say what happens when u download something from unknown xyzxyzxyzxyz.com
Only thing I can say is go with the trusted sites, where even if the so called viruses are introduced, they will be removed ASAP. That's all from my side.
Custom ROM viruses are only potentially possible and as far as I know, Cyanogenmod already fixed this. It had something to do with the encryption keys used incorrectly if I remember right.
Firstly, this disclaimer is for the unintelligent
I DO NOT KNOW HOW LEGITIMATE THIS WEBSITE IS, DO NOT THINK I AM PROMOTING IT
Anyways, how are phones like these, does anyone know better sites?
http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/sea...tory=&searchkey=android+phone&catalog=#search
I assume these are just chinese knockoff phones. Most seem to model off the s3 but....how are the phones? If there specs don't lie, they seem like very nice pieces of tech for the price! I have my anciet evo 4g because I misplaced my s2 and don't want to pay $600 for a new phone.
If these phones are indeed half way decent, what do I need to look for to obtain a phone compatible with sprint? From what I see nothing advertises wimax, which, I would be slightly sad to lose, but if everything else works on these things just find, I won't mind losing the wimax.
If this topic has been covered, or you have a simple link to address, please just post the link and don't tell me to look harder. I have looked and nothing seemed to fit for a good answer.
Thank you for the help!
Well, I have found this phone so far
http://android-sale.com/star-lt29i-4-5-inch-qhd-1ghz-dual-core-mt6577-5mp-camera-android-phone.html
and it looks like it's the best from what I've poked around....Would this work with Sprint? I will go in there soon and ask their policy on these kinds of phones. It says it supports WCDMA, and I think sprint uses CDMA, and I have no idea how the two related and the internet doesn't seem to help on informing me if sprint could use the device.
Lastly, where would I go for help/tools to root and ROM the device?I assume something like superone click may work, but if I do end up getting one of these phones, I'll ask more about rooting and whatnot in the android section.
Personally, I think they're poor value even if you but one from a maker who isn't lying about the hardware specs.
You're almost certainly not going to be getting any kind of custom development - the sources are most likely not even there to work from and the devices aren't popular enough for it to happen.
You can get something similar when buying a legitimate phone that's popular overseas - development is possible there, but you'd have to look into it.
The lack of support and potential to get something other than puts me off buying such a device - you know how you can buy an SD card that says "32Gb" on it and it's only like 5Mb or whatever ? Think about that - your phone might say it has 32Gb internal memory but you might really have 2Gb or less and you might get 254 or 512 RAM. You might be able to root, might not.
As for network compatibility, just look up what bands Sprint uses, compare, and hope the information is correct.
You might find a "good" clone with good reviews, but you lose the "value" that is development and support. What is that worth in dollars ?
Personally, I'd rather just get a used S2 or something. You can get a used S3 for $400-ish if you're lucky, S2 is $200-ish, I think. I'd go for something like that - something that was popular and had good development and support in its day and likely continues to have some even now. I can't put a cash value on that.
Pennycake said:
Personally, I think they're poor value even if you but one from a maker who isn't lying about the hardware specs.
You're almost certainly not going to be getting any kind of custom development - the sources are most likely not even there to work from and the devices aren't popular enough for it to happen.
You can get something similar when buying a legitimate phone that's popular overseas - development is possible there, but you'd have to look into it.
The lack of support and potential to get something other than puts me off buying such a device - you know how you can buy an SD card that says "32Gb" on it and it's only like 5Mb or whatever ? Think about that - your phone might say it has 32Gb internal memory but you might really have 2Gb or less and you might get 254 or 512 RAM. You might be able to root, might not.
As for network compatibility, just look up what bands Sprint uses, compare, and hope the information is correct.
You might find a "good" clone with good reviews, but you lose the "value" that is development and support. What is that worth in dollars ?
Personally, I'd rather just get a used S2 or something. You can get a used S3 for $400-ish if you're lucky, S2 is $200-ish, I think. I'd go for something like that - something that was popular and had good development and support in its day and likely continues to have some even now. I can't put a cash value on that.
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Do you have any suggestions on a good place to get a used s2? Actually, i may get my old s2 back soon.... Which would be lovely and solve my issues. I am curious though. Maybe later this year I will check some of the knockoff phones, just to test them and review them. I see your point, and it was my concern as well. I've always disliked phone companies and their support, and I assumed I could easily get some working rom and root, but tinkering with experimental builds for daily use is enough risk for me already. Adding a phone with a possibility to fail on me at any moment, probably isn't a good idea. These devices have too little real info sadly
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The thing is, even if Samsung isn't giving updates, they've still released enough of their source for people to work with to develop custom ROMs. The companies that sell the clone phones and such don't do this, so making a custom ROM isn't possible. Developers tend to like to either work on projects for their own devices, or ones that will get a large audience for their work, so even if there was material to work from, these wouldn't be very attractive targets for development. Most US phone customers still get their phones from their service providers, for better or worse.
Anyway - eBay, Craigslist, or one of hose sites for specifically selling mobile devices. I think you said you're with Sprint? You have to make sure the ESN is good in that case, is the biggest concern. I've never had to do this since I'm with T-Mobile (uses SIM cards, not ESN), but I'm sure there's advice out there on how to avoid being scammed.
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so, does this mean the end of rooting every device except a Nexus?
wase4711 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/?nocache=1
so, does this mean the end of rooting every device except a Nexus?
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As long as t-mobile doesn't lock the phones bootloaders it shouldn't be a problem, however needing a custom kernel to have root will cause huge delays in obtaining root with new updates.
and if they dont release source, or, they do and its encrypted or secure is a new way, that custom kernel may never be able to be compiled
I knew this was coming with Android L; this just confirms it to me..
If you want to upgrade to "L", you will have to be ok with staying stock for a long time I believe..
Hope I get proved wrong..
If thats the case I wont root to lollipop
Since this is N4 and T-mobile forum, the reason why I need to root is because I want to get rid of Amazon app, T-mobile account app and the file explorer which doesnt not have FTP. And also rid Sammy Video Player which cant play my 1080p movies! I also cant write to my SD card. I am not trying to do illegal things. I dont want crabs that I dont need! Can they understand?
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Since this is N4 and T-mobile forum, the reason why I need to root is because I want to get rid of Amazon app, T-mobile account app and the file explorer which doesnt not have FTP. And also rid Sammy Video Player which cant play my 1080p movies! I also cant write to my SD card. I am not trying to do illegal things. I dont want crabs that I dont need! Can they understand?
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They should of added the t-mobile bloatware and the other bloatware to the galaxy app essentials section if we wanted to download the bloatware apps or not. They removed some bloatware and added it into there, why not all of them? That would of been way better.
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unfortunately, the marketing/engineering team that puts these phone "packages" together, probably doesn't care what "we" want in a software package. Their only interest is making maximum profits on every phone they sell, so they get royalties based on how many phones come pre-loaded with all of this crapware, so us trying to root/circumvent/taking all this junk off our phones, just phisses them off to no end..
The public is screaming for security in every aspect of our lives, especially after all these "attacks" on major retailers/banks recently, so they will "Sell" this new, total encryption as a "benefit" to the public. I believe Andoid L automatically encrypts everything on your phone, so I will be surprised if you will be able to upgrade to it at all if your phone is rooted..
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I am not trying to do illegal things. I dont want crabs that I dont need!
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New xda motto...Couldn't agree more
If this is true, I will just by an apple device and put on my sheep outfit every 12 months.
The thinking heads at Google are making billions annually, is it really necessary to squeeze out the diehard enthusiasts for a few extra millions. :smh:
Sometimes capitalism sucks.
I dont want crabs that I dont need! Can they understand?
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Nobody wants crabs, Chong, lol! Seriously though, I can't have an Android without root! I can do without customs ROMs, but do without root...no!
Root is like part of my device and life is the Main reason I don't owned a IPhone.
I like being able to customize every aspect of device.
HtcOnekid said:
Root is like part of my device and life is the Main reason I don't owned a IPhone.
I like being able to customize every aspect of device.
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Amen, brother. So many of the apps I use require root privileges.
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If this is true, I will just by an apple device and put on my sheep outfit every 12 months.
The thinking heads at Google are making billions annually, is it really necessary to squeeze out the diehard enthusiasts for a few extra millions. :smh:
Sometimes capitalism sucks.
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DUDE! LOL! You are missing the point. With governments being increasingly more interested in user data, Google is trying to protect our data more than ever before. These changes are coming about for security reasons. The whole phone will be encrypted by default now. This will make a major difference in the overall security of the device. Google isn't trying to hurt the enthusiasts, they are trying to protect people who want privacy and don't have the skill to ward off massive superpowers that want it.
good point; unfortunately, "freedom of choice" usually comes at a price...
In this case, it will probably mean that the only custom roms /mods moving forward might only be for android 4.4 and earlier..
Google is leveling the playing field. All those who used Android for the customizations will realize all operating systems are the same [locked down] and venture off to see what else is out there. It's a brilliant move on Google's part. They were making too much money and was starting to have issues with storing it all. Now they'll let the other guys have those problems.
But it comes down to this... Either you want root or you want your privacy protected from The Man. We live in a word where diversity means less freedom.
I really don't think lollipop root will be a problem on this phone. Once the source is dropped for a single samsung build, which I'm pretty sure is required by the GPL, the kernel devs should be able to take it from there as long as there aren't very drastic changes in stock kernel functionality.
For instance the note 3 custom kernels pretty much took on a life of their own and you could flash them over different rom builds.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that a new kernel won't necessarily be needed for each Samsung build. At least that's the way it's been in the past.
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I really don't think lollipop root will be a problem on this phone. Once the source is dropped for a single samsung build, which I'm pretty sure is required by the GPL, the kernel devs should be able to take it from there as long as there aren't very drastic changes in stock kernel functionality.
For instance the note 3 custom kernels pretty much took on a life of their own and you could flash them over different rom builds.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that a new kernel won't necessarily be needed for each Samsung build. At least that's the way it's been in the past.
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If Chainfire is unsure about the process, maybe it's not as easy as you think it will be.
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If Chainfire is unsure about the process, maybe it's not as easy as you think it will be.
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Chainfire will figure a way.
NOTE 4
Hi, all!
I bought the Blade X Max from Cricket, as it's got 32GB internal storage, a bigger screen, and seems a very hip machine.
Since Cricket seems to have instructed the various vendors, LG, Alcatel, and now ZTE to not only just make it difficult to root, but near-impossible, at least for someone without extensive knowledge as an Android dev, it's an annoyance...
There are legit, non-bootleg apps for which I spent good money (Titanium, Apps2SD Pro, FlashFire and others), which require root... Unlocking codes tend to be expensive, and the sites that offer them seem more spam-generators than anything else, and the Dr.Fone Root tool doesn't seem to even know the device exists, and, it's as yet not on their supported list, that I can see.
The device was released a month ago, so I'm not expecting immediate miracles, but wondering if anyone else owns the device, and if anyone with the dev chops would be interested in exploring the possibility.
Thanks for reading, and have a great day!
I own the ZTE Blade X Max as well, I havent tried root or anything else yet, I was a little surprised though when searching through XDA and this thread was all I found in relation to the ZTE Blade X Max.
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I own the ZTE Blade X Max as well, I havent tried root or anything else yet, I was a little surprised though when searching through XDA and this thread was all I found in relation to the ZTE Blade X Max.
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Well, since the device has only been around a few months, it's understandable that not a lot of the devs have access to one, but, yeah... All over the web, it's referred to as a carrier-branded phone, and people seem to not want to fiddle with it...
I don't need a custom ROM, but there are legit apps that I bought from the Play Store, and they require root...
I blame Cricket for being paranoid that someone would dare to customize her/his phone and tweak it... Times past, Cricket made it difficult to root a phone, but the LG G-Stylo was pretty much unrootable... I have a few paperweights of that model in my storage... The Idol 3 was able to be rooted, the 6055U Idol 4, not so much... and now this one... It seems that Cricket is trying to have the various manufacturers leave some things out of their flavors of Android, so that even someone who reasonably is willing to take the risk is sh!t out of luck... <sigh>
Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
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Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
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Indeed...
Next time around, going to buy a pre-unlocked device (hell, even our local Walmart Super-aircraft hangar sells 'em), and just have the device ported over... if the vendor (Cricket, Metro, whomever) won't do it, they don't need my business... I'm a write-off from years back with Verizon, and, although my credit rating is much better these days, I worked for a Sprint call-center, and they sucketh verily and forsooth, and I don't know much about AT&T proper, or many other vendors...
But there are some vendors that are generally pretty hip, if a bit expensive, and I'm looking into seeing if, even if this is a vendor-branded device, there's a way, or just a straight-up trade for a device I can work with... Cricket's Android Nougat flavor is buggy as hell, and this is just kinda silly.
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What the hell...
"Oh, Brave new world that hath such people in it.."
Wow are you serious? No root method? I'm going to have to sell this phone? WTF I just liked it.
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Wow are you serious? No root method? I'm going to have to sell this phone? WTF I just liked it.
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Well, apparently the bootloader's crippled, as Cricket seems to have insisted things be removed from ZTE's source code...
But, I'm wondering (though I might just be talking out my butt), if the code module could be extracted from ZMax Pro, as that's apparently its non-Cricket branded twin...
My coding chops are limited to old XBASE and a bit of Delphi/FPC, so I'm not the guy to do it, but am I in the ballpark with my idea?
Never really messed with the bootloader. I've always been developing from code tho. Haven't tinkled too much in about a year but need a laptop power cord before I can try anything. Bootloader isn't always a root blocker. It's more of a custom rom blocker if memory hasn't been affected by times changing
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Never really messed with the bootloader. I've always been developing from code tho. Haven't tinkled too much in about a year but need a laptop power cord before I can try anything. Bootloader isn't always a root blocker. It's more of a custom rom blocker if memory hasn't been affected by times changing
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Well, again, my chops are decades old, and tend to involve xBASE and Delphi coding, and I know very little about C/C++ and Java, and plead ignorance of what Cricket has insisted on having crippled in the source, and I lean on the expertise of devs here and elsewhere for that reason...
Just that it's one helluva device, or would be if it could be at least rooted.... I just don't know how... :laugh:
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Well, again, my chops are decades old, and tend to involve xBASE and Delphi coding, and I know very little about C/C++ and Java, and plead ignorance of what Cricket has insisted on having crippled in the source, and I lean on the expertise of devs here and elsewhere for that reason...
Just that it's one helluva device, or would be if it could be at least rooted.... I just don't know how... [emoji23]
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Facts!
That's what the kids say today, lol. It's a beauty. Had to get mine swapped out for another due to the fingerprint reader and camera being intermittent between reboots. Not much I can say wrong about this device. Waiting on the key to the mailbox for my laptop charger still. Can't promise anything yet but I'm hopeful that our resources will get us started, even if it's just a long list of what doesn't work. Lmfao
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Is there anything we can do to this phone? Any thing
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Yes I have z982 and would like a forums section
Bootloader and recovery
zMILWAUKEE said:
Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
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First off they can't remove the bootloader as android WON'T boot without it, and recovery is needed for factory resets. Cricket has never been helpful about supporting their phones, but of you do a search you can find out how to get into the recovery. (And it's the ZTE Blade ZMax, not X Max, X Max is just crickets version of the Blade ZMax)
To get into recovery you can go to this link for instructions
http://www.hardreset.info/devices/zte/zte-blade-x-max-z983/recovery-mode/
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First off they can't remove the bootloader as android WON'T boot without it, and recovery is needed for factory resets. Cricket has never been helpful about supporting their phones, but of you do a search you can find out how to get into the recovery. (And it's the ZTE Blade ZMax, not X Max, X Max is just crickets version of the Blade ZMax)
To get into recovery you can go to this link for instructions
http://www.hardreset.info/devices/zte/zte-blade-x-max-z983/recovery-mode/
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Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much, at least not the ones we need to use, such as the menu option for "unlock" which doesn't without other input...
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Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much, at least not the ones we need to use, such as the menu option for "unlock" which doesn't without other input...
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... and just to say that I know that "unlock" and "root" are two different things... was just an example.
pauljulian said:
Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much without other input...
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I'm not sure how you would root that particular phone, but I'm sure there is a way, or will be once the phone is out there longer, being without root access is a pain in the a**
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I'm not sure how you would root that particular phone, but I'm sure there is a way, or will be once the phone is out there longer, being without root access is a pain in the a**
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When I originally started the thread, yep... I know the thing's not been out long... like since May (and I know crap all about the "Z" model used by other vendors... Obviously there's a drastic difference in the firmware, though...)...
Given time, I'm certain someone will work it out... There's a gentleman on another thread that seems to be working on it, and I'm going under the thing of "no news is good news" :laugh:
I've no doubt there's a way... I did a short stint at a call-center for Sprint, and there are always ways... It's a matter of having the right set of input codes, to get to the means to do the real deal...
I really dig the phone, although Cricket's flavor of Nougat isn't the most stable in the world... but, with the legal and legit apps I bought and continue to support, that's less of an issue.
It's frustrating when a company knows what a pain in the ass it is without allowing the user to administer it as really needs be... and they still refuse to permit it... I get that turning it into a paperweight can get tedious, but, given the means to get it back to factory standard in a reasonably simple way without sending it in, or buying another is just what I would see as normal... It's my own fault if I haven't backed up my data, but, if I somehow hose the firmware, just give me a means to get back to the start... It worked with their edition of the the Alcatel Idol 3... the Idol 4 (6055U)... I just gave the hell up.
pauljulian said:
When I originally started the thread, yep... I know the thing's not been out long... like since May (and I know crap all about the "Z" model used by other vendors... Obviously there's a drastic difference in the firmware, though...)...
Given time, I'm certain someone will work it out... There's a gentleman on another thread that seems to be working on it, and I'm going under the thing of "no news is good news" :laugh:
I've no doubt there's a way... I did a short stint at a call-center for Sprint, and there are always ways... It's a matter of having the right set of input codes, to get to the means to do the real deal...
I really dig the phone, although Cricket's flavor of Nougat isn't the most stable in the world... but, with the legal and legit apps I bought and continue to support, that's less of an issue.
It's frustrating when a company knows what a pain in the ass it is without allowing the user to administer it as really needs be... and they still refuse to permit it... I get that turning it into a paperweight can get tedious, but, given the means to get it back to factory standard in a reasonably simple way without sending it in, or buying another is just what I would see as normal... It's my own fault if I haven't backed up my data, but, if I somehow hose the firmware, just give me a means to get back to the start... It worked with their edition of the the Alcatel Idol 3... the Idol 4 (6055U)... I just gave the hell up.
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I don't mean to freak out anyone that "Holy Cr*p! Someone's doing something"
.... But I'm just wondering if anyone's doing something.... ?
It's not going to happen my best advice to you is get another phone. I have the z982 the z981,982,983 all of them are unrootable ZTE had a bad hack a few years back that almost shut them down root was giving full access to those phones through apps. I hate this phone and can't wait to get a new one. Never again will I buy ZTE
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It's not going to happen my best advice to you is get another phone. I have the z982 the z981,982,983 all of them are unrootable ZTE had a bad hack a few years back that almost shut them down root was giving full access to those phones through apps. I hate this phone and can't wait to get a new one. Never again will I buy ZTE
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Well, for damned sure I'm sick of Cricket's control freak practice...
But it seems there are too many vendors that undercut legitimate developers whose products require root access...
I don't really need a custom ROM, but I bought Apps2SD Pro, Titanium and some others because I found them to be well-written, well-designed, and they did what I needed them for... But, since I can't root this otherwise pretty cool device, I've basically wasted my $$... I'll get another device at some time, preferably from a vendor that is less paranoid about users actually using their devices to their potential, but for right now?
This is one of the most stupid situations I've found myself... A device that is capable of being a laptop replacement, but the vendor only insists on our using them as they dictate...
So, is disgust an applicable word?
... mind you, not at those among us who were suckered into buying a hip but crippled device.
(although I've the idea that those who actually work for Cricket but are sworn to secrecy by potential lawsuits and loss of employment actually have an idea as to whatever *# commands actually go deep enough to do what's needed)
But I have no issues with those such as I that found a really hip little machine, yet have found ourselves locked away from its potential...
My issues are with the control-freak assholes that set the policies for the companies we pay entirely too much to remain in necessary communication.